/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.12548536]

I dont get why a bunch of people are always complaining about capitalism literally what is wrong with it? it is literally the best thing we have.are /leftypol/ and commies just too lazy to put any work in and take responsibility?

[Anonymous No.12548555]

>>12548536
They think the workers can 'own the means of production' in some real way. tbqh if I thought that made any sense I would be on their side, it would be more fair really.

[Anonymous No.12548558]

>>12548536
Because it is a tool of Jewish bankers to destroy the Aryan race.

[Anonymous No.12548569]

>>12548536
>working
Good!
>buying
BAD.

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !mxvabIoSIE No.12548596]

Are you asking for a book to explain why people want freedom from slavery?

No? Not willing to read anything to answer your question?

Oh, you don't read?

http://metanoia-films.org/

[Anonymous No.12548610]

>>12548596
>freedom is having 70% of your income taken by force
Butterfly posters will be the first to hang when the state is abolished

[Anonymous No.12548611]

Jews are behind all the evils of Capitalism

[Anonymous No.12548615]

>>12548596
Fuck off Butterfag

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !mxvabIoSIE No.12548619]

>>12548610
Reread it. I certainly do not want 70% of workers labor going to some lazy entitled shit

[Anonymous No.12548623]

>>12548536
dude, weed, dude, free stuff. dude, fascism lol

[Anonymous No.12548629]

>>12548619
>>12548596
kys

[Anonymous No.12548631]

>>12548619
>lazy entitled shit

Aka Jews

[Anonymous No.12548637]

>>12548536
Because it's not perfect. It encourages people to cheat and exploit other people to use the system.

Advertising is the worst of it imo. If we had less advertising I think a lot of the problems would go away. There's no way talentless thots should be getting paid to post pictures online, and be better off for it than most hard average workers who followed the system.

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !mxvabIoSIE No.12548643]

>>12548631
AKA the owner class, Jew or not.

[Anonymous No.12548646]

>>12548536
MODS

[Anonymous No.12548648]

>>12548536
>destroying the planet
>makes greedy rich people even wealthier
>doesn't give a shit about culture or the sciences
Yeah I mean what's wrong with it

[Anonymous No.12548649]

>>12548536
only national socialism works.

[Anonymous No.12548651]

>>12548643
That is 90% Jews. The others work for (((them)))

[Anonymous No.12548652]

>>12548637
>There's no way talentless thots should be getting paid to post pictures online, and be better off for it than most hard average workers who followed the system.

yup, play by the rules, get fucked, whore yourself out to the most base appetites, laugh all the way to the bank. capitalism is just a mouth with infrastructure

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !mxvabIoSIE No.12548658]

>>12548637
>It encourages people to cheat and exploit other people to use the system.
This isn't even a flaw in the system. It's literally how it works

[Anonymous No.12548661]

Intellectuals are arrogant and idealistic, fuck commies

[Anonymous No.12548660]

>>12548648
>destroying the planet
it doesn't.
>greed is something only other people feel. I NEED all my things!
>doesn't give a shit about culture or the sciences
We're talking about capitalism not liberalism.

[Anonymous No.12548666]

With Jews, you lose

[Anonymous No.12548667]

>>12548660
Liberalism literally always has some sort of relationship with capitalism you gargantuan fucking retard

[Anonymous No.12548672]

>>12548661
they're always the first ones to be purged whenever a communist revolution happens, so it's not like they'll get away with it.

[Anonymous No.12548675]

>>12548661
>smart people bad

[Anonymous No.12548677]

Jews are societal cancer

[Anonymous No.12548689]

Fascism as understood by /litpol/ is just hipster communism isn't it.
>all the normalfags hate rich people so I will only hate the jew ones, I-I don't hate capitalism I hate liberalism!!

[Anonymous No.12548690]

>>12548667
Well yeah the democratic party is the corporate owned party.

[Anonymous No.12548694]

>>12548689
any country that enforces laws is by definition fascist, which is why fascist countries are so successful.

[Anonymous No.12548699]

>>12548660
>>destroying the planet
>it doesn't.
retard

[Anonymous No.12548704]

>>12548690
Both parties are factually capitalists and liberals in some shape of form. But I don't really give a shit about your American politics.
Capitalists doesn't give two flying fucks about anything except making dough which leads me to believe that they will replace the planet, culture, the arts and the sciences the moment when it benefits their greedy asses. I fucking hate communists and capitalists and there is no way out of this hell.

[Anonymous No.12548705]

>>12548675
No, but fuck academics and intellectuals that are so kind they'd control my life for me. Again, fuck commies

[Anonymous No.12548710]

>>12548705
As opposed to piggies controlling your life right now... right

[Anonymous No.12548714]

>>12548699
Just the sort of intellectual response i have come to expect from /lit.

