/sffg/ - Science Fiction & Fantasy General

[Anonymous No.12362990]

BAD BOOKS EDITION
>What are the worst books that you actually finished?
>Describe the awfulness and why others should avoid said books.

Monthly Reading for January: A Scanner Darkly by Philip K Dick

Fantasy's Greatest:
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General:
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Flowchart:
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The best of Science Fiction:
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NPR's Top 100 Science Fiction & Fantasy Books:
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SF&F author listing with ratings and summaries:
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Previously on autism central:
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[Anonymous No.12363012]

Download: http://b-ok.cc/book/878958/0c476b

[Anonymous No.12363076]

sorry if this is unwelcome but I didn't feel it warranted its own thread. Is there a free screenwriting program you guys would recommend?

[Anonymous No.12363104]

>>12362990
i can't think of one, i don't finish books i dont like
but the worst one was forever war, i dropped it at 90% or so because of the faggotry that happens on almost every page

[Anonymous No.12363111]

I tend to drop books that I don't like. Among those were two by Scalzi and Red Rising. Name of the Wind and Ready Player One were two popular ones that I finished and hated for reasons that are obvious

[Anonymous No.12363140]

>>12362990
I managed to avoid reading any truly awful book during the past year. The worst books I read were Foundation 1 & 2 and Solaris.

[Anonymous No.12363153]

>>12363111
Red Rising I feel is one of the few books that improves massively after the first book. No more Hunger Games shit and instead you get a book filled with politics and civil war.

[Anonymous No.12363161]

What's the Blame! of /sffg/?

[Anonymous No.12363216]

>>12363153
the second book fucking sucks lol

the whole plot is the main character being dumb as shit and its all just killing time until the third book can resolve the plot

[Anonymous No.12363237]

>>12363161
fuck off weeb

[Anonymous No.12363295]

>>12363153
I've heard this a lot and it's the reason I consider picking it up again. I dropped it about halfway through. I thought it was awful, lame selfinsert protagonist, cliches, flat side characters, etc.

[Anonymous No.12363314]

>>12363237
I just wanna silently journey through a huge strange world meeting weird residents and try to do something about the bleak situation.

[Anonymous No.12363350]

do you think if a society have a full VR dive technology they would use very little irl space? everything can be done inside the virtual world as long as you have enough computation power. office, recreation places, public spaces, basically any building beside restaurant is replaceable in the virtual world
what do you guys think?

[Anonymous No.12363351]

>>12362990
>>What are the worst books that you actually finished?
Age of swords by Michael Sullivan
>>Describe the awfulness and why others should avoid said books.
Mind numbing amounts of girl power.

[Anonymous No.12363370]

Currently reading the third book of the Three-Body-Problem series and I really enjoy it, finally getting back into sci-fi

Ordered a few books to read next, any recommendations where to start next?

Philipp K Dich Collection (Ubik, Three Stigmata, Man in the High Castle, Do Androids Dream Of Electric Sheep?)
Children of Time
Old Man’s War
We are Legion (We are Bob)

[Anonymous No.12363374]

>>12362990
>What are the worst books that you actually finished?
Prince of Thorns

[Anonymous No.12363376]

>>12363161
Galactic Center Saga by Gregory Benford
And pretty much any Cyberpunk books from the 80s and early 90s

[Anonymous No.12363379]

>>12363370
i suggest old man's war, but only read until the 3rd book

[Anonymous No.12363384]

Is Red Sister ok?

[Anonymous No.12363414]

>>12363161
Possibly later parts of Pushing Ice

>>12363370
Recommend looking into Alastair Reynolds.

[Anonymous No.12363422]

>>12363379
I’d say you don’t even really need to go past the first. That being said I read up to the Last Colony and wouldn’t mind finding out what else happens, but I also have no desire to read a whole book from Zoe’s perspective.

>>12362990
Probably Ready Player One. Although the second Hunger Games wasn’t much better. I read both at the same time when I was stuck with nothing to do, no, internet, and a very limited reading selection for a couple of weeks.

[Anonymous No.12363423]

I'm new to /lit/ why do people hate A Song of Ice and Fire here.

[Anonymous No.12363432]

>>12363384
It's meme Lawrence's best book by far, which is not saying much since all his other books are trash, overall it's a decent book.
Arya Stark joins Hogwarts to train as a magic ninja nun is the gist of the storyline.
That said the second book Grey Sister is also not very good.

[Anonymous No.12363446]

>>12363422
i finished it as well till the last colony but i don't think it's worth it to go through all that just to find out what happens, but it's still a fun time killer nonetheless
i skipped the zoe book too, i dont know why anyone would want to read the same story again from a different perspective with some added details that are not important

[Anonymous No.12363452]

>>12363423
because we read better stuff

[Anonymous No.12363464]

>>12363423
The first three books are fantastic, then the author entered the "for the rest of my life" phase of his plan and the plot, let alone the publication, began to drag.

[Anonymous No.12363474]

>>12363452
>we
Don't lump me in with you degenerates, I'm sure your taste is fucking shit.
Besides, the day "we" all agree on a book is the day this general dies.
Also, Asoiaf is leaps and bounds better than most modern fantasy, other than inspiring a new generation of cucklord unoriginal grim derp writers it hasn't done much wrong aside from not being finished.

[Anonymous No.12363479]

>>12363474
seething

[Anonymous No.12363505]

>>12363104
The whole point of the buggery is so that you can experience culture shock alongside the protagonist.

[Anonymous No.12363518]

>>12363384
It's far and away his best work, but that makes it merely "good", not :great". And, I don't even hat all his previous works like most here, I consider them OK.

[Anonymous No.12363536]

>>12363505
i know, and you replied the exact same thing to my every forever war post in past threads

[Anonymous No.12363542]

Any decent sword & sorcery on KU? All I've been able to find is some ESL garbage. Doesn't need to be great, but a decent grasp of the language on the part of the author would be nice.

[Anonymous No.12363543]

>>12363452
But it's unironically really good. I genuinely don't understand how you can say it's bad. Maybe the writing style is subjectively unpleasant to some people. But the countless subtleties and intricacies in character motivation,personality, and action make it, one of the most realistic and interesting series about people themselves ever written. Let alone the fantastical world which with the release of Fire and Blood has become one of greatest and most impressive exercises in world building in literature.

>>12363464
Expand on these feelings if you wouldn't mind. I personally liked AFfC and ADwD, i'm genuinely interested to hear why you didn't like them, no memes.

[Anonymous No.12363554]

>>12363543
i haven't read it yet so i don't know what you're talking about

[Anonymous No.12363556]

>>12363536
Kek, yeah I can be a broken record sometimes.

[Anonymous No.12363561]

>>12362990
>>What are the worst books that you actually finished?

The First Law trilogy. Then I went full autist and read the standalones because I couldn't believe that someway somehow Abercrombie had to get better. At least it shows that I'm not a quitter.

>>Describe the awfulness and why others should avoid said books.

The entire six book "First Law" world could have been edited into two books. The entire thing crawls and crawls, leaving you just continuously sucking your gums until your anger at how you're shitting your life away reading this nothing leads your Bruce Banner-self to Hulk out. Oops, sorry...leads your Logen Ninefingers-self to Bloody-Nine out. The "plot" of a medical journal moves faster.

[Anonymous No.12363575]

>>12363543
I don't know, I flushed AFFC about halfway through. First three books, you learn something relevant to the mysteries every chapter. AFFC started having chapters where you don't learn anything, just see things. The writing quality didn't necessarily degrade, (aside from that one time Arya got hit in the head with an axe but was suddenly just fine a couple chapters later I dunno what the fuck was up with that plot armor), but the aspect of mystery was what was keeping me interested. Once that took a back seat to "here's why X character feels the way you know they feel" I stopped caring.

