/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.12326427]

I'm applying to a conservative political role and one of the questions is asking me for books that have influenced my views. What are some books I could put down that are normie-friendly but get the point across that I'm a strong borders/far right type without being a literal national socialist? Like I obviously can't put down Kevin Macdonald or Oswald Spengler.

[Anonymous No.12326436]

>>12326427
Mein Kampf
OP is a faggot, sage this thread.

[Anonymous No.12326441]

>>12326436
I don't think you read my post newfriend! Please try to read the OP before you post in a thread so that you do not make a fool of yourself, I recommend you lurk several months before posting however.

[Anonymous No.12326454]

>>12326427
idk just some Ben Shapiro book

[Anonymous No.12326459]

>>12326427
12 Rules for Life
and pic related

[Anonymous No.12326471]

>>12326427
pick anything from my shelf

[Anonymous No.12326479]

>>12326454
>>12326459
>>12326471
Oh god please I refuse to go this low. I was more thinking of stuff along the lines of Taleb's Antifragile, a bit unorthodox but still accessible to normans

[Anonymous No.12326482]

This is confusing. If you want to play it safe just put down Thomas Sowell or some other Neo-Con meme book. What's your purpose in signalling you're redpilled but wanting to reserve your power level

[Anonymous No.12326483]

>>12326441
>boomer trying to blend in
He doesn't know this text is spoilered.

[Anonymous No.12326485]

>>12326479
You are that lower than that

[Anonymous No.12326491]

>>12326485
t. Genderfluid trannycuck

[Anonymous No.12326494]

>>12326482
>What's your purpose in signalling you're redpilled but wanting to reserve your power level
OP's dishonest to himself and others. He's a coward.

[Anonymous No.12326498]

You have certain views but you haven't read books for or against them?
Socrates said that the unexamined life is not worth living, think about that. My point is that you should hang yourself by the neck.

[Anonymous No.12326509]

>>12326498
>You have certain views but you haven't read books for or against them?
Thats not his point. Its that he has read books but normies can't handle them

[Anonymous No.12326510]

>>12326482
Because I wouldn't be working for neocons, more paleocons who are generally derided by left wing inquisitors like SPLC. But I still can't just put down something like CoC.

>>12326485
>>12326494
>OY VEY GOYIM FUCK OPTICS OUT YOURSELF SO WE CAN PUT YOU ON A BLACKLIST AND FIRE YOU FROM YOUR JOB
tiresome.jpg

>>12326498
What are you even on about? I've read plenty on the far left but I wouldn't put any of them down as books that most represent my views on a job application for a right wing role...

[Anonymous No.12326512]

>>12326498
Based

[Anonymous No.12326526]

>>12326427
Pierre Manent, A world beyond politics?
Douglas Murray, The Strange Death of Europe
Christopher Lasch, The Revolt of the Elites and the Betrayal of Democracy

[Anonymous No.12326533]

>>12326510
>plenty on the far left
but have the read any books BY the left, not the strawman versions of them? if so, name some of them.

[Anonymous No.12326535]

>>12326427
>Like I obviously can't put down Kevin Macdonald or Oswald Spengler.

You fucking cuck. Just kidding. That's great to hear, anon, I applaud your proactive attitude and wish you luck.

Bannon got away with Evola so that might be a good if potentially risky way to signal to potential insiders. But I'd put down something by Pat Buchanon and more paleocon stuff. Tucker Carlson's new book might be good too.

[Anonymous No.12326540]

>>12326510
The best idea then is to go for the classics. Thomas Hobbes, Aristotle, De Maistre, whoever
Doesn't matter if they're Jew hating white supremacists when they're in the past

[Anonymous No.12326544]

>>12326533
Holyshit kill yourself. Everyones read your stupid ideologues we're not impressed
This thread isn't about your meme ideology

[Anonymous No.12326555]

>>12326535
>Tucker Carlson's new book might be good too.
This is a good one, can't nip the Tuck

[Anonymous No.12326560]

>>12326555
>555

[Anonymous No.12326569]

>>12326544
further proof you've never read anything besides meme books by youtube antisjws

[Anonymous No.12326570]

>>12326526
Thanks will look into them

>>12326533
I meant books that ideologically sit on the far left. I've read Marx, Sorel, Merleau-Ponty, Debord, Sarte, Benjamin, etc. I'm not putting any of them down for obvious reasons.

>>12326535
Yeah I've actually read Carlson's book it's definitely in the range I'm looking for.

