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[Anonymous No.12381117]

>welcome to philosophy 101 ^-^
>so who's your favorite philosopher anon?

[Anonymous No.12381123]

>>12381117
Unironically Max Stirner

[Anonymous No.12381132]

>>12381117
Whoever wrote the bible

[Anonymous No.12381134]

>>12381117
marx

[Anonymous No.12381136]

Bлaдимиp Ильич Ульянoв

[Anonymous No.12381137]

>>12381117
Aleksandr Dugin. You've probably never heard of him though

[Anonymous No.12381142]

>>12381117
Literally 90% of the class knows nothing about philosophy, this is an intro course, that's a dumb fucking question professor.

[Anonymous No.12381150]

>>12381132
I wrote Bible

[Anonymous No.12381156]

Descartes

[Anonymous No.12381164]

>>12381150
Can you send me a signed copy?

[Anonymous No.12381175]

>>12381117
SCA-JI is unironically the most influential philosopher of this century

[Anonymous No.12381176]

>>12381156
What kind of loser's favorite philosopher is Descartes LOL

[Anonymous No.12381192]

Heidegger.

[Anonymous No.12381198]

In alphabetical order:
Aristotle Confucius Hammurabi

[Anonymous No.12381212]

>>12381198
Why the fuck hammurabi?

[Anonymous No.12381231]

>>12381176
The one's who gives women The Dick

[Anonymous No.12381245]

Aristotle.

[Anonymous No.12381250]

>>12381176
Empirists still stay mad lmao

[Anonymous No.12381264]

>>12381212

[Anonymous No.12381276]

>>12381250
>Otherworldly mind "substance" is stored in the balls
>God exists cause... Uh... I mean of course he does lmao don't ask that again

[Anonymous No.12381290]

>>12381264
Based

[Anonymous No.12381291]

>>12381117

I bet that dorky frog-faced chick in the blue turtleneck is an absolute freak. Would probably suck your dick like your ballsack is full of frozen yogurt. Would probably try to stick a finger up your asshole in the meantime. I want to rip off that dopey fucking Velma-Dinkley-ass sweater -- you just know she has these huge tits underneath that she's too shy to actually show off. She is so repressed, waiting for someone to twist her pressure valve (I mean her clitoris but I also mean a metaphorical pressure valve) and let it all off. We can bang on that radiator while the Jewish girl in the corner watches. Also Schopenhauer.

[Anonymous No.12381348]

>>12381291
Based

[Anonymous No.12381351]

Wittgenstein

[Anonymous No.12381352]

>>12381276
Prove me why God couldn't exist. Literally is better to live like if there is a god than not

[Anonymous No.12381354]

>>12381212
If you don't know what all 3 have in common you don't deserve to know.

[Anonymous No.12381357]

>>12381276
wow, I wish I was smart enough to be an atheist and give clever comebacks to theists like this.

[Anonymous No.12381360]

>>12381291
Great post. My first girlfriend in high school was that type. I still think about sexually annihalating her when I jack off to this day.

[Anonymous No.12381383]

>>12381354
Ethics... ?

[Anonymous No.12381390]

>>12381352
Due to identity.

So reality is created before consciousness, therefor reality dictates how consciousness must behave to be successful, not other way around.

for god to exist first he must be conscious, consciousness of what? there would be no substance for his mind to be inside, and nothing to know, nothing to observe, nothing to shape.

this would go against the law of identity.

[Anonymous No.12381468]

>>12381390
I have the perfect meme for ya

[Anonymous No.12381487]

>>12381390
for you to perceive anything you need a hierarchical structure of values
this applies to looking at things, making decisions, moving and thinking.
every person has a value structure, and because of its hierarchical nature, everybody has an ideal, whether or not they are conscious of it.
The "ideal" exists metaphysically (the potential for a person to act, behave and think "perfectly", whatever would constitute that, which every religion has it's own take on), as if the ideal were to be described, it would have to be done through a set of guiding ethical principles (the 10 commandments). The fact that those guiding principles exist, whether they've been discovered yet or not (like how the laws of physics existed before humans discovered and articulated them), means that theres an underlying abstract reality (like the reality of mathematical abstracts derived from objects)

therefore, god exists. the character depiction of god is a mere dramatized articulation of what god actually is. anybody who thinks they've won the discussion because they can debunk the empirical existence of a bearded man in the sky is missing the point.

