/sffg/ - Science Fiction & Fantasy General

[Anonymous No.12349168]

general slave is still on holiday edition

>Whats the first book you read in 2019?
>How is it?

Monthly Reading for January: A Scanner Darkly by Philip K Dick

Fantasy:
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General:
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Flowchart:
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SCIENCE FICTION
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General:
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NPR's Top 100 Science Fiction & Fantasy Books:
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SF&F author listing with ratings and summaries:
http://greatsfandf.com/authors-full-list.php

Previously:

>>12335944
>>12322234
>>12300038
>>12284550

[Anonymous No.12349186]

i should thank the anon who recommended me mother of learning
i read those 711k words for 2 days shutting myself in my room

[Anonymous No.12349193]

>>12349168
>op didn't fuck up the general
Impressive

[Anonymous No.12349232]

For those interesting in pirating the book: http://b-ok.cc/book/878958/0c476b

Disclaimer: I have not yet looked at the epub, might as well be midget porn.

[Anonymous No.12349330]

Asking again if there's any sff books where the protags don't make it in time and some world ending shit starts happening.
Something that'll make me feel like the antagonist won in the end.

[Anonymous No.12349342]

>>12349168
>Whats the first book you read in 2019?
The name of the wind

>How is it?
Twilight for neckbeards.

[Anonymous No.12349345]

>>12349330
dune 2

[Anonymous No.12349366]

hey /lit/ I need your help
I'm looking for a specific fantasy novel
I can't remember author or title
the protagonists were a male dwarf and human female
iirc her name starts with an E and was 4 letters long
it was a quite genereic fantysy novel, so google was not helping

[Anonymous No.12349729]

>>12349330
Prince of Nothing

[Anonymous No.12349736]

Oh cool I'm early for once..... So uh, now what?

[Anonymous No.12349745]

>>12349342
really? friend of mine recommended it to me, was about to try it out

what's bad about it exactly?

[Anonymous No.12349809]

>>12349745
you have a shitty friend

[Anonymous No.12349839]

>>12349745
>what's bad about it exactly?
Just about everything.

>>12349809
I got it from a co-worker. There are apparently lots of numales who love this book.

[Anonymous No.12349848]

>>12349745

[Anonymous No.12349857]

HAS ANYONE WRITTEN BOOK ABOUT DRAGONS BUT IN COMPUTER. PLZ TELL ME

[Anonymous No.12349870]

Pardon?

[Anonymous No.12349896]

>>12349857
Blue mage raised by dragons

[Anonymous No.12349898]

>>12349857
Iron Dragons' Daughter
It's dragons but in an extremely depressing modern fantasy setting. It made me sad.

[Anonymous No.12349907]

>>12349896
>>12349898
THE DRAGONS ARE IN COMPUTER?

[Anonymous No.12349973]

>>12349848

[Anonymous No.12349981]

>tfw I was unironically gifted NotW by my partners ex-boyfriend
>tfw he then blocked me on social media before I could tell him why it's shit
I don't know what to make of that.

>>12349848
>Devi is a whore
>Denna not mentioned
>fae that care about consent
kek

[Anonymous No.12349996]

Is Dragonlance good?

[Anonymous No.12350000]

>>12349981
>I don't know what to make of that.
It's his way of telling you to enjoy getting cucked.

[Anonymous No.12350022]

>>12350000
Checked. I want to say that it's the other way around but I can't argue with quads.

[Anonymous No.12350110]

>>12349981
>partners
Even faggots don't like it? Wow.

[Anonymous No.12350140]

>>12349848
Yikes

[Anonymous No.12350222]

>>12349996
YES, GOD DAMMIT!! FUCK!!! BEST FANTASY UNIVERSE!!! SUCK MY DICK!!!
(ne , seriously it's an amazing fantasy universe AND THERE ARE SO MANY BOOKS I'M CUMMING!!!) start witch chronicles then Tales then legnds

[Anonymous No.12350294]

>>12349168
Starting A Scanner Darkly today

[Anonymous No.12350379]

[Anonymous No.12350400]

Any books that explore deep space in a sci fi setting? I'd like to see acute descriptions of weird phenomena and the violence of the void.

[Anonymous No.12350402]

>>12350379
based

[Anonymous No.12350458]

I’ve been looking for a copy of the broken sword at every library book sale and used book store I can get to for a few months now and no luck. It feels like cheating to buy it from an amazon or eBay seller. Frustrating.

[Anonymous No.12350623]

i can't do this sffg.

it took me two and a half years to write and edit this novel, and I can't submit it. its horrible. the entire last quarter is so cringeworthy I want to delete it. this is supposed to be the greatest accomplishment of my life so far, and im ashamed of it

[Anonymous No.12350668]

>>12349848
Damn, Fela looks like THAT?
>all the descriptions of women as being beautiful are just white-knighting
Also what the fuck, low self-esteem Sim falls for the yellow fever meme and his gook still wants to have an open relationship and get spitroasted by Chads, hard yikes

[Anonymous No.12350673]

>>12350623
Write another one, there's almost no way it will be worse.

[Anonymous No.12350726]

>>12350673
at times like this, I wish there was some kind of mantra I could chant that would completely empty my mind of doubt

[Anonymous No.12350874]

>>12350726
> I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.

[Anonymous No.12350974]

>>12349330
Maybe Elric of Melnibone

[Anonymous No.12351018]

>>12350726
>The logos is without beginning or end. The logos is without beginning or end.

[Anonymous No.12351045]

>>12349996
Yeah,it's pretty comfy,the first trilogy has a pretty shitty ending tho

[Anonymous No.12351087]

I liked The Book of the New Sun for the longest time, but then I read Hyperion. And instantly re-read it. It's my favourite now, though I wish it had less cringy action sequences. Does anyone know more of these end-of-the-universe style books that don't explain it all away? I love a bit of mystery in my books.

thank

[Anonymous No.12351132]

>>12349168
Recommend me some good Bizarro Fiction

[Anonymous No.12351148]

>start this
>cliche as fuck
Does it get better or did I get memed

[Anonymous No.12351166]

>>12350668
Since when is Fela a gook? Aren't they supposed to be Italian looking? At least that's what I've gathered from reading.

[Anonymous No.12351192]

>>12351148
>did I get memed
Yes,don't worry it happens to everyone

[Anonymous No.12351489]

>>12351148
If you don't like getting memed you should read Masters of Rome.

[Anonymous No.12351550]

>>12351489
But this is fantasy general. Not lazy historical wish fulfillment general.

[Anonymous No.12351715]

>>12349745
It’s not as bad as /sffg/ memes it out to be, but I wouldn’t call it good either. The world building is pretty good, and the magic system is neat if you’re into it, also the larger story being set up is promising. However the main character is Mary Sue self insert for the author who manages to be a chad badass while being a cuck.

The second book is where things really come off the rails and you realize Rothfuss has no idea where to actually take his story and keeps trying to sell you on just how awesome the main character is in the stupidest of scenarios. By the time you hit the super secret not ninjas village that only Kvothe is allowed to visit- oh and the ninjas are totally cool with sex, like hey man let’s take care of that boner so you can be a better ninja cool- you realize Rothfuss is a hack.

