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Anonymous Sun Jan 27 02:11:52 2019 No.12484065 [Reply] [Original]

What books do I have to read to write the sort of imagery in End of Evangelion?

Anonymous Sun Jan 27 02:17:30 2019 No.12484094

IIRC, the christian imagery was primarily used because it was "cool, as seen by japan's culture

Here's an excerpt:

Can you explain the symbolism of the cross in Evangelion?

Kazuya Tsurumaki: There are a lot of giant robot shows in Japan, and we did want our story to have a religious theme to help distinguish us. Because Christianity is an uncommon religion in Japan we thought it would be mysterious. None of the staff who worked on Eva are Christians. There is no actual Christian meaning to the show, we just thought the visual symbols of Christianity look cool. If we had known the show would get distributed in the US and Europe we might have rethought that choice.

NGE is overhyped also, imo

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 27 02:24:57 2019 No.12484130 File: 1.43 MB, 1380x898, endofevangelion2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12484094 I mean, the Christian imagery is part of it, but what I really liked was how bizarre and sexual it was. Pic-related is a better example.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 27 02:26:45 2019 No.12484139 >>12484094 retard. stop. its not meant to be analysed, you're not meant to peroform an exegesis on the show. its meant to be visceral and evocative -- and it works.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 27 02:27:01 2019 No.12484140 >>12484094 Where the fuck did they get the qabalah stuff then? It's obscure even in the west, yet the japs dug it up somehow.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 27 02:29:29 2019 No.12484148 >>12484140 >obscure Not really.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 27 02:32:17 2019 No.12484155 >>12484148 go ahead and ask any normies if they recognize the hermetic tree of life

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 27 02:43:35 2019 No.12484195 >>12484065 fanged noumena? i dont read scifi nor can think of someone who writes about apocalyptic events with a gorey/skin tight/heavy mechanical aesthetic.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 27 02:49:55 2019 No.12484212 File: 1.75 MB, 1615x903, endofevangelion3.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 27 02:59:41 2019 No.12484234 >>12484140 sigh... >>12484148 this. >>12484155 Anyone who does any even slight research into literally any period in the history of christianity will inevitably come across many references to kabalah the same way they would to judaism

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 27 08:10:07 2019 No.12485036 >>12484140 I feel like i've seen it used a bunch in anime, they had something like it in fullmetal alchemist

Anonymous Sun Jan 27 08:13:34 2019 No.12485045

>>12484065
You've just got to be a perfect aesthete like Anno. While his writing went to shit in rebuilds he kept the aesthetic. Not everyone is born a creative genius anonymous.

I suppose you could watch a lot of mecha shows and read a lot of Christian mysticism and fanged noumena and then take a bunch of hallucinogenics and see what happens.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 27 08:16:36 2019 No.12485052 >>12484140 The qabalah thing is known among weebs thanks to Evangelion, FMA, 666 Satan, etc. Honestly I think no normie knows about it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 27 08:48:41 2019 No.12485130 Just write stuff like "there were christian crosses everywhere"

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 27 12:55:49 2019 No.12486125 >>12484140 Most normies know Kabbalah through Madonna and wearing the red string

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 27 12:56:55 2019 No.12486129 File: 891 KB, 1200x800, 1547419480567.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I THINK EVA SUCKS

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 27 13:03:10 2019 No.12486160 >>12484155 Its called the sephiroth you golem

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 27 13:41:42 2019 No.12486343 >>12484065 Is EVA the most /lit/ anime?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 27 13:52:02 2019 No.12486406 >>12486343 > I haven't even watched Kino no Tabi, but I post about anime on 4chin

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 27 13:59:11 2019 No.12486452 >>12484094 I'm not so sure about this, because another member of the team said in a different interview that the religious symbolism came entirely from Anno and didn't tell the rest of the team what his intention was

Anonymous Sun Jan 27 14:07:03 2019 No.12486498

>>12484094
What is it with anime tards and taking anything and everything said in some kind of interview as Gospel? Does it never occur to you that people are capable of contradicting themselves, lying and omitting information, both intentionally and unintentionally? You don't understand that when people are in these interviews, they're almost always in a completely different state of mind than when they were creating their work. These interviews, they're worthless. You're a fool if you put any stock in them.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 27 14:07:40 2019 No.12486502 File: 852 KB, 1748x1796, 1399665519693.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12484065 everything here. Childhood's End by arthur C Clarke is a big influence on the instrumentality scenes >>12484094 This guy is a pleb

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 27 15:06:52 2019 No.12486839 >>12484065 Unironically Devilman.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 27 15:15:11 2019 No.12486874 Childhood's end Ender's game >>12484094 Anno himself said the 'we added western words because they sounded cool' thing he said in an interview was just a joke.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 27 15:23:20 2019 No.12486916 >>12486343 It's not even anno's most /lit/ anime

