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I'm new to /lit/, how the fuck are there so many people on here that hate women, racial minorities, LGBTQ+ people, etc? Reading is all about better understanding empathy and the human condition, and yet I see so much hatred and bigotry on here that it may as well be /pol/ with a few more intelligent folks.

>> No.12530831

>>12530821
It's much better if you avoid the bait threads, which bring in triggered crossboarders and /lit/tards who don't actually read, like this one is sure to.
Stick to threads actually discussing specific works of literature and not >tfw no girlfriend or "why can't the blacks/women write??"

>> No.12530833

>>12530821
Do you know who invented asexual reproduction?
your wife

>> No.12530837

>>12530821
>Reading is all about better understanding empathy and the human condition

These things are only achieved through great writing and there are only a dozen or so writers who are not white men and are great writers.

>> No.12530838

>>12530821
We don't have enough posters to bury /pol/ overtures.

Also the entire modern publishing industry exists to give scifi awards to female black authors, so any attempt to objectively rate literature will look racist and sexist in comparison.

>> No.12530840

>>12530821
based bait poster

>>12530831
based oblivious retard

>> No.12530841

>>12530831
Alright, that sounds like good advice. Thanks.

>> No.12530843

>>12530821
I really really hate progressives so I argue in favor of racism, sexism, etc. to spite them.

>> No.12530847

/lit/ is worse than /pol/.

/pol/ is

>well, I don't have a problem with them, what they do is their business

/lit/

>sodomy is a revolution against human nature, everything people do, affects society. Abominations and defects should be gassed.

>> No.12530859

>>12530837
>>12530838
Both good points. I'm less concerned about the writers being discussed than the hatred seen in the comments sections.

>> No.12530861

>>12530821
>Reading is all about
you made the mistake of assuming the majority of people here read. it's actually the minority.

>> No.12530942

>>12530837
Agreed with this, which is part of why I come here because I don't want to hear about why x irrelevant non-white male author is actually a genius because we need more diversity (but how dare you imply they're extremely mediocre compared to the canon at large).
But also, while I Personally don't see too much racism here, but there's obviously a lot of /r9k/ types who dislike women greatly - definitely more so than average on this site, I'd say - and I'm not sure why that is.
I'm not OP either.

>> No.12530951

>>12530821
what do you expect when we have a nazi president who sets up concentration camps on the border

>> No.12530955

>>12530821
you do realize there are women, racial "minorities", and LGBTQ+ people that are bigoted towards men, whites, and straight people?

>> No.12530965

>>12530847
So /lit/ was right all along

>> No.12530967

>>12530955
you realize that I fucking fucked your fucking mother motherfucker go back from whence you came?

>> No.12530969

>>12530861
That's great. I love minorities!

>> No.12530971

>tfw black

I've barely seen any genuine hatred or racism on /lit/, it's comfy here

>> No.12530973

>>12530843
This is it mostly for me, my racism and misogony or whatever is largely satirical ofc its not for everybody.

>> No.12530974

>>12530821
>LGBTQ+ people

>>12530837
>there are only a dozen or so writers who are not white men and are great writers.

Also to add to this, I didn't include "straight" because there are so many great gay writers because homo is for intellectuals.

>> No.12530981

>>12530955
ok nazi

>> No.12530983

>>12530971
just know your place, nigger, and you'll be fine.

>> No.12530985

>>12530967
you realize you just lost the argument, right?

>> No.12530987

>>12530985
you realize that you're a shitstain?

>> No.12530996

>>12530985
you realize that you lost your country, right?

>> No.12531003

>>12530955
Yes, but should you copy their behaviour unless you approve of it?

>> No.12531004

>>12530987
then that makes you a shitstain too, since you clearly have hate in your heart :)
btw, you're REALLY bad at debating. Leaping directly to insults is the surest sign of pleb IQ.

>> No.12531019

>>12530996
we will see

>> No.12531023

>>12531004
lmao

>> No.12531028

what boards have not been infested by /pol/

>> No.12531040
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>>12531019
sure, buddy..

