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Anonymous Sun Jan 20 21:47:25 2019 No.12447263 [Reply] [Original]

Where do I start with him?

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>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 22:09:55 2019 No.12447367 File: 62 KB, 724x907, reprobates.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] a jew atheist?

Anonymous Sun Jan 20 22:17:38 2019 No.12447396
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>>12447263
Don't.

Zizek's a charlatan. Spinoza/Deleuze BTFO'd Hegel and Lacan hoodwinked everyone in Paris. Zizek should feel embarrassed to cite those two thinkers, but he STILL hasn't learned shit. His one quasi-contribution, ideology, is literally just the old base/superstructure dichotomy with a side of extra Hegel and Lacan drizzled on top. The man's a crypto-racist and a suave misogynist.

Also, all his "insights" follow the same. fucking. pattern.

>right-wingers think the problem is A, and think we should do B.
>left-wingers think the problem is C, and we should do D.
>the problem is C and we should do nothing.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 22:19:47 2019 No.12447400 Start with the western canon, i.e., the Greeks

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 22:29:49 2019 No.12447446 >>12447396 You can reductionize any thinker that way

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 22:31:44 2019 No.12447452 >>12447446 Except Zizek's honest-to-god rec is "do nothing." Don't act. Think. Like, jesus christ my guy. People are fucking dying and your plan is to make everyone read the Phenomenology of Spirit? Get fucked.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 22:35:16 2019 No.12447460 >>12447452 he means we need new theories to deal with the problems we face today, not that we should let people die. can you strawman any harder?

Anonymous Sun Jan 20 22:36:45 2019 No.12447467

>>12447460

...all zizek does is strawman the world.

I mean. Come on. Haven't you noticed that all he does is figure out what everyone else is saying, then say the opposite, then frantically try and justify it?

The man told everyone to vote for Trump. If you want to defend him after that feel free.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 22:37:08 2019 No.12447470 >>12447263 the butthole

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 23:00:39 2019 No.12447576 >>12447467 >Haven't you noticed that all he does is figure out what everyone else is saying, then say the opposite, then frantically try and justify it? t. has never stepped foot in academia That's literally all "smart people" do

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 23:20:13 2019 No.12447651 >>12447467 Can you provide actual examples rather than vague strawmans and name calling?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 23:51:44 2019 No.12447745 I really just want to know what I need to read from his writings.

Anonymous Mon Jan 21 00:01:41 2019 No.12447785

>>12447467
>The man told everyone to vote for Trump. If you want to defend him after that feel free.
Ew okay originally I could see where you're coming from but if this is your justification it just seems very flimsy. I don't think you understand at all where he's coming from when he says stuff like this. If you don't see the strategic interests a Trump victory serves beyond a bunch of Maga hat-wearing pasty middle schoolers trying to trigger the libtards then you're really no less simple than they are.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 00:03:18 2019 No.12447793 >>12447785 it's not difficult to understand what he means, but that doesn't make it less stupid.

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>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 00:06:18 2019 No.12447811 accelerationism is for assholes

Anonymous Mon Jan 21 00:18:00 2019 No.12447869

>>12447793
It's not stupid, people like you are just in denial and really you're the problem with the Left. Zizek is telling you to just acknowledge the problems you're facing so that you can finally fucking fix them rather than letting them get worse. Instead you're just going to let the Left get more and more neurotic and alienating towards the actual working class leaving them with the Right as the only real alternative to the failing liberal order. You screaming that the idpol fanatics who run Fortune 500 HR departments aren't technically the Left is like when /pol/locks whine that Richard Spencer isn't technically a Nazi. Your shit stinks, nobody is buying it. The longer you try to ignore these people because "they're actually just liberals" the more damage they're going to do to the Left.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 00:24:29 2019 No.12447889 >>12447869 and what is your solution to this supposed problem?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 00:29:45 2019 No.12447910 >>12447396 >suave ha!