[Anonymous No.12351716]

When should I read the Kharkanas trilogy in the grand scheme of Malazan?
Also, where to start with Guy Gavriel Kay? I got Tigana on my shelf, should I just pick up?

[Anonymous No.12351748]

>>12349168

MFW I fucked up the general last time

[Anonymous No.12351770]

Is it okay to start a story with an expository legend as long as it's no more than a paragraph in length?

[Anonymous No.12351773]

>>12351550
>lazy
Silly.

[Anonymous No.12351804]

>>12351770
Post it

[Anonymous No.12351835]

>>12351804
I'm trying to decide if I should write it. I guess I'll write it now and hope it doesn't turn out shitty.

That said, it probably will

[Anonymous No.12351889]

Tell me about this book, /sffg/ is it good?
Many reviews say it's a feminist take on Arthurian legend. I'm not an assblasted /pol/tard, I don't care if it's feminist if it's a good book.

[Anonymous No.12351920]

>>12351716
>I got Tigana on my shelf, should I just pick up?
It's a good starting point.

[Anonymous No.12351968]

>>12351889
I don't have time for a lengthy reply so I'll just say that of all the fantasy books I've read it's the book that have managed to make magic feel most magical and beautiful.

It's feminist in the sense that there are many female characters with active roles, but I don't find it hamfisted at all.

[Anonymous No.12351993]

>>12350623
At least you admit it needs work unlike a bunch of ppl who think their shit don't stink. If you know what's bad then you can try to fix it

[Anonymous No.12352018]

>>12351889
It's not that political. It just focusses on the women of the Arthur myths. This book should've been a winner for me fire several reasons but i didn't like it and stopped halfway.

[Anonymous No.12352097]

What's some good comedic fantasy now that I've finished Discworld?

[Anonymous No.12352197]

>>12351166
"olive skinned", so yeah that was a reasonable inference on your part. Not vibrant enough though apparently.

[Anonymous No.12352433]

>>12351804
It's pretty shit, but at the very least, I finally started it. I can always replace it later though

>There is a tale that used to be passed around the dinner table on winter nights – an old legend left over from a time when that table was bare. It's a story about barren fields and hungry cities, starving children and farmers thin – but more importantly it's a story about an old wizard with a pan on his back, and the time long ago where for one night, the beggar, the tailor and the banker broke bread.

>That there was only one stale loaf in the whole of the town made little difference, for with his knife, the wizard cut every man a slice thick as his fist. That there were no potatoes in the fields was of hardly any consequence, for with a fire from nowhere, the wizard baked the rocks golden-brown. That stick-thin children lay dead in the streets mattered little at all, for with a sip from his flask, the wizard brought them back to the world of the living. The town feasted all day and sang all night, and then in the morning the the wizard said goodbye.

>It would be a pleasure to say that the famine ended that day, but truth is rarely as wonderful as fiction. It is the haze of memory that makes wizards of honest men, but true kindness is something that is rarely forgotten. So old-timers spin stories of the wizard who saved them, and they call him The Wandering Chef.

>>12352097
It's a more crass sort of humor, but John Dies At The End is pretty decent, and it's not nearly as brainless as it seems at first.

Personally, I just like how it perfectly adapted "we are legion" to the modern vernacular.
>"We're called shitload, 'cause there's a shitload of us."

[Anonymous No.12352487]

>>12351889
I wanted to read this book once, but now I never will since I found out that the author is a degenerate piece of shit that was sexually abusing her kids.

[Anonymous No.12352517]

>>12352433
Don't know the setting but 'chef' is a French word and if it's fantasy not set on Earth, that single word choice would break my immersion.

[Anonymous No.12352529]

>>12352197
plus she's supposed to have bright eyes, so I pictured something like pic rel. Where do people come up with this crap? Also they made Deoch a negro? Since when? The only people clearly described as some form of "browns" are the Caeldish, like Wilem. Why are people so dumb?

[Anonymous No.12352618]

>>12352517
its earth with all the serial numbers filed off so people don't bug me about historical inaccuracies

[Anonymous No.12352637]

>>12352487
Is that because you think it reflects on the quality of her work? Because she is dead so it's not like you would be giving her money or anything.

[Anonymous No.12352706]

>>12352487
Just pirate it. And maybe give her kids money to go to therapy or something.

[Anonymous No.12352744]

>>12352637
>>12352706
Just having that in my mind make me want to retch. I typically have no problem enjoying good books written by authors I find repulsive on a personal level(ASOIAF and Kingkiller Chronicles for example), but this is a whole different level. I thing just being aware that the author of this book did such things would mentally stop me from enjoying the content.

[Anonymous No.12352756]

>>12352744
If you can't separate art from the artist, then it's okay to move on. I won't oblige you to read something that upsets you.

[Anonymous No.12352765]

Fuck I accidentally read a book whose sequel isn't out yet

[Anonymous No.12352770]

>>12352744
Fair enough.
Incidentally, why are you repulsed by George Martin?

[Anonymous No.12352783]

>Whats the first book you read in 2019?
Truthwitch
>How is it?

It was alright, if nothing else it stood out for having incredibly powerful prophetic heroes who barely use their magic in the first book.
Not gonna rush to read the sequel but I'll probably download it next time I add books to my kindle

[Anonymous No.12352792]

>>12352770
He just strikes me as a perverted fat fuck, and full of himself. I avoid people like that in personal life. But it's still not so bad as to stop me from enjoying his work.

A kid molester is a different level.

[Anonymous No.12352806]

>>12349168
>>Whats the first book you read in 2019?
7Killers by Gu Long.
>>How is it?
Very strange. But also familiar in a way. It's like a mystery shounen series.

[Anonymous No.12352813]

>>12351148
Check out Bayne's Climb. It's fairly short and to the point.

[Anonymous No.12352816]

>>12352792
>He just strikes me as a perverted fat fuck, and full of himself.
kek
Not sure I could argue against that.

[Anonymous No.12352848]

I’m reading a Brief History of time

[Anonymous No.12352880]

what are some books with genius mcs who dont spend most of it out of their element? I've already read enders game and the name of the wind, but the three body problem didn't scratch the itch because its scientists trying and failing to play politics

[Anonymous No.12352903]

>>12349330
Worm, the sequel is set after the apocalypse and everything is fucked. Its a web serial thought

[Anonymous No.12352906]

>>12352097
>>12352433
Sounds fun, cheers.

[Anonymous No.12352926]

>tfw I was revisiting asoiaf, checking out the wikia, remembering all the good times I had with that series
fuck it makes me sad, it had so much promise. Sure, it wasn't Tolkien level worldbuilding but the subtle nuances of foreshadowing and the mysterium surrounding it were great. I've basically forgotten everything that happened and it makes me feel sad and nostalgic.
I remember having stupid asoiaf theory threads on /tv/ before /lit/ was even a board about retarded shit like azor ahai being a dayne and quaithe being arya from the future

[Anonymous No.12352929]

>>12352848
good shit. that book sent me down a rabbit hole years ago and ive been reading about physics ever since. I just wish I hadn't been too dumb for the physics program in college

[Anonymous No.12353036]

>>12352880
Prince of Nothing

[Anonymous No.12353058]

>>12352880
Red Rising, Prince of nothing

[Anonymous No.12353090]

I want to read a book with qt faeries, what can you recommend /sffg/?

