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>tfw I finally got poetry

>> No.12422352
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12422352

Welcome, friend. Read Endymion!

>> No.12423737
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I don't understand poetry it makes me hurt internally.

>> No.12425270

>>12422331
There's absolutely nothing even remotely like it..
Good luck at the end of Lonely Street, however. Articulating the getting of poetry defies language.

>> No.12425272

>>12422331
Congratulations now you're gay

>> No.12425282

The only two things I ever feel after reading a poem are either, "This is nonsense," or "This is pointless."

>> No.12425286

>>12422331
Mind giving me a beginner's guide, anon?

>> No.12425618

>>12425282
Imagine how you'll feel when dying!

>> No.12425657

>>12425282
The point of poetry is to whittle down the same feelings you feel from reading long form literature into a short form.
Its particularly poignant to read something like the wasteland when you are feeling depressed or philosophical about existence.
I WILL SHOW YOU FEAR IN A HANDFUL OF DUST.

Another thing is you can read poems on the go. Just 1 a day, and think about it. Read it at lunch during your job.

>> No.12425665

>>12425618
Relieved and happy?

>> No.12425678

>>12422331
how?

>> No.12425710

>>12422331
I don't know if other anons will relate but for me 'getting' poetry was really unlearning one central preconceived notion I had.
One of the most fucking obvious things that I didn't get at first is that the meaning of the poem comes secondary. That's right, the whole 'point' of the poem is completely secondary to the primary drive of poetry: to put words together that sound good. I like free and blank verse poems, but I feel it misdirects people. They think that the meter was relaxed because the meaning of the poem is most important, but actually free and blank verse is no different from any other poem. This is why reading poems aloud is not a meme, it is reminding you while you read that the sounds are what matter, the clicks and hisses coming out of your dirty little mouth.

Like I said, probably sounds dumb to people who get poetry, but fuck...

>> No.12425717

>>12425657
>the wasteland
I just attempted to read it and couldn't get past the first stanza. I just feel an overwhelming sensation of, "Why am I bothering with this shit?" to the point that my interest evaporates into an active desire to stop reading. I have a hard time wording it exactly, though. But it's something like that. It turns to sludge in my mind and I star to hate it. This happens with all poetry.

>> No.12425734

>>12425717
Well you're on 4chan buddy. What ARE you bothering with?

>> No.12425749

>>12425710
This is wrong, and the fact that people believe this is why literature is dead.

>> No.12425940

>>12425749
Care to elaborate friend?

>> No.12425980

>>12425710
The mechanics of the poem produce the meaning. Even poems that exist purely for sound, if there are such poems, are suggesting something in that choice.

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I find that some people prefer subtractive art and others lean towards additive art. Poetry leans towards being subtractive (it certainly can be additive ie The Cantos, but in my opinion it generally fails) and that puts off a lot of people. The same people who don't "get" abstract art and probably like art deco and think tasteful minimalism is a red bike against a blue wall.

>> No.12426099

>>12425980
That is a pretty one-sided view of poetry, no?