[Anonymous No.12381500]

Nietzsche, but only because mentally, I am a 15-year-old.

[Anonymous No.12381504]

Jacques Ellul

[Anonymous No.12381513]

>>12381487
>>12381390
also, reality does not exist before consciousness. we have sense data, but everything that we perceive is pattern abstraction. there's an infinite number of ways the universe could potentially be interpreted, so reality is constructed through the limitations of human sensory pattern interpretation. without interpretation, there is no reality, only a nexus.

[Anonymous No.12381523]

>>12381117
Augustine was the last good philosopher

[Anonymous No.12381619]

Easy.
Jacques Derrida

[Anonymous No.12381646]

>>12381117
Diogenes

[Anonymous No.12381650]

>>12381117
I really like Nietzsche’s thoughts on women and Jews, as well as Scholars like you, Teacher.

[Anonymous No.12381666]

>>12381117
DMX

[Anonymous No.12381673]

Nick Land

[Anonymous No.12381676]

>>12381117
Weininger and Spengler

[Anonymous No.12381690]

Unironically Hans Jonas and Hannah Arendt

[Anonymous No.12381697]

>>12381487
>therefore, god exists
Well your post was going pretty okay until this point, this conclusion essentially comes out of fucking nowhere

[Anonymous No.12381703]

>>12381690
>Hannah Arendt
yikes

[Anonymous No.12381772]

>>12381646
Based2

[Anonymous No.12381823]

>>12381352
>>12381357
The argument wasn't that God doesn't exist but rather that Descartes has a piss poor argument in that regard. Pay attention.

[Anonymous No.12381858]

>>12381117

[Anonymous No.12381863]

>>12381117
Parmenides

[Anonymous No.12382016]

>>12381863
His poem sucks both phylosophically and aestethically

[Anonymous No.12382023]

>>12381117
Jordan Peterson

[Anonymous No.12382031]

its ya boi

[Anonymous No.12382033]

>>12382023
Not a philosopher

[Anonymous No.12382048]

Simone Weil

[Anonymous No.12382078]

[Anonymous No.12382174]

>>12381176
Oh man this brings me back to when I was an undergrad and totally obsessed with Mr. R n D. The dude just spoke to me on such a profound level when I encountered him and I quickly bought up all of his stuff, multiple different editions for the same works etc. I even tried teaching myself French and Latin to make sure I was getting all that this madman was doing. His ideas consumed me.
Eventually it got to the point where I even started styling my hair like his and grew a similar goatee. My eyebrows weren't as defined as his so I used to sneak some of my gf's cosmetics to help fill them out. I carried Meditations and Principles of Philosophy everywhere I went, and always tried to center conversations around them no matter who I was talking to: a cashier, my parents, roommates etc. I used to be able to quote practically the whole of them by heart. I also got into really aggressive arguments with dumbasses like OP who didn't understand his genius at all.

Eventually something kind of broke in me. I guess I had already snapped to some degree looking back on it, but then everything went tits up. fast. My gf didn't like the fact that I had accumulated like fifteen portraits of Descartes on the nightstand and on the walls by the bed and the fact that I was apparently constantly looking at them during sex rather than her. Then one day she found me applying her volumizing eyebrow gel and some foundation to try and get that odd tint that Descartes has going for him in some of his portraits, while having an enthusiastic debate in the mirror between an imagined Leibniz and myself as Descartes, just responding how I imagined he would and so on, and she broke down in tears and started screaming at me for being a lunatic and about how she couldn't take it anymore. I tried to explain to her that she really couldn't know for sure that any of what she was experiencing was a true reality that ought to be defined as "Real" and therefore should maintain a rational level of skeptical detachment, but this only exacerbated things.

So she broke up with me and started spreading rumors about how I was a fag and a weirdo who wore makeup and was gay for old philosophers. My life on uni quickly plummeted as I was ostracized which only succeeded in driving me further into my obsession with Descartes and I was eventually suspended after getting into a very heated argument with one of my professors (an empericist) whose car I later desecrated.

My life is pretty shitty now teebH. I usually alternate between cycles of NEETdom and McDonald-tier wageslavery since I never finished my degree but have loads of student debt and legal fees still. I'm not into Descartes anymore but I'm kind of glad for the experience. I doubt others have ever gone quite that far into something.