[Anonymous No.12353096]

How do I get off my ass and write, /lit/? Depression has left my life in some ceaseless pit of flipping through 4chan. I tell myself I'll write, but I spend every day working and browsing 4chan.

I just want to tell a story.

[Anonymous No.12353122]

>>12353096
sometimes you just have to force yourself. if you can set a small daily goal (I did 500 words on my first novel) and hold yourself to it long enough to build up momentum you can eventually finish something.

Personally, I've been dealing with the same thing lately, but today I made this >>12352433

just give it a shot

[Anonymous No.12353206]

>>12350623
post it

[Anonymous No.12353361]

>>12353096
I agree with >>12353122. Turn off wifi on the router. I used a timer instead of word count.

[Anonymous No.12353392]

>>12349996
Just read Death Gate Cycle instead

[Anonymous No.12353547]

>>12349981
>my partner
>ex-boyfriend
>he
Seeing as only guys use sffg, you are a literal faggot.

[Anonymous No.12353601]

>>12353547
>not being bi
Pleb.

[Anonymous No.12353641]

>>12353601
>actually wanting to fuck a dude
I would fuck passable tranny because I'm attracted to females. I'm not looking to fuck a dude.

[Anonymous No.12353642]

Read the first book of forever war series, I liked it but is it worth continuing?

[Anonymous No.12353672]

>>12353641
Yeah, I honestly kind of like attractive people regardless of sex.

Anyway, Vurt is great. Anything similar to recommend?

[Anonymous No.12353697]

>>12353642
No.

[Anonymous No.12353699]

>>12353642
Forever war is stand alone,haldeman wrote the other two books because he was bored and had nothing to do.
>is it worth continuing?
Not really.

[Anonymous No.12353721]

What are the comfiest power fantasy/wish fulfilment books. Ive resorted to chink novels because theyre more shamlessly wish fulfilmenty and the mcs are usually less moralfaggy. Both chinkshit and non chinkshit recs welcome.

[Anonymous No.12353741]

>>12353672
City Come A Walkin by John Shirley
Ambient by Jack Womack
Pretty much anything by Pat Cadigan (but she can pretty hit or miss)

[Anonymous No.12353772]

>>12353741
Thanks, anon!

[Anonymous No.12353787]

>>12353721
90% of royalroadl novels

[Anonymous No.12353796]

>>12353641
I fuck girls and dudes and I'd fuck passable trannies but I wouldn't fuck a tranny that didn't pass. I like feminine shit.

[Anonymous No.12353865]

degenerates please get out of my general

[Anonymous No.12353871]

>>12352529
Clizia Fornasier

[Anonymous No.12353916]

>>12353796
GRI approved poster

[Anonymous No.12353929]

>>12349848
Funny how most of these people debating these morally repulsive lifestyle choices are obese, asexual and mentally ill. Rothfuss fits at least 2 of those categories himself.

[Anonymous No.12354314]

What do we think of him /sffg/? What do we think of his youtube videos?

[Anonymous No.12354316]

>>12353787
I just looked at them and none of them look remotely like what im looking for. They look like cringy reddit shit. To be clear i have very low standards when it comes to the quality of the work, I just want a trashy power fantasy to read while travelling.

[Anonymous No.12354379]

>>12349168
>Whats the first book you read in 2019?
>How is it?

I just finished reading Sufficiently Advanced Magic. Not sure how I feel about the book yet, it felt like I was reading MoL, but with worse characters and world building.

How does the sequel compare to the first book? I was told that it's significantly worse, except for the final part which is awesome.

[Anonymous No.12354380]

>>12354316
Daniel Black. Wild Wastes. Botns

[Anonymous No.12354479]

>>12354379
>>12349168
Thin Air by Richard K Morgan. pretty fucking good. I think I like it better than Altered Carbon

[Anonymous No.12354490]

anyone read Wolfhound Empire? I posted in the last thread but I forgot to follow up

[Anonymous No.12354564]

I can't get 10 pages into Red Rising. I already hate the setting and the main character. Why the fuck do people like this?

[Anonymous No.12354591]

>>12349330
This would have been LOTR if Tolkien wasn't a hack

[Anonymous No.12354641]

>>12354479
Glad to hear that, was planning on checking it out.

[Anonymous No.12354651]

>>12354564
The first chapter or two is utter shit. The memer who shilled it to me from this general made me promise him to read on. I nearly dropped it, I couldn't take the young adult twilight divergence hunger games finger in the air shit. But it gets so much better. You have to know if you're willing to suffer through some hardship to get a happy ending.

[Anonymous No.12354656]

>>12354651
explain 'gets so much better'

[Anonymous No.12354669]

>>12354591
>if Tolkien wasn't a hack
Trying a liiiitle bit way too hard there m8

[Anonymous No.12354705]

>>12354669
His prose is good that I'll admit but c'mon his works are so predicable and cliched, and don't face reality. Whats the use of frodo failing if he wins anyways? Its objectively bad story telling.

JUst dismiss me though anon, that way you won't have to answer

[Anonymous No.12354715]

>>12354705
Also would like to add his own qoute
"[t]he Eagles are a dangerous ‘machine’. I have used them sparingly, and that is the absolute limit of their credibility or usefulness"

Literally admits, himself that he fucked up. Its ok, the stuff he wrote is fun genre fiction that can be enjoyed if you shut your brain off, can anons not just admit that?

[Anonymous No.12354721]

>>12349168
>Whats the first book you read in 2019?
Rhialto the Marvellous
>How is it?
Probably my least favourite Dying Earth. I usually enjoy Vance's picaresque characters but ive found the wizard cabal tiresome

[Anonymous No.12354725]

>>12352744
>>12352487
I wonder if someone ever managed to puzzle together a somewhat neutral account of what happened.

The daughter who went public with her story seems to have her own agenda:

https://askthebigot.com/2015/07/23/the-story-of-moira-greyland-guest-post/

Although that may simply be a symptom of the abuse.

[Anonymous No.12354756]

>>12354656
Look, I enjoyed it at the end. My tastes may not match yours. If you don't want to take my word on it, then drop the book. Nothing lost nothing gained. It's only been 10 pages, you can read something else. I cba to explain how the book significantly improved from what you are seeing now.

[Anonymous No.12354764]

>>12354705
not that guy but yep you're dismissed

[Anonymous No.12354897]

>>12352744
>good books
>Kingkiller Chronicles
>ASOIAF
The absolute state of this general.

[Anonymous No.12354914]

>>12354721
>someone else that enjoy Vance but dislike the wizards
You're a scholar anon.

[Anonymous No.12354970]

Has anyone read Goblin Quest and/or its sequels by Jim C. Hines?

[Anonymous No.12354982]

>>12352487
>>12352744
>someone touched their kids 40 years ago
>it makes me want to retch
Holy shit, being this much of a pussy should unironically be a bannable offense. Get a grip.