[Anonymous No.12363577]

>>12362990
Bad Books, you say?

Such a colossal disappointment. Nothing happens the entire book.

[Anonymous No.12363583]

>>12363561
But did he totally subvert your fantasy expectations?

[Anonymous No.12363617]

>>12363575
I can understand that feeling. But I think that can be said for any book(s) that expand beyond a certain point. I think it might be just how absolutely fucking massive the books are, if he kept on making up new enigmatic stuff the entire time it would have totally over saturated. I think for me I like the human aspect of the books more so than the mysterious background of it all. Do you by chance like crime novels?

[Anonymous No.12363687]

>>12363617
Crime novels are formulaic bullshit, there's no mystery when you know what you're reading

[Anonymous No.12363704]

>>12363474
Who do you think you are fooling Mr Dditor?

[Anonymous No.12363763]

>>12363583
Of course. I now expect plots to crawl along as slowly as possible.

[Anonymous No.12363794]

>>12363561
I really liked the villain
Whole books should be from his perspective
Miss-leading puny mortals while making schemes to become a god

[Anonymous No.12363815]

>>12363543
If intricacy, scope and worldbuilding in themselves were measurements of quality WoT and Malazan would be the best series I've read and Brandon Sanderson would be on his merry way to become the best SFF writer ever. But that is not the case. GRRM lose the thread after a couple of books and what was once countless subtleties and intricacies just turn into a hot mess. Every book was looser than the one before, and read fouler. Also, not that anon.

But it's not a total trainwreck, I'll read Winds of Winter if he ever manage to finish it.

[Anonymous No.12363838]

>>12363561
I liked the first one (the only one I've read) but the Bloody Nine shit was fucking retarded

[Anonymous No.12363907]

>>12363161
Feersum Endjinn, literally. BLAME! is actually based off of a few scifi books, there's a list somewhere but I forget the rest.

[Anonymous No.12363908]

>>12363423
Because it’s popular.

[Anonymous No.12363934]

>>12362990
The part of the sword of truth series where an entire book follows three random retarded peasants instead of the main characters. Not only are they the most unlikable, idiotic, tedious dullards imaginable, but in the end, before ANYTHING has actually happened in any of their plots, randomly while crossing a hill they run into the actual MC of the book who instantly, I'm talking a single paragraph, kills all of them. Then someone makes a comment like "I wonder who those people were." and I swear he says "Probably not interesting, I don't care." Like a fucking slap in the face.

[Anonymous No.12363964]

>>12363446
Good to know I can skip Zoe’s book. But I finished Last Colony a few years ago. At this point I’ve got no real desire to finish the series. I’ve got a few other series to read right now anyway.

[Anonymous No.12363974]

How do we stop Rothfuss?

[Anonymous No.12363986]

>>12363974
Elect drumpf for another 4 years, so he’s too busy protesting to write

[Anonymous No.12364000]

>>12363986
No, i mean something other than what was already going to happen.

[Anonymous No.12364009]

>>12363974
He'll be exposed as a child molester eventually. People like him always are.

Whether or not that will matter in a few years is up for debate. He might just become more popular for being "so brave".

[Anonymous No.12364027]

>>12363374
Why?

[Anonymous No.12364065]

>>12363423
I didn't hate it, but I got to the end of the first book and didn't really care about any of the characters or world. But it was about five years ago and I can't really remember anything about it. Lack of emotional investment will do that.
I vaguely remember not really liking his prose.

[Anonymous No.12364088]

>>12363161
From the author himself:
Great Sky River by Gregory Albert Benford (Cibo)
Feersum Endjin by Ian Banks (Netsphere)
Busou Shimada Souko and Ad-Bird by Shiina, Matoko (Garbage storage, Tetsu, Zulu)
Dead boys and Dead Girls by Richard Calder (Ivy and Maeve)
Kirinyaga by Mike Resnick (Mensaab)
Greg Bear's New Collection by Gregory Dale Bear Permutation City by Greg Egan Hyperion, The Fall of Hyperion, Endymion, and The Rise of Endymion by Dan Simmons
Neuromancer, Count Zero, Mona Lisa Overdrive, and Burning Chrome by William Gibson
Steel Beach, The Ophiuchi Hotline, Millenium, Titan, Wizard, The Persistence of Vision, Blue Champagne, and The Barbie Murders(Picnic on Nearside) by John Varley
Billenium by James Graham Ballard

[Anonymous No.12364089]

Wow, what an unholy demon spawn of shit.

Is this 2019 in comic form?

[Anonymous No.12364098]

I have never read a SFF book that was a 4/5 or above. My favorite 3 stars are Shadow of the Torturer and Assassin's Apprentice, though I didn't care enough about either to proceed to the next book. The by far worst things I've read are Sanderson and Dune.

I'm willing to give the genre another shot and try any book you think especially highly of. Preferably with some reasoning as to why you think it's so great.

[Anonymous No.12364119]

>>12363423
>I'm new to 4chan why do people hate [insert popular thing] here.

[Anonymous No.12364130]

>>12364098
What are some of your favourite books? Preferably non SFF fiction.

[Anonymous No.12364142]

>>12364089
PICKLE

[Anonymous No.12364145]

>>12364119
Because something is popular only if it appeals to as many people as possible by being as simple to understand and enjoy as possible.

If you dislike things that are dumbed down and aimed at an audience with an IQ of less than 100 and do not require any specialized experience or personal qualities like patience, then you won't like it.

[Anonymous No.12364166]

>>12364098
Yeah me too. I keep thinking that I might find something good eventually, but it just never happens. At this point I'm fully convinced that genre writers are just plain dumb/childish. Such a shame. It's like it's impossible for an author to love bloodshed and action and still be intelligent.

[Anonymous No.12364243]

>>12364027
Not him, but the main character is bad and those books are bad.

[Anonymous No.12364262]

>>12362990
name of the wind

[Anonymous No.12364303]

>>12364262
What exactly is the relevance of the wind's name in the books?

[Anonymous No.12364387]

I'm going to be quitting my job soon, enjoying a few months of the NEET life before trying to find a more fulfilling job.

One thing I'm hoping to do is rekindle my will to write during this time, as I won't be a burned out husk any longer.

Are there any worthwhile sci-fi/fantasy writing seminars across the country that will make me bust my ass and actually get writing done? Looking for recommendations.

[Anonymous No.12364417]

>>12364098
These are my 3.5-4.5 books from a few years ago.

[Anonymous No.12364418]

>>12364387
are you willing to sell your soul to the marxists?

[Anonymous No.12364423]

>>12364418
I've got an English degree from an extremely liberal college. I can hide my power level pretty well in those situations.

[Anonymous No.12364433]

>>12363974
Hopefully he'll eat himself to death or get a heart attack while bitching about Trump. I think he's too lazy to continue writing his shit series. Wasn't the second book criticised and not acclaimed as the first? That probably triggered him.

[Anonymous No.12364438]

>>12363536
kek

[Anonymous No.12364441]

>>12364098
>>12364166
Yeah, I wish I could get invested in a series but I almost always end up annoyed at cliches, lazy writing, bad dialogue and cheesy moments. What I did like however was Revelation Space.

[Anonymous No.12364444]

>>12364303
He copied it from the wizard of earthsea (and older wizard logic). Where to have the true name of something, is to have power over it. But the wind is an ever changing thing, and it's name isn't always the same.

