/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.12339109]

ITT: surprisingly poignant books

[Anonymous No.12339118]

Been meaning to read this, is it really 200 pages of pure angst and autism or are there some insightful observations?

[Anonymous No.12339139]

>>12339118
Both

[Anonymous No.12339146]

>>12339118
Both but also some pretty comfy/funny/autistic narratives.

[Anonymous No.12339148]

>>12339109
I've never read beyond a few paragraphs of it because of screenshots that get posted on 4chan sometimes, but I would expect it to be poignant. Not surprising at all.

[Anonymous No.12339179]

>>12339109
>Humanity....all of my suffering has been at the hands of humanity, particularly women.

Admit it /lit/, even if you had had the idea to write a novel from the perspective of a crazed incel shooter autist, you wouldn’t come up with an opening line as killer as this. The crazy thing about My Twisted World is that it’s a novel-long cringe meme, but even the dumbest cringe meme is full of humanity

[Anonymous No.12339483]

>>12339109
Elliot's manifesto will unironically be remembered as one of the defining philosophical texts of the 21st century.

I'm not a misogynist in the slightest (I love women tbqh), but Elliot basically wrote the incel Bible. It will be remembered in the same way Mein Kampf is remembered-- A historically significant text that outlined the tennets of a significant political movement of it's generation.

[Anonymous No.12339490]

>>12339483
>I love women
Physically cringed

[Anonymous No.12339502]

>>12339483
It actually is significant for this reason: Nobody else is willing to write something like that because he was crazy and had nothing to lose. He wrote something genuine with nothing to censor his thoughts and then he killed some people and died. I think it would be considered as a useful insight because he didn't write this to sell it, or anything like that, he just wrote his feelings and it's unique to him I guess.

[Anonymous No.12339512]

>>12339146
>that part where he thinks his friends are leaving to go fap periodically

[Anonymous No.12339538]

>>12339109
>resentful incel

If you thinks this is poignant for any other reason than because it's tragic, you're wrong.

[Anonymous No.12339542]

>>12339502
>Nobody else is willing to write something like that because he was crazy and had nothing to lose.

Not every author writes YA

[Anonymous No.12339701]

>>12339538
>>12339542
go back to r3ddit

[Anonymous No.12339883]

>>12339109
more like surprisingly hilarious

[Anonymous No.12339925]

>>12339701
>Thinks Elliot Rodgers is even a cohesive thinker, let alone poignant

>hurr gb2r

You have to be 18 to post here incase you didn't know

[Anonymous No.12339949]

>>12339925
>reddit spacing

[Anonymous No.12339971]

>>12339949
Literally been used on this site since it's inception. Fuck off with your newfag shit memes

[Anonymous No.12340003]

>>12339490
based

[Anonymous No.12340018]

>>12339971
not when using meme arrows retard

[Anonymous No.12340024]

>>12339109
Myfarog

[Anonymous No.12340026]

>>12340018
you dabbed on him right there.

[Anonymous No.12340213]

>>12339490
>physically cringed
psychically winced

[Anonymous No.12340251]

>>12339179
>but even the dumbest cringe meme is full of humanity
Because it's entirely sincere.

[Anonymous No.12340271]

>>12339883
Implying it can't be both.

[Anonymous No.12340287]

>Wahhhhh i cant get laid
>Wahhh im so egotistical that I cant redirect my autismovirgin power into something productive like the pursuit of genius
>Wahhhh instead i want to blame literally everyone but me for everything
>Wahhhhhh im going to go on an autistic shooting rampage and stab my roomates out of sheer resentment because Im incapable of managing my emotions or shaking off my childish egoism like a normal human

Totally poignant. This thread is fucking embarassing.

[Anonymous No.12340309]

>>12339109
It's interesting that some people here seem to think Elliot Rodger had meaningful things to say, assuming they're being serious.

The guy was just an overprivileged rich kid with no perspective on life. I read his manifesto a few years back, and there's really nothing interesting about it. It's more of an autobiography than anything, just a series of anecdotes about his unremarkable childhood interwoven with complaints about his sexual frustration. He barely goes into broad social "critiques," and nothing he says is original in the slightest. It's all just basic redpill/blackpill bullshit you'd hear from any incel, and he's admired in incel communities not because of his ideas, but because he killed a bunch of women.

As far as poignancy goes, maybe you could say it's tragic to see someone who was seemingly born with everything develop such a warped, self-defeating worldview, but that's it. There's nothing there worth romanticizing.

