Why does the American South contain all the best American literature? The east and west coasts don't have anything literary or cultural wise that cannot be replicated anywhere else in the West. The American South seems the only genuinely unique cultural landscape of America.

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Anonymous Wed Jan 30 01:52:58 2019 No.12502604 [Reply] [Original]

Why does the American South contain all the best American literature?

The east and west coasts don't have anything literary or cultural wise that cannot be replicated anywhere else in the West.

The American South seems the only genuinely unique cultural landscape of America.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 30 02:09:02 2019 No.12502655 >>12502604 Steinbeck is nice, I like Cannary Row

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 30 02:31:18 2019 No.12502712 >>12502604 true

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 30 03:19:22 2019 No.12502812 >>12502604 >The American South seems the only genuinely unique cultural landscape of America. It is the ONLY cultural landscape in America. Period.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 30 03:21:54 2019 No.12502817 >>12502604 Being from the South means you automatically mog everyone except the people from New England. That’s the just way it is.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 30 03:26:08 2019 No.12502828 I like Flannery O'Connor, Faulkner and McCarthy. What are some other great Southern writers?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 30 03:35:46 2019 No.12502863 >>12502604 >>12502812 French influence

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 30 03:38:02 2019 No.12502874 >>12502604 >Steinbeck, Dick, Le Guin, Kerouac That's just going easy on your dumbass. They aren't even the heavy hitters.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 30 03:46:44 2019 No.12502895 >>12502874 >That's just going easy on your dumbass. They aren't even the heavy hitters. >inhales cigarette in one breath >exhales through nose

Anonymous Wed Jan 30 04:01:01 2019 No.12502938
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The american south has a very specific honor culture that has resisted both Yankee reconstruction and the tide of globalism. The idea of honor appeals to men of all colors and backgrounds. So it is not easily destroyed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture_of_honor_(Southern_United_States)

The american south culture wise has more in common with the middle east or the Japanese.
Rather than the yankee north who have a guilt culture

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 30 04:17:42 2019 No.12502963 >>12502863 >French influence checkmate

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 30 04:19:28 2019 No.12502965 >>12502895 Why are faggots in this thread obsessed with france?

Anonymous Wed Jan 30 04:21:42 2019 No.12502968

>>12502604
>There now is your insular city of the Manhattoes, belted round by wharves as Indian isles by coral reefs—commerce surrounds it with her surf. Right and left, the streets take you waterward. Its extreme downtown is the battery, where that noble mole is washed by waves, and cooled by breezes, which a few hours previous were out of sight of land. Look at the crowds of water-gazers there.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 30 06:50:27 2019 No.12503277 I don't know why people think this. the South has produced some great authors, but out best novelists are from New England, and our best poets are from New York and New Jersey,

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 30 09:18:10 2019 No.12503617 >Eliot >Twain >Hemingway >Fitzgerald >Crane >DFW Who /midwest/ master race here?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 30 09:22:28 2019 No.12503632 >>12502938 Based Christian yankees vs. Southern y'all Qaeda islamist wannabes

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 30 09:31:26 2019 No.12503670 >>12503632 >Christian yankees Funny joke

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 30 09:40:17 2019 No.12503709 >>12502828 Twain, Poe, Dickey, Capote.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 30 09:57:49 2019 No.12503754 File: 122 KB, 727x1046, Beha-Henry-James.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] The best American writer is the epitome of an effete and sexless East Coast intellectual,

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 30 10:03:22 2019 No.12503779 >>12502604 The American South unironically writes the worst literature in America. American intellectualism is sustained by the American southwest (including California) and the American northeast (particularly New England).

