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recommend me a book /lit/

>> No.12427839

>>12427828
you likea de lesbos

>> No.12427850

not a book but still obligatory
http://www.lynchnet.com/lh/lhpremiere.html

>> No.12427851

>>12427839
No,I liked the film that much even if we ignore the sex part

>> No.12427859

>>12427828
1984

>> No.12427867

Gummo for having a weird trip in the redneckdom. Korin, the director, also made Spring Breakers.

>> No.12427868

>>12427828
If you love Mulholland Drive you clearly don’t give a shit about narrative, so pretty much any stream of consciousness novel. Naked Lunch, Froth on the Daydream, etc.

>> No.12427875

>>12427867
NIGGAS IFFY UH
BLICKY GOT THE STIFFEE UH

>> No.12427894

>>12427868
>If you love Mulholland Drive you clearly don’t give a shit about narrative
how?

>> No.12427898

>>12427875
last evening i was reading Bataille while i was listening to 69 and your mother was sucking my cock deeply till the balls. And don't say the N word fucking son of a n-word cucksucker

>> No.12427902

>>12427894
not him but does any Lynch film have a narrative?

>> No.12427906

>>12427894
He didn't mean that as a bad thing

>> No.12427911

>>12427898
>69
6ix9ine, you illiterate

>> No.12427924

>>12427911
First songs was just 69 than he changed. Stupid donkey

>> No.12427927

>>12427902
Yes,its not straight forward as other films but its there

>> No.12428062

Honestly Lynch and Kubrick are pretty bad directors. Once you explore the medium a bit more you will start to realize it.

>> No.12428090
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12428090

My favourite film is the seventh continent. Recommend me a book.

>> No.12428138

>>12427868
>no narrative
It’s scrambled, but it makes perfect sense once you’ve pieced it back together. His films don’t “mean” anything in the literal sense, but they make some pretty cool speculations about what actually qualifies as the cinematic reality the audience is watching. The newest season of Twin Peaks takes the same idea and runs with it to the absurd. I still have a soft spot for him, just for having enough status and relevance to be able to do whatever surrealist-Kubrick-10-minutes-inside-a-nuclear-explosion shit he wants on network television

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>>12428138
>surrealist
>Kubrick
yikes

>> No.12428182

>>12428062
Tarkovsky, Godard, Bergman, the list goes on...

>> No.12428194

>>12428155
We can argue all day about the surrealism of his work but if that scene and the accompanying Penderecki piece wasn’t a homage to Kubrick then I maybe I am the one who’s retarded.

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12428211

>>12428182
>Tarkovsky, Godard, Bergman
still pretty entry level though senpai

>> No.12428243

>>12427924
first songs were under tekashi which was taken from pynchons GR

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>>12428243
big if true

>> No.12428611

>>12428062
>Kubrick
>bad
Who's better than Kubrick?

>> No.12428617

>>12427868
I can’t get into Naked Lunch. I get really confused when I read it. Like more confused then when I read Gravity’s Rainbow (Which I enjoyed).

>> No.12428619

>>12428062
Yeah sure, your obscure pretentious faggots nobody ever heard of are far superior!

>> No.12428637

>>12428619
>I like Slaughterhouse-Five and Animal Farm, but my favorite book is totally 1984
>Oh, I read real literature
>Yeah sure, your obscure pretentious faggots nobody ever heard of are far superior!

>> No.12428649

>>12428637
Oh god, just kill yourself already. Literally no one in this planet likes you.

>> No.12428662

>>12428649
I never thought I'd say this, but I miss Griffithfag

>> No.12428737

>>12428637
>implying those books are the equivalent of Kubrick
>implying movies have book equivalents somehow
Pseud. Never gonna make it.

>> No.12428749

>>12427902
Yeah, some are more straightforward than others e.g. Blue Velvet.

>> No.12428761

>>12428737
u can see what kind of level kubrick haters are operating at, low iq

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12428768

>>12428737
if this was /film/ I would tell you to go back to /r/movies

>> No.12428777

>>12428637
So Dostoevsky, Joyce, Dickens and Shakespeare, I take, aren't real literature, too - since too many people know them.