[Anonymous No.12340322]

>>12340287
>Reductio ad absurdum

[Anonymous No.12340325]

>>12340322
How the fuck is that post reductio ad absurdum? Youre an idiot.

[Sage No.12340335]

>>12340024
Lol

[Anonymous No.12340345]

>>12340322
It's not reductio ad absurdum. It's an accurate summary.

[Anonymous No.12340366]

Read beyond the fucking text you idiots. It's a fascinating work not because you have to completely sympathize or agree with the rodge but because of its implications about western society and hilariously sincere style.

[Anonymous No.12340415]

>>12340366
Exactly, these people just don’t get it. All the interest comes from a character like Elliott even existing in the first place

[Anonymous No.12340446]

>>12340309
>The guy was just an overprivileged rich kid with no perspective on life.
Yeah, it's not like he went into a mental downward spiral or anything, or killed multiple people at his lowest point. The manifesto would've been more fun to read if he showcased his personality with hyperbole and exaggeration, almost relishing in his villainous role. Too bad we never got that though.

[Anonymous No.12340456]

>>12340287
Managing your emotions is for goyim.

[Anonymous No.12340489]

>>12340366
>>12340415
There is undoubtedly a strange cult (largely among "incels") that regards him as some kind of martyr. That is certainly the context he typically comes up in. Temper my criticism against that fact.

A great character? Whats so interesting about a rich kid on the spectrum? There are plenty of people like him up to the point of considering a shooting rampage. Hell you probably went to high school with a few.

The fascination comes from the deed itself, from blood. Many serial killers have accrued interest from everyday folks drawn to the dark light of bloody curiosity.

Thats exactly what reading his manifesto is driven by. I don't think it's right to prop up interest in him by pasting his stupid face all over the place.

I get tired of seeing it. It shows how isolated and abstract people have become.

[Anonymous No.12340563]

>>12339109
there is absolutely nothing wrong about hating women.

[Anonymous No.12340666]

>>12339109
I hope I don't get put on some sort of watch-list for this, but I don't think his was such a bad way to log-out. There's something a little honourable and beautiful in dying a martyr for an ideology, living life as a tragic hero and dying in an almost larger-than-life way: true to his convictions--not that I condone it, but if I were him and I shared his beliefs, I would at least make sure the suicide note, or book, of sufficient literary merit to hold a place in the canon, even a minor one.

[Anonymous No.12340702]

>>12340287
kill yourself you actual biological waste. incels are the most oppressed group that should rule over the progressive stack and their existence invalidates all leftist rhetoric.

[Anonymous No.12340724]

>>12340666
Nice try, Satan, but Rodgers is a murderer and a suicide, he's roasting forever in the fires of Hell.

[Anonymous No.12340751]

>>12340702
I should think it more insulting to be figurative biological waste, which would suggest that even my bodily being is somehow less than real. But your point is well taken. I am awful, terrible and rotten.

[Anonymous No.12340774]

>>12339118
It's total garbage. He can't write at all. The fact that he's 100% serious makes it an interesting read though. An unironic "page turner" to borrow a meme term that would be thrown around by critics of genre trash.

[Anonymous No.12340779]

>>12340751
You're not fun stop posting and go away.

[Anonymous No.12341048]

>>12340666
My god. I never post ever but this is so warped.

Buh-baiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

[Anonymous No.12341128]

>>12340446
>The manifesto would've been more fun to read if he showcased his personality with hyperbole and exaggeration, almost relishing in his villainous role.
He said he wanted to become a dictator and put women in concentration camps, what more do you want.

[Anonymous No.12341150]

>>12340489
>There are plenty of people like him up to the point of considering a shooting rampage. Hell you probably went to high school with a few.
Is this normal in America?

[Anonymous No.12341255]

>>12340018
based

[Anonymous No.12341263]

>>12340724
>>12341048
The simple fact that you responded to my post means, to me, that a part of you, deep down inside of you, believes at least a modicum of what I said. What Rodger did was evil, but there is an iota of beauty in his life, and death, and even if you don't acknowledge it, a part of you admires the man.

[Anonymous No.12341269]

>>12340287
>wahhhposting on /lit/

[Anonymous No.12341273]

>>12339483
>thinking incels are a political movement at all

[Anonymous No.12341287]

>>12341150
The wierd kid no one likes fantasies about ways to get revenge at the people who shunned him.

Our supreme gentleman just acted out on the intense feelings a lot of people harbour.
That's normal everywhere. Modern industrial society will continue to exacerbate the problem.

[Anonymous No.12341522]

>>12341263
Not at all. You are fucking wacked out bro.