>>12326540
Yeah I'll probably put a couple of them down

[Anonymous No.12326582]

>>12326569
>preemptively accuses others of strawmanning
>instantly does this
Leftists are mental infants and I guarantee I've read more Leftist books than you ever will

[Anonymous No.12326595]

>>12326510
Maybe something by Buchanan

[Anonymous No.12326606]

Just namedrop the trilogy OP.

>>12326427

[Anonymous No.12326614]

>>12326535
>Tucker Carlson's new book might be good too
Came here to say this

[Anonymous No.12326618]

Posting on an EPIC REDDIT THREAD XD

[Anonymous No.12326621]

OP, this is not a place that reads normie books. if you're serious, genuinely go ask conservative redditors what they read

[Anonymous No.12326622]

>>12326427

[Anonymous No.12326627]

What does Tucker Carlson have to say that hasn't been said by conservative authors before?

[Anonymous No.12326631]

>>12326427
Faxing this thread to my journalist friends in NYC for the purpose of adding to their "pepe-paleo conservatism is dishonest and dumb" expose.

[Anonymous No.12326639]

>>12326622
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlKL_EpnSp8

[Anonymous No.12326646]

>>12326427
>Like I obviously can't put down Oswald Spengler.
Why not?

[Anonymous No.12326647]

>>12326627
He says it in a way that Current Year conservanormies can digest.

[Anonymous No.12327496]

>>12326427

Anything by William F Buckley or Glenn Beck. Not exactly ‘far-right’, but it is impossible for one to be far-right and normie-friendly.

[Anonymous No.12327611]

Books like pic related, but about your own country.

[Anonymous No.12327613]

>>12326479
1984, Animal Farm, etc.

The tour de force of failed leftist Utopias.

[Anonymous No.12327618]

The Bible
Something by Pat Buchanan

[Anonymous No.12327621]

>>12326471

the average /lit poster nowadays

[Anonymous No.12327653]

>>12326427
Great pic OP. Pat Buchanan is who you want to cite/read. He is acceptable to mainstream and far right.

[Anonymous No.12327660]

>>12327496
Yeah this, try looking into paleoconservative things. Peter Viereck maybe. Oakeshott. Depending how reactionary you want to be, you could become one of those guys who likes Burke, but there are a lot bowtie-wearing faggot American neocons who do that shit, so be careful who you get associated with. Ultimately paleocons are kind of weak and vague, but you can use them as jumping-off points into other things.

Being some kind of religious conservative also helps. Lots of Catholics are for strong values and respect for tradition, etc., which can be a "lite" version of respect for roots and identity. You get to read lots of Catholics and Catholic-esque fellow travelers like Eliot, Chesterton, Mencken, Belloc's The Servile State, etc. But again, there are legions of trad Catholic larpbros whose entire political praxis is "bruh read Chesterton, if only we had the church back everything would be fine!" Pretty weak.

Ortega y Gasset is a good one for letting normies in on the problem of mass society, without having to admit you're a fascist. Lots of authors like that.

James Burnham has a pretty unpleasant tinge for most people these days, I think he's generally regarded as some kind of quasi-Straussian. Another group you probably don't want to fall into, Allen Bloom and such, another bunch of neocon larpers.

[Anonymous No.12327675]

>>12326427
Put down Von Mises and Hayek. Say you're interested in Adorno too.

[Anonymous No.12327679]

>>12326646
This tbqh. Maybe I don't know enough about Spengler, but he doesn't seem that dangerous today or rather most people probably don't see him as some fascist Kali Yuga prophet or whatever he was meme'd into on here. I'm by no means an expert on the subject, but the very few times I encountered Spengler discussed in an official setting (university) nobody ever went "oh well he's problematic" or "that's fascism and I'm offended", it was more like "oh that guy, whatever".

[Anonymous No.12327693]

Oh and also TS Eliot. Mention him, OP

[Anonymous No.12327725]

>>12326510
Old man approved stuff- Roger scruton, G.K. Chesterton.

James Burnham and Sam Francis are central to paleocon thought.

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inquiry into the nature and causes of the wealth of nations

[Anonymous No.12327742]

>>12326544
Seconded. I’ve tried, to be fair, to read more of the left’s “high-hanging fruit”, but the core premise is always something absurdly false that invalidates the whole book mere pages in, and then who has the goddamn time to continue on for the sake of proving yourself to someone retarded enough to have recommended it?

You people have been humoured, far more generously than you ever consider what the other side might actually be trying to say, or even their intentions in saying it. Get over yourselves.