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 30 10:10:42 2019 No.12503799 >>12503709 Poe is New England

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 30 10:13:39 2019 No.12503807 >>12503779 >[citation needed]

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 30 10:41:15 2019 No.12503912 >>12503754 I see James being memed about here quite a bit lately, but I have never seen any specific works being mentioned. What is his best book?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 30 10:47:52 2019 No.12503930 >>12503799 Maryland, brainlet.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 30 10:51:38 2019 No.12503940 >>12502604 >The east and west coasts don't have anything literary or cultural wise that cannot be replicated anywhere else in the West. >who is Cormac McCarthy

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 30 10:52:32 2019 No.12503945 >>12503912 Start with Portrait of a Lady, Washington Square or Daisy Miller

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 30 11:44:14 2019 No.12504158 I only know Cormac McCarthy and Mark Twain, they aren't from the South.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 30 11:51:03 2019 No.12504192 >>12504158 Both are from the south, moron. As are: Dickey, Faulkner, Capote, O’Connor, O Henry, Poe and a slew of others. Embleer Frith people are ignorant beyond belief.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 30 16:58:22 2019 No.12505651 uncle toms cabin

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 30 17:11:44 2019 No.12505746 >>12504192 Mark Twain is from Missouri you reprobate.

Anonymous Wed Jan 30 17:12:45 2019 No.12505750
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>tfw member of the southern /lit/ masterrace
>tfw European women love our accents
>tfw /innawoods/ comes naturally
>tfw natural born carpenter, mechanic, and engineer
>tfw 6’3 from all the cornbread I’ve ate
>tfw have the least depraved and most traditional values in the country
>tfw have the richest culture in America
>tfw 100% Germanic ancestry
How do other regions even compete?
we do still have a lot of nigs though

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 30 17:29:16 2019 No.12505840 >>12504192 McCarthy is from Rhode Island.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 30 17:30:01 2019 No.12505845 >>12503930 Maryland isn't in the South either, retard.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 30 17:31:43 2019 No.12505851 >>12505750 >100% Germanic ancestry El oh fucking el. Guaranteed you have more niggers in the woodpile than most, Cleetus.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 30 19:54:44 2019 No.12506715 >>12505746 Missouri is the fucking south, retard. Quantrill and his raiders were in MISSOURI.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 30 19:55:47 2019 No.12506723 >>12505845 The fuck it isn’t. The mason dixon line starts there. It was the ONE southern state that didn’t leave the union. Fuck you guys are frighteningly ignorant.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 30 19:56:40 2019 No.12506727 >>12502604 >The east and west coasts don't have anything literary or cultural wise that cannot be replicated anywhere else in the West. t.neverbeentoNYC

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 30 19:56:51 2019 No.12506728 >>12505840 And grew up in the south, educated in the south, lives in the south and wrote in the south.

Anonymous Wed Jan 30 20:01:32 2019 No.12506758

>>12502812
>The American South seems the only genuinely unique cultural landscape of America.
>It is the ONLY cultural landscape in America. Period.
What a load of horseshit. Get a job, save some money, go live overseas for a while. See if you still hold that silly, sheltered, opinion.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 30 20:02:09 2019 No.12506762 >>12502828 Eudora Welty and Carson McCullers

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>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 30 20:07:33 2019 No.12506795 the south IS kind of based, but we have Melville, Pound and so on

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 30 20:08:59 2019 No.12506812 >>12503940 >who is Cormac McCarthy an edgelord talentless hack writing longform videogame plots

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 30 20:10:51 2019 No.12506824 >>12506715 Missouri is in the Midwest. No one calls it the South.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 30 20:11:10 2019 No.12506827 >>12506723 He's right it's not. Maryland never seceded from the Union. >The mason dixon line starts there. Doesn't start there. It ends there.

Anonymous Wed Jan 30 20:11:23 2019 No.12506829
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Lived in rural NC for my entire life

I think it's because in the south, people are ambiguous, you meet the the nicest people, and the lowest of the low, and you can't tell who they are; people here will stab you in the back with a smile on their face.

People here are incredibly hospitable, but if someone doesn't accept the southern customs and is an asshole, that person will remember you. You can't come down in the south and act like you do on a Boston subway, you can get seriously injured or killed.