[Anonymous No.12354992]

Does BotNS ever get to the point where it's so self-referential with in-universe lore allusions that you have no fucking clue what they're talking about?
And as a general thing, how distinctly FOCUSED does the plot remain? I've heard that Severian just repeatedly stumbles stumbles into stupid, silly shit and the whole thing just goes crazy with the alien shit
THanks lads

[Anonymous No.12354997]

>>12354982
imagine being this much of a degenerate tolerating that kind of behavior

[Anonymous No.12355012]

>>12354997
>implying
I just don't break down by merely thinking about it.

[Anonymous No.12355200]

>>12349168
no metion of the dresden files. you anons disgust me

[Anonymous No.12355524]

>>12354314
The art looks like shit.

[Anonymous No.12355526]

>>12355524
thats average not shit

[Anonymous No.12355547]

>>12349168
> Whats the first book you read in 2019?
Read it in 6 days. The beginning was good, the middle was superb and the ending was okay?
Overall a very solid work. As always though. I am yet to see a bad book from him.

So far:
Pushing Ice > House of Suns > Prefect > Century Rain > Chasm City

[Anonymous No.12355741]

>>12354997
You know someone is being raped, exactly as I post this reply, right?
You also know that chances are someone you see everyday, or once a week rapes and molests kids right? Do you feel sick knowing one of your friends / associates is a sick fuck that touches kids in their no no place?

You should neck yourself because someone you saw and exchange a word or two with yesterday is a filthy degenerate diddler. How does that make you feel? Knowing you are an accomplice?
Self righteous faggots like you that get uppity at the news that someone, who is dead and gone, did something bad decades piss me off. Because someone you bro hug / shakes hands and smiles with is doing that same thing right now.

[Anonymous No.12355764]

>>12354314
>author and artist
okay, okay, I get that you think you're hot shit
link your youtube videos

>>12355524
totally, why would someone buy that shirt?

[Anonymous No.12355809]

>>12352637
>morality should only be judged on monetary terms
disgusting

[Anonymous No.12355833]

>>12351087
Wouldn't telling you ruin the surprise if you get to read them? You'll be expecting a surprise.

[Anonymous No.12355851]

>>12355200
Why would we discuss a series that might never be written again?
Since I was here in lit in 09, every time a new Dresden book comes out there was bunches and bunches of threads discussing theories, this was long before sffg was even thought of, and when e/lit/ist used to report your thread when you were talking about sf/f, because "they weren't literature".
Then Butcher released that ending before the one where he spent an entire book as a ghost. We barely had threads that year, no one really wanted to discuss (James Marsters or w/e his name was didn't do the audiobook either). Then Jim released the last book and people pretended that ghost stories never happened. We had more threads than the ghost year, but less than the ones before.
Then butcher didn't release the next year, or the year after that... Or the year after that, or...
Now here we are. With a general dedicated to sff, where the outer e/lit/ist can't report us, and where there wasn't a new Dresden book in 5 plus years.

Tell me anon. Why would we discuss something that's been discussed already? Are you one of those faggots that only reads a few books, and could only discuss those books? Take a chart from the OP, hell even one of those chartfag creations. And read something else that isn't Dresden. You want a Dresden clone?
Try Benedict Jackka's Alex Versus or whatever the fuck it's called and Rivers of London.
Come back when you read something that isn't Dresden Files.

[Anonymous No.12355888]

>>12355851
>e/lit/ist used to report your thread when you were talking about sf/f, because "they weren't literature".
based alpha chads

[Anonymous No.12355909]

Hi /sffg/,

I am currently writing my first fantasy novel and wanted your input. Name some of the:
>cliches in fantasy that you hate
(or just cliches in novels in general)
>things that never happen to characters in fantasy

The second could be certain struggles that are fairly prevalent in the real world but very few writers incorporate into their stories when writing fantasy.

What is your opinion on romance? Can one write a popular book without having any romance in it? I've always detested cheesy lines and characters along with forced romances to appeal to the young adult audience in fantasy and don't have any plans for romance in my book(s).

Any other input from your side would be appreciated. What do you like to see? Since its a fantasy world, I'm messing around with physics a bit as well.

Thanks for reading/answering and best regards,
Anon.

[Anonymous No.12355952]

>>12350623
yeah write a second book but do it quicker

[Anonymous No.12355961]

>>12355909
>MC lives with his father in a small village
>something goes wrong

[Anonymous No.12355967]

>>12355909
romance is unnecessary for adults, a restrained or cynical view on it would probably be better for reviews and there's no need to include something you don't feel is natural

[Anonymous No.12355985]

>>12355909
>What is your opinion on romance?
its not strictly necessary. tough a bit of romance can be a good plot device or a way to facilitate character growth or some way to flesh out world-building. obviously you cant shoehorn it in and it needs to be either A meaningful if its a big part or B naturally happening as the story or character relationships progress. adult romance and ya romance are two different things too. dont lump them together and just label both as them. if you cant write it well dont do it at all is my opinion. but if it fits into your story you should absolutely atleast try to make it interesting.

[Anonymous No.12355998]

>>12355909
It sounds like you are trying to tailor make a book to fit your reader's wants.
Just write a book you want, edit it, then publish.

Trying to avoid / purposely putting in cliches in books is a wasted effort. Everything was done under the sun. Your only saving grace is to present it inna pleasing light.

[Anonymous No.12356016]

>>12355741
>someone you saw and exchange a word or two with yesterday
>someone you bro hug / shakes hands and smiles
wrong because i only go out maybe once or twice in a year

[Anonymous No.12356044]

>>12355909
the kind of romance i like is when everything is clear from the start, make it obvious that mc and main girl like each other and both of them also knows it and get them together at the end of the novel for an after story. no romance arc or fillers just make it usual interaction

[Anonymous No.12356057]

>>12355909
>things that never happen to characters in fantasy
main character is actually a side character and does nothing special the whole time, he just follows another character with main character quality

[Anonymous No.12356097]

>>12356057
Haruhi Suzumiya, you mean

[Anonymous No.12356109]

>>12356097
i don't watch haruhi and also this time it's in a fantasy setting an not an anime

[Anonymous No.12356131]

>>12356109
read, you mean, it's a novel
please pretend this is /lit/

[Anonymous No.12356145]

What fantasy has the best bromance?

[Anonymous No.12356164]

>>12355961
>MC lives with his father in a small village
>something goes wrong
>his father goes on an adventure
>MC stays there his whole life

[Anonymous No.12356168]

>>12356164
what a twist

[Anonymous No.12356183]

>want to read a load of books this year
>read 2 already
>already struggling to find something that hooks me
lol

[Anonymous No.12356218]

>>12356183
try mother of learning

[Anonymous No.12356230]

>>12356218
new year old memes

[Anonymous No.12356238]

>>12356230
no it's actually good i just finished with it

[Anonymous No.12356252]

>>12356183
Masters of Rome

[Anonymous No.12356261]

>>12356183
once I had a love
and it was a gas
soon turned out
should've read Throne of Glass

[Anonymous No.12356614]

>>12350974
Until you read the finale of the entire Eternal Champion series and basically the part of the Champion that is Elric gets released after the almost fully unified Champion straight up murders Stormbringer's "embodied" form.

