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12369938 No.12369938 [Reply] [Original]

Is literature the hardest medium to appreciate in comparison to music and film?

>> No.12369948

music is pure abstraction, and the symphony is the greatest artistic innovation of all time.

>> No.12369953

>>12369938
not necessarily, which is why nowadays Harry Potter has more fans than Bach

>> No.12369954

>>12369938
music is somatic, literature is cerebral. in other words, "phat beatz" are for brainlets while wise words are for patricians.

>> No.12369973

>>12369938
Imo, the film industry is the easiest of all mediums to appreciate.
Both literature and music have room for exprementation and subjectivity. Music and literature that is not appealing to the major audiences still has plenty of places to live.
The film industry seems to leave no space for more exprementation, the moment it becomes too obscure, it dies and gets cancelled. The money it takes to produce a film that is always very high compared to music and literature.

>> No.12369979

>>12369938
To truly appreciate Music is harder than Literature.

>> No.12369981

itt: paragone

more of it more of it

>> No.12370001

>>12369938
>>12369979
Based and redpilled, you've never had chills go down your spine while listening to the Rite of Spring
have you anon? >>12369954
to be honest one of my favourite pieces will always be Liebestraum as it reminds me of past hopes I once had, it still brings me to tears everytime i listen to it.

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>>12369938
>I am above all else, humble.

>> No.12370014

music varies from person to person. hip hop/rap still sounds like shit to me

>> No.12370018

>>12369948
Damn Right.

>> No.12370034

>>12369938
This picture makes me wanna stop reading books

>> No.12370038

>>12369973
It's strange, people are perfectly capable of enjoying music recorded on a shoestring budget yet they're incapable of enjoying similarly budgeted cinema.

>> No.12370042

>>12369938
Nu-/lit/ doesn't know about Bloom-chan.

>> No.12370057

>>12369948
*the fugue/counterpoint

>> No.12370075

>>12369938
What’s the book between Plato’s Republic and Les Mis?

>>12370034
You’re going to eventually, might as well do it sooner than later.

>> No.12370077

>>12370014
Eric B & Rakim - Follow The Leader
Raekwon - Only 4 Cuban Linx...
Big L - Lifestylez Of Da...

>> No.12370159

>>12369938
it's just literally words

>> No.12370168

>>12370014
same, i listed to everything except rap and country

>> No.12370180

>>12370038
Yep, that is one of the main diferences.
But i guess its more complicated than that.
Music and films focus on diferent things.
Black metal fans, for example, dont mind listening to shit quality recorded music and even praise it for giving more "texture" to it, as long as they can hear and apreciate the musical composition. Films on the other hand, focus more on the image and set, if the image looks flawed and fails to represent what it should be then it sucks. A film that sucks is the equivelent of a music that is badly played in the meaning that the artists cant play all the notes without missing.
Films always seem to be more objective than subjective compared to other mediums, imo. Its efordless to see a movie, and they dont touvh the realm of subjectivity as much as literature or music do.

>> No.12370189

>>12370075
ulysses

>> No.12370202

>>12370077
This is exactly that type of bixnood that people dislike in rap.

>> No.12370204

Music is definitely harder. I've read books about music theory to better appreciate music but I've never read books about reading books.

>> No.12370208

>>12370202
fine then, RUN DMC - Raising Hell

>> No.12370226

>>12369938
Films only became low IQ when literaturecels took over

>> No.12370285

>>12370180
because people aren't used to watch challenging films
not only that, independent filmmaking is incredibly hard
an inspired author or musician can easily release his works for the world with little money, but a film is a collaborative work that costs way too much
big studios won't finance anything arthouse or challenging to the large crowds
not only that, most people are completely unaware that film can be art rather than pure shallow entertainment. You'll often find normies calling movies made before 2000 old
people are actually that braindead, imagine showing someone who only cares about capeshit and oscar-bait a director with slightly more artsy sensitivities, like one from the french new-wave or italian neorealism
now imagine showing a Brakhage film

>> No.12370327

>>12370038
even the most extravagantly produced music costs nothing in comparison to even the average budget of a film someone might see in theaters. This is like saying that people would want to own a car that was built for under 30 grand but wouldn't want to live in a similarly low budget house.

>> No.12370350

>>12370285
to be fair to the "normies" film has only been around for like 100 years so something that was made almost two decades ago is pretty old relatively speaking

>> No.12370378

>>12369938
You don't appreciate music by just putting it on in the background

>> No.12370384

>>12369938

>dat pseud starter pack

>> No.12370387

>>12370159
>It's just literally sounds
>It's just literally images
You're literally retarded

>> No.12370443

>>12369948
This. Sadly what is popularly known as "music" is nothing but niggernoise.

>> No.12370464

>>12370285
>brakhage
>not braindead
oof

>> No.12370469

>>12369938
no one should ever brag about reading translated classics

>> No.12370470

>>12369938
sure you can have on and listen to mozart and bach, just as you can read a summary of a complex book, at an immature age but you wont understand either unless you get in depth.