[Anonymous No.12364446]

>>12362990
>le self inserted sex god patrick

[Anonymous No.12364447]

>>12363295
I made it through the first three and they are equally terrible.

[Anonymous No.12364453]

>>12364387

[Anonymous No.12364460]

>>12364387
>wants to accomplish something for himself
>feels entirely dependent upon others to make him do this thing for himself
this is gonna come off as not nice, but pull your head outta your ass and self motivate. that's why you aren't fulfilled in your job either. people who do things for themselves are able to do things themselves, that's why it's called "for yourself".

[Anonymous No.12364467]

>>12364423
but can you write like rothfuss for the rest of your days and live with yourself?

[Anonymous No.12364475]

>>12364433
See:
>>12364089
he's more popular than ever, with no end in sight.

[Anonymous No.12364490]

>What are the worst books that you actually finished?

The magicians by lev grossman

>Describe the awfulness and why others should avoid said books

I really dont think I can communicate how cringey and cucked these books are. I know reddit is a meme word but Grossman is actually fucking reddit. The main character is an emasculated cuck who at first I didnt mind because he had the whole dude i go to wizard school but im still not fulfilled and dont have any purpose in life thing wasnt too bad, then the next 2 books are set in the dudes cringey narnia rip off world and it becomes clear that the main character is and always was a spineless pussy to the point that he can't accomplish anything. The author also hamfistedly made all the female characters smarter, stronger, and less averse to violence than the main character, which just highlighted how much I hated him. Even the childhood crush girl who failed the epic magic exam of course ends up being more powerful and interesting than the main character.

Also the author seems says some truly pathetic (coming from a middle aged man) things about nerds and how smart and cool they are. Also dude depression lmao.

Theyre just fucking awful, neither the mature take on harry potter nor the wish fulfilment for adults that it was trying to be. In a better world Grossman would be stoned to death for writng something like this. The books also get steadily worse the more you read. By the end of the series i was reading just because the intensity of the hatred I felt for this series and its writer was so intense.

[Anonymous No.12364494]

>>12364460
I usually just feel better at doing things on a deadline. Without one I meander and get depressed.

[Anonymous No.12364506]

A friend of mine recommended this. Said friend has horrible taste in just about everything, he even loves Name of the Wind.

Anyone familiar with it?

[Anonymous No.12364512]

>>12364494
yeah, unfortunately you need to have someone willing to publish you before you get to that point though. the real legwork has to be entirely of one's own volition

[Anonymous No.12364518]

>>12364506
Yeah. We are familiar with it.

[Anonymous No.12364545]

>>12364512
Some people just don't know how to manage that, anon. I have so many possible projects, and my passion for them arbitrarily waxes and wanes. It makes me anxious to commit to a single story and just sit down to write it.

Doubt constantly paralyzes me.

[Anonymous No.12364555]

>>12364545
>Doubt constantly paralyzes me.
The price of not being an idiot. Have you considered a job in a field that is not being actively destroyed by faggots and women?

[Anonymous No.12364565]

>>12364555
No. I'm only good at writing and making game mechanics.

[Anonymous No.12364567]

>>12364518
>Self Published

[Anonymous No.12364572]

>>12364565
Picked a bad time to be alive, friend.

[Anonymous No.12364586]

>>12364572
i would argue that we all did, every one of us

[Anonymous No.12364606]

>What are the worst books that you actually finished?

This. The whole series drove me mad, but this is the first one in the series where I felt bewildered by the time I finished it: nothing happened.

Seriously, I can't for the fucking life of me remember anything that happened in this book. In retrospect, it started earlier. Nothing happened in the seventh book either. I think Rand killed one of the forsaken, but whatever.

Whole books would pass and nothing would be solved, nothing would change, people stayed the same, hell, I think in some books some characters literally never got out of one city.

The first 3 books or so I thought I had found something new and fun. By the tenth I was so frustrated that I stopped.

Also, he's a shit rider. Ever girl is a whore who acts completely the same.

>She tugged her braid in frustration, then coyly smiled as she remembered how he pounded her with his massive cock that one time.

^every female character.

[Anonymous No.12364611]

>>12364572
At the very least, I don't have to choose life.

[Anonymous No.12364631]

>>12364606
Honestly, while Jordan may have been terrible at moving the story forward and just about anything else, nothing comes close to pic related.

>edgyness
>14 year old wimp bullying grown men into submission
>can't figure out how to write yourself out of a corner? use technology
>triggering a nuke by setting it on fire
>scaring an evil wizard by being edgy
>faint lines taken straight out of The Long Walk and Blood Meridian without the wit or creativity

[Anonymous No.12364700]

>>12364606
i stopped halfway through book 3 and will never go back even if i read every other fantasy book ever written. utter garbge

[Anonymous No.12364727]

>>12363974
There’s nothing to stop. He hasn’t written in years. Time for you to move on, friend; he already has.

[Anonymous No.12364771]

>>12362990
Milkman by Anna Burns. It's one of those novels written by someone who thinks Finnegan's Wake should be how every book is written, not that that style of writing is experimental and it's perfectly okay to only read novels like that occasionally, and instead read novels that are (God forbid) fun to read. At first I thought British critics were shitting on it because it wasn't a novel by someone who did an MA in creative writing at UEA but it really is academic in A bad way. The one thing it has going for it is that in some parts the protagonist's thoughts on social interaction are painfully relatable. Starting some Dostoyevsky next which will hopefully entertain me way more.

[Anonymous No.12364792]

>>12364631
You are wrong
> its masterpiece of character progression dude
>those post apocalyptic twists duude
>you can't say it's bad unless you read books 2 and 3 bro
>Lawrence is a master stylist
>xd

Literal YA bullshit catered to edgy faggots. I wished I could erase the memory of this fucking book.

[Anonymous No.12364901]

>>12363974
What >>12364727 said. He knows he’s already exceeded his limits. He’s not going to bother writing the third book.

[Anonymous No.12364915]

>>12364727
>he hasn't written in years
See: >>12364089
He's still been given an extremely lucrative comic to write. His popularity isn't going anywhere.

[Anonymous No.12364953]

>>12364606
Look faggot. When you came here last year asking to read this we told you not to. You said you gonna do it anyways. We said fine, just don't come crying to us. You read it now stfu. We don't want to hear shit you put yourself in after multiple advice of not reading it.

[Anonymous No.12364958]

>>12364915
You can just ignore it and read things you want instead of paying attention to things you don’t like.

[Anonymous No.12364961]

>>12364958
yeah that's working well. Except it limits me to books written before the year 2000 forever.

[Anonymous No.12365124]

Writers in this thread: how do you go about organizing all of your ideas about the world you're building?

I wasn't planning on making more than one singular story - it was even set up like, there clearly is a world outside the setting, but that's not part of this - but new ideas kept coming to me, and now I have a whole world to work with. I kept focusing only on building those ideas, and now my project folder is a cluttered mess.

[Anonymous No.12365149]

>>12364387
Try nootropics.

[Anonymous No.12365166]

I stopped regging this thread because I hate you all and fantasy sucks and I hate you all. Any good sci-fi titles coming around or out recently?

[Anonymous No.12365180]

>>12365166
Alliance Rising comes out tomorrow :3

[Anonymous No.12365244]

>>12365180
>her far-reaching sci-fi saga

[Anonymous No.12365428]

>>12364518
I've read most of what's in this chart. Can you recommend other good amazon books?
I just finished that blue mage raised by dragon some recommended a few weeks ago. and I need something that is not shit. William D Arand isn't releasing anything anytime soon.