>> No.12531044

>>12531003
i think you misunderstand me. I never said I hate "minorities", women, or lgbtq+.
I just find it odd that OP is complaining about people that do hate aforementioned groups, even though it's only a minority of straight white men that fall under that category, and yet completely ignores the fact that people in his/her own group are equally hateful of straight white men.
I.e. it's hypocrisy. If you want to end hatred, then start with yourself, and stop being hateful towards straight white men. Over time, they (the small group of hateful white men) will learn to stop hating too.

>> No.12531051

>>12531040
The whites mostly moved, theyre still in the country. Again we will see what happens when things come to a head

>> No.12531052
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>>12530821
Welcome to the most insufferably ironic website on the entire internet. I am Adolf Hitler, I will be your guide.

>> No.12531059

>>12531044
racism is prejudice plus power desu

>> No.12531061
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>>12531051
right, right.. any day now

>> No.12531063

>>12530983
I am not American, the term nigger means nothing as I am not descended from slaves.

Kike

>> No.12531068

>>12531061
If you think nothing ever changes you don't know much about history

>> No.12531075

>>12531044
OP is complaining specifically about this board, and you don't get much if any hatred for straight white men here.
What you're saying is completely irrelevant, take it up with reddit/tumblr/twitter

>> No.12531084

>>12531068
Things change and your scummy hateful kind will fade into obscurity, sweetie :) Now go back to /pol/ or wherever else you larp as an aryan

>> No.12531089

>>12531059
first off, the topic was bigotry, not about racism.
definition of bigotry:
>intolerance toward those who hold different opinions from oneself.
From OP's standpoint, straight white men are bigoted.
From straight white mens' standpoint, OP is a bigot.

Also, you don't get to redefine the meaning of words, so please stop trying. "Racism", and "bigotry" doesn't just apply to straight white men.
And even IF it did (which it doesn't), that assumes that all straight white men are "in power", or "have power", which they don't. A very small percentage of people have real "power", and some are white, some black, some asian, some hispanic, etc.

>> No.12531091

>>12531063
you dont have to be american to be a nigger. you said you were black so i called you that. now fuck off to your 3rd world homo erectus cave pls and let the anglo saxon Eton educated white men discuss the Western canon

>> No.12531104

>>12531075
> and you don't get much if any hatred for straight white men here
Wrong. There is hatred for straight white men here. Lot's of hateful left-wing people come here, constantly complaining about /pol/, or Trump, or Christians, or white men in general (like OP just did).

>> No.12531105

>>12531084
Maybe, or maybe history will do what it normal does- ethnic warfare. You could be right, you could also be very wrong. There are a hell of a lot of conservative white men with guns in America, and the two forces capable of stopping them, the police and military, are also made up largely of conservative white men.

On the off chance that America just becomes latin america, you can look forward to Hispanic gangs racially cleansing blacks like theyre doing in California right now.

>> No.12531108

>>12531089
>some are white, some black, some asian, some hispanic, etc
they're mostly white tbqh

>> No.12531110

>>12530821
>>12530838
>>12531028

It is not about /pol/. Most /pol/acks don't care too much about other 4chan boards.
It is a pushback against a very dominant politically correct culture.

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>>12531084
the hate is strong with you, Sith. Move away from the Dark Side of the Force, let go of your hate.

>> No.12531122

>>12531110
Sure thing /pol/

>> No.12531129

>>12531108
maybe in America and Europe, where it's white majority countries, but why does that offend you so much?
Black people have the power in African countries, Asians have the power in Asian countries, Hispanics in Hispanic countries, etc.
It really just sounds like you hate white people simply for existing.
I.e. you're a hateful person.
let go of your hatred.

>> No.12531161

>>12530821

>Reading is all about better understanding empathy and the human condition

Better understanding of what? Of those things? Then surely an environment in which you can question their dogmas is paramount.

Empathy? Not all theology, philosophy & literature is empathetic.