>> No.12428799

>>12428611

No one

>> No.12428803

>>12428768
oh this shit is the kind of shit u go in for, campy gay films? yeah sorry that's not toping kubrick, you could have at least said one of those shitty old silent films that try to ape opera that they tell you are good in that film class the basketball team takes to avoid doing real work, kys

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>>12428777
>thinking it has anything to do with popularity
you are literally too culturally sheltered to know how popular figures like Tarkovsky and Bergman are. I hope you have a bit of sympathy for people who defend YA from now on lmao

>> No.12428817

>>12428812
what's your favorite tarkovsky or bergman film? why?

>> No.12428833

>>12428812
ohhh wait i see your fucking angle u little shit, you just don't like anglo films, yeah u can kys

>> No.12428836

>>12428812
Tarkovsky is a hack. If you want a good Russian director watch Aleksey German. You are a pretentious faggot. Kubrick is a good director, and 1984 is a good book, and it has everything to do with popularity, - or rather what you perceive as popularity, as you, being a fag you are, will do anything to distance yourself, so smart and enlightened, from those damn Vonnegut-reading normies. Kill yourself.

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12428839

>>12428803
do you want to talk silent films? did you prefer Un Chien Andalou or Dwaj ludzie z szafą?

>> No.12428849

>>12428817
Tarkovsky is Stalker
Bergman is probably Mirror
don't watch late Tarkovsky, he goes up his own ass during his Swedish period
>>12428836
I prefer Eisenstein myself, I only said Tarkovsky was popular

>> No.12428867

>>12428849
I had no doubt you would namedrop Eisenstein, you arse-sniffer - Tarkovsky is not obscure enough after all, gotta woo those normies with your knowledge of obscure early Soviet films.
Oh, did you know about that Potemkin Stairs scene, oh yes, so powerful. Did you know they referenced it in Brazil? WOAH!

>> No.12428883

>>12428867
>Eisenstein
>obscure
usually /lit/ is really good with films, this is a disappointing thread

>> No.12428999 [DELETED] 

>>12428849
mirror is by tarkovsky u utter pleb, and i axed WHY do u like them? because your film professor said they were good? or because you read about it on some dumb film blog filled with homos? you have these big opinions on films but don't even know which of your favorite directors did which film, moreover, last time some fagger was dissing kubrick he hadn't seen even seen paths of glory, what did u watch full metal jacket and the clockwork orange? kys man, you probably really binge watch comic movies on netflix, u complete pseud, please return to whatever dumb tv forum u came from

>> No.12429044

>>12428839
>Un chien andalou
>silent

>> No.12429058

>>12428768
>doesn't think Barry Lyndon and Clockwork Orange are two of the best films of the 70s
kys already just do it

>> No.12429065

Care to explain why Lynch is bad?

>> No.12429071

>>12428849
> I don't like your popular filmmakers, I like my popular filmmakers
Consider suicide.

>> No.12429072

>>12429065
dfw loves lynch u should see him gushing about blue velvet in that charlie rose interview, dfw is a fucking pseud but about lynch he's not wrong

>> No.12429081

>>12429072
i like lynch, too. at least he's honest enough to admit that he sometimes just transfers his dreams into film sequences and that not everything needs to make sense to the viewer.

>> No.12429084

>>12429065
Pointless symbolism that means nothing to the viewer. Typically named by people who don't watch film but heard he was good so they stop watching other directors. Mulholland Drive was a cheap knock off of Persona

>> No.12429093

>>12427902
All of them have a narrative dum dum

>> No.12429127

Wild At Heart by Barry Gifford

>> No.12429152

>>12429127
More like Night People.

>> No.12429263

>>12427828
Lost Highway was the better Lynch movie.

>> No.12429285

>>12429263
It was worse than MD in every way.

>> No.12429291

>>12429263
This, but Blue Velvet is his only great movie.

>> No.12429292

>>12429285
Nah. MD was a retread and the aesthetic is vastly inferior.

