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>talk with gf about 1984
>she says it was wrong, fascism and Stalinism don't care what we really think, only liberalism does.
>she says liberalism is more totalitarian than either because it compells us to enjoy
>mfw she is far right

Are far right wingers the classic example of double think? "N-no, liberalism is the real totalitarianism! Authoritarianism is freedom!"

>> No.12519265

>>12519257
>alt right gf
you just gave half this board an erection

>> No.12519287

>>12519257
Why would you date a right-winger?

>> No.12519310

Break up with her so she doesn't have to waste time looking for a man she can respect

>> No.12519316

>>12519257
Dugin-girls are breeding material. Don't fuck this up, cuck.

>> No.12519330

>>12519257
You are, for thinking your position is any different.

>> No.12519331

Dump her

>> No.12519335

>>12519257
>fascism doesn't care what we really think
I know it's bait, but get this non-existent strawman of a girlfriend a history book

>> No.12519358

>>12519335
It was populism sure but in the end it was still aimed at fullfilling Hitler and Musso bizzare LARP fantasy

>> No.12519363

>>12519257
she sounds based

>> No.12519542

>>12519287
She is hot, hasn't been with a guy before, and loves literature

>> No.12519591

>>12519257
what do you mean by 'far right'? ron paul is far right but a polar opposite to authoritarianism. unlike stalin, pol pot and most progressives all of which are left wing. shes also right when she says 'liberalism' acts as a moral system unlike straight capitalism which is amoral(which isn't the same as immoral)

>> No.12519618

>>12519591
Robert E. Lee is her hero

>> No.12519645

>>12519257

Sounds like you're the bottom in this relationship.

>> No.12519648

>>12519618
was she born and raised in the south? if yes then shes merely idolizing someone how stood up for his country against an invading aggressor. you can't deny slavery wasn't the only issue and history is written by the victors

>> No.12519662

>>12519648
Yeah well this day and age, people know better. Even the Bushes support removing plaques to "fallen" Confederate soldiers

>> No.12519672

>when your gf has read BNW ahead of you
>When she literally views you as a gamma male

>> No.12519678

>>12519662
>Even the Bushes
...even two lying neocons? that settles it

>> No.12519683

>>12519257
It's boring when you have a gf that agrees with you.

>> No.12519686

>>12519257
never, ever, EVER, engage a woman in a conversation about ANYTHING unrelated to food, memes, or slandering other whores.

>> No.12519696

>>12519686
Heh you and her would get along well, she's also a misogynist

>> No.12519697

You're both young and confused.

Get a job and some real life experiences

>> No.12519698

>>12519696
i think the word you're looking for is realist

>> No.12519704

>>12519686
>food
Dangerous territory
>memes
This but ironically
>slandering other whores
Why bother? Do you also think it's cool to mock the handicapped?
Conversation with women should be limited to the only topic of discussion they really care about, themselves.

>> No.12519706

>>12519697
I work for her dad

>> No.12519727

>>12519686
only engage women on the subject of how well the german economy did after 1933

>> No.12519732

>>12519648
Nah the south was full of nigger and needed a good lesson to learn its place.

>> No.12519736

>>12519727
It didn't

>> No.12519742

Muster the courage and discuss seriously with her if you are so confident in your beliefs

>> No.12519745

>>12519257
>she says liberalism is more totalitarian than either
She's right you fucking pseud.
I'm happy to know she'll dump your worthless ass soon enough.

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12519747

>>12519736
lying is a sin

>> No.12519767

>>12519257
She's too good for you. I hope she dumps you very soon.

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>>12519727
>how well the german economy did after 1933

>> No.12519798

>>12519747
I'm serious it didn't. It was already recovering before Hitler took over but he never did anything good with it. The war reparation was already taken care of thanks to the Republic economic minister. Hitler invested increasingly huge sum into the army which obviously didn't bring anything back. He also invested into the creation of a bunch of modern products such as cars, radios and flats aimed at the poor working class but it ended in a enormous failure. The sale of the volks car even ended up as a governement run scam to further finance the army. Synthetic materials were produced in order to have germany become independant from foreign trade but those were financed by taxing the actual material. Civilians productions was slowed down due to numerous and increasingly messed up foreign exchange quota which were put in place to preserve germany small amount of foreign exchange.

It was quite honestly a goddamn clusterfuck.

>> No.12519856

>>12519257
sounds like you're the cuck, OP. your gf sounds pretty based and redpilled. let me have her so i can pump her vagina with my semen and breed tons of white babies

>> No.12519866

>>12519257
>talk with gf
mistake number 2
>about 1984
mistake number 3
I hope you've identified mistake number 1 and actively try to fix it.

