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Help me /lit/, I can't pick a side.

>> No.12319794

>>12319788
Cool, go tell your blog. Not literature related, fuck off.

>> No.12319793
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antinatalism

>> No.12319798

>>12319788
>tech CEO monarchy
>Nick Land
kek total memes

>> No.12319801

>>12319788
Depend on what's your color pigment.

>> No.12319803
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>help me trade one retarded ideology for another

>> No.12319818

>>12319788
Just turn 20 and it won’t seem like such a big deal anymore.

>> No.12319822
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>>12319788
There's only one correct side.

>> No.12319824

>>12319788
cronge

>> No.12319829

>>12319822
crange.

>> No.12319833

>High IQ city states

>Contrary to popular belief, two parents of higher IQ will not necessarily produce offspring of equal or higher intelligence. In fact, according to the concept of regression toward the mean, parents whose IQ is at either extreme are more likely to produce offspring with IQ closer to the mean (or average).[16][17]

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>>12319829

>> No.12319873

>>12319822
But do you into the science of ecology?
I can't recall ever seeing a self-proclaimed 'ecofascist' discuss ecology in a scientifically meaningful way. With all these memers for linkola and ecofascism you would think people would talk life science more around here. Are authoritarian half-ecologists just idiots?

>> No.12319887

both sides are gay as fuck you loser

>> No.12319928

>>12319788
hahaha. "Choice."

>> No.12319929

>>12319788
>thesis
>antithesis
just synthesize them anon, its not that complicated
>>12319822
baste and treepilled

>> No.12319943

>>12319833
That just means that two say, 160 IQ parents will tend to have 130 IQ (rather than 160 IQ) children, not that their children are likely to actually have an IQ that is just average (i.e. 100).

>> No.12319946

>>12319943
Yes but continuing this trend it will eventually converge to 100.

>> No.12319962

>>12319833
>>12319946
Desu, you'll still need the broad normie
population breading ground. It's not something you can succesfully replicate generation after generation, yet anyway.

>> No.12319970

>>12319818
/thread

>> No.12319981

>>12319788
You forgot the Star Wars helmet

>> No.12320058

>>12319873
No, they can't even discuss predator-prey relationships in a meaningful way.

>> No.12320061

>>12319822
modernist and degenerate

>> No.12320096

>>12319946
No. Regression to the mean is a consequence of the low likelihood of homozygotic inheritance across a large number of loci for traits controlled by large numbers of recessive genes (because each parent might be homozygotic at different loci). But eugenics would gradually shift the genepool towards the right variants and thereby end regression to the mean.

>> No.12320154

>both sides are gay and cringepilled
>leftism is even gayer and resentiment pilled

Is it time to take the radical centrist pill?

>> No.12320471
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>>12319873
>>12320058
>I can't recall ever seeing a self-proclaimed 'ecofascist' discuss ecology in a scientifically meaningful way. With all these memers for linkola and ecofascism you would think people would talk life science more around here.

I think its because most self proclaimed ecofascists don't have any science background. A lot of eco-policy people in general are just policy people first and foremost who defer to the actual science people when evaluating policy options because we only have so much time in life and we need to specialize. The ecofascist's here probably deffer to scientists even less so, thinking it satisfactory to simply spout about "muh Malthusian collapse".

I myself fall squarely into the ecoregionalist camp although I actually have to resist the temptations of ecofascism. My own people are in a very precarious ecological position with changes not happening fast enough and it is very tempting to go hard-line and tell people to just fall into lockstep and do as ecologists tell them. Yet I know this is a bad idea and that much more mellow avenues need to be explored whereas they believe that the most forceful road is the best road. To be an ecofascist is to give in to anger and impatience.

>> No.12320714

Neither, both sides are retarded.

>> No.12320741

>>12320471
Ecofascists on the internet are just regular fascists who use ecological awareness to have a cool aesthetic, its the second gayest recent internet political trend after the fascist vaporwave shit

>> No.12320746

>>12320741

Day of the rope couldn't come sooner for this limp-wristed half-man thing.