[Anonymous No.12365441]

>>12364518
>>12365428
No fucking way these are recommended as anything other than shit to avoid.

[Anonymous No.12365464]

>>12365441
You just outed yourself as someone who doesn't read. I bet you are from pol too. The ones I read were fun. I want fun books.

[Anonymous No.12365474]

are you guys familiar with the Great SF & Fantasy Works site? there's a master list of supposedly outstanding authors, im having an interesting time reading the pages of the highest rated authors

[Anonymous No.12365530]

>>12365464
>I bet you are from pol too

[Anonymous No.12365643]

>>12365530
You wonder how i found you out huh?

[Anonymous No.12365656]

>>12365474
>>12362990
>SF&F author listing with ratings and summaries:
>http://greatsfandf.com/authors-full-list.php

[Anonymous No.12365916]

>>12365244
Yeah, she's pretty good.

[Anonymous No.12366043]

>>12363446
sorry, i meant i finished it until the last book, the end of all things, not the last colony. the first three book are worth it the rest is what i said

[Anonymous No.12366272]

i want a fantasy with main character being talented or strong and rich as fuck, not poor and powerless with 100000 luck
pls recommend

[Anonymous No.12366302]

>>12366272
batman

[Anonymous No.12366388]

>>12362990
I'm new. What makes this book so bad? Most real people I talk to seem to like him.

[Anonymous No.12366421]

>>12363295
>>12364447
>>12363111

Shit guys, I finished up through Iron Gold, and the next one isn't coming until at least july. Gimme some recs

[Anonymous No.12366582]

>>12364089
You tempted me into reading this, and I will never forgive you.

[Anonymous No.12366764]

>>12365166
>modern scifi
>good
Ohnonononono

[Anonymous No.12366775]

>>12366272
Conan goes from poor and strong as fuck to rich and strong as fuck.

[Anonymous No.12366782]

>>12366775
yeah but still >poor

[Anonymous No.12366801]

>>12366775
Chad Conan BTFO fat Neets

[Anonymous No.12366831]

>tfw want to write an adventure novel
>all I do is plan out a story, fuss over the little details, and then decide I hate it

[Anonymous No.12366878]

>>12366831
Freewrite. Even if it doesn't turn into your full story, it'll help you find what you do like. Create loose outlines and then follow them until your story goes a different direction, and accept that. You can worry about fiddly details when it's time to revise.

[Anonymous No.12366909]

Anyone else read this? Just binged through it because there was nothing else to read. I didn't like it.

[Anonymous No.12367184]

>>12365441
I thought Super Sales on Superheroes was suppose to be decent. I’m planning on reading it after I finish up my current book.

[Anonymous No.12367219]

>>12366272
>and rich
There’s plenty of stuff to recommend where the characters start out either strong or talented, but there’s not a lot where they’re already going to be rich as fuck.

Being rich as fuck tends to negate a lot of conflict.

[Anonymous No.12367246]

>>12367219
>Being rich as fuck tends to negate a lot of conflict.
that's kinda why i want to see how the author deal with that

[Anonymous No.12367301]

>>12367246
Mostly by having the protagonists immediately lose access to all their wealth.

[Anonymous No.12367372]

>>12364506
It's terrible.

It's basically a lit4X game, it's basically about the author insert playing Masters of Orion or whatever.

[Anonymous No.12367382]

>>12366272
Conan
The Demon Princes
Elric

[Anonymous No.12367387]

>>12367301
but that's no fun

[Anonymous No.12367401]

>>12367372
I'm not surprised, he's obsessed with books about people playing video games or tabletop expys. He laughed for days about one in a D&D sort of world where a pig is fucking another pig and looks at an adventurer and orgasms.

He's retarded, i'm sure of it.

[Anonymous No.12367458]

>>12363370
Don't waste your time with the bob shit. I thought I could endure the onions but it's just too fucking pathetic.

[Anonymous No.12367520]

>>12364490
>Someone else read this
I feel you man, that was some raw unfiltered cuck fetish porn badly hidden behind a thin veil of a Harry Potter ripoff. Like it's not enough to be a cuck, you've got to have other people watch you being cucked. Like some sort of meta-cucking. Stupidest magic system ever too, absolute bullshit designed just to be shitty and uninspiring.

Nice covers though.

[Anonymous No.12367606]

>>12364417
Aren't all books walls of text?

[Anonymous No.12367664]

>>12364098
>>12364166

[Anonymous No.12367670]

>>12367664
What is good about this?
I'm not either of the guys you are quoting.

[Anonymous No.12367671]

>>12363153
After finishing the first book and finding myself in awe of how retardedly infantile the plotting was, I read what happens in the following books.
Basically it's filled with bullshit melodrama of who fucks with whom, friends getting fucked by friends, secret betrayals, young kids toppling the world order over revenge or self interest through 5D chess crap, blablabla. The edgy nature of the the "rebels" and the MC is probably still there.

I would not waste my time with Young Adult tier fiction.

[Anonymous No.12367687]

>>12366764
Fuck off.

[Anonymous No.12367699]

>>12367670
Just read first page of the chapter 1.
It's better written than 99% of fantasy lit.

[Anonymous No.12367728]

Alistair Reynolds: Shit or not, cuck or not?

[Anonymous No.12367734]

>>12365124
What area these ideas about, world building? You need characters with motivations to drive a plot.

[Anonymous No.12367740]

>>12367728
Not not

[Anonymous No.12367858]

>>12364961
And guess what, you'll die before you've read all interesting books written before the year 2000 anyway so that's fine.

[Anonymous No.12367862]

>>12367858
Yep. because they'll get burned for being toxic/racist/pedophobic/etc before i can read them.

[Anonymous No.12367875]

>>12367664
>>12367670

I think I wrote about this on SFFG recently, but I will never get the love for Tigana. Not because it's a bad book per se, but because Kay writes rather similar books and Tigana isn't even the best of them. It has a lot of little dumb things in the vein of "author's first book" (actually his fourth) that he got rid of in his later works. But the real issues with the book are first of all that there is a timeskip in the middle during which time the band of heroes gets welded together. And so we have a dialogue after the timeskip which indicates that some of the characters have done a 180 in their relationships which may not be all that important to the themes of the book, but it's fucking annoying to be simply told that they had great adventures together, are now closer to each other than their families and they have newfound motivations for their lives. At the very least he should have spent a chapter or two with the old aristocrat mage, because his change from a collaborator to rebel would have been interesting not just on the character development side of things, but could have also added to the main theme.

And there might have been even space for that without turning it into a trilogy, since in the author's afterword Kay flat out said he just slapped some of the scenes on at last moment. Unsurprisingly, without it I would never have realized there was supposed to be something deeper going on in there because a number of those scenes seemed just gratuitous and not only the sex scenes.

Further, the epilogue with its "their lives didn't end here" message would have been actually pretty great and even ballsy in execution, if only Kay hadn't spent the previous chapter tying up every single subplot thread and having characters who barely spoke to each other suddenly declare their love and a couple of randoms randomly wander off and commit suicide.

That said I actually kinda liked it, if only because the villain and every scene he was in was cool. Personally I'd recommend the Sarantine Mosaic duology from Kay. That said my love for it is quite personal as I studied the time period it's based on, Yeates' Byzantium is my favourite poem and the whole nature versus civilization dichotomy was done in a way I would have done it myself in my unwritten fantasy epic, so at times the book felt almost tailor-made for me. That said, Kay has in general a flair for melodramatic and some of the shit was pretty over-the-top, the whole nature vs. civilization was ultimately kinda undeveloped and it was downright hilarious how every female character wanted to jump on Crispin's dick despite complaining how he iss ugly, unfashionable and has a horrible personality.