>> No.12519872

>>12519856
Can you smegma-covered prick even function without watching porn webms? Fucking spastic faggot.

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12519889

>>12519257
where do faggots like you find these based af women? every time i try to date i nearly drown in a sea of narcissistic positivism

>> No.12519912

>>12519698
I think the word he's looking for is "woman"

>> No.12519915

>>12519798
This. Hitler was all talk no do.
>Big business and monopolies are bad
Yet in 1937 they still controlled 70% of the production
>I like small businesses
He added restrictions that ended up shutting 20% of small businesses down.
Need I mention the Reich Labor Service

>> No.12519941

>>12519912
No, I mean like she thinks female suffrage was a bad thing

>> No.12519952

>>12519287
let me guess you aren't even going to pump her full of babies you a beta

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>>12519941
>an anti-suffragette in this day and age
You absolute son of a bitch. Relinquish her this instant

>> No.12519956

>>12519941
based and redpilled

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>>12519257
>>12519542

>> No.12519967

>>12519941
She sounds like a psycho

Dump her and move away before she kills you

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>>12519941
anon, i

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12519981

>>12519941
Anon, I...

>> No.12519984

>>12519257
>liberalism
>far right
this is actually correct though

>> No.12519996

>>12519257
At least you get to talk about this with her

My wife is all about shopping, dogs and netflix

>> No.12520057

>>12519967
I wouldn't say she's a psycho, she loves animals and children. She is zealously pro life tho, might be a sort to shoot an abortion clinic, dunno

>>12519996
She's currently boycotting netflix lol

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12520077

>>12519981
Women should not have the right to vote:
1) Nonsense "what if" situation that would not be solved but rather worsened by disallowing the female vote, the state granting or revoking voting rights is a political issue.
2) Families aren't inherently good, politics shouldn't legislate values, there is no reason to believe that female voters caused politics to decrease family values. In fact one of the first women's suffrage arguments was that they would vote in favor of family values legislation. Nonsense.
3) What a retarded high school chemistry analogy. Conservatives don't believe this stuff about the family being the smallest unit of society, he's literally pulling it out of his ass. Regardless, there's no way to tell whether conservative or liberal policy changes would strengthen or weaken the family. Both have pushed for legislation which have increased and decreased the family's strength. There is no trend either way.
Women should have the right to work:
1) Must have failed basic economics. This idea he's stating about doubling the workforce decreasing labor's power didn't actually happened, and has not happened anywhere women have been introduced to the workforce en masse. It would be more efficient under this (shitty) model of the economy to restrict 50% of the population from work but to determine which 50% through competency tests, on which a few women must statistically excel. So, many layers of retardation here.
2-6) The reality of yesteryear is like a vision of wealth untold from aladdin's cave of wonders even though the average first world individual's quality of life and net lifetime earnings have increased exponentially. I don't think you'd even find a conservative theorist who believes women had more freedom and choice pre-suffrage and equal rights vs post, and I don't believe this writer really actually believes this because they are advocating for restrictive social policy earlier in the spergdump. Oh well. Homeschool kids turn out weird, what if your child is special needs or gifted+talented, etc. Not every individual mother is capable of educating her own kids, what a bizarre fucking pipe dream. Okay. Biological clock questions have liberal answers which make more sense then this guy's rote "ban women from the workplace" solution.
End it all with "This is a war for everything you hold dear" appeal to insecurity, what a fucking retarded faggot.
Overall a retarded post and I wasted good adderall time responding to it, why would you share this image?

>> No.12520085

>>12520077
Jesus what a worthless post

>> No.12520086

>>12520077
>politics shouldn't legislate values

What else can be legislated?

>> No.12520095

>>12519996

Your fuckin fault for choosing your spouse poorly my guy

>> No.12520102

>>12519257
Op real talk here, what's the point of inventing stories like this?

>> No.12520116

>>12520086
Not fuckin values. You are a low IQ memoid if you unironically agree with the self inconsistent emotional nonsense in the image I responded to, and I regret taking the minute and a half it took me to read it and respond.

>> No.12520148

>>12520116
I didn't look at the image, but your response to it looks dimwitted. Law is predicated on values.


Rate of divorce and single motherhood are much higher today, so I would not say qualtity of life is better. Unless your sole criterion for quality of life is degree of consumption (a dangerous metric to push for infinite increase).

>> No.12520165

>>12519542
>never been with a guy before
If she's over the age of 14 she's already fucked multiple guys, sorry to be the bearer of bad news anon.