>>12326540
Second this too. The great thing about traditionalist conservative politics is how far back the ideas go, to thinkers who are too long-established to have been effectively well-poisoned in recent years.

[Anonymous No.12327791]

>>12327679
yeah, spengler should be fine. I'm a politics grad student at a pretty good uni and no one would have a problem with you talking about him. CoC is a no go though.

[Anonymous No.12327887]

>>12326427
>I'm applying to a role
>normie like me
>I want to be strong and different
>but in a normie friendly way

go>>>/fit/ and try /nofap/

[Anonymous No.12327918]

>>12327887
Wrong thread bud

[Anonymous No.12327925]

Yukio Mishima

[Anonymous No.12328017]

>>12326570
You probably want more recent paleocon books like The Conservative Mind, and the Closing of the American Mind. Another consideration which hasn't been mentioned yet is de Tocqueville. You may want to throw in some Christian theology like C.S. Lewis.

[Anonymous No.12328054]

>>12327613
Orwell was a leftist tho

[Anonymous No.12328062]

>>12328054
Can we not do this again please.

[Anonymous No.12328088]

>>12326526
The True and Only Heaven: Progress and It's Critics is arguably Lasch's magnum opus and best book.

[Anonymous No.12328144]

All of these responses and nobody has mentioned God and Man at Yale

[Anonymous No.12328168]

>>12328054
But he named the jew cause he was in with the Fabian Society.

[Anonymous No.12328634]

>>12327925
Based and Pewdie-pilled

[Anonymous No.12328725]

>>12326427
Burke

[Anonymous No.12330054]

>>12326427
This might be a bad question, but what about Carl Schmitt? I know everything about the context in which he wrote is controversial, but I've seen him read and discussed by leftists without any hesitation. Maybe it's because they don't side with him, but to me he seems a bit like Sloterdijk in that he can be appreciated by any side. Sorry if this doesn't fit with neocons, paleocons etc., I don't know that much about the subject. Also, I get that you're asking about books that signal something, but does it have to be stuff that's strictly related? Kant had some political texts as well and you could also put Nietzsche on there since everybody likes (and hates) him.

[Anonymous No.12330077]

>>12326427
Unabombers manifesto

[Anonymous No.12330081]

>>12326479
Antifragile, Atlas Shrugged and Animal Farm are quite good choices. Say that they all changed you in differenr periods of your life.

[Anonymous No.12330089]

>>12330054
Yeah don't do this leftists talk about Schmitt because they're critical of him. He's still taboo to discuss in a positive light as far as I know

[Anonymous No.12330457]

>>12326427
>or Oswald Spengler.
Please.

[Anonymous No.12330477]

>>12326427
Wouldn't you know that yourself, if you deserved the job?

[Anonymous No.12330487]

Spengler isn't wrongthink, and chances are the people at the top of OP's organization have read and enjoyed it. Here's Decline of the West in the movie "Metropolitan" (1990)

[Anonymous No.12330513]

>>12326471
I don't even have a witty comment, it's just a sad fucking display, the videogames below those books show exactly what kind of person your average "conservative" nowadays is.

[Anonymous No.12330697]

>>12326427
Go for old shit: The Republic, The Prince, The Levathian etc.
Or alternatively conservative/reactionary fiction writers like: Ernst Junger, Yukio Mishima etc.
These shouldn't ring any major alarm bells with normies, and should send the message that you are a far right type of guy and might also impress them because right wing types like old stuff more.

[Anonymous No.12332313]

>>12330089
>>12330054
I am seconding this guy, do not talk about Schmitt. He has way too much Nazi stigma still

[Anonymous No.12332366]

>>12326427
The Death of the West by Pat Buchanan

[Anonymous No.12332397]

>>12330697

The Prince doesn't convey a message which is normally associated with American political conservatism. As-a-meme, the book itself isn't even particularly associated with any strand of the American right, beyond being a meme-book that young people read alongside things like Sun Tzu for a little normie-tier /lit/ cred. I get the sense that the association is made because younger dudebro professional right-leaning types read books like those. Although The Prince advocates a certain early modern realpolitik, and certain of its prescriptions are common sense in contemporary statecraft, its advice to kill the right people at the appropriate time does not sit well with the Jesus-people, who form a rather large and consequential wing of American conservatism.

[Anonymous No.12332404]

>>12326427
>Constitution of Liberty- Hayek
>The Abolition of Man- C.S. Lewis
>The Brothers K.- Dosto

All are unironically great and if you haven't read them already, you should now.

