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What are some books dealing with the problems facing corporate managers in late capitalism? Preferably from the perspective of management.

>> No.12451634

>>12451609
I don't understand how these words can make me so mad.
Otherwise, I'm curious about any answers to OP. Most literature involving management I know of imply a subversion and/or a destruction.

>> No.12451641

something happened

>> No.12451730

Replacing Your Socialist Workforce With Robots(,) For Dummies

>"Roboworker, what is the prime directive?"
<"ELIMINATE PROLES!"
based

>> No.12451782

>>12451641
Only thing I can think of lol. More like "nothing happened" amirite! That book was terribly depressing, Slocum kept it interesting and peppy though.

>> No.12451788

Capitalism was a mistake.

>> No.12451792

Why is not wanting your employees to take time off an issue of "late capitalism" and not management in general?

>> No.12451805

>>12451634
They confirm what you already suspected to be true. That's where a lot of sadness comes from.

>> No.12451806

>>12451609
>my employees dare to actually use the vacation time i have allotted them
>how can i put a stop to this

Truly the end times.

>> No.12452021

lol at wagies

>> No.12452033

>>12451792
The problem generally only appears in that context

>> No.12452048

>>12451792
Communism is a framework that lets you identify absolutely any problem whatsoever with one cause (capitalism).
That's why its so popular with very young people, same with libertarianism.

>> No.12452053

Goddamn, fuck entering the workforce, it just seems worse and worse

>> No.12452057

As ungrateful as this CEO sounds, who the fuck seriously does that?

I couldn't go that long without time off

>> No.12452071

>>12451806
AND he posted about it on Quora.

>> No.12452088

Does sound pretty inconvienent, but bitching about it or trying to be a subversive cunt about it is shitty too

>> No.12452117

>>12452053
Let me tell you, being a NEET is much more dreadful than being employed.

no of course it isn't what the fuck am i saying lol

>> No.12452175

Hot take: just because you can doesn't mean you should

>> No.12452230

>>12452175
Right, you should spread your 15 days off evenly over the course of the year so you just leave half an hour early each day (but of course, being a good employee, you are no clock watcher so you stay the whole day anyway)

>> No.12452243

It's so funny to see American work culture as someone who is happily enjoying his 4 weeks of glorious European-obligated vacation.

>> No.12452275

>>12452117
it can be, but if you know how to structure your time it's basically sainthood in the big city

>> No.12452295

Since this is essentially a "barely on-topic thread for wagies to bitch about being wagies" thread, I have to say that LinkedIn is fucking garbage.

It's either recruiters circle jerking themselves, pointless blog posts, CEO and corporation worship, and near dystopian articles like "The gig economy allows for the flexibility of having 4 different jobs (and why that's a good thing!)" or "People are dying younger, and why that's great for your corporation's bottom line!"

It's literally just Facebook but with the veneer of professionalism. It's an unmitigated cesspool

saging for blog post

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Just found out I only have 2 weeks of holidays for my mid year break in my second year of uni. I guess wageslaving has started early for me

>> No.12452476

>>12452230
Based and workethicpilled

>> No.12452576

>>12451634
Mersault felt the same when he took his two days next to the weekend and his manager was mad at him.

>> No.12452650
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>>12452117
This. Can you imagine waking up every morning with absolutely nothing to do? Maybe you go for a walk, or sketch some trees and flowers, maybe you settle down next to the wood-stove with a good book, and with these meaningless chores fill the hours of your day. But when you settle down at night, without an ache in your back or a worry in your mind, you realize how meaningless it all is, and how unproductive you're being. Years later, you return to civilization, and find all your peers with only ten years on their mortgage, a plump wife, three kids, and the management position at the local convenience store- it is then you realize how foolish and childlike you were.

>> No.12452702

>>12451609
>tfw I work as an English TA in a school
>I hate every waking second
>the education system is fucked
>I hate the staff and most of the students and even the students I like get on my nerves after an hour
>I'm awful at the job
>I wanna leave
>but those 13 weeks of holiday though...

I'm not sure I could cope with 5 weeks of holiday a year (let alone 3, Jesus Christ yanks what the fuck is wrong with you).