>> No.12520184

>>12519915
>controlled 70% of the production
yeah after being nationalized
>Added restrictions
yeah bro organizing small businesses into trusts is totally restricting them, really going after freemarkets right there mr undergrad socialist

>> No.12520191

tfw no redpilled gf

>> No.12520198

>>12520148
Law isn't predicated on values you fucking retard except in places like fucking saudi arabia. Maybe the most basic values like a distaste for murder and respect for negative rights.
Rate of divorce is declining and has always been low among educated, upper class people (american coastal elite democrats), things are not as simple as you wish they were. If everything was as simple as you think it is you'd have a meaningful understanding so I understand your motivated magical reasoning. My advice is to stop posting. Nice reddit spacing, faggot.

>> No.12520214

>>12520198
>Law isn't predicated on values you fucking retard except in places like fucking saudi arabia.
Of course it is, there is a metric shitton of legislation, it's not calculation, it's multiplied to achieve ends, which first require a system of values to determine which ends are desirable.

>> No.12520215

>>12520184
>yeah after being nationalized
Hitler didn't nationalize much. As soon as he came into power he privatized as much as he could.
>organizing small businesses into trusts is totally restricting them
he caused 1/5th to close
>Hitler’s administration decreed an October 1937 policy that “dissolved all corporations with a capital under $40,000 and forbade the establishment of new ones with a capital less than $200,000,” which swiftly effected the collapse of one fifth of all small corporations.
>you're a Socialist
no I'm free market capitalist but think what you want

>> No.12520291

>>12519683

Good post. Brainlets don't get this.

>> No.12520310

>>12519745
>having gay people on television is literally worse than being sent to the gulag or death camps for daring to say "i wish our leaders were a little better"

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>>12520310
Did you just critique totalitarianism?
Have a gold star

>> No.12520326

>>12520165
With women you can check that.

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>> No.12520374

>>12520165
She went to a girl's school

>> No.12520386

She's quite wrong. Leftism never censors or tells others what to think.

Only Conservatism does those things.

>> No.12520388

>>12520325
thats a yikes from me

>> No.12520413

>>12519257
liberalism is just dishonest fascism
literally no one should be a liberal in 2019 unless they support the modern status quo of genociding arab niggers and dropping democratic bombs on the poorest people on earth

>> No.12520427

>>12520413
What kind of liberalism

>> No.12520433

>>12519648
>declares war on north
>I-I'm being invaded! This is unfair!

>> No.12520436

>>12520427
the pax americana kind, aka the only kind that has been actively pushed across the globe for the past near-century

>> No.12520448

>>12519257
Isn't her argument lifted from zizek?

>> No.12520453

>>12520436
why is it considered a brainlet position to state that no matter what people call themselves in the end you always just get some small minority fucking everyone else over

>> No.12520456

>>12520433
Told the north to remove their presence and gave them ample time to do so.

>> No.12520460

>>12520448
Dunno, haven't read him, but she has several well-worn books by him

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12520463

>tfw when my alt right girlfriend makes me suck her cock

>> No.12520471

>>12520460
Zizek is far left, but people accuse him of being far right. Your gf is saying that authoritarian states merely demand obediance, while liberal societies convince you that obedience is something you want.

>> No.12520474

>>12520460
She's a crypto commie.

>> No.12520496

>>12520471
>>12520474
She thinks gay rights and feminism are poison....

>> No.12520505

>>12520496
So did Stalin and the rest of the belshovik party. You should ask her what her views are.
Also maybe read DSM 5 so you may be able to diagnose her

>> No.12520520

>>12520505
She has told me her views are similar to Eugene Genovese, but I've never read him

You think she has a disorder?

>> No.12520524

>>12520471
>people accuse him of being far right.
what the fuck? ZIzek the slovenian marxist?

>> No.12520531

>>12520520
Never heard of that guy.
>You think she has a disorder
Nah probably just an edgy phase desu. Or just part of the 0.1% of women who want their voting rights stripped away.

>> No.12520543

>>12520531
Ironically she herself votes. I pointed out her hypocrisy, and she said it's a delusion to think suffrage is about individualist rights and not about the broad impact of demographics.