[Anonymous No.12367915]

Can you recommend me something similar to Peter Hamilton Commonwealth and Void series?

[Anonymous No.12367961]

>>12367875
>every female character wanted to jump on Crispin's dick despite complaining how he iss ugly, unfashionable and has a horrible personality.
I have never read this guy, is Crispin a self-insert?

[Anonymous No.12367964]

how is unsong? is it good?

[Anonymous No.12367982]

>>12367875
> if only because the villain and every scene he was in was cool
There was a villain? Brandin was based for fucking up a country in the memory of his boy.
If anything the only villain there is it's a global matriarchat of Quileia which got rekt in the end by another based man Marius.
>That said, Kay has in general a flair for melodramatic and some of the shit was pretty over-the-top
Not in my experience though. Dianora-Baerd-Brandin story was heartbreaking, i literally cried at the end.

[Anonymous No.12368004]

>>12367982
Also i'm 26 years old and unironically think that reading Tigana was one of highlights of my life. It's fucking beatiful. It's like watching lord of the rings movies for the first time. Like first kiss. Like first wet dream.

[Anonymous No.12368016]

>>12368004
>books mostly arranged by height (sort of)
>Beyond this Dark House right between two smaller books
Anon pls

[Anonymous No.12368023]

>>12367964
>is it good
no. worm is the only good web serial ever written

[Anonymous No.12368035]

>>12368004
How is Under Heaven? Fantasy China written by a good author sounds appealing.

[Anonymous No.12368066]

>>12368035
Haven't read it yet.

[Anonymous No.12368163]

>You guys are voting for Knights Radiant. It seems too on the nose for me, is the thing. Like naming Pat’s (Rothfuss) new book “Kvothe has sex” or something like that, you know? Yes, it’s what the book’s about, but it’s very on the nose – it’s exactly what the book’s about. Does that make sense? That’s why it bothers me, but that’s why all the marketing people are like “Yeah, that’s what it’s about! Let’s make it!”

How come Sanderson trashes KK book 2 so much? Was it really that bad?

[Anonymous No.12368255]

>>12362990
I somehow managed to get through this perplexing insult of a book

[Anonymous No.12368259]

>>12367961
He’s talking shit. It was just the villain that jumped him. Then some girl married him even though she doesn’t love him.

[Anonymous No.12368264]

>>12368163
Wtf I love sanderfag now

[Anonymous No.12368267]

>>12366909
Eddings is entry-level fantasy. It's not bad, but it's simple. The evil is very evil and the good is very good. Any problems are easily solved, and all you really need in the end is a magical child who wants to kiss everyone.

[Anonymous No.12368283]

>>12367915
I've seen people recommending the Spiral Wars series by Joel Shepherd. Haven't read it myself.

[Anonymous No.12368301]

Gormenghast
Yes or no?
What can I expect from it?

[Anonymous No.12368458]

>>12366388
It's a turd that's hiding behind years of editing. The main character is an almost comical wish fulfillment for people who were not popular in school and that's really all there is to the book, the "main" story hardly move anywhere. Rothfuss try to make the book seem more mature by adding sex, violence, mystery and his amateurish attempts at poetry/songs.

[Anonymous No.12368462]

>>12367862
Don't be absurd, you can't burn a digital book and Gutenberg alone have almost 60 000 of them. If you're also fine with pirating dead white males you're set for 20 lifetimes of reading.

[Anonymous No.12368473]

>>12368301
Gormenghast
Yes

Great characters, slow story, very visual descriptions and truly unique. It's very much not for everyone.

[Anonymous No.12368554]

>>12365124
There are only readers in this general, any "writer" just procrastinates because he is too busy consuming to produce anything.

[Anonymous No.12368565]

>>12368035
Read Dragon in Chains by Daniel Fox if a chinese fantasy setting sounds appealing to you.

[Anonymous No.12368569]

[Anonymous No.12368574]

>>12368569
>>12368554

[Anonymous No.12368578]

>>12367520
Don't tell me you didn't enjoy grabbing the soul through the pussy.

[Anonymous No.12368603]

>>12365124
I created a world in which the majority of my short stories and novels are set but it's never mentioned by name since it’s the world, the characters don't need a name to know their world is real.
I keep my worldbuilding purposely lacking detail, there's a center and the four directions which each cover a fourth of the world all ending at the edge with the underworld below.
What kind of gods, people, nations or cities populate the world entirely hinges on the story.

[Anonymous No.12368608]

>>12365124
I'm an obsessive worldbuilder so I keep a desktop wiki with all my shit in. Add a little to it every day.

[Anonymous No.12368624]

>>12368574

[Anonymous No.12368773]

>>12368301
Slow as fuck story but awesome characters (the Doctor and Fuchsia are my favourites), great settings, very good writing, drama and humor. I dread the series that is supposed to come out because they'll never do it justice.

[Anonymous No.12368776]

>>12368773
Series?

[Anonymous No.12368785]

>>12368776
I'm too lazy to look it up but apparently the hack Gaiman is going a Gormenghast adaptation for TV/a streaming service.

[Anonymous No.12368789]

So is the trisolaris trilogy secretly an environmentalist anti- communist anti- authoritarian Buddhist manifesto?
It feels like the author is trying to get a message across by wrapping it in a story to slip by the authoritarian censors. You know, like in book 3!

[Anonymous No.12368804]

>>12368785
Wasn't there a TV adaptation years ago?

[Anonymous No.12368829]

>>12365124
>world-building
Cringe.

[Anonymous No.12368831]

>>12368773
>Fuchsia
Her death was stupid, I'm still mad.

[Anonymous No.12368850]

>>12368804
True. I never watched that one because it looked bad.

>>12368831
It really took me by surprise. I didn't expect it all. Almost stopped reading there because it is indeed kind of retarded.

[Anonymous No.12368871]

>>12368850
I mean, I get why it had to happen. Titus had to loose all close connection to the castle to set up the third book but the execution was pants on head tier.

[Anonymous No.12369237]

>>12367606
Anon posted that list in text form a couple times, the veritable wall o' text.
No, it doesn't make any sense.

[Anonymous No.12369367]

>>12363423
I don't, it's one of my favorite series. Honestly I feel bad for the dull soul that can't enjoy ASOIAF.

[Anonymous No.12369458]

What happened to Merwin in The Colour Out of Space?

[Anonymous No.12369467]

>>12368163
He was just joking, probably. I don't think Sanderson would trash Rothfuss and let it be released publicly.

[Anonymous No.12369475]

>“How about this?' Simmon asked me. "Which is worse, stealing a pie or killing Ambrose?"
I gave it a moment's hard thought. "A meat pie, or a fruit pie?”

I can't believe people put this guy on the same levels as Tolkien and to an extent Martin.

[Anonymous No.12369509]

>>12369475
Wait till you read Sanderson. Who's this by the way?

[Anonymous No.12369563]

>>12369509
rothfus. the context is that the MC has just been drugged with a potion that makes him temporarily have no sense of social rules and boundaries. basically its an autism potion, or as i suppose we're supposed to call them now, vaccines

[Anonymous No.12369621]

dammit, I think im going to have to abandon this wandering chef novel idea too. its such a cringeworthy, childish attempt at award bait i wish i had never came up with it.

>>12368789
id argue it's more a diatribe about the dangers of globalization and the value of isolationism

[Anonymous No.12369625]

>>12365244
Megakek, I can't believe someone actually screencapped that mit jeopardy girl.