[Anonymous No.12382183]

>>12381697
god is the guiding ethical principle (or the pinnacle of the value structure), and can be embodied through human behaviour. If i didn't make that clear it's my bad for being a lazy phoneposter.

[Anonymous No.12382186]

[Anonymous No.12382191]

gentile

[Anonymous No.12382229]

>>12382174
That was a boring story, anon

[Anonymous No.12382240]

>>12382229
At least not as boring as Descartes books

[Anonymous No.12382245]

>>12381132
>t. protpleb
The Bible is not more important than the lives of the Saints, the Church Fathers or the Doctors of the Church. Read Aquinas.

[Anonymous No.12382340]

Carnap and Quine

[Anonymous No.12382524]

>>12381117
Socrates because he made a mockery of the court of Athens and laid foundations for most others.

[Anonymous No.12382536]

>>12381264
Goodnight, sweet prince.

[Anonymous No.12382580]

>>12381117
Aristotle

[Anonymous No.12382598]

>>12381117
homer

[Anonymous No.12382611]

>>12381117
I’m unironically going to take my first college philosophy class next week. It has a focus on metaphysics and epistemology. Should I try to reveal my power level by name dropping Kant on the first day, or will I get completely blown out for being a try hard idort.

[Anonymous No.12382618]

>>12382611
You probably won’t get btfo’d but you’ll look like a goober.

[Anonymous No.12382621]

>>12382611
>Kant
Say Evola, I dare you

[Anonymous No.12382626]

[Anonymous No.12382804]

>>12382611
Kant is the staple of western philosophy you probably won't be thought of as a try hard but at least be prepared for any follow up questions so you don't look like a pseud and lose all credibility on day one

[Anonymous No.12382880]

Oops I'm in the wrong class. I signed up for something useful.

[Anonymous No.12382886]

>>12382880
Oh really, what is it? (Employing the Socratic method, thus destroying you with the very thing you mocked)

[Anonymous No.12382999]

>>12381123
How does it feel to live off sucking shit from /lit/'s anus

[Anonymous No.12383006]

>>12381117
Martin Heidegger

[Anonymous No.12383009]

>>12382804
Everyone always talks about how much impact Kant has had but I just don't see it. Are you able to say why he is important and still relevant today?

[Anonymous No.12383038]

>>12381117
Plotinus

[Anonymous No.12383476]

>>12381192
>>12383006
>nazinegger

[Anonymous No.12383493]

>>12381117
Is mayonnaise a philosopher

[Anonymous No.12383496]

Idk yet thats why im in phil 101 ya bitch

[Anonymous No.12383506]

>>12383009
No I'm a pseud myself

[Anonymous No.12383545]

>>12383476
>>12383493
based

>>12381117

[Anonymous No.12383610]

>>12381175
What exactly is original about SCA-JI's thought?

[Anonymous No.12383619]

>>12382999
Feels pretty good, thing about shit is that you can tell what they ate.

[Anonymous No.12383630]

>>12382999
Is guessing the time for a post number and clapback the only function you are capable of performing?

[Anonymous No.12383727]

>BTFO Sellars conception of scientific image of man
>BTFO Dennet Sub-personal levels of explanation and whole instrumentalism
>Literally saves functionalism single-handedly
>Invents new language (mentalese)
>Shits on dualism and reductionism
FUCKING PLEBS MOVE OUT OF HIS WAY.

[Anonymous No.12383761]

>>12382033
I don't understand how this is true unless you just ignore all his Maps of Meaning work

[Anonymous No.12383780]

>>12383630
Have you no respect for the digits. Clearly it is a holy post deserving reverie. Bloody reddit heathen.

[Anonymous No.12383781]

Freddy Neech.

[Anonymous No.12383788]

>>12381291
That bitch has a pack of plan b’s in her purse

[Anonymous No.12383795]

>>12382016
>2019
>borrowing categories

[Anonymous No.12383798]

>>12381351
this

[Anonymous No.12383805]

>>12383761
I thought you were talking about his 12 rules for life. Anyway, that book looks like a tremendous junganian masturbation. Which is worse than own freud's

[Anonymous No.12383810]

>>12381117
philosophers are uninteresting and I prefer the doer to the pathetic "thinkers" who call themselves philosophers and write tomes about their irrelevant definitions. The poet and writer are the true philosophers.