[Anonymous No.12356628]

Normally I'm not one to shill but I've been trying to get a creative discord off the ground and seeing posts like >>12355909 become more prevalent here is tempting me to leave the link. Would this be wholly unwelcome? I'm not trying to steal sffg's thunder or have it be a divisive "official" discord, just trying to make a tight knit community for writers.

The creative writing threads don't last anymore from what I can tell, so I'm hoping this can fulfill a similar role for wannabe-writer anons. It could also spare you of some of their prodding questions that reek of low confidence so you can focus on books that already exist rather than entertaining pipedreams.

[Anonymous No.12356641]

>>12356628
I'd appreciate a link but you may also get overrun with trash. Your choice whether you want to post it or not.

[Anonymous No.12356690]

>>12355909
The cliche I hate the most is the trying to break away with cliches. Also "complex" plots suck dick. Just don't write a novel that feels like a movie and you're good.

[Anonymous No.12356708]

>>12356641
Precisely why I've been hesitant to do so, but at least /sffg/ is rather low traffic and I can't think of any better alternative. Our current members have exhausted the people they can invite via word of mouth. I do have a filter in place to hopefully weed out undesirables, but I'm fully expecting a few to slip through.

If a few people are interested I'll leave a temp link.

[Anonymous No.12356865]

>>12351889
I couldn't finish Igraine's part over all her christianity-bashing and druid-wanking, when the druids are shown to be dicks at least as much as the christians, to her personally even. Plus she's an unlikeable hypocritical cunt for other reasons too. Does it get better later?

[Anonymous No.12356940]

>>12356865
>Plus she's an unlikeable hypocritical cunt
>Does it get better later?
Almost everyone's an unreasonable cunt and because it's a book about religious conflict from the perspective of the druids you'll get Christianity-bashing all the way.

[Anonymous No.12357180]

Hello /sffg/
What book would you recommend to this Dark Souls nerd looking for something full of deeper meanings?

[Anonymous No.12357277]

>>12357180
The Book of the Nu Sun

[Anonymous No.12357279]

Any other fantasy with Byzantine flavour?

[Anonymous No.12357305]

>>12357279
Cold Iron

[Anonymous No.12357345]

>>12356183
>want to read a load of books this year
>pick up where I dropped Malazan
>book progress slows to a crawl because these are so big
At least I'm only around 15% into Midnight Tides and already interested in what happens, especially when all the Beddict brothers get together, and whatever Frank Castle decides to do.

[Anonymous No.12357367]

>>12357305
Any other fantasy with Byzantine flavour not written by cuck king cameron?*

[Anonymous No.12357389]

Besides Le Guin, any other female authors the anons find worthwhile?

No cumming loudly, thanks.

[Anonymous No.12357399]

>>12357389
C. J. Cherryh

[Anonymous No.12357436]

>>12357389
>female authors
Hope Mirrlees
Marion "The Pedophile" Zimmer Bradley
Susanna Clarke
Diana Wyanne Jones
Ada Palmer
Madeline Miller
Leigh Brackett

[Anonymous No.12357443]

>>12357389
Colleen Mccullough

[Anonymous No.12357450]

Can anyone recommend me some mainstream books that are great? Googling gives me pure shit. I just want something about detectives, ideally revolving around serial killers. I know this isn't really /sffg/ but I don't want to make a new thread.

[Anonymous No.12357480]

>>12357399
>>12357436
>>12357443
>actually recommending female authors
Wew, lad. It was a test. You all failed.

I'll look into it though

[Anonymous No.12357492]

>>12357450
>detectives
There's the dresden files (I didn't like it) and the first novel of Takeshi Kovacs (I didn't read the rest).

[Anonymous No.12357531]

>>12357450
>>12357492
I should've made myself clearer, I didn't specifically mean fantasy or sci-fi. I tried those too, that's why I want something outside of /sffg/.

[Anonymous No.12357550]

>>12349168
>>Whats the first book you read in 2019?
Obscura by Joe Hart.
>>How is it?
Liked it a lot.

[Anonymous No.12357584]

>>12357531
>I want something outside of /sffg/.
I dunno dude, have you tried Agatha Cristie, Sherlock Holmes or The Rostie with the Cunt Tattoo?

[Anonymous No.12357595]

i want to read some contemporary fantasy bestsellers to learn the tricks

is sandersons the stormlight trilogy a good start?

[Anonymous No.12357609]

>the stormlight trilogy

[Anonymous No.12357617]

>>12357595
>is sandersons the stormlight trilogy a good start?
Good is not the word I'd use, but they are definitely best selling contemporary fantasies.

[Anonymous No.12357628]

i dont get why /sffg/ doesn't like sanderson
i only read emperor's soul and elantris but both are good

[Anonymous No.12357631]

>>12353090
Therapy.

[Anonymous No.12357651]

>>12350623

Find someone you don't know online to give you critique in return for critique on theirs.

[Anonymous No.12357655]

>>12357584
Obviously, I mean something good. Basic shit like this I can find by searching the web.

[Anonymous No.12357676]

>>12356614
Dorian Best Champion

[Anonymous No.12357681]

>>12357595
It's how I started out, not too long ago, and I liked it very much. I completely understand why a lot here don't, though.

I just finished the Farseer trilogy, the ending was far more bittersweet than I like but it was a fantastic read. Poor Fitz, dudes had it rough. Even though he was an idiot a lot if the time he didn't deserve all his suffering. And cucking. How are the rest of the books by Hobb? I know she's done a few more trilogies in this setting, but I'm unsure which follows which.

[Anonymous No.12357699]

>>12357180
Lord Dunsany

[Anonymous No.12357706]

>>12357595
Throne of Glass is a great start.
Has sold much more than Stormlight archive and has more than twice as many reviews on goodreads as the first Stormlight archive book.

[Anonymous No.12357713]

>>12349745

[Anonymous No.12357729]

does /sffg/ enjoy smut?

[Anonymous No.12357737]

>>12357729
what app is that

[Anonymous No.12357748]

Anyone disappointed in the direction Gibson has taken his work? The Sprawl and Bridge trilogies were arguably fantastic pieces of work. Gibson has continued a unique atmospheric writing style that enabled the construction of a universe that revolved around the characters. The Peripheral had a break from this signature style to pursue an overused time travel plot point with other generic plot point sprinkling. The upcoming book appears even worse, attempting to connect to modern politics, sociocultural trends, and technology with concrete references.
It's a shame that Gibson feels the need to change his signature writing style to make political statements and feed a different audience.
Gibson's works have been known for subtly painting a dystopia through the experiences of the antihero, detailed descriptions of objects/settings, social abstractions of a future society etc. His works were always believable despite being fiction, due to the attention given to create a plausible near future setting using the platform of technology's presence in humanity's journey. The Peripheral and the upcoming book represent none of that.

[Anonymous No.12357752]

>>12357681
Keep reading. Ive done liveship and fitz and the fool and they’re great too

[Anonymous No.12357754]

>>12357628
We do like Sanderson, but it isn't worth engaging contrarians.