Muh Human Gondijin

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Now that the dust has settled... how would you rate OP's attempt?
I thought the general idea was OK and he probably got a few unironic replies, but it just didn't feel right overall. The second sentence in particular gave it away, he went too far IMO.

6/10

>> No.12531165

>>12531104
Literally where?
You're deluded if you believe OP showed hatred for white men.

>> No.12531186

>>12531104
OP here. I've seen people on this board hating on capitalism and Christianity, but not really white men. I agree that when the groups I talked about originally are prejudiced towards white men it's bad, I just don't see much of it on this board. The differences in hating on capitalism or Christianity and hating on racial minorities, women, or LGBTQ+ is that being the former is a choice, while being the latter is not. I wish people wouldn't be dicks about Christianity, but it's also a topic that's up for debate. Being black is not, which is why your comparison was a false equivalency. I hope I've cleared the air.

>> No.12531202

>>12531186
decent imitation of the reddit style desu

>> No.12531219
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>>12531165
show me where straight white men on here have been hateful towards those groups that OP mentioned.
see, here's the thing, I'm willing to acknowledge that there are SOME hateful white straight men (some, but not all), but you're trying to pretend that there aren't SOME hateful non-whites/women/LGBTQ+ that hate white men.
You're being disingenuous.
Instead of stereotyping people and making wild claims about "ALL white straight men are X" try being more realistic/intellectual and realize that people are individuals and don't all resemble the behavior of everyone else in their in-group.

it's also ironic that the very people claiming that they're being stereotyped by straight white men, are themselves stereotyping straight white men.
i.e. stereotyping breeds more stereotyping. Hatred breeds more hatred.
Stop being a Sith, let go of your hatred.

>> No.12531222

>>12531186
>LGBTQBBQ
>Not a choice

>> No.12531237

>>12531105
Nice fantasies you have there

>> No.12531242

>>12531222
>I choose to be gay because I enjoy experiencing tons of unnecessary hatred, discrimination, and opinions from cretins like you who still can't let people do whatever the fuck they want
Try reading any of the countless studies that have shown being gay is not a choice.

>> No.12531244

>>12531119
>>12531219
Dumb starwars-poster

>> No.12531253

>>12531219
OP mentioned nothing about straight, white men, YOU brought it up.

>> No.12531263
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>*clinks spoon on glass repeatedly to slice through the sounds of cacophonous conversation*
Good evening, ladies and gentlemen! Good evening! Thank you all for coming out to my thread tonight. Your collective presence has made this little soiree of mine quite special.
Now, as to the reason for why I've gathered you all here. I would like to propose a toast…to the Janitor!
>*murmurs of confusion travel like an ocean wave through the crowd of anons gathered around me*

Yes, the Janitor! There is nobody on this board I feel is more deserving of a few words of appreciation than my dear old Janny. He works tirelessly every day and every night, spending every waking second of his life on this site. He deletes posts fit for no anon's viewing and removes the rapscallions responsible. He doesn't even ask for monetary compensation despite working all day, but does it simply because he wants /lit/ to be the best possible version of itself it can be.
And who gets to enjoy the fruits of dear Janny's hard labor? We all do, of course! Without sweet old Janny, /lit/ would be inundated with off-topic shitposts about ecelebs and drama and other unbecoming topics that have no place on a sports imageboard for gentlemen. So here is a sincere declaration of thankfulness…to the Janitor.
>*raises glass of finely aged pinot grigio in the air for a few moments before bringing it down to my lips*

But seriously folks:
Fuck niggers
Fuck poos
Fuck chinks
Fuck sandnigs
Fuck spics
Fuck faggots
Fuck dykes
Fuck trannies
Fuck beta males
Fuck commies
Fuck weebs
Fuck incels
Fuck redditors
Fuck discorders
Fuck white knights
Fuck roasties
DEATH TO ALL THE FUCKING KIKES
But most of all, FUCK JANNY!

