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12447315 No.12447315 [Reply] [Original]

Have you read any Woolf?

Why not if you have not?

>> No.12447323

Yes. Her ability to capture tension and depth through subtle mundane action is astonishing yet understated.

>> No.12447324

to the lighthouse and mrs. dalloway. really lovely writing

>> No.12447328

Female authors really do not interest me in the least. I wish I knew why.

>> No.12447338

>>12447324
I really disliked her writing style in To The Lighthouse.

>1 sentence of dialogue
>multiple paragraphs of backstory for the character or train of thought

>> No.12447340

>>12447328
porn has rotted your brain

>> No.12447341

>>12447315
she's a woman

>> No.12447349

>>12447338
>not crying from the juxtaposition between the loving descriptions of the house and cold factuality of the lives of those who lived there in the middle section

>> No.12447356

>>12447328
A Room of One's Own is for you, it's short and it will help you to become a true feminist.

>> No.12447358

>>12447349
I'll give it another try in a few months.

>> No.12447371

>>12447358
>>12447338

I felt the same way you did for a bit. Then I realized that Woolf isn't really interested in story as she is the movements of consciousness itself. Those paragraphs of backstory have their own heave, tug, flow.

>>12447349
honest to god worthy of the word "tearjerker"

>> No.12447380

>>12447340
That is probably true.

>>12447356
But the idea of "becoming a true feminist" is intensely undesirable to me

>> No.12447392

Have read, will continue to read.

>>12447338
Joyce liked it enough to copy.

>>12447341
She is a great author

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>>12447392

>ulysses published 1922
>to the lighthouse published 1927

top kek

>> No.12447420

>>12447380
In any case it's brilliantly written. I got assigned A Room of One's Own for a theory class and it was just really fun when compared with all the much drier shit we had to read up until that point like Kant and Foucault.

It's kind of a small scale allegory full of wonderful domestic examples that work in the grand scheme as well.

One of my favorites is the idea that good food breeds good conversation, which is a metaphor for how a quality education makes for better writing.

>> No.12447437

>>12447420

Highkey this. I wish more people read Woolf's essays. Her novels are good, but imo she truly shines in her essays -- the collections The Death of the Moth and all her Common Readers are probably the best English-language essays since Dr. Johnson. Shit you not. If you haven't read those you're missing out.

They're all public domain. One summer I downloaded all of them on my phone and thumbed through them while I was on break at fucking Zaxby's. Best thirty minutes of my day.

>> No.12447445

>>12447437
I'm the guy you replied to
Agree, her novels are great, but they're not always fun. Woolf's essays are legit fun

>> No.12447450

I've read Mrs Dalloway, OP pls commend me

>> No.12447454

>>12447420
But the "genial Trockenheit" of Kant is lovely. I think I'll stick with male writers, what you're describing isn't doing it for me.

>> No.12447461

>>12447380
Men and women are equal but different. What she explains in A Room of One's Own is that if people, not just men and women, are not granted equal conditions we cannot expect them to thrive in equal measure. It's like trying to grow seed in gravel as opposed to good soil. Not a bra-burning feminazi type of feminism but proper equal but different, and that a writer is a writer no matter their sex.

>> No.12447474

>>12447450
OP here, bravo anon you're doing great! Did you enjoy it?

>> No.12447483

>>12447461
A Room of One's Own also does include a rough outline of the history of women writing in English, starting with middle class women in the 18th century

>> No.12447518

>>12447483
Yes, because she is a generation or two after Austen and the Brontes and Dickinson. That's important in the context, she is post-suffrage and post-victorian and also - for the most part - inter-war, and at her contemporary moment in history the british empire was in decline. Not that any of this necessarily has a profound impact upon her writing, but it is topical. The veteran in mrs dalloway for example, he exists only because of the great war.

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12447544

Loved A Room of One's Own.
Just DLed Oxford's Selected Essays. Though it's only 288 pages there's a lot of titles in there.
Is it missing anything good you think?

>> No.12447641

>>12447474
Thank you, thank you! And yes, I thought it was beautifully written and moving.

I have both Orlando and Jacob's Room, OP! Which would you recommend I read first (if you have read both)?

>> No.12447678

>>12447641
If I were you I would read Jacob's Room and then Orlando. And later, To the Lighthouse and The Waves (those are probably my favourites, especially The Waves).

>>12447544
I'm not sure without thoroughly checking the contents, she has a lot of essays, it could be that they are all in this Oxford edition. I'm really not sure.

>> No.12447702

I read Mrs Dalloway a few weeks ago and then read to the lighthouse right after. I'm so excited for the Waves. To me Woolf seems to be everything I love about Joyce (besides the classic irishness), with none of the headaches. Really made a great start to the year.

>> No.12447724

>>12447328
It's because you're a sexist turd.

Any other spellbinding mysteries I can solve real quick for you?

>> No.12447829

Seeing how poorly she aged scares me. I have bipolar disorder like she did and the effects are far from mental alone, the physical toll becomes really noticeable especially when the substance abuse takes its toll. Life expectancy is over 10 years lower than the average population (even controlling for suicide) so even if she didn't an hero she probably would've died relatively young and miserable regardless.

>> No.12447840

>>12447724
Yes, could tell me while you're at it why some people can't and never will be able to grasp the concept of irony?

>> No.12447860

>>12447840
Insincerity

>> No.12448721

>>12447829
I have a strange feeling that her portrayal of Rhoda in The Waves and that character’s suicide was a cry for help of some sort.