[Anonymous No.12357767]

>>12357729
Yes,specially if it has milfs

[Anonymous No.12357796]

>>12357752
I will, but I think I'll take a break and read some other books first. I could use a break from this story, the last 100 pages were pretty emotionally draining to me.
Where would you suggest I start with these other trilogies? Liveship traders is not centered around any known characters is it? And Fitz and the Fool speaks for itself, so I assume that's more of a direct sequel. It us tempting to continue though, because I felt that a lot of connections to Fitz never got a proper closure.

[Anonymous No.12357909]

>>12357737
Microsoft Edge

[Anonymous No.12357967]

>>12357628
because everyone here wants to be sanderson

[Anonymous No.12358082]

>>12356016
That's even worse. You're a no life neet basement dweller talking shit about how other people make you sick. When you're the epitome of disgust around polite society. A waste of space living off of other people's hard work. I bet you're livid that a few centuries ago 12 year olds were married and breed like horses. Neck yourself.

[Anonymous No.12358094]

>>12357628
>elantris
>good
I've read enough Sanderson to say that Elantris is one of his worse works. It's quite noticeable that it's his first published book, the characters are either one dimensional, generic or in the case of the main character, a Mary Sue. We're constantly told how smart she is but she always act like a retard. The dialogue is amateurish and the autist ex machina kid is stupid as fuck. I remember being mad about plotholes but I don't remember anything specific so I might have made that one up. Anyway, the book is shit and if it were published for any other reason than >worldbuilding I'll suck your dick.

[Anonymous No.12358095]

>>12356131
It is not lit, its /a/
Fuck off.

[Anonymous No.12358115]

>>12356628

[Anonymous No.12358119]

>>12358094
I forgot to mention the male lead that's an even worse Gary Sue than the Mary. The conflicted priest guy is literally the only remotely interesting character.

[Anonymous No.12358120]

>>12358094
>elantris
>female mc

Wasnt that the prince who got turned into a mana ghoul?

[Anonymous No.12358121]

>>12357967
But I like tea.

[Anonymous No.12358151]

>>12358120
There's a prince and a princess, about to get married before the guy turn ghoul. Forgot to mention the prince in my first post.

[Anonymous No.12358167]

i have a complete plot with dialogue for a fantasy story, and i believe its actually good

the cringeworthy part is that i imagined everything to be a pokemon fanfiction at first, and cannot get rid without having to re-introduce dozens upon dozens of fantasy elements. how people can control "magical" beings, why others cannot, why these magical beings exist in the first place, yayadayada

what do?

[Anonymous No.12358174]

>>12358167
>advertise it as a pokemon fan fiction
>set up a patreon
>release a chapter per month
>drown in furfag cash

[Anonymous No.12358175]

>>12357748
Yeah, I've read about half of his novels and all I could say was yikes when I read the blurb for his next.

[Anonymous No.12358178]

>>12358174
am i even allowed to make money by using the pokemon franchise?

[Anonymous No.12358188]

>>12358178
https://www.patreon.com/itssupereffective

[Anonymous No.12358272]

>>12355764
does nobody here actually watch/listen to terrible writing advice? i figured it would be a hit with this general.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJNMkroM8zQ
im not JP but i am kind of new. sorry if that came across wrong.

[Anonymous No.12358322]

>>12355809
Name ONE (1) thing more important than money.

[Anonymous No.12358340]

>>12356708
okay

[Anonymous No.12358368]

>>12354656
it feels much less like generic YA trash and more like the author isn't a complete hack. The sequels are good too.

[Anonymous No.12358379]

>want to read
>too many books, can't decide, too lazy to pick something up
>waste entire evening on this shitty website instead

[Anonymous No.12358423]

>>12358379
You know what you should do? Buy MORE books!

[Anonymous No.12358439]

>>12355909
i hate moralfag characters which is less common these days, but still incredibly triggering
>if i kill this dude who wants to destroy the world im just as bad

I personally almost always hate romance, desu you should read the kingkiller books and just do everything the opposite of how rothfuss does it. Or better yet not include it at all.

I'm not sure what your background is but messing around with physics is something I love as a physics grad student. I'm not sure I've read fantasy that does this well though.

Also dont use made up fantasy swearwords like sanderfat, its cringey and detracts from my enjoyment. Either just dont have swearing or use actual swears.

[Anonymous No.12358483]

>>12358175
I feel like there is no audience left even if Gibson
were to release a quality equivalent of the Sprawl trilogy. The mcdonaldization of literature.

[Anonymous No.12358530]

>>12357450
If you're into spy novels, A Single Spy, and Night Soldiers are both pretty good.

[Anonymous No.12358546]

>>12357729
Based edgy assassin girl series.

[Anonymous No.12358560]

>>12357796
No, read Liveship first. It’s not directly connected but it has a lot of influence on fitz/fool. Plus it’s fantastic on its own.

[Anonymous No.12358914]

>>12356628
>just trying to make a tight knit community for writers
But this thread isn't for writers, and I find the increase in posts of uncreative hacks asking to be spoonfed ideas rather annoying. Do it elsewhere.

[Anonymous No.12359006]

Redpill me on Prince of Thorns, is it really THAT bad?

[Anonymous No.12359012]

>>12359006
Hahaha, ye.

[Anonymous No.12359065]

>>12358914
Hence why I'm trying to nab those fuckers from here since they seem to think its welcome. I'm potentially doing you lot a favor.
>>12359006
Don't waste your time. Its all downhill from the first and the first isn't good either

[Anonymous No.12359109]

did you consider this a good book for a begginer (no that much)?

[Anonymous No.12359124]

>>12359109
eh if you're good with middle eastern space everything than it might be fine

[Anonymous No.12359221]

>>12359109
it's poli-sci for teenagers with a basic YA story around it. If you like world building you'll probably like it and enjoy the way and concepts it presents. It's not the most endearing action adventure.
If you follow through be aware that 2 is sort of boring and pointless, and 3 is much better but the ending is super rushed and needs 4.

[Anonymous No.12359232]

I'm halfway through Court of Thorns and Roses and I wanted to check with you guys to see if there's any steamy pseudo-bestiality, or if I'm just wasting my time.

[Anonymous No.12359261]

>>12359232
>Court of Thorns and Roses

[Anonymous No.12359484]

Has this been done?

>guy wrote his first novel at 10 but due to a troubles going on in his life he ended it by killing off the self-insert MC before the dark lord was defeated, and then subsequently forgot about it.
>25 years later he's a struggling author who gets pulled into the world he created in order to finish the story and defeat the dark lord
>story is split between three perspectives: the troubled boy, the struggling adult and the self-insert

[Anonymous No.12359567]

>the last five Malazan books are in the 369-392k word range
>Midnight Tides is even one of the shorter books
FUCK

[Anonymous No.12359568]

>>12359484
No, it wasn’t. But remember that your MC has to be likeable in a way and the setting more clearly defined. Also, no one writes novels at 10

[Anonymous No.12359641]

>>12359568

You're probably right. 13 or 14 would be better because if you're going to forget about a painful period of your life that's the segment most people would want to cut out. Plus, there are kids that age who write novella or even novel-length fanfics

As for the setting, I'll have to figure that out. I have a few ideas in mind, but they're full stories in their own right and don't need this extra level of plot. It might have to end up being something more generic, but I was hoping for a desert setting of some kind

[Anonymous No.12359665]

>>12357748
>>12358175

The Peripheral is good until about halfway, when it becomes apparent that Gibson isn't about to fully explore the consequences of the world he set up. Not to mention the explanation of the "jackpot" is a total copout and the ending is an asspull. I agree though, the blurb for his new one is laughable.