>> No.12429305

>>12427828
Bruce Wagner - I'm Losing You

>> No.12429307

>>12429292
>the aesthetic is vastly inferior.
LH literally looks like a TV movie.

>> No.12429316

>>12429307
I don't disagree, and yet I maintain my previous statement.

>> No.12429324

>>12429316
Based. I respect that, anon.

>> No.12429326

>>12429263
One of the ways MD is superior is because it actually all makes sense once you dissect it a little. LH is mostly nonsense

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>>12429326
>LH is mostly nonsense
https://italkyoubored.wordpress.com/2013/01/30/david-lynchs-lost-highway-who-is-dick-laurent/

>> No.12429350

>>12429084
While I agree with you that Lynch is the dumb mans art movie hero you’re also unbearably up your own ass. There’s nothing wrong with enjoying Lynch and the only reason you’re would shit on his viewers so hard is to try and alleviate your own inferiority complex. It’s so obvious. I mean fuck, you always complain about capitalism yet can’t understans a lot of people have jobs with long hours and children and don’t have time to cultivate their tastes in art. It’s so classist really and a broader problem of people on The Left ( which I consider myself a part of ) so maybe that’s why nobody gives a fuck about what you think you piece of shit. Get cancer.

>> No.12429362

>>12429350
Not going to read that wall of text. You are just insecure someone called out your pseud director

>> No.12429371

>>12427868
Based retardposter

>> No.12429377

>>12429362
I wasn’t even the original poster numb nuts. Thank you for hilariously proving my point hahahha

>> No.12429381

>>12429362
What’s it like to be a living meme?

>> No.12429386

>>12429344
I want to rewatch this shit. I was completely baffled by it when I first watched like 5 years ago. I only own th DVD version, though.

>> No.12429402

>>12429362
ridiculously arrogant. you cant read a small paragraph in a literature board? lol that guy said nothing wrong, kys faggot.

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>>12429084
>He doesn't get Lynch
Fine, but don't sling your shallow judgements
>Persona
As if the market is clogged with this sort of film. MD was more enjoyable to watch, frankly.

>>12429350
>I mean fuck, you always complain about capitalism
Oh no. Not me.

>> No.12429428

>>12429404
You sure about that? I’ve only ever seen you criticize America and it’s hegemony specifically it’s use of capitalism and even belive I saw you say you’re a type of Anarchist unless you aren’t the real Butterfly or if the whole butterfly meme has actually just gone into complete meta overdrive.

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>>12429428
I am the read one, and I am an anarchist. The one you were talking to is a shithead. He's in a bunch of threads atm.
I don't pick on the working class for "pleb" tastes. I have a history of liking some of that kind of junk myself.

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>>12427828
The Decameron
Idk why, I am drunk and like to post Lynch

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12429469

>>12429460
>I am the REAL one,
frgfgrgfgrmgrmg

>> No.12429470

>>12427898
Nigger

>> No.12429485

>>12428611
Me

>> No.12429502

>>12428611
Nobody, but if someone wanted to make the case, they would be making for either John Ford, Fritz Lang, Ingmar Bergman, or David Lean

>> No.12429503

>>12429460
We disagree about a lot but I respect that. Would you hang out with someone that’s poltically really different than you as long as you got along? I’d drink a beer with you and talk about Wes Anderson’s big hipster dick

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>>12429503
Theoretically I'd hang out with you, yeah. Just as long as we're not actually talking about dick.

The rightwingers I know have heard some of what I stand for, and are a bit confused (of course they are, they like Trump) it's the liberals who can't tell how awful Obama and HRC are that get kind of cold and don't wanna talk about it.

More pleb tastes pictured.

>> No.12430042

The Unconsoled

>> No.12430052

>>12427828
Ice by Anna Kavan

>> No.12430084

>>12429622
Yeah liberals have cultural hegemony, which is really bad. Most people voting for Trump are literally just mad and honestly just need to be listened to. I think they’re tired of being treated like shit even if it’s simply tongue and cheek from most people. You might be able to describe me as philosophically left but in all praxis The Left more broadly is a lot more worrisome than anything on The Right except for maybe some bubbling neo-nazism. As if both parties are interested in anything else except
Getting rich and exploiting the working class.