>> No.12452748

>>12452033
What's "late capitalist" about that, though? I don't think even "early capitalist" managers were very keen on giving employees time off.

>> No.12452755

>>12452243
4 weeks is not enough either.

>> No.12452772

>>12452650
Speak for yourself fag, if you ain't lifting and going to God in your free time instead of reading bestsellers in your backyard while sipping ice tea like a woman ya dun goofed

>> No.12452781

>>12452748
Because now we have mandatory vacation days. Earlier the workers had less rights so the owner had nothing to bitch about.

>> No.12452788
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12452788

>>12451609

>> No.12452789

>>12452748
The absurdity of the situation and context is the "late" capitalism of the image.

>> No.12452799

>>12451792
the necessity for investment and finance capitalism requires an exponential increase in profits, far beyond humane or sustainable levels.
as this happens, all culture, humanity, or any higher ideal whatsoever will be churned up to appease international finance groups.

I say this not as a Marxist, but as a fascist.

>> No.12452821

>>12452781
>>12452789
I don't understand what's absurd about that, or what makes it late capitalism. I thought late capitalism was the end stages of capitalism, either a move towards collapse or natural flow into some variant of Marxism.

>> No.12452863

>>12451609
These people aren't human.
It's like if you read transcripts from shareholder meetings for Netflix or something. They never refer to people as people or even "audience" anymore, just "consumers". "Company x wants to make our consumers do y so we think z will help us keep our consumers content with our product because abc's algorithm ran the numbers for us."
These sort of people have a reductionist, psychopathic vocabulary and are more the carriers for aggressive mindviruses than human beings. People need to be more worried than they are right now. When the CEO of Google is reffering to them in the same way that a mathematician talks about factors in an equation (actually, even the mathematician feels more emotion towards those concepts than these hardcore corporate executives do for their customers and employees), you know things won't end well.

>> No.12452879

>>12452863
I say we burn it all down and eat them.
Extreme?
Maybe
Effective?
I don't know
But it's a lot more fun than any other alternative

>> No.12453054
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12453054

>>12452863
>>12452879
I've always thought that the tradition of self-immolation has a lot going for it. Most recently, it's what incited the Arab spring.

However, keeping with it's original Buddhist roots- I say we go a step further and remove the "self".

>> No.12453079

>>12453054
it's time to accelerate into ash

>> No.12453085

Imagine only having 3 weeks off a year

>> No.12453090

>>12453054
if you want to know the origins of buddhists getting loaded up on opium and torching themselves looking for the section on religious killings in the frazier's the golden bough, they've been doing this shit for centuries as a way to get donations, village folk come to watch the monk burn, and then the horror of it sticks with them and they keep coming back to give donations, and if no monk volunteers, just grab some kid out of the countryside, getting him fuck up, and blaze him up, you won't look at that propaganda pic the same way again

>> No.12453121

>>12453054
>20. Notice the masochistic tendency of leftist tactics. Leftists protest by lying down in front of vehicles, they intentionally provoke police or racists to abuse them, etc. These tactics may often be effective, but many leftists use them not as a means to an end but because they PREFER masochistic tactics. Self-hatred is a leftist trait.

>> No.12453133

>>12453121
they're just using the same tactics the christians used to overthrow rome, it's in nietzsche, luckily communism was defeated before it could sweep the western world, unlike christianity

>> No.12453144

>>12452033
Look up "udarnik" and "shturmovshchina". Command economies aren't better at this.

>> No.12453150

>>12453085
What if I told you I have less than that.

>> No.12453164

>>12452650
Instead, you spend your NEETdom shitposting and bitter that your peers are leaving you behind.

>> No.12453174

>>12453085
>taking time off

the puritans who built the foundations of european and american prosperity took no time off, in some places they had to make it illegal to work on sunday to get fuckers to take a break, and dudes would still be sneakin out to do work, and now what do u know, today those countries are all rich and the target of envious hate from scrubs like thou

>> No.12453176

>>12453164
There will be no behind or ahead in ~20 years

>> No.12453180

>>12453176
Keep telling yourself that until you believe it.

