/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.12529950]

What is the one writer that you really like and you maybe even love all of his stuff but /lit/ never mentions him/her. I know there is one, face it

[Anonymous No.12529964]

>>12529950
Montherlant
I shill him from time to time here but I dont think anyone has ever replied

[Anonymous No.12530103]

Dennis Lehane, because Shutter Island was great, and Mystic River was great, and the whole Kenzie & Gennaro series is great, and 'Live by Night' is great, and holy shit I stopped there because I started reading classic lit, but crime fiction definitely doesn't get the love it deserves.

[Anonymous No.12530116]

>>12529950
Jo Nesbo
His novels with Harry Hole are fucking awesome

[Anonymous No.12530135]

>>12530116
>>12530103
I also am a big fan of mystery/detective novels and from what I can tell lit has no interest in storytelling without profound moral/philosophic import. It's a shame.

Also John Fante, Steve Erickson, James Ellroy

[Anonymous No.12530143]

>>12530135
And Dos Passos

[Anonymous No.12530153]

>>12530143
Hawthorne who was right on the cusp of modernism despite being considered romantic. People read his flowery prose and dismiss it but it betrays a deep insecurity & mistrust of language.

[Anonymous No.12530158]

Kevin MacDonald

[Anonymous No.12530162]

>>12530153
Tell me more, I've always found him tedious.

[Anonymous No.12530179]

>>12530162
Well, the Custom House is particularly interesting. It's the intro to SL and it's often not read because it's long, the style is dated & the humor is too, which most people don't even realize is humor. It puts forth his theory of romanticism which is at the core of all his writing, which is basically: when a mundane object is somehow transformed it becomes romantic. A rocking chair in the moonlight. A street usually crowded now empty. Etc - I'm bastardizing.

BUT TCH also does that insecure, insistent, epistemological thing of insisting that the scarlet letter is true & the narrator found the documents. Something that probably started with Defoe's Crusoe & continues to be influential in mindfucking the reader.

I'll stop here for fear of being a tedious douche, but let me know if you want more.

[Anonymous No.12530214]

>>12530179
This is historicist as fuck of me, but I assumed that the insistence on truth was a convention of the era, like the epistolary novel, partly because neither audiences nor authors were accustomed to presenting a story "straight." Analogous to how early cinema was filmed as if it were a play before filmmakers realized the potential of montage.

[Anonymous No.12530237]

>>12530214
I'm maybe not well-versed enough to confirm, but I do think it was party novelty. Long after people knew Crusoe was fictionalized, Daniel Defoe wouldn't come forward.

I think it might be contextualizing/rationalizing a novel at being "truthful." Or it could be something casting doubt on the notion of truth - like Borges later did with painstakingly detailed lit crit of fictional works. Either way - I'm into it.

But it could be a cultural/historical thing like how Russian authors would dash out dates & streets & cities. Who knows? Probably someone smarter than me.

[Anonymous No.12530243]

Poe gets no respect on /lit/

[Anonymous No.12530252]

>>12529950
Gene Wolfe

[Anonymous No.12530253]

>>12530243
nobody does. eventually you realize /lit/ has terrible taste.

[Anonymous No.12530256]

>>12529950
Poe
& unironically Mark Z. Danielewski

[Anonymous No.12530291]

>>12530253
not just terrible taste but a mix of contrarianism towards popular things & treating books like tools to be used instead of experiential things to be enjoyed.

[Anonymous No.12530296]

>>12530253
>>12530291
Why do you guys come here then?

[Anonymous No.12530298]

>>12530116
>hairy hole

[Anonymous No.12530313]

>>12530296
I'm pretentious and want to have pretentious conversations, but don't want everyone in my life to hate me. I also like reading & thinking about lit.

Not a toxic board and I don't begrudge anyone for their views - plenty of good conversations to be had.

[Anonymous No.12530325]

>>12530298
The Snowman movie is so bad I'm surprised it hasn't become a meme. Val KILMER looks like fucking roadkill and it is so poorly directed and edited, you often can't tell if characters are in the same room. The book's great though.

[Anonymous No.12530458]

>>12529950
RLS
Marvell & Ammons
among others

[Anonymous No.12530514]

>>12529950
Edwin Arlington Robinson
I know he's considered lowbrow, but he was a good craftsman and the contours of his verse are very satisfying to me, sometimes transcendently.

[Anonymous No.12530648]

I'd love for lit to get aquatinted with Gerard Reve. He's an internationally overlooked post-ww2 writer from the Netherlands, and his work would probably resonate a lot with the disillusioned youth on this board.

[Anonymous No.12530700]

Charles Dickens. Even on a thread dedicated to mentioning the unsung, he is no-where to be seen.

[Anonymous No.12530708]

Ibn Al-Haytham, author of various mathematical texts.

[Anonymous No.12530778]

>>12530700
He has his share of threads here, but nothing recently. Same with Henry James. Also if I'm not mistaken there was a Bleak House thread up less than a week ago.
Generally Dickens threads get about 25/30 responses, although that one (the BH) got only 4 or 5. He comes and goes.

[Anonymous No.12530784]

Capote

[Anonymous No.12530787]

>>12529964
seems to still be the case, haha

[Anonymous No.12530794]

>>12530296
There's actually pretty good recommendations. I've heard about many of my favorite books from here

[Anonymous No.12530866]

>>12529950
William Gibson
people always talk about Neuromancer but never any of his other works like the dank sequel Count Zero

[Anonymous No.12530901]

>>12530784
In french high school our english teacher talked about truman capote and gore vidal - why does lit ignore them? They're not as big as I thought, it seems.

[Anonymous No.12531030]

>>12530237

Bear in mind that the novel in the 19th century was still pretty young. Every author operated within realism, that is to say naturalistic-scientific or romantic-fantastic. Before modernism the novel as a medium was all about the study of humans in their environment.

[Anonymous No.12531070]

>>12530648

Like Wilde, Reve was more of a life artist before anything else. His works, some of them really great and of international stature, have this untranslateable irony to them, which will sound goofy in other languages than Dutch. I agree that he is overlooked on the international stage - what Dutch author is not?

[Anonymous No.12531514]

>>12530866
Most based of anons, Count Zero/Gibson in general is fucking great