[Anonymous No.12383813]

>>12381117
Richard Rorty

[Anonymous No.12383814]

>>12382183
>>12381487
>Okay so here's why you should pray to the social contract

[Anonymous No.12383843]

>>12381117
Machiavelli

[Anonymous No.12383890]

*Pulls down pants*
*Shits on classroom floor*

Behold, a schoolie stoolie!

[Anonymous No.12383910]

>>12383843
*All the pseuds in the room trip over themselves as they rush to ask if you realize that Machiavelli was actually being satirical and meant the opposite of the Prince*

[Anonymous No.12383936]

>>12381666
Underrated and based and checked

[Anonymous No.12383955]

Socrates, because he was peak alpha. When I'm feeling edgy, Camus

[Anonymous No.12383963]

>>12381117
Marx

[Anonymous No.12383992]

Stirnur%%%%!
HE DEFEAT GHIST ON RENOVED AMERICAN MOVEI ATOP NEWXORK CATHEDTAL TOBVWRE

[Anonymous No.12384178]

Nietzsche. I feel like his was an optimistic loser.

He knew he himself was an inadequate man. So he expounded the importance of striving for a better self.

He was a lonely awkward man. He expressed his belief that dancing, song, and friendship are the best things in life

He was held back by the close minded religious authorities in his life, he reminded us that being good for the sake of sky daddy was as bad as not being good at all.

[Anonymous No.12384303]

>>12381117
>"Sean Goonan"
>Walks out and drops out of school.

[Anonymous No.12384368]

>>12383810
Did you say the poet is the true philosopher?

[Anonymous No.12384380]

[Anonymous No.12384407]

>>12383813
>liberalism
>https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BykRVQaTsC_nOUlscEk5Y2puMWMycWNUZGlnaDVYTndqbVJF/

>>12381117
Hикoлaй Aлeкcaндpoвичъ Бepдяeвъ

[Anonymous No.12384519]

>>12384178
>he reminded us that being good for the sake of sky daddy was as bad as not being good at all.
You haven't read him or severely misread him.

[Anonymous No.12384578]

>>12382023
By this standard my mom would be a philosopher too.

[Anonymous No.12384634]

it's ya boy

[Anonymous No.12384684]

>>12381390
>So reality is created
All reality is not created. God is uncreated.
>for god to exist first he must be conscious, consciousness of what?
Himself.
>there would be no substance for his mind to be inside, and nothing to know, nothing to observe, nothing to shape.
To be conscious first is to be conscious of your conscience. Conscience does not by essence need an external object to be exerced upon. Reflexivity is needed.

[Anonymous No.12384766]

>>12384634
NOOOO

[Anonymous No.12384786]

Rousseau :(

[Anonymous No.12384810]

>>12384684
You run into the exact problem he outlines

[Anonymous No.12384883]

>>12384519
I always interpreted his insistence that God is dead and that the church and it's leaders/adherrants were shit coupled with how he constantly extolled the virtue of working on being the better you and being good and kind was him implying that Christians being good just they feel they have to in order to get into heaven. Their false virtues and lip service they give to God "killed" the true church.

That's how I always interpreted it. If you feel otherwise go right ahead and teach me. I'm always open to discourse

[Anonymous No.12384900]

[Anonymous No.12384907]

>>12381123
Cringe

[Anonymous No.12384951]

>>12381468
tumblr in the file name, yikes.

[Anonymous No.12385167]

>>12381390
Creation has always existed, always having been perceived by God.
God would be nothing without the creation, so the creation has always exists.

[Anonymous No.12385178]

>>12381175
I agree. Subahibi is an unironic work of art.

[Anonymous No.12385193]

[Anonymous No.12385197]

>>12382174
TL;DR

[Anonymous No.12385253]

>>12385197
TL;DRs on /lit/
are you kidding me?

[Anonymous No.12385258]

>>12381176
men who fuck women

[Anonymous No.12385271]

>>12383727
>Died, November 29, 2017
RIP

[Anonymous No.12386004]

>>12383009
>always talks about how much impact Kant has had but I just don't see i

Kant's impact can only be understood with a deep reading of his works. The phil 101 overview of him isn't going to give you much.