Keep telling yourself it is not your fault.

>> No.12453182

>>12453176
a lot of people said that in the 60s too, they all had to go back to school in the 80s at which point they were hopelessly behind their non-dropout peers, but feel free to throw your life away, just means one more job for non-incels to support their families with

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>>12452295
>>12452863
I work as a recruiter and you don't have any idea how much of that CEO and manager shit I have to read everyday, its really unsettling, its even worse than anything that Nick Land could come with, that "Happy and everything is fantastic, don't you love leaving your life here for a few dollars? Don't you want to erase the line between your work and life? We are your family!"

Its all so tiresome, Neofedaulism seems like the next logical step.

>> No.12453198

>>12451609
>Implying the state-appointed board of bureaucrats won't send you to the gulag for taking your allotted 5 days of vacation under comunism

>> No.12453201

>>12451641
Something Happened is immediately what I thought of as well. I first read it maybe 10 years ago, but I still think of the line "Sorrow is my skin condition" regularly. Underrated book imo.

>> No.12453212

>>12453196
>imagine having to do a job you don't enjoy and being this bitter about it

then again i can't really see an anime poster reaching a self-actualization stage

>> No.12453222

>>12453198
WE MUST INCREASE PRODUCTION TO REACH THE GOALS OF THE NEXT FIVE YEAR PLAN!

except it's illegal to quit and find another job because the government is the only employer! radical!

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>>12453212
I enjoy talking to people and helping find them something not so shitty to work at, makes me feel like its worth it.
But I just hate manager speak and CEO cult of personality shit.

Also, anime website you tourist.

>> No.12453238

>>12453212
Not everyone gets the opportunity to do something they enjoy for a living

>> No.12453244

>>12453230
>being that committed to children's cartoons

no wonder u have a dumb job, at least if u could find a man to knock you up you could watch cartoons with your child which would be age appropriate, but lets face the wall is here and u missed the boat

>> No.12453252

>>12453238
luckily for me i live in america where we have a free economy and people can do whatever kind of job they want, sorry to hear you live in cuba, but its cool that they're finally letting you on the internet now at least

>> No.12453257

>>12453180
I’m not even NEET you bootlicker.

>> No.12453268

>>12453257
can't be a very good job or you wouldn't be mad about it like some kid going to his shift bagging groceries after school lmao

>> No.12453271

>>12453252
*Sharts*

>> No.12453278

>>12453164
>>12453182
>believing that one can be behind or ahead in life

A monk has little to his name, but I certainly wouldn't call him "behind" even the wealthiest man.

>> No.12453280

>>12453278
I would. What a loser.

>> No.12453283

>>12453278
you need a master's degree to work for the church in any capacity beyond janitor, so if that's your goal, and you haven't even finished undergrad yet, yeah, you are behind, enjoy being 30 trying to find an entry level job

>> No.12453294

>>12453280
>living for other people's approval

you're either under 18 or a woman

>> No.12453299

>>12453196
Feudalism would be better than what we have now. Does anybody have that chart someone did once, where they added up all the time serfs actually worked in a year and found out that modern wagecucks actually work more than that?

>> No.12453300

>>12453268
Go gargle some boomer bootstrap cock. I have no shame and any millennial who does is brainwashed

>> No.12453305

>>12453196
I hope you get a better job Anon-san.

>> No.12453310

>>12453283
>enjoy being 30 trying to find an entry level job
As opposed to what? 24? How much of a lunatic do you have to be to care about something like that?

>> No.12453315

>>12453283
It was an example. I could bring up countless examples of ascetics who don't fit into the ridiculous notion of success that seems to equate to winding through an academic institution and then accumulating wealth.

>> No.12453316

>>12453121
>get rid of the “self” in “self-immolation”

Clearly the joke went right over your head.

>>12453164
Jokes on you, I’m actually a wagecuck who works thirty hours a week while going to school full time, coming home every night to collapse in bed without even the energy to cry myself to sleep.
Faggot.