>> No.12531290
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>>12531186
Okay, I see where you're getting at with choosing capitalism/Christianity vs being born black or being born gay (let's just assume that you're born with it, for the sake of the argument).
But being born gay doesn't mean you have to be a degenerate sex-fiend in public. There are different degrees of "gayness", and it's the obnoxious types that white straight men disagree with.
Or to use the "minority" example, just because you're a minority doesn't mean you have to be a criminal. Being born black doesn't mean you're destined to do bad in school and be in and out of prison.
How about we all just stop stereotyping people, and judge people on their own choices.
Some white people make bad choices and land up in jail. Some black/asian/hispanics make bad choices too, and end up in jail too.
(also, the hatred for straight white men IS pretty strong here, since it's mainly left-wing people that frequent this forum. But I realize not all left-wing are like this, just a VERY VOCAL minority. The hatred for whitey often gets disguised under a hatred for capitalism or Christianity, but it's still quite obviously directed at white people in general).

At the end of the day, EVERYONE has to choose how they behave, not just Christians or Muslims or atheists, not just whites or blacks or hispanics, not just capitalists or communists, everyone. Do you decide to emanate hatred into the universe, or do you decide to emanate love and respect. (and if love/respect, then part of that means trying not to upset other people by flaunting degeneracy in their face, or trying to corrupt their children in schools or through television, or not robbing people just because you think "they can afford it". It also means straight white men shouldn't attack non-whites or gays "just because". Love and respect is reciprocal.)

>> No.12531292

>>12531263
Shut the fuck up you attention seeking idiot

>> No.12531305

>>12531242
Nigger I dont give a fuck about what fags do there is no gay gene, or any proof you are born that way.

>> No.12531306

>>12531253
OP said:
> women, racial minorities, LGBTQ+ people
so you tell me, what group WASN'T included in OP's comment?
Hint: straight white men

>> No.12531310

>>12531290
>implying hate is bad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cAKL5a_eok

>> No.12531321

>>12531310
well, OP certainly implied that hatred was intrinsically bad, otherwise why complain about how women/"minorities"/LGBTQ+ are hated upon?

>> No.12531357

>>12530821
You haven't read enough

>> No.12531360

>>12531290
I completely agree with your first and last points. Thanks for being a legit replier.

>> No.12531375

>>12531290
Yeah its super obvious hating capitalism and christianity is a borderline dog whistle for the west aka white people.

>> No.12531400

>>12531292
It looks like I struck a nerve

>> No.12531407

>>12531044
If you want to end hatred, then start with yourself, and stop being hateful towards straight white men. Over time, they (the small group of hateful white men) will learn to stop hating too.

Dude. I think you missed... thousands of years of human history? When have white people EVER stop hating?

>> No.12531419

>>12531263
based as FUCK

>>12531292
fuck off

>> No.12531424

>>12530971

You rambunctious sword, you.

>> No.12531438

>>12531407
True... so why do I have to actually care then? Either exterminate the white menace now or just let the demographics do its thing.

>> No.12531443

>muh racism
>muh misogyny
literally the the final defence against an influx of normalfaggots from reddit, twitter and various other shit sites. at this point it's not even about supporting the ideas behind the posts, but rather
accepting it as necessary in order to make this place inaccessible for anyone who takes great offence to such meaningless shitposting and will almost certainly reduce freedom of discussion, be it meaningful in itself or not

>> No.12531459

>>12531306
But how does OP's post hate on straight white men?
You're digging for victim points just as badly as your average twitter blue checkmark.

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>>12530821
>Reading is all about better understanding empathy and the human condition
>implying understanding the human condition will make you empathetic towards it
Bourgeoise fool

>> No.12531495

>>12531407
>>12531438
You guys will never see a world without white people and you clearly have massive inferiority complexes about not being white

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>>12530821
>he needs a book to feel empathetic towards others
That's like needing to watch a motivational video in order to feel motivated

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>>12531707
not showing much empathy for op's empathy process m8

>> No.12531979

>>12531459
because there's the tacit assumption that only straight white men are bigots, when the truth is that ANYONE can be a bigot, even female black lesbians.