>>12548704
There's a third option, which is why you've been taught from birth that it's absolute evil. You won't consider ideas you are told are evil.

[Anonymous No.12548724]

>>12548714
>There's a third option
No there isn't you fucking fascist piece of shit. You had your shot and you're the reason capitalists and communists ever had control over anything. If anything, the third option is even worse. I hate fascists even more now that I think about it, your delusions are of a cosmic fucking scale. An hero right now.

[Anonymous No.12548728]

>>12548689
Fascist movements have generally had anti-capitalist sentiments, but pragmatic statesmanship has generally meant cooperation with industrialists at the expense of the workers.

[Anonymous No.12548729]

Working is gay and there is no suggesting ill actually like doing it under whatever lefty system there is instead

[Anonymous No.12548738]

>>12548536
every time we get optimistic about technology we think we can centrally plan markets and it'd be better.
It would be better but I don't think we will ever have the computing power to do it right. Until then, bureaucracy. We all know how that goes.

[Anonymous No.12548747]

>>12548724
See? You're trapped in the belief that the third option is evil, thus ensuring you will always be stuck between the two far worse options.

The third option was destroyed. It never failed, unlike the other two.

[Anonymous No.12548750]

>>12548536
it works for like 3 people and everyone else is a poor faggot

[Anonymous No.12548759]

>>12548658
That's insane. you're insane. stop tripfagging, plEase

[Anonymous No.12548762]

>>12548724
>affordable housing
>safe, well paying jobs
>loans without interest
>get paid to have kids
>everyone is happy and safe
>only price is kicking out the one people who would try to undermine it and make things as shitty as they are now

Oh no, how terrible.

[Anonymous No.12548763]

>>12548747
I said fucking kill yourself you deluded piece of degenerate filth.

[Anonymous No.12548767]

>>12548763
Enjoy the world you deserve then.

[Anonymous No.12548768]

>>12548762
You know we'd run out of money, right? we're already out of money.

[Anonymous No.12548779]

>>12548694
Fascism is anti-capitalist.

[Anonymous No.12548781]

>>12548555
what commies say they want:
>workers own and control everything themselves
>classless, stateless society

what actually happens when commies gain power:
>the state owns and controls everything
>commies rule and control the state

[Anonymous No.12548783]

>>12548747
The ‘third option’ (as if communism and free market liberalism are the only alternatives) brought about its own destruction. Maybe it’s different for neo-Nazis, but the aesthetisation of war, the war economy, the necessity of struggle, etc. was a major component of the so-called third way. Then again, maybe that was just National Socialism. Don’t know how Italian fascism might have turned out without Germany’s war.

[Anonymous No.12548784]

>>12548767
Enjoy the fires of hell.

[Anonymous No.12548790]

>>12548779
national socialism is anti-capitalist. Fascism doesn't really care either way.

>>12548768
Germany didn't, even with massive debts put on them after ww1 by the other nations.

[Anonymous No.12548792]

>>12548762
I honestly have no problem with these things but is pure idealism like commie garbage and never plays out that way

[Anonymous No.12548793]

>>12548651
I don't get how /pol/ hates the ultrarich class (Jews), but then votes to give more of their personal income to them just so they can have the country's few socialist benefits taken away.

[Anonymous No.12548794]

>>12548783
It brought about its destruction by being too successful. That's it.

>>12548784
We already are. we've been there since 1945.

[Anonymous No.12548799]

>>12548762
Deluded as always.
>obsession with preparing an individual's body for use by the state, usually martial use
>propaganda, no truth at all, no light; poor understanding of world history and current events, replaced with myths
>a fetish for the concept of "the land" or "nature" only as the soil part of blood-and-soil
>fear of artistic movements that do not further or flatter a totalitarian state
>warmongering in general
And ultranationalism in general never leads to anything bad either right and is obviously completely rational, right?

[Anonymous No.12548802]

>>12548792
Except that one time when it had to be destroyed forever.

[Anonymous No.12548804]

>>12548790
yeah the german economic situation post ww1 was legendarily awesome

[Anonymous No.12548805]

Is there any better way of baiting arguing retards like flies to shit than pretending to be dumb. Dumb OP = 300 reply thread in minutes

[Anonymous No.12548808]

>>12548794
Oh lord, imagine unironically being a natsoc

[Anonymous No.12548809]

>>12548536
Being the best we have now doesn't mean it's the best we can have. You could say the same of every system preceeding capitalism

[Anonymous No.12548813]

>>12548793
/pol/ hates the neocons and republicans. You are mistaking /pol/ for /r/The_Donald.