>> No.12453318

I don't know shit about working jobs and never went to college yet ended up as a wageslave paralegal. Should I just kill myself already? Don't think i'm the career type and there is no use for someone like that in this world

>> No.12453322

>>12451609
>>12452243
daily reminder that nazis introduced paid time off and called it Strength through Joy and if you use it or have used it, you are a literally nazi and white supremacist.

>> No.12453337

>>12453316
I feel you man.
I did it for years with only Military service as a pause.
I legit collapsed in the summer when I came back to country and worked in retail for a month and half, and I actually had it not that bad.
I been NEETing since, and only now I find energy to even think about the next gig.

Put your health mental and physical above everything else my friend!!

>> No.12453341

>>12453322
woke af

>> No.12453344

>>12453318
Paralegals don't do anything valuable. All the firms I worked for, the paralegals spent their days googling stupid shit on the Internet.

Waste of money, all of you.

t. attorney

>> No.12453355

>>12453222
People forget that you still have a boss under comunism. The difference is under comunism your boss has guns and the right to murder you and you can't quit.

>> No.12453368

>>12452879
Based cannibalism bro

>> No.12453369

>>12453278
It isn't about wealth. Monks work, study and pray. They keep schedules and other monks depend on them. Some monks have to clean, some have to cook. In the old days, most monks had to toil in the fields or transcribe long books by hand. Even today, several monasteries keep traditional monastic workshops like breweries, confectionaries, hospitals, textile factories, etc. Everyday is a church day on top of that, and you even have to renounce certain activities that secular peoples might take as compensation for their work: you can't buy fancy clothes, you can't buy fancy furniture, you can't buy fancy trips abroad nor can you even score a blowjob for doing housework. You didn't fall for the meme that monks were NEETs, right?

If you can't bear a 9-to-5 job 5 days a week, you aren't even close to being fit for a monk.

>> No.12453384

>>12453369
I'm not the guy advocating for a NEET lifestyle. Even if the institution of wage labour were to vanish overnight, toil would still be a fundamental condition of humanity (this is why I've never been able to see eye to eye with post-leftists). I'm only objecting to your inane idea that someone who doesn't want to participate in the standard rat-race is "behind."

But it's strange that you're going in for the whole "you'd have to work regardless" argument as though that guy didn't mention (here >>12452650)
that he'd still have to labour, he'd just be labouring for himself.

>> No.12453386

>>12451609
The answer is:
"DEAL WITH IT".

>> No.12453388

>>12452650
>you realize how meaningless it all is, and how unproductive you're being
Yes, I much prefer getting into bed after a long day working overtime to make Mr. Shecklesteinburg more money. Can't wait to go into work the next morning for another 8 hours and barely get to enjoy my life after work. How meaningful

>> No.12453390

>>12453355
that's why wittfogel called it a form of oriental despotism, and he was quite right

>> No.12453395

>>12453388
why is 4chan such a loser magnet, gotta get off this site

>> No.12453400

>>12452863
Honestly, most CEOs, business execs, large shareholders, etc, should be fucking shot

>> No.12453410

>>12453384
>he'd just be labouring for himself

everyone is "labouring for himself" you stupid fuck, that's why you go to work, to make money for yourself

>> No.12453420

based nietzsche

>Main deficiency of active people. Active men are usually lacking in higher activity-I mean individual activity. They are active as officials, businessmen, scholars, that is, as generic beings, but not as quite particular, single and unique men. In this respect they are lazy.
It is the misfortune of active men that their activity is almost always a bit irrational. For example, one must not inquire of the money-gathering banker what the purpose for his restless activity is: it is irrational. Active people roll like a stone, conforming to the stupidity of mechanics.
Today as always, men fall into two groups: slaves and free men. Whoever does not have two-thirds of his day for himself, is a slave, whatever he may be: a statesman, a businessman, an official, or a scholar

>> No.12453421

>>12453410
I go to work because I don't want to starve or die of exposure, but I don't pretend like the primary purpose my labour isn't to make someone else money.

>> No.12453429

>>12453420
>Whoever does not have two-thirds of his day for himself

well good thing the 8 hour workday became standard then

>> No.12453431

>>12453420
I think the second one is ironic self deprecation, Nietzsche was very much an advocate of irrational activity or, at least, acting without concern for an unconditional rational grounding.