>> No.12531983

>>12531474
Celine is profoundly empathetic towards humanity and is thus capable of real misanthropy.

>> No.12531985

>>12531979
No?
It's just that you don't see that kind of bigotry here.
In the same way you might go to some left-idpol place and tell them that white men aren't the devil and they're alienated good people who could support their purported cause.
And they, like you, would probably go "are you implying that women/black people are lesser????"
Because you're all the fucking same.

>> No.12531994

>>12531979
Racism =\= prejudice
Come on now, are you even in college?

>> No.12532001

>>12531407
if you think white people are the only people to ever hate, then you clearly missed out on a LOT of history.
every single culture has hated or mistreated others, some hated the next tribe over, some hated the next kingdom over, some people just hate those on the wrong side of the railroad tracks.
Yes, white people have done some messed up things, but they also contributed A LOT (actually, they contributed the MOST) towards ending that cycle of hatred. (e.g. Civil War, WW2)
Your hatred towards white people is blinding you to the good that whites have brought to the world, and only allowing you to focus on the bad.
stop being so hateful. Be the good that wish to see in the world. By continuing to emanate hatred, you will only create more hatred.

>> No.12532004

>>12530821
What does empathy and the human condition have to do with dumb fake shit pushed by powerful institutions.

>> No.12532026

>>12531994
sorry, but you don't get to change the definition of words.
Just because certain ultra-radical left-wing professors think that "only white people can be racist", doesn't make it true.
Anyone can be racist, even blacks and hispanics.
There isn't a dictionary in the world that uses your version of 'racism'.
Besides, OP's topic wasn't about racism, it was about bigotry. Bigotry is "being intolerant towards people that disagree with you".
Guess what, that means that you're a bigot for being intolerant towards straight white men that disagree with your opinion about "all straight white men are racist".

Even from a practical standpoint, do you really think going around calling white people "evil" is going to endear them to you?

And what does college have to do with anything? Do you honestly think only people that have gone to college are allowed to have an opinion? That's very intolerant of you, bigot.

>> No.12532028

>>12532026
lmao son chill, you’re so mad your reading comp is bottoming out

>> No.12532033

Sorry but being a reactionary this is how I roll, at least until the death squads come and I have to chuck some molotov

>> No.12532061

>>12532028
i thought you were saying "racism is power, plus privilege. and only white people have power, so only whites can be racist, everyone else is just prejudiced." A common talking point among some left-wing.
my apologies if that wasn't what you were saying.

>> No.12532066

>>12531407
>When have white people EVER stop hating?
maybe when they killed and died to free the niggers everywhere on this planet?

>> No.12532096

/lit/ hates everything, stop feeling special

>> No.12532166

Nice try with this bait, neck yourself faggot.

>> No.12532172

/pol/tards and Americans. Ignore both.

>> No.12532257

>>12531122
Not him
but even if you label it /pol/ or alt-right or whatever, that anon's point is correct. The labels are applied to categorize, manage, diminish a cultural reaction.
We can talk about whether that's a good thing or not, or whether its useful and to what end.

>> No.12532282

>>12530847
>human nature
/lit/ doesn't care about rest of shitholes. They are on the never ending quest of save the west.

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>>12530821

>> No.12532488

>>12530821
Because they’re useless and don’t make good writing and they’re not smart or self-aware enough to even understand what they lack.

Try to imagine a society that was run by women. Imagine the art. Imagine the politics. Imagine the scientific pursuits of space travel or microbiology.

And then imagine if Joyce was black. If Faulkner was an middle eastern immigrant. If Cormac McCarthy was Laoatian.

There’s a reason these people were never able to rise out of the mud.

But, by all means, enjoy your post-modernist feminist poetry about how hard black people have it in a society where their entire existence as a race is subsidized by people who actually work for a living. You won’t be reading any real books that have actual themes that aren’t “””oppression””” or sex and thus you won’t know what you’re missing.

>> No.12532496

>>12530942
This. Nice.

>> No.12532497

>>12531129
whites have the power in African countries retarded undergrad faggot