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Watching the plays, rather than reading them, is the superior form of consuming Shakespeare. If you disagree, you're wrong. Also, Othello is the best tragedy to flow from this God-like white man's pen. All other opinions are incorrect.

>> No.12365042

>normal person
I like toast

>4chan user who moved over from Reddit in 2016
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>> No.12365070
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12365070

>>12364981

>go see Romeo and Juliet
>Juliet is a man (not a man dressed as a woman, but the character is now a man)
>story takes place in space and there are light saber battles
>references to memes and pop culture thrown in
>ending changed so they both live and give a speech about resisting trump
>tfw this is the way Shakespeare was meant to be experienced

>> No.12365073

>>12364981
>To be or not to be
>*cough cough*
>that is the question
fuck audiences. I'd rather sit in my comfy chair with nothing but minor editing and a few hundred years separating me from the Bard's pen.

>> No.12365074

>>12365070
This type of shit is way too common

>> No.12365085

Performing them is best of all, though

>> No.12365087

>>12365073
Just watch Kenneth Branagh's movie adaptation

>> No.12365090

>>12365087
>Kenneth Branagh

he made one (1) good shakespeare film and it's not hamlet

>> No.12365096

>>12365090
Which one?

>> No.12365116

>>12364981
>He doesn't mentally visualize a stage and acting troupe to perform the plays inside his own head
Absolutely pleb tier

>> No.12365135

>>12365096

If you have to ask you can never know.

>> No.12365154

>>12365135
Or you could just tell him...

>>12365090
Henry V.

>> No.12365162

>>12365154
second part meant for >>12365096

>> No.12365175

>>12364981
Performing the play yourself as you read is the true patrician way to appreciate Shakespeare

>> No.12365315

>>12364981
You have simply never learned how to read plays. It is a skill that must be learnt, through regular theatre visits of course. But reading is in the end, for the accomplished reader, equally as satisfying. There are elements exclusive to experiencing a performance and others exclusive to reading.

>> No.12365351

>>12365073
This, peoplw always need to break the ice with their fucking coughing whenever they think something is melodramatic, have some fucking respect for the actors atleast

>> No.12365365

>BAIT THREAD

Nevertheless, the best way to enjoy shakespeare is to get a bunch of lit/shakespeare fan friends together and each sit in a circle each with a book and pick roles and perform the play by reciting it together all the way through

>> No.12365419

Both are great m8.
Performing them probably beats both, alas I don't know because I am an awkward clammy actor and no one I know cares about Shakey.

>> No.12365434

But Shakespeare was a black man..

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>>12365434
>man
I don't think so honey.

>> No.12365459

>>12365073
>he's bothered by an occasional cough
You'd go crazy at an actual Elizabethan theatrical performance.
Also, I assume you've never been at a classical concert. Theater audiences are nothing compared to that shit.

>>12365087
Film cannot replace a live play. If you disagree you are more of a faggot than Shakespeare was a black woman.

>>12364981
When I saw Othello it was shit. They started the play by having O and Desdemonda appear for a moment, just married, joyously threw a bouquet at the audience, nearly hit me with it in the face.
Though, I saw two other versions, one deconstructed and psychoanalyzed to insanity, other adapted by Verdi, and they were top notch.

>> No.12365477

>>12365042
ironically a very reddit post

>> No.12365501

>>12365459
Its not about the cough being occasional, its whenever there's a famous line being told dramatically someone always haa to fucking cough because its melodramatic they get so self aware. I went to an agatha christie play and there was no coughing ever what i remember, even when there was long silence

>> No.12365524

>>12364981
>See Twelfth Night in Melbourne
>Slapstick is waaay played up because no one gets the jokes the original audience would have
>They have Sir Andrew do that fucking Fortnite dance
Not as bad as this >>12365070 but still enjoyed reading the play more

>> No.12365549

>>12365524
>>They have Sir Andrew do that fucking Fortnite dance
Shit like this is why I always carry a couple of spoiled eggs to the theater.

>> No.12365564

>>12365524
This kind of stuff would be fun/charming if the general person was well or semi versed in shakespeare and that p much everyone knew the original, but they dont, people who dont understand shakespeare act in and go to waych these plays which makes absolutely no sense to me

>> No.12365588

>>12365459
>You'd go crazy at an actual Elizabethan theatrical performance.
Yeah I probably would. I'd just buy a quarto and go back home.

>Also, I assume you've never been at a classical concert. Theater audiences are nothing compared to that shit.
Why would I when I can just put on a recording? You aren't doing a very good job at convincing me live shows are worth it.

>> No.12365623

>>12365459
>You'd go crazy at an actual Elizabethan theatrical performance.
Although now that I think of it, groundlings shouting advice to the characters and being rowdy is still 100 times better than silence interrupted by coughing, which is probably the most disgusting sound humans regularly make (farts at least sound funny).

>> No.12365659

>>12365588
>You aren't doing a very good job at convincing me live shows are worth it.
I wasn't really trying. Just commenting.

>> No.12365831

>>12365365
>Posting something objectively correct is bait

>> No.12365855

>>12365096
Cringe

>> No.12365885

I went to Chicago Shakespeare theater. Pretty good, would be surrounded by wine aunts again

>> No.12365959

>>12365090
I quite enjoyed Much Ado About Nothing

>> No.12366001

>>12365070
I fucking hate this shit. It's why I love Kenneth Branagh so much. Theatre fags try so hard to be subversive that we're at the point where playing the story straight is rebellious.

>> No.12366021

>>12366001
Blame the fact that only like two people in the world write plays any more so they've been performing the same fucking shit year in year out for decades.

>> No.12366112

>>12366021
There's actually a ton of new dramas being written all the time. The problem lies to a significant degree in the conservative audiences. Why produce some excellent new text when you could produce another Shakespeare and get guaranteed profit from pseuds and schoolkids?
Though, the unrestrained and shitty regietheater isn't blameless either.

>> No.12366123

You aren't using commas correctly. Are you literate?

>> No.12366791

>>12365623
>(farts at least sound funny).
The average /lit/ comedian, everyone

>> No.12366815

>>12366791
Fart jokes are everywhere in literature. Shakespeare, Joyce, Melville, the list goes on...