>> No.12370484

>>12370285
You seem to have a much bigger understanding in movies than i do desu.
I agree with you, you seem to be very much on point with the state of the film industry.
Its just that it doesnt get talked as much and its even harder to find these said "obscure" movies than it is to find most books and music.

>> No.12370498

>>12370484
Criterion collection, torrent

>> No.12370544

>>12370484
>Its just that it doesnt get talked as much and its even harder to find these said "obscure" movies than it is to find most books and music.
https://letterboxd.com/
https://letterboxd.com/momsaysitsok/list/r-truefilm-canon-1000-films/
https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueFilm/

>> No.12370553

>>12369938
These are the people you argue with on /lit/

>> No.12370578

>>12370553
>he argues on /lit/
You're more like him than you realize

>> No.12370594

>>12370553
Probably not. Someone who brags about being an intellectual on social media won't find much use in an anonymous board. I'd bet he uses reddit or something on the likes to masturbate his ego on "discussions"

>> No.12370600

>>12369973
>The film industry seems to leave no space for more exprementation, the moment it becomes too obscure, it dies and gets cancelled
My country funded an "exquisite corpse" style film, aggressively nonsensical, like two years ago.

>>12370204
>but I've never read books about reading books
You should.

>>12370553
It's a meme you dip

>> No.12370665

>>12370464
>oof
yikes

>> No.12370798

>>12369938
Yes, but anyone of average intelligence can read literature, being able to understand The Great Gatsby doesn't make you intelligent because guess what? So did most 15-17 year old high school students. That chode is going to attempt to read all those and he's either going to power through it all and get nothing out of it so he can virtue signal to people who don't care that he thinks he's incredibly smart or he's going to give up 75 pages into IJ like 90% of the psuedointellectuals before him did.

>> No.12371182

>>12369938
LMAO he used an apostrophe for Finnegans Wake! What a FUCKING PSEUD! Just like me

>> No.12371385

>>12369938
It obviously depends on the work. Also, just because something is inaccessible, it doesn't make it good

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>>12370001
The Rite of Spring is beyond based

>> No.12371415

>>12370001
>classical music
yikes

>> No.12372092

>>12369938
This shit is mystifying to me. Why are they tolerating and catering to this guy? Do they not see what he's doing? The most they can pic out is that he's humble bragging (he's not).

>> No.12372100

>>12371415
you need a 130+ IQ to appreciate classical music. sorry bucko

>> No.12372102

>>12370010
>>12370034
>>12370384
>>12370469
>>12370553
>>12370798
>>12371182
>>12372092
Welcome to /lit/ you fucking newfags
L U R K M O R E

>> No.12372117

>>12369973
It also requires more work force for live action. Literature and music can be done solo easily, but making a film is a lot harder with just one person

>> No.12372139

>>12372100
>people who listen to classical are the same people who take IQ seriously

double yikes

>> No.12372151

>>12369948
>the symphony is the greatest artistic innovation of all time.
no, anime is.

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>>12372102

>> No.12372206

>>12372139
t. coping brainlet

>> No.12372537

>>12369948
This

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>>12372151
>no, anime is.

>> No.12372551

>>12372139
Lmao 12 year old fag
>doesn't take iq seriously
what's your brain circumference fag max 2-3cm maybe 4cm max?

>> No.12372805

>>12369938
this is fake rite guys

>> No.12372833

I want to know if he actually read or understood them.
If that's the case, the fat ugly man deserves at least a slight bit of respect, as every man deserves some if they're willing to work for it at the price receive no recognition. But sadly I doubt that is the case. These are likely the books he merely plans on reading, he's posing with, and will eventually abandon after realizing theyre too hard.

>> No.12372850 [DELETED] 

>>12372833

Idk. I could be friends with that guy if we went to the same school. But i was literally made homeless by greedy faggots.

>> No.12372853

Malcom in the Middle summed up the difference between music and literature pretty well. Malcom was full retard because he couldnt understand music and his left brain autism caused him to subconsciously destroys his brothers hearing ability.

>> No.12372856

>>12372850
what did the greedy fags do?

>> No.12372922

>>12369948
*noise wall

>> No.12372934

>>12372100
Nah you just need a subconcious hard-on for aristicracy

>> No.12374292

>>12369938
this is truly the mark of a true pleb and cretin. why is it that low iq people always assume that something they don't know shit about requires no skill and/or intellect. it's always the same fucking thing, people saying modern art is shit because it's nonrepresentative (thus easy to make for some reason?) or electronic music is bad because it doesn't have any real instruments in it and is made by pressing play. what a bunch of jerks

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>>12370204
Nice chart here

>> No.12374592

>>12374292
>modern art is shit because it's nonrepresentative
modern art is shit because it's ugly and nonrepresentative

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>>12369938
Anime fullstop

>> No.12374649

>>12369954
But I like both
I think looking to musicians for their words is brainlet activity. If you want wisdom read a book. If you want entertainment listen to music