Also, when policies are implemented in Washington, people really feel it down in the south; here, people are feeling the pulse of what America really is.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 30 20:12:11 2019 No.12506837 >>12506827 So? It has and always was considered the south. Sorry for your ignorance.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 30 20:13:43 2019 No.12506846 >>12506824 https://www.raycandersonfoundation.org/assets/images/HartzfeldFinalImg1.jpg What’s this say?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 30 20:13:54 2019 No.12506849 >>12506723 >It was the ONE southern state that didn’t leave the union You don't include KY, MO and WV in the South?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 30 20:14:56 2019 No.12506858 >>12506827 Maryland is a midatlantic waste state today but in Poe's time it's not a stretch to call it culturally Southern.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 30 20:16:51 2019 No.12506877 >>12506849 Of course I do. Why wouldnt I? I merely mention that maryland is noteworthy for being the only southern state not to cede. WV being a state created from Viriginia not the same.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 30 20:18:54 2019 No.12506893 >>12506858 And it’s a moot point as Poe was raised in Virginia and educated there. But Maryland IS a southern state. Most syrupy southern accent I have ever heard was a girl from Maryland.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 30 20:27:22 2019 No.12506950 >>12506877 missouri and kentucky didn't secede either, as I recall

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 30 20:29:00 2019 No.12506961 >>12505750 >born in South Florida to Yankee parents >mom's parents are from Southern Italy, so I'm basically half brown >go to school in Gainesville >grow to like Southern culture Can I be Southern? Fuck country music though, its fucking garbage.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 30 20:30:32 2019 No.12506970 >>12506961 >Fuck country music is there any surer mark of the plebeian?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 30 20:33:01 2019 No.12506996 >>12506970 Liking mainstream rap

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 30 20:37:59 2019 No.12507030 >>12506996 I don't want to have this discussion with anyone who uses a phrase like "mainstream rap"

Anonymous Wed Jan 30 20:38:50 2019 No.12507037

>>12506950
That one is a trickier call. Neither did in name, but basically did in spirit as some of the most violent fighting took place in border states that had both pro and anti Union governments as those two did. Maryland seemed to sidestep both secession and the fighting period.

Anonymous Wed Jan 30 20:45:45 2019 No.12507080
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Question for Southerners:

As a Canadian I've always wondered why you don't get more upset about Hollywood basically equating a Southern accent with either stupidity or evil.
It pisses me off, mostly because it is lazy but also because it is an ugly generalization in an industry that touts how inclusive it is.
>Also: I lived in Dallas for a year and the museums there are absolutely elite tier - both the collections and the architecture.
Texans are good people; bothers me to see their fellow countrymen slag them off wholesale all the time.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 30 20:47:24 2019 No.12507090 >>12507080 It's a pleb filter. The kinds of people who buy into that stereotype are the kinds of people we don't want in the South anyways.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 30 20:49:25 2019 No.12507094 >>12507080 >>12507090 There's a relation between speech and thought in terms of speed.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 30 21:05:43 2019 No.12507192 >>12502938 >he believes in 1960's era anthropology literally trashed by its own author for never actually holding up How shameful. Hope you feel as guilty as you should

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 30 21:11:22 2019 No.12507232 >>12502604 >Hawthorn >Melville >Whitman >Crane >Edith Wharton >Miller >Mailer >The Divine Bloom The North Atlantic gives the South a run for its money, as does the Midwest.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 30 21:52:37 2019 No.12507479 >>12502604 The South suffers. Go there some time and see all the burned down nineteenth century buildings.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 30 21:53:12 2019 No.12507486 >>12502817 West coast actually mogs the world, but you guys are pretty close.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 30 21:54:14 2019 No.12507489 >>12507080 Texas is barely a part of the south.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 30 21:55:04 2019 No.12507498 >>12507479 And it couldn't have happened to more deserving people.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 30 21:55:58 2019 No.12507501 >>12502604 I don't like American literature at all. It seems simplistic. I prefer English and Russian authors since they like to talk about large scale themes.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 30 21:56:21 2019 No.12507505 >driving around Dixieland >cities are full of nigger >countryside has white people but everywhere looks third-world shithole tier Redpill me on the South. Where do I go to find what Dixies are talking about?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 30 21:56:43 2019 No.12507507 >>12507501 >English authors >large scale themes maybe 400 years ago