[Anonymous No.12369667]

>>12369621
Just write a cook book senpai.

[Anonymous No.12369682]

>>12369621

So you want to write Toriko?

[Anonymous No.12369695]

>>12369667
i plan to do that eventually, but unless the book im trying to get published now turns out to be the next alice in wonderland, ive got to keep writing to reach my life goal

[Anonymous No.12369713]

>>12369621
Anon, just write the stupid thing and set it aside. Your first 3 books will be trash and you need to get them out of your system, so stop moaning and write.

[Anonymous No.12369715]

Any books where the main female character gets r*ped (raped) by the main male character? I think there's a rape scene in Thomas Covenant, but I haven't read it yet.

[Anonymous No.12369718]

>>12369682
no, it was more like the alchemist meets huck finn if jim and the titular alchemist were combined into uncle iroh, but the whole thing ends up shamelessly pandering to the board that hands out newbury medals

[Anonymous No.12369719]

>>12369621
>its such a cringeworthy, childish attempt at award bait i wish i had never came up with it.
It is a terrible idea. There's more than a dozen mediocre manga that are exactly that.

[Anonymous No.12369720]

>>12369715
somewhere in realm of the elderlings. don't want to say which one because of spoilers but you should read those books chronologically anyway

[Anonymous No.12369722]

>>12369715
I Have No Mouth, and I Must Scream

[Anonymous No.12369725]

>>12369715
There is, right at the beginning.

[Anonymous No.12369753]

>>12369720
>robin hobb
>assassin's apprentice
>16 books
Oh, man... I don't want to read 16 books of a series about assassins that don't feature any assassinations because of a single r*pe scene... Thanks for the recommendation though.

>>12369722
I think this is way too sophisticated for me.

[Anonymous No.12369765]

>>12369753
there are a few assassinations, especially in the early books. they're really good though so give them a try even if it isn't for the r*ape scene

[Anonymous No.12369783]

>>12369753
>I think this is way too sophisticated for me
It's really not. The only deep thing people seem to miss is that the story actually say that even in the face of unfathomable suffering most people are actually good and want the best for others and people seem to enjoy the story just fine anyway.

[Anonymous No.12369836]

>>12369722
I thought she offered her body willingly to the group

[Anonymous No.12369867]

Just got this. What am I in for?

[Anonymous No.12369888]

I miss him so much

[Anonymous No.12369892]

>The fantasy novel doesn't have Kitchen Sink Elves

[Anonymous No.12369901]

>>12369836
Yeah, in the same way a homeless heroin junkie willingly take another hit. Also, if I remember correctly, she only enjoy fucking the biggus dickus man ape guy, whatever his name is, and sex with the others is mostly abuse.

>>12369867
Thickly veiled colonialism commentary.

[Anonymous No.12369904]

What is the best sci fi book of the 2000s ?

[Anonymous No.12369928]

>>12368850
>>12368785
It had Christopher Lee in it. Amusing to watch a few minutes of, but if you've read the first two Gormenghast novels you can imagine how hard it would be to present a convincing rendition of that gigantic castle.

[Anonymous No.12369932]

>>12369621
You've mutated this idea from a Rat King with flavour molecules manipulation magic, to some chef with rock soup powers. You've been bitching about this novel for at least 2-3 years, just write it and get it over it. Finish it even if it's cringe. You can always go back and edit it again. Stop filling the general with your whining. It's unbefitting a sff aficionado.

[Anonymous No.12369955]

>>12369715
Enjoy

[Anonymous No.12369959]

>>12369765
>trying to shill Hobb
People are unto this shit named series that mislead persons.

[Anonymous No.12369974]

>>12369892
>Kitchen Sink Elves
>don't know wtf he is talking about
>google
>it's a tv trope
Get out.

[Anonymous No.12370007]

Is there a single booktuber who isn't balls to the wall retarded?

[Anonymous No.12370020]

>>12369955
Is the Black Jewels actually good?

[Anonymous No.12370023]

>>12363076
Gahnoo Emacs

[Anonymous No.12370061]

Is there an anon that has the pic related ebook? Bookz doesn't have it yet...

[Anonymous No.12370070]

>>12370061
>Bookz
If you haven't checked mobilism you should consider kysing.

[deleted No.12370122]

>>12370070
Thanks a lot anon! Found it there.

[Anonymous No.12370152]

>>12370007
Thomas Wagner?

[Anonymous No.12370176]

>>12370152
Hello Tommy

[Anonymous No.12370192]

>>12368462
>you can't burn a digital book
Yes you can. You just delete it.

>If you're also fine with pirating dead white males you're set for 20 lifetimes of reading.
That will be removed from my computer and i will be given prison time for each book.

[Anonymous No.12370311]

>>12370192
Yeah lmao, just delete it of the internet. Nothing could be easier.

[Anonymous No.12370317]

>>12362990

Worst book I've ever finished is Ready Player One. Don't know why I didn't drop that shit.

[Anonymous No.12370353]

>>12370311
>he doesn't know about article 13

[Anonymous No.12370395]

>>12370353
>muh copyright laws
Yeeeeeeeah, you might want to take a closer look at the image I posted in my last reply.

[Anonymous No.12370421]

>>12370395
>lol da pirate bay is never going down
Are you really this stupid?

[Anonymous No.12370512]

>>12369955
This list is shit and not at all what I asked for.

[Anonymous No.12370513]

>>12370421
>go to the pirate bay
>it's up
Shocker. Instead of arguing this retarded point I'm going to point out that never in history have the availability of books and information been better. If I wanted to read some controversial and widely banned book, Mein Kampf for example, I could literally start reading within 5 minutes without paying a cent. And without any risk to my social life. The fact that you're mad about whatever you're mad about doesn't change that.

[Anonymous No.12370586]

>>12370513
>look at article 13 legislation
>not yet implemented

You really think nothing is ever going to change? That you'll be anonymous on the internet forever? I fucking wish.

[Anonymous No.12370637]

>>12370586
no one was ever anonymous anywhere
next time you get banned notice how you're callaed by your IP.
there's a difference between that and enforcing functional limitations that could never be deal with.

[Anonymous No.12370646]

>>12370637
So article 13 cannot be implemented and you know this how?

[Anonymous No.12370650]

>>12370586
Of course things have changed, as I've already pointed out things are way better now than they were only a couple of years ago. The same goes for anonymity. You've never been truly anonymous on the internet but the amount of easily available ways to conceal your IP and encrypt your messages have never been larger.

[Anonymous No.12370670]

>>12370020
It's got GRI galore.

[Anonymous No.12370674]

>>12370061
Why would you continue after how book two ended, and book three resolved it? That series is needless padding. I recommend people to stop at book one.

[Anonymous No.12370680]

>>12370650
>as I've already pointed out things are way better now than they were only a couple of years ago.
If you're a complete degenerate, yeah.

[Anonymous No.12370682]

>>12370512
then fuck off. go get your rocks off from anime

[Anonymous No.12370696]

>>12370646
>>12370650
Also, I just wanted to say that I fully support your opposition against Article 13 and EU's abysmal attempts at regulating the web, it's beyond retarded. But one step back does not change a forwards trend.

>>12370680
I see you're bringing out the heavy arguments, how can I ever recover?

[Anonymous No.12370713]

>>12370696
>But one step back does not change a forwards trend.
What forward trend?

>I see you're bringing out the heavy arguments, how can I ever recover?
No really, tell us how much better things are than they were a couple of years ago. How is free speech on social media doing?

[Anonymous No.12370730]

>>12363423
It's enjoyable but not realistic like people claim it is.