>> No.12453432

>>12453420
how many hours a day did nietzsche spend reading and writing? did he ever consider that for the most successful people their job and what they "want to do" are the same thing?

>> No.12453435

>>12453429
>Was
Private sector has gone off rails since 2008 especially.

>> No.12453448

>>12453421
that means you are working for yourself, so you can survive, if you were the only person on the planet, guess what? you would have to work to survive, if someone else makes money or not what does that matter to you? you are either getting paid what you feel is fair or find another job, we are all free, being unhappy is your choice

>> No.12453459

>>12453435
trump brought the jobs back, unemployment is at the lowest point since the boomers were your age, you're just lazy

>> No.12453468

>>12453432
Wanting to do something does not mean you have it for yourself. Many people enjoy servility.

>> No.12453473

>>12453448
I'm not particularly unhappy. I just don't dress up my job as something other than it is. I'm not working for myself, I'm working for one of the managers that was available to me to work for out of the limited choices available to me, as everyone else is.

The difference however in working to survive when you work entirely for yourself and working to survive when you work to enrich another is that the former offers you greater autonomy and free time.

>> No.12453478

>>12453468
yeah just witness how many grown men on 4chan live at home with their mom like a child

>> No.12453495

>>12453473
>muh enriching

if you worked for a non-profit you'd still have a schedule, hell if you work for yourself you still have a schedule, a doctor can't just be like "fuck it cancel my appointments i'm too busy shitposting in this thread of childish anime and frogs!"

>> No.12453500

Film, but the first half of Sorry to Bother You does a pretty good job. Then in the second act it goes to shit.

>> No.12453501

>>12453459
...
Logic jump, offence and Trump shilling in one post.

>> No.12453504

>>12453478
That children are or ought to be servile is a prejudice mostly exclusive to Americans and third worlders.

>> No.12453516

lol jobs are for cucks, nothing can be as fulfilling as posting on 4chan 12 hours a day! this is what i REALLY want to do with my time! right guise? right?

>> No.12453520

>>12453386
based 14 y/o

>> No.12453527

>>12453429
8 hours of work plus 3 of driving giving you a total of 5 or 7 hours of leisure, yep just what nietzsche had in mind.

>> No.12453528

>>12453495
Yes, life is full of constraints. But there's still a distinct difference between freely working to provide for yourself, and working for a boss to provide for yourself. Unless you think there's no difference in the labour conditions of a neolithic hunter-gatherer and a 19th century factory worker.

>> No.12453538

>>12453520
Are they legally taking the holoday?
Yup.
Any twisted notions about loyalty - commitment or whatever the manager thinks he thinks are his own personall problems.

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12453585

>Why yes, as a matter of fact I am unemployed. How did you know?

>> No.12453602

>>12453344
>Paralegals don't do anything valuable
>t. attorney


AHAHAHAHAHAHAA

>> No.12453613

>Work to much
>Brains turn to mush
>Dont work enough
>Brain turns to mush

huh its almost like there is a reason vacations and such exist

>> No.12453621

>>12453613
>Dont work enough
>Brain turns to mush

listen, I get it, it's hard to structure your time when you're not working, it takes work and I fucked up too, but jesus fucking christ do you really all need shekelberg breathing down your neck to do something productive with your time?

>> No.12453634

>>12453299
Would love to see this if anyone has it. Have been harbouring a suspicion that holidays were once more plentiful for a while now.

>> No.12453646

>>12453602
Computer programs literally do everything you guys used to do. Your days are numbered.

>> No.12453649

>>12453613
this. so much this.
regularly under-sleeping so you can wake up in time to go to your repetitive desk job and let your body atrophy for eight hours, then going home to spend three hours binging on netflix produces a special cocktail of hormones that literally tells your brain to grow. Plus building your life around a regular job gives structure to the day, actually allowing you to accomplish more in those five hours off work than you would with nothing.

>> No.12453653

>>12453646
I'm not even a paralegal you delusional faggot, I'm just laughing at an attorney being the arbiter of what is and is not valuable work.