[Anonymous No.12548814]

OP and everyone in this thread need to return to their gay little discord server.

[Anonymous No.12548820]

>>12548799
>nationalism is bad
>he says while living in a nation
Hilarious.

[Anonymous No.12548825]

>>12548799
>fear of artistic movements that do not further or flatter a totalitarian state
>i want my child porn art
That was all you had to say.

[Anonymous No.12548827]

>>12548808

[Anonymous No.12548829]

>>12548793
to troll the libtards

[Anonymous No.12548831]

Marxism is for furries and trannies
How are you going to start a revolution with such stock

[Anonymous No.12548837]

>>12548794
>It brought about its destruction by being too successful. That's it.
Even a genuine fascist shouldn’t depend on such glib rhetoric. By being too successful? What the hell does that mean? How does that square with the historical facts of Germany’s annexation of multiple surrounding nations (including non-ethnic German territories, such as the entirety of the Czech Republic) and the violent invasion of Poland? What about the fact that the UK was resistant to any confrontation with Germany for the better part of a decade and pursued a deliberate policy of appeasement, refusing to rearm itself? What about the fact that even after the declaration of war, the number of actual armed confrontations between France/UK and Germany for the next YEAR could be counted on one hand? What about the fact that Germany began the war proper with the invasion of France? What about the fact that the war against the Soviets was initiated entirely by Germany on Hitler’s will alone? What about the fact that America was resistant to enter the war and only did so after provocation by Japan and a completely inexplicable declaration of war by Germany?

[the guy who is always right No.12548861]

>>12548536
I really hate online commies and socialists.
You guys are somehow universally simultaneously pathetic and manipulative, well read and underinformed.
Communism is the original online rabbit hole (idk maybe anarchism or something), one of those positively reinforcing feedback loops where you find yourself surrounded by information which preserves your biases, constant inoculation with overly simplistic answers to meaningful criticisms of your ideas, even a little bit of demonization of the "other," suddenly you don't care about the human rights of rich people. I mean they claim to just joke about it but murdering people and taking their shit is very fundamentally wrong.
Obviously fascism is bad too. Fascism would be worse for the world if it took off but every fascist is a pimplefaced kid who will grow out of it, or will purposefully seclude themselves from the world. Commies have an inherent need to spread their ideology, they tend to be socialized hip young people in the city. More dangerous due to it's growth potential in my opinion.
Sorry guys but the only path forward is distrust of everyone and everything, constant paranoia, and cosmopolitan pragmatism.
Go ahead and cite me.

[Anonymous No.12548871]

>>12548861
>human rights
>objective morality

holy yikes

[Anonymous No.12548874]

>>12548861
>Obviously fascism is bad too.

Are you Jewish?

[the guy who is always right No.12548876]

>>12548871
Yikes is a refuge for those without thoughts

[Anonymous No.12548878]

>>12548837
>By being too successful? What the hell does that mean?
it became an economic threat to GB and the USA.

>How does that square with the historical facts of Germany’s annexation of multiple surrounding nations
That's what nations do.

>What about the fact that the UK
Yet they still did, quite shortly after the rothchild was ransomed.

>What about the fact that even after the declaration of war, the number of actual armed confrontations between France/UK and Germany for the next YEAR could be counted on one hand?
Germany never wanted war.

>What about the fact that Germany began the war proper with the invasion of France?
It needed to be liberated and they were greeted as such.

>What about the fact that the war against the Soviets was initiated entirely by Germany on Hitler’s will alone?
Communism could not be allowed to fester, especially when it was being backed by the USA and GB.

>What about the fact that America was resistant to enter the war and only did so after provocation by Japan and a completely inexplicable declaration of war by Germany?
They sent plenty of supplies, they were cowardly then as when they used nuclear weapons on thousands of civilians.

Why aren't more historical events illegal to be skeptical of?

[Anonymous No.12548885]

>>12548825
The Nazis banned the works of Kafka, Heine, Döblin, Gide, Hemingway, Hesse, Huxley, Kästner, London, Mann, Musil, Proust, Remarque, Roth, Wells, Wilde, and Zweig; and even nationalists like Gottfried Benn, Ernst Jünger, Emil Nolde etc found themselves harassed, blacklisted and raided. Hell, many conservatives, Christians and reactionaries were assassinated or sent to concentration camps. Edgar Julius Jung and Friedrich Reck come to mind.

