OULIPO

[Anonymous No.12361691]

Just finished reading Queneau's 'Exercises in Style' and I am probably going to start on Harry Mathew's 'The Sinking of the Odradek Stadium' sometime soon.

Does /lit/ like Oulipo?

Can you see a future for the Oulipo movement in the 21st century? - the usage of constraints has, I think, a great deal of applicability and is still quite interesting but all of the significant Oulipo writers are, by this point, ancient or dead.

[Anonymous No.12361806]

>>12361691
God almighty that thigh

[Anonymous No.12361810]

>YWN know what it's like to have sex with a milf

[Anonymous No.12361816]

Evil picture.
Evil people.

[Anonymous No.12361822]

>>12361691
oh dios mio

[Anonymous No.12361854]

>blue eyeshadow

[Anonymous No.12361867]

>Exercises in Style
In English? How did that work?

Also, christ I wanna eat her out so bad, bet she sports a massive bush between those thighs.

[Anonymous No.12361870]

>>12361691
In a roundabout way 'pataphysical enterprises ARE the 'literary' future (if there is one) but (you) know this already.

[Anonymous No.12362376]

Normally I don't fall for jezebel posting but this one has upped his game Lord Jesus

[Anonymous No.12362641]

>>12361691
those ball torture shoes tho

[Anonymous No.12362649]

Me in the back

[Anonymous No.12362915]

>>12361691
Oh my God *licks* *slurps the leg*

[Anonymous No.12362968]

>>12361691
Im currently reading "witch grass" by quenau and i must say its 10000 times better than early french surrealism like raymond roussel "locus solus"

[Anonymous No.12363001]

>>12361691
m-mommy

[Anonymous No.12363036]

>>12361691
I absolutely love OuLiPo and while I can't straight up answer your question about OuLiPo in the XXI century, I can assure you the group still exists, and there's this professor my gf had who's a math guy who started studying Perec and Borges and decided he'll become an author, I'm soon to delve into his shit and shall return with any more info.
>>12361867
Styles and movements are somewhat universal, and the more specific styles (slangs and etc.) can be very easily adapted, since the discrepancies in the slangs are less important than being slang int he first place.

Now, since we're having this thread where everyone is ignoring the main topic, can someone upload some Harry Matthews and Jacques Roubaud epubs? Already visited the usual spots, only Tlooth by Matthews and some smaller works by Roubaud.

[Anonymous No.12363063]

>>12362968
most of the 19th century surrealists are kinda subpar and I never understood the hype (specially once we consider how they influenced pretty much all of my favourite artists, literary or not, in the 20th century). I attribute it to poor translation (despite at this point having read Daumal, Roussll, Jarry and etc. in three languages).
A Night of Serious Drinking and Faustroll are p. good though.

[Anonymous No.12363084]

Oulipo was a necessary, if ultimately frivolous, literary movement. It has almost zero re-reading value for me. Once you understand the gimmick, it is over. It’s like concrete poetry in that sense. Doing Oulipo exercises is important to grow as a writer, but as an endgame it sucks balls. So arid and nerdy.

[Anonymous No.12363159]

>>12363084
You say it as if understanding the entirety of the gimmicks of Life: A User's Manual couldn't land you a teaching position on pretty much any literary department whatsoever.
It's not arid (of course it's nerdy), but one thing that's amazing about at least Perec and Calvino, though easily present on Queneau, Roubaud and other writers, is how lush and vivid these books are DESPITE the nerdiness. I bet you think guys like Delilo, Paul Auster or Robe-Grillet, producing art completely devoid of joy simply because they see joy as childish and naive, are the real fucking authors, when they're mostly stunted teenagers unable to understand what's so serious about life and doubling down on the effort.
OULIPO is about the joy of literature, of language and pure play. It was frivolous and even worse, not necessary at all, but that's because art is frivolous and unecessary, and yet, we produce and consume it out of pure joy and aesthetic passion (pleasure is too small a term for what I'm trying to describe). Yeah, sure, everyone dies, men kill each other, blah blah blah, but we're also able to transcend this through both play and art, and OULIPO is a reminder that both things are part of life.

[Anonymous No.12363242]

>>12363159
It’s not pure play though. Pure play is more unstructured. Rather than playing with constraint and convention, they make it sacred. And the results are usually devoid of great human truths. I would like Oulipo a lot better if the movement was a parody of constraint rather than its sacralization.

[Anonymous No.12363318]

>>12363242
I believe you're overestimating the seriousness a bit. The whole thing is done in the tradition of the Pataphysics College (of which most OuLiPo members were also part of, Queneau being one of the highest authorities ever). Everyone was willing to bend and distort constraints when needed, and "great human truths" is a huge fucking meme anyway, are you seriously implying La Disparition is pure exercise? Maybe familiarize yourself at least a little bit with Perec and stop hoping he bashes your head with his themes and preocupations beyond the obvious aesthetic and formal ones.