[Anonymous No.12332535]

>>12326427
>Like I obviously can't put down Kevin Macdonald or Oswald Spengler.
Why not? Not MacDonald, but Kissenger wrote his thesis on Spengler.

[Anonymous No.12332546]

>>12326510
Anything by Pat Buchanan and anything by the Founding Fathers. You're dumber than dogshit OP if you need someone else to tell you this, so I hope you don't get the job in the first place. Incompetent dicksucker.

[Anonymous No.12332646]

Does Ernst Junger fit in?

[Anonymous No.12332690]

>>12330513
It's pasta

[Anonymous No.12332902]

>>12332646
Yes, but only if you've actually read him.

[Anonymous No.12334010]

Common sense, Rights of Man, namedrop Machiavelli.

Reading conservative popcornbooks isn't impressive to people who are looking for something more than your regular straight ticket republican who watches Tucker

[Anonymous No.12334016]

12 Charges of Lead by Jordan Peterson

[Anonymous No.12334040]

>>12334010
>namedrop Machiavelli.
What a terrible idea

[Anonymous No.12334044]

>>12326427
this is the best pepe

[Anonymous No.12334071]

>>12334044
And for those who don't know what it's referring to, it's a pepefied version of anti-white art commissioned by the jewish Rothschild family.

These kikes gotta go.

[Anonymous No.12334285]

>>12334071
it's specifically referring to the commission that was under the Eiffel Tower in Paris.

[Anonymous No.12334295]

>>12334071
such a shame as well since the art style is actually quite interesting

[Anonymous No.12335421]

>>12326427
Just tell them you do all your reading on 4chan

[Anonymous No.12335431]

>>12326427
The Wealth of Nations by Adam Smith
Basic Economics by Thomas Sowell
Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand
The Bible by ma lord and savior

[Anonymous No.12335435]

>>12326427
Aristotle

[Anonymous No.12335443]

>>12326427
Gentile and Marin. Normalfags probably never even heard of them.

[Anonymous No.12335470]

>>12326427
I'd start with a list of fairly "safe" books:
Plato - The Republic
Aristotle - Politics
Hobbes - Leviathan
Rand - Atlas Shrugged
Smith - Wealth of Nations

Toss in Men Among the Ruins by Julius Evola to subtly probe for reactions

Toss in Decision Points by George W. Bush to balance it out just in case.

[Anonymous No.12335474]

>>12335470
>Plato - The Republic
Too commie

[Anonymous No.12335610]

>>12326471
Jesus Christ. This troll image is so well thought out it makes me want to break into a slow clap. The subtle way it draws you further and further into its depths the longer you look at it is just astounding.

Obviously, the first thing we notice is that books by Lauren Southern and Trump are prominently displayed. This will likely provoke the immediate knee-jerk reaction it was intended to provoke, causing the average NPC Facebook normie to simply post a typical "dumb drumpfkin" comment (or "#MAGA" comment in the case of a conservative-flavor normie) and move on. However, the more observant meme connoisseur will stay a bit longer and savor the myriad flavors this image has to offer.

Moving on, the next thing we do is scan the other titles on his shelf, and note that every book this person owns was written by either a meme author or an internet personality. This individual doesn't even possess the obligatory token copy of The Bible or Plato's Republic that people like this usually keep on hand to proclaim to the world that yes, they are in fact a well-rounded person. The same level of scrutiny causes us to next note that his bookshelf is mostly video games. However, digging even deeper, we see that it's much more than just that. His bookshelf isn't just full of games, it's full of console games. XBOX games, no less. Not only that, but his collection reveals tastes so quintessentially normie-tier that Norman Rockwell would be compelled to rise from the grave and paint this man's portrait should his spirit ever chance upon this collection in its lonely wanderings. This man does not just play Halo, he owns every Halo ever made. He owns more novels and comic books related to Halo than he owns actual books. He doesn't just play WWE Smackdown, he owns the complete set from 2007-2014. The rest of his collection is only hinted at; we see only the neatly ordered rows of green-tinted cases stretching off into the horizon, leaving us to only imagine what other gems this treasure-trove might contain.

This is not just a picture of someone's bookshelf, this is a portrait of a man. A man whose blood is literally 96% Monster™ energy drinks. A man who is less an individual than he is the quintessence of a stereotype, the very Form of an r/the_donald normie.

2000/10. Well memed, sir, well memed.