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 30 21:57:45 2019 No.12507512 >>12507505 Savannah, GA Rowan Oak, MS Memphis, TN

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 30 22:00:13 2019 No.12507527 >>12507512 these towns suck other than memphis literally have one street worth visiting in each one, other than memphis. >>12507505 there's some decent stuff in the south but you've got to get over your racism to have a chill time. Go to Nashville.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 30 22:04:51 2019 No.12507567 >>12507527 t. actual nigger

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 30 22:10:33 2019 No.12507590 >>12507527 >Savannah sucks >pretending to know what Rowan Oak is (hint: not a town) >go to Nashville you are out of your depth my boy

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 30 22:14:16 2019 No.12507608 >>12507501 >hasn’t read Faulkner

Anonymous Wed Jan 30 22:14:27 2019 No.12507610

>>12507590
>Savannah does suck, has for the last 60 years or sk
> No idea what it is, but anything in MS is shit.
>Nashville is crap, but Memphis is the fucking worst
Not the person you were replying to, but neither of you have any clue about what constitutes parts of the south worth seeing.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 30 22:17:57 2019 No.12507623 >>12507610 Who are you quoting? But seriously. Are you some Tricity yuppie or SCAD art student pretending he's from the South?

Anonymous Wed Jan 30 22:22:01 2019 No.12507643

>>12507623
Man Savannah was niggerville in the 80’s for Frith’s sake, son. I played the Big Gasoline Cycle in the mid 90s and it looked like Rwanda in the downtown area. The slum apartments looked like Dr Suess designed them.
Western NC, Northern Ga, North Fl. Western Va. Eastern Tn. These areas still have some antebellum charm, anything else is Zaire or yankee destroyed.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 30 22:22:16 2019 No.12507646 >>12507501 Holy pseud Batman!

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 30 22:22:43 2019 No.12507648 >>12507643 so funny how white southerners complain about all the niggers when they brought them over there in the first place

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 30 22:25:43 2019 No.12507666 >>12507648 Well it’s not like I did. The people who benefitted from them are long dead and left their farm machinery laying around to ruin vast swaths of the country. Not unlike dead malls, only sentient (barely) and malevolent.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 30 22:25:59 2019 No.12507667 >>12507643 >antebellum charm >Appalachia Anon I grew up in Eastern TN and central KY. Who are you trying to kid?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 30 22:28:13 2019 No.12507679 >>12507667 https://www.google.com/search?q=antebellum%20mansions%20east%20tn&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-1-m What’s this? Largest collection of Victorian homes is in Louisville. I mean, do you even think?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 30 22:30:00 2019 No.12507686 >>12507679 Have you been to Louisville? It's practically a midwestern city. I don't know what you're trying to imply.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 30 22:30:43 2019 No.12507688 All of americas best horror writers come from new england. King, poe, hp lovecraft. Its like they got some sort of horrror writer factory down there or somthin

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 30 22:31:04 2019 No.12507689 >>12507688 >Poe from the south

Anonymous Wed Jan 30 22:32:48 2019 No.12507697

>>12507686
Do you read the fucking posts? One moron(you perhaps) mentioned Kentucky so I corrected him. Also corrected them on Tn. Virginia is “barely” in the south, yet it is still the goddamn south. Embleer frith this post attracts too many yankee brainlets. Pissed off and phone posting from the stoop of their pre war, 5 flight walk up in little Mogadishu

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 30 22:35:08 2019 No.12507714 >>12507688 Poe is from the South. King is shit. Lovecraft is based, but the exception that proves the rule.