"Set in an alternate universe where Clinton won the 2016 election".

Like, seriously? Not surprising based on his Twitter feed, but it's still sort of baffling.

[Anonymous No.12359852]

>>12359567
I want to get into Malazan but I'm a slow reader and an imaginationlet so it would probably take me literal years to get through it.

[Anonymous No.12359918]

>>12359665
>The Peripheral is good until about halfway
Imo, it lacks all the defining characteristics of Gibson's style. That meticulous universe creation just isn't there. All the attention is wasted on time travel which like you stated, ended up being poorly explored.
>baffling
Indeed, considering how abstract and interwoven any themes were in his earlier work. Interesting how some of his best work came when he was much younger and completely submerged in counter culture.

[Anonymous No.12359926]

>>12355547
Love all the Revelation Space books.
I don't know what the fuck is up with some of his newer stuff, though. I'm halfway through the Poseidon's Children trilogy and it's just shite.
I read Slow Bullets and Revenger a year or two ago and they just came off as shitty children's books.
Damned shame.

[Anonymous No.12359987]

>>12349366
Could be one of the Shannara novels.

[Anonymous No.12360011]

>>12359665
>Not to mention the explanation of the "jackpot" is a total copout and the ending is an asspull
you could say the same about Spook Country, and Pattern Recognition. And the Bridge trilogy too come on let's be real.

[Anonymous No.12360012]

i need to come up with a fourth act of magic for my wandering chef idea.

ive got
>fire magic
>the infinite chocolate trick
>??? (was making inedible things edible)
>elixir of life

currently, my only other ideas are turning wine into water and un-baking a cake

[Anonymous No.12360021]

>>12359852
I gave up by page 126 because I can't make heads or tails of it, nothing seems to relate to anything else.

[Anonymous No.12360022]

>>12359987
Not him, but pretty certain Shannara doesn't have dwarves.

[Anonymous No.12360043]

>>12360022
You'd be wrong. Like seriously anon, dwarves are one of the big 4.

[Anonymous No.12360056]

>>12360022
>>12360043
I have literally never heard of Shannara before but dwarves are cool. Are these books good?

[Anonymous No.12360068]

>>12360056
Not really, but what else you gonna do?

[Anonymous No.12360090]

Anyone got any good SF (soft or hard) with body horror or space travel gone wrong? I love that stuff but it's very hard to find.

[Anonymous No.12360095]

>>12359567
I know that feel, just got Toll the Hounds in the mail, looked at the thiccness of it, and just knew I'd be inundated with minimum seven new pointless POVs.

Can't wait.

>>12360021
The first book is definitely considered the most confusing, and if it's any consolation I've heard that upon a reread it's astounding the amount of foreshadowing in it, probably to its detriment and turning people away before they even begin.

[Anonymous No.12360098]

>>12360068
Re-read The Hobbit, I guess.

[Anonymous No.12360187]

Asimov's "Caves of Steel" was kinda funny in some ways, very kitschy particularly when the characters went into speeches about what makes one human seemingly out of nowhere, the ending was just laugh out loud silly with the detective and the robot walking hand in hand after catching the murderer.

Still entertaining to see how a detective would use a robot's abilities in an investigation and it was an easy read however i didn't like Bayley's attitudes about Daneel or robots in general and how he gets to like them eventually but only because he finds himself superior to them. The whole laws of robotics were kinda annoying too, not harming humans and having to listen to their orders unquestionably but meh i guess those were some good rules for him to base his mystery upon

>>12360090
>body horror
Dempow Torishima's "Sissyphean", it's a tough read but his body horror and biologic creations are a thing of awe.

[Anonymous No.12360207]

>>12360090
There's a so-so one about sending a guy through a wormhole but it's only 1inch diameter so they slice him into strips and reassemble them on the other side. They also send a psychic woman through with a device that allows instantaneous communication though the precise modulation of intense pain.
I can't remember the title now...
It was like tunnel or hole or something?

[Anonymous No.12360209]

>>12360187
the robot detective trilogy gets much better which each book, he sets stuff up and can move on to new ideas. If anything it's impressive how much he leaves behind previous themes, I wish more series did that.

[Anonymous No.12360253]

>>12360209
yeah it picked up my interest enough with the world building despite thinking his conveyor belts for public transport were again pretty silly. I'm gonna go read The Cyberiad first though because I need a rest from reading Jehoshaphat! every other page.

[Anonymous No.12360266]

>>12360253
>Jehoshaphat
I had completely forgotten that, that's just great. I wish american chuunis tried to push that.
Consider that each one happens in a different planet with different conditions, there's a lot of variety in world building even if it never gets revolutionary and unique.

[Anonymous No.12360284]

>>12360266
Yeah i heard about the difference in settings and it's something i find interesting but honestly Bayley came across as an asshole for most of the book and him repeating jehoshaphat ad nauseam didn't help me with tolerating him so while i'm interested in going on with the trilogy i'm also pretty sure i don't want to binge it.

[Anonymous No.12360469]

Should 2 of the first 3 paragraphs be talking about the protag dick?

[Anonymous No.12360477]

>>12360469
No.
All 3 should.

[Anonymous No.12360480]

I'm reading Le Guin's Lathe of Heaven. Feels like a Dick rip-off and not that good so far. We shall see how it pans out

[Anonymous No.12360578]

>>12360012
how about cursing someone so that no matter how much they eat they get no nourishment from it until they starve to death

a more whimsical idea is the ability to appear from inside any sufficiently large pastry

[Anonymous No.12360595]

>>12359852
>The series has received widespread critical acclaim, with reviewers praising the epic scope, plot complexity and characterizations, and fellow authors such as Glen Cook (The Black Company) and Stephen R. Donaldson (The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant) hailing it as a masterwork of the imagination, and comparing Erikson to the likes of Joseph Conrad, Henry James, William Faulkner, and Fyodor Dostoevsky
>William Faulkner
>Fyodor Dostoevsky
W-what? Can anons confirm this? Is it really that good? I read classics in addition to genre fiction so I'm not intimidated by a challenge.

[Anonymous No.12360612]

>>12360578
maybe I should clarify that the abilities are simply supposed to be supernatural cooking techniques. the wizard who uses these doesn't consider himself to be a wizard, just an old cook who knows a few tricks to serving a good meal, even if he doesn't have a lot to work with

[Anonymous No.12360648]

>>12360595
Nah,it's crap

[Anonymous No.12360655]

>>12360648
elaborate
what do people like about it, and what don't they like about it?