[Anonymous No.12548889]

>>12548861
They seriously see no problems with their beliefs. It is the ULTIMATE solution. Its pure religious fanaticism

[Anonymous No.12548899]

>>12548783
Not all fascists are Nazis.
Franco's Spain was quite stable and betternoff than any CNT Iberia would have been. China and Israel are fascist nations and are super prosperous.

[Anonymous No.12548906]

>>12548899
>Franco

Not fascist.

[Anonymous No.12548907]

>>12548885
No loss.

[Anonymous No.12548913]

>>12548889
Don't pretend like it's unique to them but yeah it's bad. Things are bad these days.

[Anonymous No.12548915]

>>12548660
>I don't know what liberalism is
>I don't know what capitalism is

[Anonymous No.12548918]

>>12548899
>China and Israel are fascist nations and are super prosperous.

I agree on that. Even the Jews agree that Fascism is the best system,

[Anonymous No.12548919]

>>12548915
Define them for us, sweaty.

[Anonymous No.12548922]

>lefty
>Equality of oppurtunity =/= equality of outcome

Doesnt this like defeat the whole purpose of equal oppurtunity? Is that why they have to get rid of the idea of class?

[Anonymous No.12548923]

>>>/trannydiscord/

[Anonymous No.12548925]

>>12548790
Germany's economy was fundamentally fucked and would have had serious problems in the future

[Anonymous No.12548933]

>>12548885
You're point being?

[Anonymous No.12548936]

>>12548925
Which is why it took the might of the rest of the world's superpowers to take it down.

[Anonymous No.12548940]

>>12548925
>200% of world GDP goes to paying off debt.
Oh i guess we really dodged a bullet.

[Anonymous No.12548941]

>>12548925
Always the same lie.

[Anonymous No.12548944]

Class exploitation
Alienation from labour
Jobs become profit driven rather than just working because you enjoy the satisfaction of being skilled at something

[Anonymous No.12548954]

>>12548536
it prioritizes anything that makes money. obviously, many authors are against it

[Anonymous No.12548955]

>>12548944
the whole point of marxism is to exploit classes.

[Anonymous No.12548958]

How about a synthesis of all three ways: Liberalism, Marxism, and fascism combined? How about transgender-strasserism-juche ideology

[Anonymous No.12548962]

>>12548919
look it up yourself

liberalism is aligned with free markets

[Anonymous No.12548963]

>>12548944
And (((who))) is behind all that?

[Anonymous No.12548966]

>>12548536
weak bait

[Anonymous No.12548968]

>>12548962
i did look it up, it said i was right. What's your definition?

>liberalism is aligned with free markets
which is why so many liberals want free healthcare, lololol

[Anonymous No.12548972]

>>12548878
>Germany never wanted war.
Germany, perhaps not. Hitler, yes. This is well-documented, especially because not all the party members agreed. Göring, for instance, was opposed to the war.
>It needed to be liberated and they were greeted as such.
Liberated from whom?
>Why aren't more historical events illegal to be skeptical of?
Holocaust denial is only illegal in continental European countries, which don’t exactly have a long history of free speech protection. Also, the Armenian genocide, Cambodian genocide, Holodomor have legal protections against ‘denialism’ in these places also.
>>12548899
Franco’s Spain doesn’t really qualify as fascist. Israel and China are certainly more ethno-centric and than Western countries, and China has concentration camps for Muslims and so on, emphasis on civic virtue, etc. Apart from little based and redpilled elements, however, and generic hallmarks of state repression, I think it’s a little specious to label it as fascist, especially when it doesn’t self-identify with or aspire to fascist ideals or conventions. I might just be unfamiliar with the topic, but from what i can see Chinese politics is still rife with references to Marx, Lenin, Mao, and all kinds of bureaucratic doctrinaire hellishness.
>>12548907
And what great artists remain or make up for this gulf?
>>12548933
Bad pic, as many of these artists were tolerated or celebrated in Imperial Germany.

[Anonymous No.12548974]

>>12548968

[Anonymous No.12548983]

>>12548936
War was a necessary step for Germany to avoid economic collapse, but it only delayed things.

Defeating France wasn't an achievement either. They were an old, out of date army and relied on the Maginot, which completely failed the moment Belgium lost their nerve and ruined the front France was planning for.
Poland was even more of a joke and Germany couldn't defeat Britain at land or sea, which was the only nation that could claim to be competent at something.

The fact that Germany couldn't defeat the Soviets after eliminating the bulk of their standing army almost immediately says for about Germany than I ever could.

[Anonymous No.12548989]

>>12548972
>China are certainly more ethno-centric and than Western countries, and China has concentration camps for Muslims and so on, emphasis on civic virtue, etc.

And these are all good things.

