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12416983 No.12416983 [Reply] [Original]

Is mathematical platonism a fiction?

>> No.12416993

No it's more real than you or I.

>> No.12417071

Probably.

Can't discuss it without a ban
>>/lit/thread/S4896805

>> No.12417114

Mathematics reveals the truth of things. Plato knew it, and any sufficiently great mathematician knows it, too.

>> No.12417127

>>12416983
Can you phrase your question more seriously and perhaps reference whatever has been motivating your inquiry?

>>12417071
That post was completely off topic and kind of embarassing. Why the fuck do people want to talk about string theory without learning Newtons Laws, or 2 dimensional calculus, or algebra or relativity etc. ? Drives me up the wall.

>> No.12417132

Who is this semen demon?

>> No.12417155

fuck off to pol

it's your containment board, cunt

>> No.12417195

>>12416983
Quine Putnam indispensability thesis

>> No.12417199

>>12417195
Hahaha fuck u pseud

>> No.12417252

>>12417199
?????

>> No.12417274
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>>12417127
>That post was completely off topic
>We NEVER talk about Plato on /lit/
Whats embarrassing is your unwillingness to talk about it
Cool looking book unrelated
Or is it?

>> No.12417300

>>12417274
I know nothing about Plotinus and have only a vague idea about the theory of forms. I dont like to talk about what I dont know on account of that's a fools game. I'm pretty mathematically literate though.

>>12417252
Usually people write three paragraphs filled with interesting information about the subject at hand when you call them a pseud, so as to defend their chops to you.

>> No.12417340

>>12417300
What's there to explain it's an extremely straightforward argument. If science is true then we are ontologically committed to whatever they quantify over them
Science quantifies over numbers
Therefore numbers exist and platonism is true

>> No.12417371

>>12417340
I like the outline, I dont care enough to read the content. How accessible/long is it anyhow? I'm suspicious such a thing could ever be definitively proven one way or another. It is extremely interesting that math is the "queen of the sciences", however.

Theres a great quote from Hannah Arendt of all people about the irony of that fact

"It was mathematics, the non-empirical science par excellence, wherein the mind appears to play only with itself, that turned out to be the science of sciences, delivering the key to those laws of nature and the universe that are concealed by appearances."

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>>12417340
>tfw Plato is both the first and the final boss of philosophy

But then, anyone who's read enough Plato already knew that.

>> No.12417431

>>12417372
Hes so deceptively simple. I didnt get much from Apology or Crito but Phaedo is some pretty intense philosophy. Shit got real hard real quick.

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>>12417431
Here is the one, true way to work through Western philosophy.

First, read Homer.
Then, read Plato.
Then, read the entire rest of the Western Canon, or at least the highlight points.
Then, when you're done, read Homer again.
Then read Plato again.

And then you're done.

>> No.12417466

>>12417444
You're never done amigo

>> No.12417505

>>12417274
But strong theory anon is retarded and was using math and physics terminology in completely misleading and incorrect context.