>> No.12520545

>>12520520
>Eugene Genovese
He was a far left marxist who began denouncing democracy from the left. But be moved right to become a Catholic traditionalist conservative
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traditionalist_conservatism

>> No.12520563

>>12520543
Lol that's weird. Maybe she'll grow out of it or torch an abortion clinic

>> No.12520607

>>12520563
I wish she would grow out of it, she has this ideal of me as some take charge he-man who runs her life and I'm not really up to it

>> No.12520624

>>12520453
that's not a brainlet statement as long as you end it with "BECAUSE OF YOOMAN NATURE" to a crowd of thundering applause in absolute awe of the gnosis

>> No.12520635

>>12520524
mutterings of "crypto-fascism" as if it's not enough to impose your will upon the conscious mind but also the unconscious

>> No.12520677

>>12519257
Give her a good dicking and turn her into a communist.

>> No.12520680

>>12519257
could be a marxist critique, not necessarily far right

>> No.12520686

>>12520677
She fell for the chastity meme and basically worships her old man

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>>12520686
does she now

>> No.12520702

>>12520215
>freemarket capitalist
worse
>privatization
literally a meme word used to describe the nazi economy from a keynes school perspective, he nationalized all corporations by LAW

>> No.12520703

>>12520693
as in her dad

>> No.12520710

>>12520686
Tradition is more than just a meme

>> No.12520713

>>12520520
Its called being smart.

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12520911

Make her read this based lad

>> No.12520918

>>12520448
yeah

>> No.12520924

>>12519257
>wasting the chance to have a right-wing gf in 2019
Fool.

>> No.12520929

>>12520911
She has read a couple of books by Foucault, she thinks his entire philosophy is ultimately about legitimizing pederastry, lol

>> No.12520931

why are people still replying to this shitty bait thread

>> No.12520944

>>12520929
Did she even read D&P? He’s very thorough and you can see that he’s genuinely interested in the history of the prison. How does she argue against his conception of the disciplinary society and the panoptic conception of discipline? If anything, he’s been proven right by the installations of CCTV in every public place available and the constant monitoring of our online presences. And that’s not even mentioning social media which is the best documentation mechanism ever conceived

>> No.12520947

>>12519287
cause its based

>> No.12520949

>having a smart GF

Doing it wrong. Smart girls are the worst. Get yourself a nice, kind dumb girl who does as she's told and you'll be happy.

>> No.12520950

>>12519257
>gf
meh
>right-wing gf
tell me more
>right-wing gf who shits on liberalism
you had my curiosity, now you have my attention and even some of my envy tbqhwy

>> No.12520966

>>12520944
She read D&P and History of Sexuality. She thinks Foucault's ultimate agenda was about stopping pederastry from being considered psychologically aberrent and that D&P is about questioning psychological conditioning for that reason. She says Foucault opposes punishment and liberal opposition to punishment is where the problem he talks about comes from

>> No.12520968

>>12520949
>>12520607

>> No.12520974

>>12520966
Jesus, is she actually retarded? She really didn’t even address his points, but rather decided that his points were invalid because of her percieved ulterior motive? That’s like calling someone mad in an argument and thinking it was a good point

>> No.12520976

>>12520966
She deserves better than you desu.

>> No.12521008

>>12520214
As if any of the modern goals of legislation have anything to do with our american value ethic.

>> No.12521011

>>12520974
She said she opposes what he critiques, but hates his critique

>> No.12521015

>>12521008
Traitorous bastard degenerates not doing their job doesn't change the nature of their job.

>> No.12521017

>>12521008
>our american value ethic.


No such thing

>> No.12521191

>>12519287
getting your dick wet?
>>12519257
Just ignore the thot. pump, and when you're dont want to anymore, dump.

>> No.12521199

>>12519257
Just induce some anti women shit in her psyche(if she's far right she wont leave you for being one too). Make her your little slave, op

>> No.12521211

>>12520686
so you arent getting any?
why even date her if thats the case

>> No.12521250

>>12521211
She's very hot and loves literature and phil

>> No.12521255

>>12521250
>You wouldn't know her though. She goes to another school.

>> No.12521257

>>12521255
Wut. She isn't going to any atm. She finished hs at a girl's school and is taking a year off before proceeding.

>> No.12521260

>>12519257
bait.

>> No.12521288

>>12521257
autism

>> No.12521610

>>12519265
go back

>> No.12521677

>>12519287
Get jelous and go suck your 27th black boyfriend dick.

>> No.12521682

>>12520386
It's not April's fool yet.

>> No.12521685

>>12519257
She has that in common with nu-internert-forum-communists as well.

>> No.12521755

>>12520543
>it's a delusion to think suffrage is about individualist rights and not about the broad impact of demographics
She's absolutely right on that.

>> No.12521781

>>12520057
>She's currently boycotting netflix lol
Unbelievably based

>> No.12521819

>>12519542
>I'm op and my hand never has stroked another man's dick yet
Nice gf you have there