[Anonymous No.12341557]

>>12341263
Can I just say, I love the church's expression in this image. She looks like she's trying to solve a particularly difficult riddle, not lopping some dudes head off. Total disconnect.

[Anonymous No.12341568]

>>12341263
Hey I agree even more, the divine punishment of the roastie was exacted and the wokest circles of the internet revere their beloved supreme gentleman. Can't dodge the Rodge!

[Anonymous No.12341783]

>>12339139
>>12339118
>>12339146

there are no insightful observations, its just an extreme autist's worldview, and how he becomes narcissistic to cope with a world that rejects outcasts. which is quite sad really. it reads like some teenager's diary i guess, nothing sophisticated.

however if you read it in a meta kind of way it can be insightful? gives a glimpse into the minds and motivations of a school shooter

ted k's mainfesto was much better if you want to read something with actual substance

[Anonymous No.12341792]

>>12339179
An opening line has never made me laugh so hard.

[Anonymous No.12341827]

>>12341792
It's so edgy and melodramatic it makes me wonder if he was actually being 100% sincere. I think he definitely had a bit of self awareness, despite his apparent egotism

[Anonymous No.12341861]

>>12341827
Even better is that he puts "particularly woman" at the end of the line as if it's just an extra thought he's trying to squeeze in there. It's just comically bad writing.

[Anonymous No.12341896]

>>12341273
We live in the post-political age. Identity and sentiment are far more important to the modern person than any coherent set of values or ideas. Incels are, for all intents and purposes, an authentic social force.

[Anonymous No.12341911]

>>12341273
>what is the alt-right

[Anonymous No.12341934]

>>12340309
I think they like it because they get to see how he was thinking and they can read about his strange life.

[Anonymous No.12341992]

>>12339118

It's trash.

[Anonymous No.12341998]

>>12339118
It’s the fulfillment of everything DFW was attempting.

[Anonymous No.12342002]

>>12339179
He was such a fucking faggot holy shit

[Anonymous No.12342004]

>>12339118
There's a multi-video series up on the Mumkey Jones YT account but I can't get through all of it.

[Anonymous No.12342040]

>>12340489
> Whats so interesting about a rich kid on the spectrum?
Not much. But it’s a far more interesting and sympathetic than any of the boilerplate narratives from those who belong to the so-called oppressed classes. There’s nothing fascinating or profound about the latter.

[Anonymous No.12342049]

>>12341128
I was being sarcastic you retard.

[Anonymous No.12342064]

>>12341048
>My god. I never post ever but this is so warped.

>Buh-baiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

[Anonymous No.12342078]

>>12341522
He knew what he wanted and he went for it. Say what you want but I bet that final day was more lively for him than his entire life before hand.

[Anonymous No.12342390]

>>12342004
not anymore

[Anonymous No.12342410]

so many people in this thread seem like such normies incapable of abstraction and basic empathy. makes me wonder how they enjoy literature.

[Anonymous No.12342416]

>>12341896
Beyond stupid.

>>12342040
Yeah, the only books out there are slapdash liberal resentment and Eliot Rodgers. Put something good in your brain, chocolate head.

[Anonymous No.12342419]

>>12342390
holy shit, he actually got terminated by youtube?
I haven't watched that many of his videos, but from what I remember they just contained generic filthy frank-style edgy humor and he clearly condemned the actions of Supreme Gentleman

[Anonymous No.12343670]

>>12339118
it's like Notes from Underground but with far less self awareness.

[Anonymous No.12343680]

>>12339109
Elliot's manifesto has been cited 28 times.

Have you been cited even once?

https://scholar.google.com/scholar?um=1&ie=UTF-8&lr&cites=15590450659341555282

[Anonymous No.12344479]

>>12341911
a media meme to demonize anyone outside of the neocons

[Anonymous No.12344525]

>>12341896
anglos everyone

[Anonymous No.12345176]

>>12343680
/lit/ is seething because some college virgin psychopath is STILL more successful than them in literature.

[Anonymous No.12345232]

>>12339118
No actual autism, that is something very different.

[Anonymous No.12345239]

>>12339179
>crazed incel shooter autist
Building a pile of buzzwords adds nothing to a statement. Are you sure yyou should be on /lit ?

[Anonymous No.12346246]

>>12341861
Your reply was comically bad. Go fuck yourself.

[Anonymous No.12346269]

>>12339118
It somehow contains less insightful observations than a women hate thread on /r9k/

[Anonymous No.12346274]

>>12340666
Just read Mishima then