[Anonymous No.12370732]

>>12370713
Why am I getting pol vibes from you?
Please don't bring out any "stats" or infographs.

[Anonymous No.12370739]

>>12370713
>What forward trend?
Read my posts again. Look for keywords like anonymity, information and availability.

>How is free speech on social media doing?
FUCK NIGGERS
Seems fine to me desu

[Anonymous No.12370749]

>>12370732
>pol provides evidence for their assertions
>those evil nazis
whut

[Anonymous No.12370756]

>>12370739
Ah i see, you're just being a faggot.

[Anonymous No.12370770]

>>12370756
Once again, how can I ever recover?

[Anonymous No.12370826]

>>12370674
>he actually got after the middle of the first book
That book was such a mess I was glad I started skimming half-way through and then jumped straight to the end to see that he had indeed (as I thought he would) killed the girl. Again.

Why would anyone read that shit to the end?

[Anonymous No.12370837]

What are the five quintessential /sffg/ books?

[Anonymous No.12370852]

>>12370682
Don't be mad. I told 2 truths. That list is shit, and the books there do not have the main character r*ping the girls.

Honestly, that chart fails even as a general "approved" GRI list. I guess it could pass as a best-selling GRI chart, instead. It's like saying The Kingkiller Chronicles is /sffg/ approved.

[Anonymous No.12370878]

>>12370837
Name of the Wind
Game of Thrones
Harry Potter
A Sanderson novel
Lord of the Rings

[Anonymous No.12370904]

>the aiel are super badass warrior ninjas that no army can defeat!
>in reality they are braindead retards who rely on zerg rushes

How were they ever considered a threat? Jordan didn't think this through

[Anonymous No.12370909]

Why do Rothfuss and Martin think they can get away with not releasing anything for years on end? Won't the hype be worse after years of waiting for what will likely be subpar?

[Anonymous No.12370926]

>>12370826
That anon read it to book 5.
I read book one, tried book two, and read reviews for book 3. Whited is a hack

[Anonymous No.12370940]

>>12369955
We really need a new GRI chart.

[Anonymous No.12370980]

>>12370837
Time Enough for Love
Time Enough for Love
To Sail Beyond the Sunset
To Sail Beyond the Sunset
The Broken Sword

[Anonymous No.12370989]

>>12370909
No,because redditors don't care about quality,they just care about posting epic memes and shitty fanfics about their favorite characters

[Anonymous No.12371004]

>>12370980
>reading Time Enough for Love twice
Wew lad

[Anonymous No.12371008]

>>12370940
We'd need to set some bar. There's all kinds of indie shit self-published on amazon today that if we were to include it all it would be the same as no chart at all.

We could say no self-published works, but then we would be taking out some very good books, and including some very bad ones. And other restraints would be even more subjective.

[Anonymous No.12371018]

>>12370904
Jordan didn't think much of his world through.

[Anonymous No.12371040]

>>12370837
Nine Princes in Amber
The Guns of Avalon
Sign of the Unicorn
The Hand of Oberon
The Courts of Chaos

[Anonymous No.12371092]

>>12364490
I prefer the show

[Anonymous No.12371102]

>>12370837
BotNS
Hyperion
Blindsight
LotR
Conan

[Anonymous No.12371114]

>>12370837
Foundation
Dune
LOTR
Silmarillion
Starship Troopers.

[Anonymous No.12371146]

>>12371004
I only read the part where lazarus fucks his mom.

[Anonymous No.12371165]

>>12371008
Agreed,maybe next thread i'll make one

[Anonymous No.12371175]

>>12371040
Based.

[Anonymous No.12371219]

>>12362990
Why the hate for NotW and WMF? I thought they were generally well liked. I just finished WMF and thought it was a bit indulgent but otherwise a solid enough read. Is this just autism going against the grain?

[Anonymous No.12371227]

>>12371219

[Anonymous No.12371247]

>>12368578
the only good part of the book tbqh. Of course the girls who survive become epic baddesses and get revenge which ruins it later. The rape and murder scene is actually the best part of the whole series though. Fuck that whole super genius chatroom idea.

[Anonymous No.12371260]

>>12369715
Stoner

[Anonymous No.12371274]

>>12371219
It's a controversial author because he is entry level for a lot of normalfags and represents the worst of a sector of the Internet (witty, SJW, pro LGBT, etc).
Imo, the most entertaining aspects of The Name of the Wind are the results of plebeian tropes (magic system, antihero Gary Stu, magic college) and his writing style gets old pretty fast.
The second book is worse. His prose is less polished, the plot advances at a slower pace than the 1st book. The Mc becomes even more of Gary Stu and some argue the plot doesn't advance at all from that terrible super long act with the Sex goddess.
Aside from these 1800 pages, he is known solely for his false flagging PC opinions, yet he acts as if he was Tolkien reencarnation and the retards think the series has the potencial of a new Harry Potter.

Harry Potter is shit in my book btw.

[Anonymous No.12371286]

>>12363161
I (finally) started reading The Book of the New Sun, and the gloomy tone and description of the architecture of the Citadel instantly made think: Did Nihei read this?

It cannot be only me wondering that

[Anonymous No.12371291]

>>12371274
the gary stu part isnt as much a problem as wish fulfilment can be fun to read as a guilty pleasure. I also like the sort of sciency magic system as an autist. What makes Rothfuss so awful is how he writes romance. The romance subplot in KKC is just awful, to the point that it ruins the whole series for me. I could tolerate all his other faults if the romace subplot was either not in the book or handled better.

[Anonymous No.12371311]

>>12371227
nailed it.

[Anonymous No.12371319]

>>12371146
Unironically the best part.

[Anonymous No.12371352]

Someone here recommended me the Count to a Trillion series by John C. Wright forever ago
Now I've made it through all of it, interesting and fun read.

Did anyone else feel like the Author was gradually of losing his minds as the books went on?
I mean not because he is a fundamentalist, but for real

[Anonymous No.12371370]

>>12371352
Is it better than Golden Age or Chronicles of Chaos by him?

[Anonymous No.12371386]

>>12371274
>>12371291
I'm with this anon somewhat. The Gary Stu shit had some flaws. I'm all for wish fulfillment and the hero being the guy that learns faster and performs better. I wasn't a huge fan of when it went against the science nature of magic established earlier though. They made it seem as though sympathy had hard limits a human could endure, which the MC went passed a couple of times, with exhaustion and chills being the only noticeable side effect.
The romance is eh though. I didn't think it was too bad til the end of the 2nd, when he was still weebing like a neckbeard after railing the sex god faerie for a year. This is when it was getting borderline white knight self inserty.
I didn't notice much SJW/LGBT shit besides the couple of gay dudes owning the music club. I wasn't really looking for it though.
I wasn't a huge fan of the whole Harry Potter feel during the University bits, but there's some decent stuff in there: the workshop, the naming teacher.

[Anonymous No.12371434]

>>12371352
>interesting and fun read
Best part of the series was it made me feel gigabrain for remembering all the parts of the mythology it constructed all the way to the end, as a lot of it was frequently brought up much later.
That and actually paying attention, following the everything that was going on was stimulating
Books that makes me feel "smart", simply for not getting confused, like it

[Anonymous No.12371446]

>>12371434
>Books that makes me feel "smart"
Let me guess, you're a big fan of Wolfe and Gormenghast.