[Anonymous No.12360735]

>>12350623
fix it then

[Anonymous No.12360736]

>>12357389
The Night Circus - Morgenstern. Victorian
Hild - Griffith. Historial
Synners - Cadigan. Cyberpunk
Jinx - Blackwood. YA
Beggars in Spain - Kress. SF

[Anonymous No.12360780]

>>12357389
R.F. Kuang - The Poppy War
C.S. Friedman - Coldfire Trilogy

[Anonymous No.12360835]

>"Look, old boy," said the machine

funniest sentence i've read today, this cyberiad thing is starting off well

[Anonymous No.12360853]

>>12360595
lol no. It's slow, overly long grimderp. The author doesn't spell everything out so people who are used to being spoonfed think it's deep and mysterious. Just because Erikson is bad at coming to the fucking point doesn't mean that the reading difficulty changes the series' bloat into a work of literature. If you just love worldbuilding and have way too much time on your hands then go ahead and slog through em.

[Anonymous No.12361268]

This thread was so dry.
What new books are you expecting between now and February?

[Anonymous No.12361302]

>>12349366
>>12360022
finally found it.
it was Dragondoom by Dennis L. McKiernan

[Anonymous No.12361319]

>>12360780
>R.F. Kuang - The Poppy War
Opinion discarded. That book is straight up trash that can't decide what it wants to be. Starts off as your bog standard coming off age YA fantasy with super talented protagonist(unsurprisingly inspired by Kingkiller Chronicle) and takes a hard 90 turn halfway through into grim derp "mhmmyeah war is so horrible" territory. But of course every bad YA book also needs a love triangle and the fem mc eye fucking a mysterious dude named Altan.
Please, this book is everything that's wrong with modern fantasy,"Oh wow she captured the Nanking massacre so well, that automatically makes the book awesome!"
I would honestly read Sarah J Fatass books over this nonsese, at least they don't pretend to be anything other than wish fulfillment for angsty teens.

[Anonymous No.12361330]

>>12349186
yw. Newest chapter came out yesterday if you haven't read it yet.
It's time to stop into the realm of wuxia/xianxia next.

[Anonymous No.12361458]

>>12349839

>give me a manly hero

As much as I find NOW to be bad, this review is terrible.

[Anonymous No.12361572]

>>12358530
Thanks, anon. I'll try them, they look nice.

[Anonymous No.12361586]

>>12360655
It's literally written like a movie script, and I'm not making this up. Author wanted to write a movie but no one in canada would make it for him so he just wrote it as a novel. It's fucking awful. The dialogue is absolute cringe.

[Anonymous No.12361748]

Memory, Sorrow, and Thorn books were fantastic. Will i enjoy this as much?

[Anonymous No.12361763]

>>12360595
Nah, that's absurd.

[Anonymous No.12361972]

Why is Cugel's Saga so lacklustre compared to the other Dying Earth stories? It is just Cugel doing a bunch of mischievous shit, although how does he keep getting away with it?

[Anonymous No.12362011]

>>12361972
> Dying Earth stories
It's all shit. I can't believe you fags shilling this shit so much here.
Same with Wolf-s shitty books.
FUCK OFF

[Anonymous No.12362072]

Are there any newer cyberpunk works that /sffg/ would recommend? I know that everyone and their grandma says Neuromancer, but I just couldn't get into it for how goofy it could be at times with the claw fingernails and shade-eyes. Not into that at all. Is there anything out there that focuses less on gimmicky side and more on the societal and philosophical implications?

[Anonymous No.12362126]

>>12360736
>Beggars in Spain - Kress. SF
I liked her Crossfire book, unfortunately, Crucible, the sequel, was dogshit.

[Anonymous No.12362184]

>>12362072
Honestly Cyberpunk is primarily a visual medium, it doesn't translate well to text.

[Anonymous No.12362555]

>>12362011
It was a monthly reading anon, settle down.

[Anonymous No.12362603]

im looking for an easy scifi to read, give me your favorites

[Anonymous No.12362624]

>>12349168
Any recommended sci-fi novels on population and/or migration?

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[Anonymous No.12362659]

>>12362555
It's not just monthly reading, it was shilled before too by people that hate modern fantasy. Most people when they praise it say that they liked that the magic isn't explained and it's mysterious.

[Anonymous No.12362688]

>>12362659
Yes I know you hate it, we've just had more discussion recently because of the reading.

[Anonymous No.12362701]

>>12362659
what wrong with gormenghast? meme lawrence i can understand

[Anonymous No.12362709]

>>12362688
I wasn't the anon that was posting before. I posted for the first time about dying earth when I posted that image.

[Anonymous No.12362715]

>>12362701
I don't know. You tell me.

[Anonymous No.12362722]

>>12362072
Altered Carbon

>>12362603
Leviathan Wakes (Expanse)

[Anonymous No.12362729]

>>12357713
test

[Anonymous No.12362736]

>>12362722
im on the 4th book, no mood to continue yet

[Anonymous No.12362746]

>>12362709
I was replying directly to you, as your disdain has been made quite clear over the years. I happen to quite like it, partially for those reasons you listed.

[Anonymous No.12362759]

>>12357713
Imagine unironically enjoying this hobgoblins writing. What an embarrassing sight.

[Anonymous No.12362766]

>>12362715
but why are the books out of order

[Anonymous No.12362772]

>>12361586
can you elaborate on this further? i am interested in the prospect of reading paper-bound kino

[Anonymous No.12362787]

>>12361319
based

[Anonymous No.12362809]

>>12361748
Thanks for help guys.

[Anonymous No.12362811]

Obligatory go-fuck yourself to all you raging faggots on this board who sperg out with
"""""">genre fiction" """""""""" replies to other threads about sci fi or fantasy, then these threads get 300 replies. LMFAO

[Anonymous No.12362828]

>>12362811
Why would you post this in the only thread those people do not read lol

[Anonymous No.12362832]

>>12362811
I still don't see what the problem really is, calm down you ape.

[Anonymous No.12362984]

>>12362828
Bulllllllllllshit they don't read it

[Anonymous No.12362993]

NEW AND SHINY LADS, GET IN.
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[Anonymous No.12363045]

>>12359641
>>12359484
Could be plausible if you have the teen publish it on-line as a fanfic.

The second season of the TV-series Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (loosely, very loosely based on Douglas Adams' work) revolved around a fantasy world in season two that was created by a child and turned 'real'. One thing that struck me as interesting was the way the fantasy setting kept all the details that where clearly made up by a child's imagination, flaws and all — like scissor swords, naturally occurring pink hair, a sky train prison, and a moon with an actual face.

That concept might be interesting to explore; i.e., the world the teenage author created doesn't have to make sense from an economic, sociological, or physical perspective, giving you freedom to introduce some outlandish concepts without having to find a rational explanation for them that makes complete sense to the adult author. If it made sense to the teenage writer, it can exist there.

[Anonymous No.12363090]

>>12360253
>yeah it picked up my interest enough with the world building despite thinking his conveyor belts for public transport were again pretty silly.

I still think it's an interesting concept, although dated. Heinlein wrote a nice short story about massive conveyor belt roads in 1940. It can be read integrally here:

https://archive.org/stream/Astounding_v25n04_1940-06_SLiV#page/n7/mode/2up