[Anonymous No.12548994]

>>12548813
where do you think the massive influx of /pol/ users came from in 2016?

[Anonymous No.12548998]

>>12548968
Americans misuse the term. Elsewhere in the world, liberalism is equated to economic conservatism. Australia for instance has a right wing party called the Liberal Party

If you looked it up and read into its history, you'd see the free market components.

[Anonymous No.12549000]

>>12548972
>This is well-documented
amazingly easy to fake documents from that era, not that you care.
>Liberated from whom?
the capitalists ruining the place. Just look at how well france turned out. It won't even be french soon.
>Holocaust denial is only illegal in continental European countries, which don’t exactly have a long history of free speech protection. Also, the Armenian genocide, Cambodian genocide, Holodomor have legal protections against ‘denialism’ in these places also.
Of those, how many are illegal in more than one country?

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !mxvabIoSIE No.12549002]

>>12548963
ANYONE WITH MONEY

[Anonymous No.12549007]

>>12549002
Mostly Jews.

[Anonymous No.12549008]

>>12549000
>amazingly easy to fake documents from that era, not that you car
so on what basis do you think that Germany didn't want war when you're happy to discard any primary evidence from the time

[Anonymous No.12549010]

>>12548994
Most users of /pol/ are retards that spend the day discussing if Bulma from DBZ is white or not.

[Anonymous No.12549014]

>>12548963
Capitalists worldwide

Murdoch for instance is an Australian anglo

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !mxvabIoSIE No.12549015]

>>12549007
Irrelevant. It would all be the same if some other group did the same. The problem is systemic, not tribal

[Anonymous No.12549016]

>>12548983
>War was a necessary step for Germany to avoid economic collapse, but it only delayed things.
Only war with poland was necessary because poland was being a shit about the border and because germany needed more land to grow food so they couldn't have another 800,000+ killed via starvation should the "allies" blockade them again, as they did AFTER ww1 was already over.

>Defeating France wasn't an achievement either.
It was because it liberated them.

>Germany couldn't defeat Britain at land or sea
Britain was so mired in debt it could barely do anything and it had zero defense against rocket attacks.

>>12548998
The USA is the third largest nation. The "elsewhere in the world" definition is the minority.

[Anonymous No.12549020]

>>12549000
>amazingly easy to fake documents from that era, not that you care.
This is an easy non-specific catch-all which lets you slip out of anything inconvenient. Doesn’t even hold up, as historians have been ruthlessly critical of dubious sources, regardless of whether they make Nazis look bad.
>

[Anonymous No.12549024]

>>12549016
China and India sweaty

[Anonymous No.12549025]

I've never understood how people who would laugh at the idea of patriarchy and all the leftist nonsense can then unironically think the Jews are the are behind everything.

Can't you see that you're doing exactly what they are doing? For sjws it's a refusal to accept that not all cultures are equal so they make up a story after oppression. You guys do the same think except you know not all cultures are equal, you just refuse to except that there could be a culture better than your own so you say they're an oppressive ruling class

[Anonymous No.12549029]

>>12548536
sage you wee cunt

[Anonymous No.12549032]

>>12549008
>so on what basis do you think that Germany didn't want war when you're happy to discard any primary evidence from the time
The character they showed in multiple instances where lying wouldn't be a benefit to germany's enemies. Things like the first animal rights, the haavara agreement, the christmas day armistice in ww1, etc etc. The whole narrative of "they were monsters" was invented to keep the world strangled by debt for as long as possible. You perpetuate the world's suffering by spreading it.

[Anonymous No.12549036]

>>12549015
Whites can live without usury/capitalism. Jews can't.

[Anonymous No.12549040]

>>12549032
>animal rights means they weren't planning for next war

Tell me about the Sudetenland, the Rhineland and Danzig.

[Anonymous No.12549041]

>>12548536
It's not just laziness, it's also arrogance, fueled by desperation. Anti-capitalists think they deserve better, even though the vast majority have nothing to offer anyone. And they will routinely tell you that capitalism rewards the wrong people, but anyone who has worked in a serious company before knows that that is a major crock of shit. Every system has its cheats, but capitalism rewards cheats less often than not.

[Anonymous No.12549043]

>>12549020
>Doesn’t even hold up, as historians have been ruthlessly critical of dubious sources
They literally cannot be, since being critical of it would amount to holocaust denial and mandatory prison sentences.

History denial laws make history too murky to be certain about. Get rid of the laws and then we make things a little clearer, but so much time has passed and so much evidence destroyed that it's impossible to know at this point.

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !mxvabIoSIE No.12549045]

>>12549036
It's more than usury