[Anonymous No.12371449]

>criticizing Kingkiller
>not mentioning the absurd peoples
>Kvothe's own pseudo-gypsies who are all virtuoso musicians and all share a common moral code set in stone
>the "exotic" sex ninjas that secretly live in the mountains

[Anonymous No.12371466]

I'll read the first fantasy book suggested

[Anonymous No.12371468]

>>12371466
the library at mount char

[Anonymous No.12371474]

>>12371449
idt they lived secretly in the mountains. pretty much everyone knew of them, where they lived, etc. they were just regular ninjas. but white

[Anonymous No.12371479]

>>12369563
>basically its an autism potion, or as i suppose we're supposed to call them now, vaccines
kek, best description of that potion I've read by far. I'm stealing this.

[Anonymous No.12371536]

I finished Shadow Stars.
I am back on Midnight Tides full-time until I'm done. I'm only at the first(?) Crippled God chapter

[Anonymous No.12371596]

>>12371468
based.

[Anonymous No.12371607]

>>12371446
Should I be ashamed?

[Anonymous No.12371612]

>>12371607
Yes.

[Anonymous No.12371624]

>>12371219

[Anonymous No.12371625]

>>12368608
>desktop wiki
Intrigued. Examples? Is it a program like "Zim"?

[Anonymous No.12371631]

>>12371291
The books would improve dramatically if Denna was removed. Not only is she Worst Girl but the books spend entirely too much time on her.

[Anonymous No.12371634]

>>12371446
>he doesnt understand wolfe and peake
staypleb

[Anonymous No.12371644]

>>12371631
There are very few characters whose removal would not have improved the books desu.

[Anonymous No.12371654]

>>12367728

Not shit but a cuck

[Anonymous No.12371663]

>>12371468
>Carolyn was once a normal American. Since the death of her parents, however, she has been living in a vast library with several other children, being tutored by a man they call Father. She's not quite like normal Americans anymore. She loves guacamole and brownies, but isn't quite sure why her Christmas sweater, bicycle shorts, and galoshes don't constitute a normal outfit.

>At times, Carolyn has wondered if her cruel tutor is god... and if it is possible to overthrow him. Now, Father is missing, and the library stands undefended. As armies of unimaginably strong creatures are drawn to the overwhelming power of the library, Carolyn uses a duffel bag full of money (and some light bribery) to enlist a bewildered American by the name of Steve to help her.

dude really wrote his own novel's wikipedia entry, huh

[Anonymous No.12371680]

>>12371624
Is this actually something he was a part of or a desperate fan piece?

[Anonymous No.12371683]

>>12371654
yeah there's weird alien gender shit in some of them right? probably horribly cringy sex scenes as well?

But then again, even Heinlein is guilty of some pretty heinous acts of literature.

[Anonymous No.12371684]

>>12369888
m- mu- muh-- M'Hael

[Anonymous No.12371693]

>>12371631
Deanna is definitely worst girl. Is best girl the Adem girl who sukkd the anger out of him?

[Anonymous No.12371697]

>>12371680
>No, no, it's fine. i'm here because a bunch of large hearted geeks donated a ton of money to my charity fund-raiser, Worldbuilders.

>annnnd as a stretch goal, i agreed to chat with you guys about your sexualities.

I found it on his twitter, it's legit. he wrote the comic and most likely guided the art direction for the characters.

[Anonymous No.12371704]

>>12371624

[Anonymous No.12371716]

>>12369955
Wild wastes is actually a Corruption of Champions book isnt it?

[Anonymous No.12371718]

>>12371697
What in the fuck? There wasn’t a chat so much as espousing degeneracy.

[Anonymous No.12371760]

>>12369955
I bought The Fifth Season on a whim
thought it was wholesome

[Anonymous No.12371766]

>>12362990
Magic 2.0 was pretty bad. I read it for book club. Read like something out of the 1980s. Hella dated and generic references (and actually not that many of them... HP and LotR mostly), but the author made the protagonist millennial age and living in current day (2000s). lol
Want by Cindy Pon was pretty fluffy but it had an interesting premise.
Red Rising was pretty bad but I kind of want to finish the series anyway because the fight scenes are exciting...
Who Fears Death was fun for a while but totally fell apart in the end.

I've read some bad scifi due to being in a scifi book club. =^_^=


Currently reading Best of Apex Magazine collection, much better than most scifi I've read recently...

[Anonymous No.12371792]

What are good fantasy books with a Greco-Roman, Mediterranean, Middle-Eastern or ancient egypt backdrop. Crusades are fine too.

[Anonymous No.12371812]

>>12371624
I always pictured the black characters as Italians.

[Anonymous No.12371853]

>>12371634
>using that pic
Daffy is a poseur, and so are you. You are pseudo intellectual

[Anonymous No.12371863]

>>12371760
You haven't reached the loli patting and leg breaking yet.

[Anonymous No.12371904]

>>12364089
>cant think of an original story
>oh ill just rip off adventure time

what a hack

[Anonymous No.12371906]

>>12371624
I thought for sure this was a parody. Can't believe this is for real.

[Anonymous No.12371968]

>>12369904

Blindsight

[Anonymous No.12372056]

I wanted to ask for a book recommendation but I can't even articulate my current craving, just got some vague statements like "not too much X but a little is fine"

Is this what being a woman is like?

[Anonymous No.12372063]

>>12372056
I was gonna say you also need an insatiable craving for cock, but you already have that

[Anonymous No.12372074]

>>12372063
That's it, I'm gonna stop taking my estrogen shots

[Anonymous No.12372095]

>>12371792
Prince of nothing

[Anonymous No.12372283]

I want to start writing fiction again after college. But I want to start reading for personal enjoyment again first.

Recommend me somebody who writes "sword and sorcery with worldbuilding" like Moorcock or Gemmell who isn't Moorcock or Gemmell.

[Anonymous No.12372294]

What fantasy series has the most moments that feel genuinely badass, rather than tryhard or forced?

[Anonymous No.12372369]

>>12372294
>genuinely badass

[Anonymous No.12372383]

>>12371624
Why didn't you stop him /lit/?

[Anonymous No.12372407]

>>12372383
We tried and we were called nazis for it and told to go back to /pol/.

[Anonymous No.12372415]

>>12371716
Basically, but not as much corruption

[Anonymous No.12372470]

I tried to make the new thread three hours ago, but hiro has the site telling me "recaptha mistype". Can someone else make it please.
Remember the newest previous goes first.

[Anonymous No.12372503]

>>12372470
No. This is the end of the line for /sffg/. And with the end of /sffg/, the coming of the 5th Age of Darkness shall commence.

[Anonymous No.12372508]

>>12372369
You know exactly what I mean. You just hate fun or have convinced yourself you have to pretend to.

[Anonymous No.12372510]

>>12372503
sad face

[Anonymous No.12372513]

>>12372503
>i will be able to socialize

[Anonymous No.12372536]

>>12371853
>talkin smack about the based reaction pics
shit taste confirmed

[Anonymous No.12372538]

>>12372508
I can't tell if this is satire.

[Anonymous No.12372545]

>>12372503
finally. freedom

[Anonymous No.12372828]

Well I got a new chart. Guess I will make the new thread after I finish taking a dump. Can't make the new thread by tablet posting.

[Anonymous No.12372876]

>>12371227
Absolutely Based

[Anonymous No.12372886]

>>12371624
ohnonononononono, is this real? I thought Fela was supposed to be a beautyqueen? How did Kvothe carry her out of the fire is she's so fat?

[Anonymous No.12372925]

>>12371760
>Dude,my son is dead,lmao
Wow deep

[Anonymous No.12373001]

>>12369932
Anon, your disappointment was the final straw.

I have begun the first chapter, and dear god it is actually funny

[Anonymous No.12373073]

New thread
>>12373069
>>12373069
>>12373069
>>12373069