[Anonymous No.12386616]

>>12383038
Can you TLDR? I’m having trouble with one of his books called the Aeneids

[Anonymous No.12386690]

ctrl+f Rorty
1 result

>>12383813
Based

[Anonymous No.12386697]

>>12382245
>t. Papist
The bible, as the word of God, is the source and judge of our doctrine and equips us for every work in righteousness.
>16 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, 17 so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.

[Anonymous No.12386700]

>>12381142
>literature 101 class
>"What's your favorite book? If you don't read, you can say your favorite movie instead"
>that person who actually answers with a movie

[Anonymous No.12386703]

No rand?
Bunch of fags

[Anonymous No.12386731]

>>12386690
Rorty is a boring and bored nihilistic piece of shit. That's why he moved from philosophy to comparative literature departments.

[Anonymous No.12386749]

Proudhon. Proud of him, hon.

[Anonymous No.12386764]

Probably Stirner.
His absolute meme status and fringe position make him perfect.

[Anonymous No.12386802]

>>12385193
>mfw had to scroll all the way down to find schopie

[Anonymous No.12387044]

>>12382174
underrated post

[Motoko No.12387071]

>>12383009
You live in a post-Kantian world and you're struggling to become aware of it like a fish struggles to become aware of the water that surrounds it.

[Anonymous No.12387085]

>>12381137
Eurasia 4ever

[Anonymous No.12387096]

Berlin

[Anonymous No.12387315]

>>12381123
this tbqhwyf

[Anonymous No.12387316]

>>12386703
Rand is a projecting insecure midwit and it shows. read Stirner.

[Anonymous No.12387553]

>>12382611
>"I've heard of Kant, acknowledge me"
OH NO NO NO NO

[Anonymous No.12387611]

>>12387044
The rating was accurate, it's a boring story.

[Anonymous No.12387734]

Boethius
I'm more of a poetry than a philosophy person, to be honest

[Anonymous No.12387757]

>>12382174

this is gold

[Anonymous No.12387788]

unironically neetchy

[Anonymous No.12387793]

David Hume

take that continental fags

[Anonymous No.12387869]

>>12386697

The New Testament isn't the word of God. The Old one is, and Jesus is the Word of God but in a more mystical sense. However, the different accounts of Jesus are and should not be considered the word of God. Catholics don't even believe it to be.

[Anonymous No.12388112]

>>12381390
God is not physical dummie

[Anonymous No.12388123]

I am unironically shocked at the lack of any Deleuze or Foucault.

[Anonymous No.12388151]

>>12384368
Came here to support this

[Anonymous No.12388153]

>>12388123

Foucault’s work may have philosophical sources and repercussions, but I wouldn’t call him a philosopher.

[Anonymous No.12388344]

>>12382174
Lmao great post

[Anonymous No.12388432]

karl popper
nassim taleb

[Anonymous No.12388436]

>>12381673
>Nick Land

See me after class boy.

[Anonymous No.12388452]

>>12381245
>>12381351
>>12381858
>>12381863
>>12382340
>>12383727
>>12384634
only respectable choices ITT

For me, it's Saul.

Honourable mentions: Plato and David Lewis. And all of the logic lads like Tarski and Frege.

[Anonymous No.12388467]

>>12383038
only correct answer

[Anonymous No.12388484]

>>12381351
You don’t understand Wittgenstein. WITTGENSTEIN didn’t understand Wittgenstein.

[Anonymous No.12388501]

>>12388452
> a jew

never gonna make it!

[Anonymous No.12388507]

>>12388484

[Anonymous No.12388511]

>>12382611
Philosophy student here. If you live in the states, you have two options on the first day:
>talk shit about philosophy for being dominated by old white Europeans
>mention a female philosopher by name
Would not recommend trying to be a wise guy

[Anonymous No.12388519]

>>12388511
so ben shapiro is not memeing?
t. curious clueless middle-euro

[Anonymous No.12388521]

>>12384634
Patrick Stewart?

[Anonymous No.12388524]

>>12388511
>first day
>everybody is feeling little awkward
>stand up
>*ding* *ding* *ding* pic related
>I'M GONNA SAY THE N-WORD!