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 27 15:28:48 2019 No.12486939 File: 76 KB, 538x388, wef.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12486343 Close, but Anno made something better than Eva.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 27 15:30:02 2019 No.12486942 >>12486160 the tree of life is the schematic of which the sephirothS, singular is sephirah are situated upon. pig.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 27 15:31:18 2019 No.12486948 >>12486942 That's nice satan why don't you go perform the LBRP and jack off before your shift at the gas station

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 27 15:33:10 2019 No.12486957 >>12486502 Read/watched all of those except for Sailor Moon, including reading/watching both manga/book and anime/movie when available. Is Sailor Moon any good? I only ever watched a few episodes (dubbed) with my little sister many years ago.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 27 15:33:33 2019 No.12486961 >>12484065 >ctrl + f >revelations: 0 READ THE BOOK OF REVELATIONS, THIS IS THE OBVIOUS ANSWER. >>12484094 Everyone knows already, shutup, retard.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 27 15:58:13 2019 No.12487112 >>12486948 jokes on you, i dont have a job.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 27 17:09:24 2019 No.12487600 A good anime with actual Christian themes that mean something is Angel's Egg

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 27 18:34:29 2019 No.12488101 >>12486957 It's for girls so I haven't watched it

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 27 21:01:54 2019 No.12488933 File: 1.20 MB, 1130x910, bernard-jou iwaku.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12486343 no that would be this

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 27 21:06:05 2019 No.12488961 Anno got lucky, that's all. Everything else he's done is dogshit, lmao.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 27 21:20:26 2019 No.12489030 File: 1.59 MB, 1599x843, pynch.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12488933

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 27 21:21:37 2019 No.12489039 >>12488933 That's the /sffg/ anime.

Anonymous Sun Jan 27 21:43:17 2019 No.12489156
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>>12484140
>>12485036
>>12485052
Japan, or maybe just the writers and target audience for this stuff, seems to love anything occult related.
I've lost track of how many shows mentioned tarot cards

Anonymous Sun Jan 27 21:52:42 2019 No.12489191
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>>12484065
Genesis and the Revelation to John
>>12484094
Only weebs who have never read Revelation would believe this. The Biblical imagery was extremely heavy handed and the whole show visually represented Biblical concepts that normie Christians living in nominally Christian countries usually struggle with. Pic related, it's Gendo.

Anonymous Sun Jan 27 22:00:25 2019 No.12489235

even if anno had no intention of the symbols in the show to do anything other than "look cool" (which was a joke), the symbols are symbols in the first place because they TRANSMIT MEANING ON THEIR OWN. actually use your brains for once and you should quickly come to the same conclusion as everyone who actually watched the show

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 27 23:48:27 2019 No.12489680 >>12484094 This is bullshit, Anno was very deliberate with his Christian symbolism.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 28 03:26:19 2019 No.12490451 >>12486498 This. Also that specific quote is for just the use of the crosses when the angels die, it doesn't account for all the other symbolism within the show and most of it is consistent with the over all theme of the series.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 28 07:13:58 2019 No.12490978 >>12486961 this . Dope powerful images. Not only evangelion I'm pretty sure tons of scenes of movies are based on the book of revelations.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 28 08:23:12 2019 No.12491135 >>12484094 I like how this interview forces NGE pseuds into denial and damage control every fucking time. These brainlets honestly thought they watched something deep and meaningful and - tada, a huge fuck you from the creators.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 28 08:31:35 2019 No.12491156 File: 247 KB, 1200x1042, Brainlet2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12491135 >I watch visual media for the symbolism >great direction and psychologically complex characters don't matter as long as the pretty crosses don't mean anything

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 28 08:40:59 2019 No.12491190 Please, guys, remember; Anno Hideaki is dead.

Anonymous Mon Jan 28 12:53:09 2019 No.12492138

>>12484065
>>12491022

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USKzAj1dOq4

Someone explain NGE already. I don't watch Anime and I think it's faggy. I've watched this shit and it only makes it seem worse than I imagine. Basically Freddy God Fingered without the self-awareness.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 28 15:02:03 2019 No.12492773 File: 105 KB, 1058x350, Screen Shot 2019-01-28 at 2.55.13 PM.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12484094 Evangelion never portends to be an exegesis though so it checks out.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 28 15:38:38 2019 No.12492960 >>12491156 >backtracking

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 28 18:39:18 2019 No.12494155 >>12484094 >>12491135 what Anno's assistant said in an interview 6 years later doesn't affect the content of the work you mongs

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