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12426779 No.12426779 [Reply] [Original]

Are jokes about philosophy impossible to do well? I ruined a date with a girl by trying to make one

>Virgin 27yo
>Only virgin because of the stoic school of mind I am in, as Marcus Aurelius said in his meditations 'I did not make proof of my virility before the proper season' something i want to do
>girl agrees to come over
>really like her and want the date to go well
>she likes philosophy as well
>as a joke write a bunch of quotes in a notepad
>idea is that the quotes start genuine and become silly and aggressive
>so the first 30 or so are just quotes from Meditations
>for example 'Remember how long thou hast been putting off these things, and how often thou hast received an opportunity from the gods, and yet dost not use it' and other stuff
>as the pad goes on i started to insert Deep Ecology quotes by people like Ted Kazcynski and Pentti Linkola
>the final few quotes in the book are mishmashes of deep ecology quotes and quotes from an article by David Benatar where he implies rape isn't that bad when sex is devalued
>so for example: 'The Industrial Revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for private sex between an adult and a willing child'
>give it to her to read
>encourage her to go all the way to the end
>she starts to go pale
>gets up and says she has to go

Is this my fault or are these jokes just impossible?

>> No.12426805
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12426805

>>12426779
But what is it, Anon, that you call a 'joke'?

>> No.12426820

That must be one of the most striking examples of autism I've ever read, and I dont typically throw that word out as a meme. She obviously thought this was a collection on quotes you like and didnt follow the "joke," which isn't funny anyway. Jokes are supposed to be exemplary of wit and done in the spur of a moment, not meticulously planned in advance of a first date. You tried way too hard

>> No.12426875

>>12426805
A little absurd story that makes me laugh, my good Socrates.

>> No.12426881

As a rule of thumb I never joke about pedophilia on the first date.

>> No.12426888

>>12426820
I don't think it's a real story, but either way I disagree that jokes need to be spontaneous to be funny. There's plenty of carefully thought humour

>> No.12426897

>>12426779
>quotes from an article by David Benatar where he implies rape isn't that bad when sex is devalued
Yo, my man said what?!

>> No.12426908

>>12426875
No composer of comedy, iambic or lyric verse shall be permitted to hold any citizen up to laughter, by word or gesture, with passion or otherwise.

>> No.12426911

Here’s one:
>taps microphone to make sure it’s on
>stares out into audience
ANALYTIC PHILOSOPHY!
I-Is this thing on?

>> No.12426920

>>12426779
>tfw no gf who likes Evola, Linkola, Benatar and Nechayev

>> No.12426939
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12426939

>tfw my gf is illiterate
Im God to her

>> No.12427025

>>12426920
she has never heard of Linkola, which may have been my error

>> No.12427129

>>12426881
the joke wasn't about it though

>> No.12427200

>>12426779
Women dont like jokes about rape when they are in a vulnerable position with a stranger

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12427215

it's one of those posts again

>> No.12427734

>>12426875
/all threads ever

>> No.12427735

>>12426779
This has to be fake, but on the off-chance that it isn't I'll advise you not to make pedophilia jokes on dates unless you know in advance that she or he enjoys them. And I understand that the point of the joke was the descent into ridiculousness, but that doesn't necessarily read. Take Kafka, for example. A lot of his novels are hilarious, but they don't necessarily register that way to everyone. Or for a film example, you could take somebody like David Lynch. Eraserhead can be pretty funny if you abstract yourself into a position where you can appreciate the absurdity of the action, but without that abstraction, it's essentially psychological horror.

Context counts for quite a lot in comedy, and moods/states of mind are a context. It's kinda like saying the N word. Right context and moods and it's automatically funny to break the taboo (a la Louis CK and others). Disrespect that context and you're a bad person. Making jokes like that or rape or pedophilia requires a lot of awareness both of yourself and of your audience.

Although I'd encourage you to think about what kind of reaction you expected. Some people just like to provoke, which could be what you were attempting without realizing.

>> No.12427770

>>12426888
Sure, I guess I was only talking about the kind of jokes you tell on a first date.