Anonymous Mon Jan 21 00:35:15 2019 No.12447932

I can listen or watch Zizek. Everytime I do I imagine I’m at a party trying to pull some poon but there’s a rich, cennected don with alot of connections doing blow while trying to philosohize with me. His erratic movement coupled with his lisp obfuscate his points under saliva and the aftermath of cocaine abuse.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 00:35:57 2019 No.12447935 >>12447263 the trash bin

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 00:41:31 2019 No.12447954 >>12447869 based

Anonymous Mon Jan 21 00:48:07 2019 No.12447981

>>12447889
In most of the West I think there is no solution and the Left is already dead. This is certainly true in America. Once the USSR collapsed the credibility of any real Left movement in the West dropped to 0 and everything got slowly co-opted by liberal progressive-stack type crap. I really think the primary goal of anybody who isn't liberal should be to destroy liberalism first and foremost because it is by far the most powerful ideological force and on it's way to irreversible victory. At best I think this means joining the Right and trying to co-opt them into some kind of Strasserism. A lot of Right parties in the West are starting to starting to pursue policies that Left traditionally supported anyway.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 01:02:24 2019 No.12448041 >>12447981 That's not really new. Fascists are opportunists first and idealists second, and I'm not going to help promote fascism and hope it turns out alright for me and others.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 01:07:43 2019 No.12448064 >>12448041 As if the Left has some sort of sugary history of peace and tolerance? If you're reasoning for not supporting something is because boohoo some people might be excluded then you really don't belong on the Left or the Right, you're a liberal.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 01:07:52 2019 No.12448065 >>12447795 Thanks.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 01:20:32 2019 No.12448104 >>12448064 I'm not white. I'm not going to support white identity politics. thanks for the kek

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 01:36:25 2019 No.12448165 >>12448104 Welp then you were always destined to be a liberal pawn. Your interests will probably never align with the native workers.

Anonymous Mon Jan 21 01:44:06 2019 No.12448187

>>12448165
My interests include seizing the means of production, planned economies, and the abolishment of capital. Bit unclear how not wanting to murder brown people makes one a liberal pawn. You're likely a 19 year old child that has never even attempted to organize with the 'native workers' (and posting nazbol memes on discord really doesn't count btw).

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 01:45:47 2019 No.12448194 >Stalin by the bedside No where, really. Even if this guy put it there as a joke, as a Russian, I can say this idiot is dead to me.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 01:46:46 2019 No.12448195 >>12448194 Your national sense of humor has never been beyond reproach.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 01:47:58 2019 No.12448202 >>12448195 My national sense of humor ends with posting a picture of a guy who killed more Russians than Hitler.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 01:48:49 2019 No.12448205 >>12448202 nice meme

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 01:50:33 2019 No.12448210 I just bought sublime ideology. I’ll let you know OP if I just made a huge mistake.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 01:51:02 2019 No.12448211 >>12448205 You mom's ass is a meme.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 01:51:59 2019 No.12448217 >>12448104 >>12448187 jesus christ

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 01:54:55 2019 No.12448229 >>12448202 Yes. Like I said. Americans laugh all the time about men who killed millions of Americans; Andrew Jackson, Christopher Columbus, and so on.

Anonymous Mon Jan 21 02:04:16 2019 No.12448256

>>12448187
I've met plenty of people like you and you're all the same. You sit their talking about muh Leftism when all you do is fight for your racial/ethnic interests which almost always are in opposition to the economic interests of native workers. I bet you've been to plenty of "socialist" meetings where you complain about the evil orange cheetoh kicking muh special trans women out of the military and oh wait you want to say something? Sorry you're a white guy you're at the bottom of the progressive stack literally everyone will get the speaking stick before you! I don't know if you're just being disingenuous about the whole thing or if you genuinely think that you're fighting liberalism. I'd imagine the latter just based on your posts about Zizek's opinion of Trump and the state of the Left in general. Keep doing what you're doing, I'm sure you'll escape what's being talked about here eventually.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 02:12:41 2019 No.12448280 >>12448256 no to all the above

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 03:03:50 2019 No.12448373 >>12447396 What an absolutely awful post Even Zizek has admitted his thinking is pseudo-deleuzian, but to call him a crypto-racist is the most idiotic thing I’ve heard all week.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 03:36:07 2019 No.12448458 >>12448194 you're not russian

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 03:44:11 2019 No.12448489 File: 21 KB, 220x328, 220px-Roger_Scruton_by_Pete_Helme.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Start with the Scruton. https://www.city-journal.org/html/clown-prince-revolution-14632.html

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 04:24:38 2019 No.12448600 >>12447263 sublime object of ideology or plague of fantasies

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 04:27:10 2019 No.12448612 >>12447396 >xe doesn't even know that zizek uses ideology in the althusserian sense spotted the (neo)liberal pseud

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 04:41:10 2019 No.12448650 >>12447263 In the trash bin

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 06:44:30 2019 No.12448891 >>12447267 fpbp

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 07:02:04 2019 No.12448921 >>12447396 >The man's a crypto-racist and a suave misogynist. wtf I love zizek now

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