Anonymous Wed Jan 30 22:35:48 2019 No.12507716

>>12507505
The vast majority of americas black population lives in the south. Now you know why all the white people own guns and why all the white souterners despise white yankees who preach about diversity but still like live in cities where you cross the tracks and you are on the "black side of town"

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 30 22:44:24 2019 No.12507763 >>12502812 No you fucking yankee, you just think that because the culture of the American south has developed contrary to that of other American regions. The other anon is right. Leave the country for once.

Anonymous Wed Jan 30 23:16:49 2019 No.12507944

>>12507697
You mentioned places in the South with "antebellum charm?" Then mentioned Old Louisville's architecture as an example of this when you didn't even put KY in your fucking list. The regions you did list are, IMO, mostly part of Appalachia which is culturally pretty different from whatever old South you imagine.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 30 23:59:37 2019 No.12508160 >>12506961 Yes, you should move to northern Florida though. South Florida is becoming too industrialized, you won’t get the full experience in a city

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 31 00:01:56 2019 No.12508177 >>12508160 Northwest Florida*

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 31 00:05:09 2019 No.12508194 >>12507527 Memphis is a godforsaken shithole. What are you trying to convince this man to do? Get shot at a Burger King? I remember being in Memphis once and seeing an old man get robbed for $5 and some change

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 31 00:10:08 2019 No.12508218 >>12507512 Oxford, MS. Rowan Oak is the name of his house.

Anonymous Thu Jan 31 00:20:46 2019 No.12508277

>>12507944
Thats because you have no reading comprehension, retard. The Appalachians run right through the South. They START in the South, brainlet. Trying to somehow seperate them is like saying it’s “gulf coast” culture.
Fucking morons, Frith’s sake.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 31 00:22:09 2019 No.12508284 >>12506846 >>12506849 >it's a slave state so it's in the South I guess that means California is in the North right? Retard

Anonymous Thu Jan 31 00:23:17 2019 No.12508291

>>12508194
I was talked into going to Graceland, once. Memphis, was an utter shambles to the point that the hotel beside Graceland was acted as almost a fort of civilization that kept out the wild natives. They overcharged for everything as they knew no one wanted to live this lonely isle of civilization.

Anonymous Thu Jan 31 00:24:53 2019 No.12508298

>>12502604
Faulkner is swill for 130 iq balding twinks and paunch bellied alcoholic nitwit second sons in second rate MFA programs, Faulkner is the whiskey stained, ash scented malaise of the moistened, swampy Anglo-Irish half rewilded mutant race that Sherman should have laid low and offered up to the dead gods of the injun we have so foolishly incited against us. Faulkner is toilet paper and kindling, you people are animals to me, all southerners will always be nothing but beasts to be driven and counted by people with the sense to avoid rotten air and suffocating murk.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 31 00:25:16 2019 No.12508304 >>12508284 > literal bastions if confederate fighters > it’s not the south! I guess WV is the north, since they didn’t cede. What a complete brainlet.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 31 00:28:12 2019 No.12508320 >>12508304 Kentucky and West Virginia are in the South but Missouri is undoubtedly a Midwestern state. Are you American? Because I've never heard anyone call Missouri the South and I've lived in the South all my life.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 31 00:36:15 2019 No.12508358 >>12508320 It has been called southern because it is. You’re either not southern or not educated on history. NO ONE in the times of the civil war called ANY place the “midwest.” That concept came much later.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 31 00:39:04 2019 No.12508370 >>12508298 Do you ever think that you're wrong? Serious question.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 31 00:42:27 2019 No.12508391 south are inbred niggers New England is and has been the cultural and intellectual heart of America.

Anonymous Thu Jan 31 00:48:15 2019 No.12508428

As someone who grew up in the South and now lives in New England, I love that both can be considered authentic American. I'd say New England has more well-known authors, but there's just something appealing about Southern literature. I love both though.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 31 00:53:09 2019 No.12508451 >>12508298 Oh no, he called me 130 iq, how will I ever recover?

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