>> No.12453660

>>12453649
>Plus building your life around a regular job gives structure to the day, actually allowing you to accomplish more in those five hours off work than you would with nothing.

jesus christ do wagecucks really believe this?

>> No.12453701

>>12453133
>they're just using the same tactics the christians used to overthrow rome, it's in nietzsche, luckily communism was defeated before it could sweep the western world, unlike christianity


Aaaaah yes. Rape, slavery and total lack of social cohesion outside the imperial army.
Fucking Christianity man, it ruined everything, Amirite?

>> No.12453881

F*CK CRAPITALISM

>> No.12453894

>>12452650
>the only meaningful things in life are children and a house
Lol. You are possessed by a system of power-relations that use your for their own monetary and political gain.

>> No.12453914

>"late capitalism"
how to spot some faggot pseudo-socialist that grew up in an amazing democratic capitalist society. should have thrown in more buzzwords like straight white male or problematic.

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>>12453182
This is me, lived on (and still do) a religious commune my whole life, don't really believe anymore but I'm so far behind financially that I can't imagine leaving

>> No.12453933

A few centuries ago I might have believed that being a NEET (including nobility who never did any real toil) was immoral or wrong but the "social contract" has clearly been dissolved as it stands today. I am a wagecuck but I feel no ill will towards the NEET. There is nothing promised to him that would be worth the sacrifices required to participate in society. I say, if you are comfortable leeching off of society without contributing, do it. What does a NEET really have to gain, objectively? What value are they missing out on?

>> No.12453936

>>12453914
I was born and raised on venezuela thought

>> No.12453945

>>12453936
You should go back there and live your dream. All you fucks need to be walled in and rest of socialists thrown there together with you. Go, be free from exploitation!

>> No.12453948

>>12453936
No you weren't

>> No.12453958

>>12453701
This but ironically

>> No.12454002

>>12453933
Nothing, they were never going to be one of the gifted few to pull themselves out of the wagecuck mediocrity like the rest of us. What usually effects them most is depravity but that's because there is usually no more need to keep up the appearances. If you are a NEET and can truly master yourself, than it is clearly the best option if you are of middling intelligence and skill.

>> No.12454008

>>12453299
Serfs actually only worked 3-4 days a week so you’d be correct. And on the days they worked they worked less hours than we do

>> No.12454066

>>12454008
I don't really know if that's true, but even if it was, how does that mean that participation in the economy today is a moral necessity? Even if serfs worked just as hard as workers today, they were rewarded for it with a family and an actual community to live with. No excessive electronic stimulation, tax collectors actually had to risk their ass showing up to a fief or a village to collect, your wife couldn't divorce you, take your kids, and then take part of your income in perpituity. Yeah, you might die of a disease or infection, bandits might cut your throat, you might starve. Who cares? People had a common understanding of death. They lived side-by-side with death.

What spiritual benefits has a modern industrial economy granted me? I have basically unlimited creature comforts, but what's the point? Would a life spent in a hospital bed in a permanent opiod daze be the most valuable life possible because it feels better than any other life?

>> No.12454077

>>12454008
yeah and they also starved if the crop got fucked up, and kept giant piles of animal shit next to walls of their home for insulation

>> No.12454078

They could be taking the three week vacation during a busy period at work.. Idk.

>> No.12454089

>>12454066
you could become a christian and embrace a work ethic instead of being a lazy idler

>> No.12454090

>>12452772
So a gym junkie that spends half the day in church? Some life that is, more like blindly abiding to some ideal of "the perfect man" created through memes on 4chan

>> No.12454092

>>12453369
>Sleep 8 hours
>Work 8 hours
>Pray/meditate 8 hours
>Your job rotates on a daily or weekly basis, so you don't get bored doing the same thing
>Not distracted by material attachments
>Your work or community service has purpose, unlike working a wagecuck job for a board room full of big whigs who you will never meet because of all the corporate bureaucracy between you and them
>Have a sense of fulfilment devoting yourself to God or achieving Nirvana
I don't know why you make it all sound like a bad thing. That looks like heaven to me.