[Anonymous No.12337023]

>>12326427
Bump

[Anonymous No.12337056]

>>12326427
Jean Raspail's Camp of the Saints is always a good conversation starter

[Anonymous No.12337067]

>>12335474
If the only thing you got by a long dialogue about many things is that we should enslave the population that you might have missed the point(s)

[Anonymous No.12337098]

>>12337067
You might have missed the point of this thread

[Anonymous No.12337718]

>>12334295

No, it isn't. It's the stuff of the New York Times editorial page. "oh, let's draw a simple figure and some bomb or some computer or flower integrated cleverly into the composition, we're making a big point with a simple cartoon-image!" A political cartoon with pretensions of being high art. An art style functionally equivalent to pic related, as some liberal hack attempts to re-bottle modernism, or classic Disney or classic cartoon imagery, with a hint of irony. It looks terrible and leftists mistake such kike bullshit for decent art.

It is, quite literally, degenerate art.

[Anonymous No.12337742]

>>12335470
also Marcus Aurelius

everything but stoicism is gay

[Anonymous No.12337816]

>>12335474
I would actually disagree that the communistic elements in Plato's ideal city were meant to endorse a system similar to modern communism. The system he describes is basically a caste system based on people's natural qualities, with those exhibiting the "best" traits being the ruling class. The ruling class would essentially be quarantined from the rest of society so as not to fall under its influences. The parts where he talks about not people being forbidden to own property or marry and considering children to belong to the collective rather than its family and parents as I understand it applies exclusively to the ruling class; unless I completely read it wrong he has no interest in applying the same restrictions to the common classes which would account for the majority of the population. The restrictions are there to prevent the ruling class from being corrupted by personal ambition or greed or the natural desire to place the interests of one's own children above the interest of society as a whole. The idea was that the ruling class would be responsible for the well-being of the city and thus could not be permitted to have individualistic goals or interests that could conflict with those of the society in its charge. It was a noble sacrifice that was expected of only the "best" of citizens.

In any event Plato's Republic is one of several books that constitute a linear progression of thought from Greece and Rome through Medieval Christendom through Hobbes and Locke that lead to the enlightenment-era ideas that America was founded on. If OP is applying for a job with a conservative outfit it's a good book to have on his list regardless of what his views on the specific ideas might be. Liberals used to read stuff like this too, although anymore I don't think they're expected to have read much more than Ta Nehisi Coates and Harry Potter.

[Anonymous No.12337868]

>>12326427
hey dude i sure hope you arnt gonna turn out like this.

charging a man with your ass shouting america.

dont let someone just use your enthusiasm against you... also dont go thinking you can break the laws to push an adgenda. You'd be better off just rebuking the laws.

I dont know, if you cant think of any moderate books off the top of your head as a conservative then maybe thats a bad sign.

[Anonymous No.12337955]

>>12337868
>adgenda

[Anonymous No.12338865]

>>12326427
DeMaistre

[Anonymous No.12339365]

>>12326427
What is the position you are applying to anon?

[Anonymous No.12339420]

>>12326427
Don't be afraid to put down fiction or poetry as well anon. In my experience Paleocons are more "artistically" inclined than neocons. Though I don't know exactly what kind of place you're applying for. Just make sure you know them and their interests fairly well. And good luck.

[Anonymous No.12339734]

If I was applying for the job I'd put down ernst junger and mishima.

[Anonymous No.12339870]

>>12339734
Did Junger actually have much to say politically? Granted I’m only halfway through Storm of Steel (the 1924 version) but he doesn’t really seem to care about politics.

[Anonymous No.12339932]

>>12335610
I like to think there is a meme artist out there who bought those books just for this picture and to bait people with screenshots of inane annotations he made in them with a bad dragon dildo and loli pillow in the background.

[Anonymous No.12340693]

>>12326533
If the left could produce anything that isn't a retread of The Authoritarian Personality, it might be worth knowing. Until then, it's all deconstruction of former norms, Talmudry, and a heretical cultivar of Christian ethics with all the transcendence tossed out and overgrown liberal ethics.

Should I read Noam Chomsky who now says the US should remain in Syria?

[Anonymous No.12340705]

>>12340693
The Israel Lobby by John Mearsheimer

[Anonymous No.12340712]

>>12326510
tip: if the SPLC has designated your employer as a hate group, you might be a baddie

[Anonymous No.12340713]

>>12340712
Shalom kind sir!

[Anonymous No.12340810]

BRONZE AGE MINDSET

only joking friendo the book says deny you have heard of it