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Is Shakespeare enjoyable to read or is it the Citizen Kane of /lit/ (innovative and everything that came after borrowed from it but it's not so great an experience anymore)

>> No.12447511

>>12447500
Hey Apu. He's very enjoyable. Some of his comedies can be a bit banal, with much dialogue in there essentially for the least cultivated mass's appreciation, but his great works are riveting to read. The only difficulty is language - you may have to frequent a dictionary to determine the meaning of many words. But no, Shakespeare is still terrific, incredibly fresh even 400 years later.

>> No.12447516

yes billy is fun desu get the complete billy shakes asap

>> No.12447519

>>12447500

Shakespeare and Citizen Kane are both enjoyable, the fuck kinda jankum you huffin'?

>> No.12447525

no itd deifnetely not a meme. what is a meme though is reading his shit without ACTUAL notes and translations (some books like student editions have it in one book)

only an utter faggot would read shakespear as it is written

>> No.12447526

His plays were originally meant to be performed and watched on stage, so if you don't enjoy reading King John or The Taming of the Shrew, it's probably because your imagination is just not vivid enough.

>> No.12447532

>>12447525
>he needs "translations" to read shakespeare

>> No.12447535

>>12447500
once you get used to the language, I find it quite fun

>> No.12447541

>>12447525

>reading shakespeare

>not reciting it out loud

>> No.12447751

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>> No.12448500
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12448500

>can't follow along when watching production
>can't understand original text
>notes don't provide enough information
>modern translation ruins flow
>alternating between original and translation kills the pacing
>can't remember what the lines mean when read one after the other

>> No.12448549

>>12447500
To this day the only soliloquy I remember just from memory is the one from Hamlet. It's not a meme, Shakespear is damn good.

What a piece of work is a man,
How noble in reason,
How infinite in faculty
In form and moving how express and admirable,
In action how like an angel,
In apprehension how like a god!
The beauty of the world,
The paragon of animals ... and yet,
To me, what is this quintessence of dust?
Man delights not me

>> No.12448632

>>12447511
Not OP, but what are some Comedies I should check out if I am a pleb?

>> No.12448634

>>12447500
Shakespeare not much captures the magic of his sonnets and soliloquies it's super-human

>> No.12448640

>>12447525
>translating something already in english
dickhead

>> No.12448646

>>12448632
they all have something of interest in them
all's well that ends well is pretty weird. man goes to fight in a war he has no personal stake in just to get away from the woman that has pledged her life to him. she follows. and follows, refusing to take the hint.
also, she might be a sorceress?
>>12448549
don't want to be that guy, but man
that speech is not in verse

>> No.12448651

>>12447532
>He dives straight into a work he cannot possibly comprehend fully without supplementary information because language has unsurprisingly changed in the 400 years since it was written

>> No.12448663

>>12448646
I'll check it out, thanks. I discovered that I have Midsummer Night's Dream in my book case for some reason. Might have been left by my ex from several years ago who really liked Shakespeare. I'll probably read that first, then check out Alls Well that Ends Well