/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.12405271]

What does /lit/ think of pic related?

[Anonymous No.12405274]

>>12405271
shitty bait, delete your thread before it gets awkward

[Anonymous No.12405279]

>>12405274
OP here.

I am serious, I could not escape her during uni and I can not find any negative critiques of her online (which is saying something) and I would like to see You what You guys got on her raw.

[Anonymous No.12405290]

[Anonymous No.12405297]

>>12405271

Superlatives aside, she deserves to be recognized and remembered. The African-American experience is pretty unique.

All this talk of best this and most important that is to be avoided. It misses the point.

[Anonymous No.12405302]

>>12405297
>>12405297
OP here.

It is my mistake that I chose exactly this pic. I am not interested in /lit/'s opinion on why TIME chose her as "The Great American Novelist".

TO CLARIFY: What does /lit/ think of her as a writer/novelist?

[Anonymous No.12405307]

>>12405271
who?

[Anonymous No.12405312]

>>12405307
Toni Morrison.

[Anonymous No.12405321]

Resolutely second-rate. Not worthy of a Nobel but competent nonetheless. First 2 novels are pure Faulkner worship though.

t. not an american

[Anonymous No.12405771]

>>12405271
A non-entity. Means absolutely nothing to me.

[Anonymous No.12405811]

>>12405312
never heard of him

[Anonymous No.12405851]

>>12405312
Isn't that a dude's name?

[Anonymous No.12405913]

>a nigger with inferiority complex that´s pushed by the media


no thanks

[Anonymous No.12405971]

Has she written anything good other than Beloved?

[Anonymous No.12406015]

>>12405271
She's a compelling and evocative novelist writing pretty unique stories in neo-Faulknerian styles and one of the only modern writers who can bridge the literary-fiction vs popular book gap. (And she's much better than her peers there, writers like Franzen.) Anyone interested in lit should read her and judge her themselves

>>12405971
A Mercy
Song of Solomon

Imo, A Mercy > Beloved > SoS, altho I know that's not a popular ranking style.

[Anonymous No.12406199]

>>12405271
Another nigger shitty writer pushed by the media.
What the media fail to understand in his efforts to make this nigger writers relevant is that the negro cannot write anything meaningful because the negro doesn't have the introspective complexity that the white man can achieve, and for that the negro work ultimately becomes the spotting of some ideological talking point that a non negro man created

[Anonymous No.12406298]

>>12405271
Will be completely forgotten in time, a propaganda piece propped up by the left. Also looks like a silver-back.

[Anonymous No.12406324]

>>12405271
best living american writer

[Anonymous No.12406366]

>>12406324
Hardly.

[Anonymous No.12406462]

>>12405312
Quick rundown?

[Anonymous No.12406499]

what is her best work? I guess I have to try her eventually, but all her titles and covers make them look like romance trash which always turns me off in the book store.

[Anonymous No.12406577]

I have literally never read a single book written by a black """"""""""""person""""""""""

[Anonymous No.12406594]

>>12406577
have you read the bible?

[Anonymous No.12406609]

>>12406324
When was the last time she wrote anything good?

[Anonymous No.12406647]

>>12405271
I only read a short novella byer her, it was better than expected. I don't expect much from women in general, and even less if they got a Nobel prize, and even less again, obviously, if a writer is black (because there's always a chance that a 'minority' writer doesn't deserve the recognition that he gets).
Anyway, I remember that my parents used to read her a lot a some time, so I gave it a try and it's decent. I'll certainly read some more. Thanks >>12406015 for the recs.

Generally speaking, I think the Nobel draws attention who people who are not great writers, and the well-read public audience can react with resentment. It's a shame indeed. Toni Morrison is not worse than 50% Nobel prize winners.

[Anonymous No.12406651]

>>12406577
Based

[Anonymous No.12406888]

her work hasn't aged well. it's pretty clear that most of her accolades came out of a desire for her to be a Great Epochal Novelist rather than her actually being one. in retrospect she was fair-middling to good, but nothing extraordinary

[Anonymous No.12406943]

>>12406199
Basic bait

[Anonymous No.12407043]

>>12405271
>>12405312
mfw i thought that was maya angelou

[Anonymous No.12407156]

>>12405271
She's not a bad author by any means and deserves recognition for not only presenting a somewhat unique experience, but doing it in a way that's well-written. By far the greatest African-American writer right now, maybe ever.

But on the other hand
>The Great American Novelist

>Not Pynchon
>Not DeLillo
>Not McCarthy
>Not Roth (pbuh)

[Anonymous No.12407216]

>>12407156
Invisible Man was better than anything she’s done imo

[Anonymous No.12407387]

>>12406577
Stuff like Sounder, Roll of Thunder, etc is good for young adults. After that you need to ascend. Raisin in the Sun ain't that bad.

[Anonymous No.12407521]

blackity blackity black professional affirmative action racial huckster with a 100 IQ, making her a genius among blacks. An imbecile. No chance in hell she isn't at least 1/8 white.

"I want to see a white man convicted for raping a black woman."
Imagine being stupid enough to say this and think you sound smart.
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2015/apr/20/toni-morrison-race-relations-america-criminal-justice-system

"Too much tail. All that jewelry weighs it down. Like vanity. Can't nobody fly with all that shit. Wanna fly, you got to give up the shit that weighs you down."
Next time you don't get published, remember this ape won the Nobel for flinging feces.

[Anonymous No.12407531]

>>12405297
>The African-American experience is pretty unique
How is it unique?

[Anonymous No.12407533]

>Black
X
>Woman
X
>American
X


STTTTTIIIRRRRIIIIIIKEEEE YOUR OUTTTA HEEEEAAAA

[Anonymous No.12407610]

>>12407531
try being enslaved for 200 years and indentured for another 50

[Anonymous No.12407693]

>>12407610
What percentage of American blacks are fully descended from slaves? I bet you don't know! Remember how Barack became the first black president despite being 50% white and having EXACTLY zero American black ancestry?

Slavery is awesome, but totally irrelevant to all living American blacks, regardless whether they had slave ancestors or not, in the vast majority of cases they don't even know.

My people were enslaved by the British for twice as long, where's my gibs?

[Anonymous No.12407720]

>>12407693
Based. Some of my ancestors were driven out of Sout Africa by the uppity blacks rioting, looting, and torching. Is my family not the real victim here?

[Anonymous No.12407743]

>>12407610
My people were enslaved by the french, spanish, austrians, dutch and to this day we don't have self-determination because of angloids and cryptofrench.

Who wins in the opression olympics? Who cares?

[Anonymous No.12407812]

Like someone said, she bridges the gap between Faulkner's stylized chorus and more general narratives. Her use of the metaphor and free indirect are masterful, though.

Here's what to read from her:
The Bluest Eye
Song of Solomon
Beloved
Jazz
Paradise
A Mercy

Paradise reads like american GGM too.

[Anonymous No.12407839]

>>12405271
Who?

[Anonymous No.12407906]

>>12405271
So you wanted to hear criticism on her based on race? You got that. In the real world, in terms of who will remain in the canon and will still be respected and still studied in centuries to come? She’s there and deserves it.

[Anonymous No.12407928]

>>12407906
Cont. essentially the writer that Maya Angelou wanted to be and got very close to being. Same upbringing, same ideas, compelling as well but the writing is Nobel prize winning for a good reason.

[Anonymous No.12407992]

>>12407216
Even Song of Solomon?

[Anonymous No.12409437]

>>12407743
Yeah but not in America, tard boy