>> No.12454098

>>12454092
>our work or community service has purpose

yeah to pay off all the court settlements in molestation cases, enjoy working to pay pedo's bills

>> No.12454100

>>12453933
>>12454002
this, there IS nothing to be gained, if you can keep from degenerating into a slug NEEThood is absolutely ideal, who gives a shit about a career? why contribute to a society that doesn't even contribute itself? why am I getting guilt tripped by those who are clearly only participating in this system for their own gain? if you're already disciplined, keeping your mind and body sharp, who gives a shit?

>> No.12454105

>>12454090
I'm sorry you're only able to think meme soundbites.

>> No.12454110

>>12454100
Have you ever considered the idea of working for the future instead of working to survive day to day?

>> No.12454116

>>12454089
Why? The Lord has no need of my work. For whose benefit is my work done, and what is the benefit which is derived by the work?

>> No.12454117

>>12454078
This is true as well.
Depends on the situation, really.

>> No.12454119

>>12454105
>im going to shape my entire life around the main themes of a few shitty boards on an internet social media site
>le ebin holy triangle amirite

>> No.12454121

>>12454110
What future? That's the question being asked.

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>>12454110
short time horizon is a stronger indicator of poverty than iq, race, or religion, as studied by dr. edward banfield

>> No.12454125

I didnt read it but Don't Stop the Carnival. Maybe?

>> No.12454129

>>12454122
How closely does time horizon correlate with IQ?

>> No.12454131

>>12454110
Better even is to work to improve your present instead some vague ideal future.

>> No.12454132

>>12454110
why can't I do both? what is this future you're talking about? don't you think real work, real survival, would hone body and mind? I'm not gonna sit here and LARP as a primitivist, but I will tell you working day-to-day and self-improvement are simply not mutually exclusive

I don't see it dude, busy busy busy, all this running around, what's it fucking for? Okay, you got a billion dollars, what for? What did you want to do with it? What do you want to see, what do you want to create? What do you want to do on this planet with your limited time? oh, you think that's faggot shit, you just wanna enjoy your money? Cool, fuck you, I don't owe you shit

>> No.12454136

>>12454119
>4chan invented spirituality

mental illness

>> No.12454137

>>12454121
duude lmao

>> No.12454139

>>12454116
9 How long will you lie there, you sluggard? When will you get up from your sleep? 10 A little sleep, a little slumber, a little folding of the hands to rest— 11 and poverty will come on you like a thief and scarcity like an armed man.

>> No.12454145

>>12454132
if you cant think of anything to do with a billion dollars besides buy toys then you are a child

>> No.12454147

>>12454110
Social security is bascially a meme, living costs make genuine saving difficult, the only thing working is any good for anymore is to be a consumerist so you can temporarily forget your working woes.

>> No.12454154

>>12454145
You think I'm asking myself? I'm asking the retards who hoard billions and have nothing to show for it but partyboat nihilism and decrepit souls.

>> No.12454155

>>12454139
Are you really citing a biblical scripture to encourage me to gather material wealth?

>> No.12454161

>>12454147
>living costs make genuine saving difficult

for u

>> No.12454164

>>12454145
Well, Mr. Adult, what would you do with a billion dollars?

>> No.12454169

>>12454155
you claimed god does not encourage you to work productively and that is simply not true

>> No.12454171

>>12454098
I didn't specify whether it's Christian or some Eastern monastic life. Sounds like you have Sky Daddy issues.

>> No.12454175

>>12454164
wow man idk how will i ever come up with something valuable to humanity, i've been watching japanese cartoons for the last decade so my imagination is kind of stunted sorry, drawing a blank

kys

>> No.12454176

embarrassing thread desu

>> No.12454181

>>12454171
>dumb ass white guy who romanticizes buddhism

being a spiritual tourist is expensive, better get your money up, pal

>> No.12454188

>>12454169
It means you shouldn't be lacking in faith. Only an atheist or an evangelical brainlet would take the Bible literally.

>> No.12454191

>>12454169
>you claimed god does not encourage you to work productively
I didn't. I said that God does not have need of anything. What I asked is for whose benefit my work is done, and what specific benefit was derived from work.