You know what movie kicks ass? Videodrome

>> No.12430456

>>12427828
No.

>> No.12430556

>>12427828
>Mulholland Dr
Any postmodern novel. Something with pastiches, non linear structure, unreliable narrator etc.
Gravity’s Rainbow, House of Leaves, The Island of the Day Before

>> No.12430729 [DELETED] 

>>12427828
Wings of Desire

>> No.12430744 [DELETED] 

>>12430729
Oh and Eternity and a Day, that's another favorite
give a little credit to non-europe and non-hollywood, I recommend "Why Has Bodhi-Dharma Left for the East?". It is /lit/. well oldboy is great tho

>> No.12430884

>>12428836
Nice, but German said that just a single scene from Tarkovsky or Fellini is enough to put himself in check. Given that he didn't have a high opinion of contemporary film makers, that brings down all of them together.

>> No.12431395

>>12428849
>bergman
>mirror

>> No.12431544

>>12430884
A lot of these directors' top films are usually very close to imdb top 250, rarely they seem original. It's because they grew up seeing these films at the theater when they were kids and that would leave much bigger of an impact on you that watching a movie on your laptop in 2019. German isn't worse than Tarkovsky or Fellini imo, I'm sure his opinions are based on what really stuck with him and made him want to make films in the first place.

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12431563

Rec me something like Fanny and Alexander. Is Buddenbrooks close?

>> No.12431575

>>12431395
He probably meant Through a Glass Darkly. Its original swedish title translates literally to "As In A Mirror".

>> No.12431613

>>12431563
Read the synopsis for the film, and no.
Buddenbrooks makes me think more of that period drama by Scorcese (with Winona, Michelle Pfeiffer and the guy from Lincoln) and Sunshine (1999), but not resembling either.

>> No.12431637

>>12431563
Is Fanny and Alexander an overlong non-story about rich people becoming less rich and stoically accepting their garbage lives? If so, then yes.

>> No.12431647

>>12427828
Not even peak Lynch

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12431676

My favorite. What do you guys recommend?

>> No.12431691

>>12431637
It's more of a long-but-justifiably-so, life-affirming story about a rich family. I figure there MIGHT have been some overlap.

>> No.12431710

>>12431691
>life-affirming
Yeah, that's nothing like Buddenbrooks.

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12432570

Mulholland Drive confirms my intuition that Lynch is a miserable jester. It's almost devoid of Lynchian "humor" yet it is the exemplary Lynchian piece. It's the only one immune to accusations of absurdism or bad faith by simply having a coherent plot which, curiously to morons, only serves to increase its complexity or "surrealism", making it MORE Lynchian than his lesser pieces. This makes its few moments of "humor" all the more embarrassing and reveal Lynch as a tragic self-censoring neurotic.

>> No.12432877

>>12429263
so so wrong

>> No.12432878

>>12431676
Buckaroo Banzai

>>12430084
I’ve seen enough Cronenburg. Dot care for horror films much

>> No.12433279

>>12432570
In addendum to your quite apt post,
Mulholland Drive is Lynch's best work [by a margin] and many midwits miss the point. It is also one of those quintessential additions to both morons and patricians being able to enjoy the film, the former due to his spectacular use of suspense and wackiness and the latter due to his ability to create unconscious yet completely self-aware film-making.
It is the one film which you get a distinct feeling that the dream Lynch is inhabiting in the narrative is through one of pain and misfortune.
If Lynch in Lost Highway is announcing that we are strangers to ourselves and that their women are whores preceding their love, he sets a dangerous fuse in Mulholland, claiming that dreams although neccessary to fuel reality, are also our deaths. To quote Wilde roughly "To live, we must kill what we love".
You can tell when someone can't understand surrealist films when they take everything at face value. Betty must need Hollywood to live, but conversely Hollywood also eats her alive.