>> No.12320748

>>12319833
I unironicly think all IQ posters need no kill themselves

>> No.12320756
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>>12319788
>accelerationists are so fast they can't meme
Should be easy.

>> No.12320765

>>12319788
Right: Larping nerds
Left: Larping nerds
literally doesn't matter lmao

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>>12319873
Science is what causes the destruction of nature, brainlet.

>> No.12320770

>>12319833
high iq parents are more likely to raise their children properly and make sure they are properly educated whereas low iq parents let their kids drop out of school at age 13
get it now?

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>>12320154
About time, anon.

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Who cares? Neither are realistic.

>> No.12320844

>>12319803
what can you expect from a person literally asking an internet image board how to orient his entire world view

>> No.12320866

le false dilemma

>> No.12320935

There is literally nothing to be done but saving your own skin. The bubble burst awhile back. There is no saving the situation, as of current. Too many people, too many ideas with too little merit.

>> No.12320981

>>12319788
if you don’t choose right side, you’re stupid.
Left side is inevitable, but it has to be approached smoothly, by retaining what’s on the right side. Like landing an airplane, you don’t nosedive.

>> No.12320985

>>12319794
>Nick Land isn't literature related
Please kill yourself

>> No.12321149

>>12319788
If I were to choose, I'd pick the right side, but in space. Too late for that, though. We're going for the left at full speed and there's no escaping it.

>> No.12321163

>>12319788
IDIOTS! THEY CAN BE RECONCILED! ONLY TECHNOLOGY CAN SAVE US FROM TECHNOLOGY! BUT NO ONE WILL LISTEN AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>> No.12321169

>>12321163
Please elaborate.

>> No.12321199

>>12321169
If you take away the Nick Land, collapse, accelerationism, sexbots, and AI then both sides can be reconciled. How is this not obvious? Is it not possible, with advanced technology, to create whatever type of society we desire, even one with limited technology? Why do people assume we can’t?

>> No.12321207

"Choose" whatever ideology you like anon it's not like it's going to change the world anyway. Just make sure it isn't spiritually or physically damaging. And don't let it distract you from useful readings.

>> No.12321214

>>12321199
what did u say i didn't listen lmao

>> No.12321218

>>12320746
do it then you retarded faggot

>> No.12321241

>>12321214
You want manly men and pure women? GENETICALLY ENGINEER THEM FROM THE OUTSIDE. You want an ethnostate, a KING worthy of rule and respect, a place of art and culture, GENETICALLY ENGINEER THEM. Obviously every single society cannot be the same, but it only takes one central hub of technology to maintain it all. IT’S SO CLEAR BUT EVERYONE THINKS BLACK AND WHITE WHY WON’T YOU UNDERSTAND?!

>> No.12321249

>>12320981
>inevitable
man you guys just eat that shit up eh? you give no priority to chaos or adjacent possibilities. you're all just so sure. cause that doesn't stink of manipulation or anything. fuck, what idiots. read a book on prediction and then one fucking book of scepticism, that's all I ask. You fuckers are so eager for narrative based futures that you spend all day promoting the destruction of the very things you want to save. You are all turning into fucking classic Liberals like every American does in response to their childhood. You're fucked, and you don't even see who is fucking you.

>> No.12321255

>>12321241
say what again? i've got hearing problems

>> No.12321263
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>>12321207
Is this ok?

>> No.12321294

>>12321255
Technology is only a danger because of the people that harness it. A world free from competition and mindless attachment to technology obviously doesn’t consider its negative consequences. But intelligent people of the future will understand the importance of discovering the uses of technology, whether they use it or not. We must inevitably advance technology so that we will not be destroyed by it, but this is only possible if the humans that use it are responsible intelligent. How can this be guaranteed? THROUGH TECHNOLOGY. Genetic engineering can save virtually all problems indirectly. But people are so insecure of heir stupidity that they don’t want to create people with higher intelligence to decide on these important issues. Why is that? Why would you not want to create someone who can see all perspectives?

>> No.12321300

>>12321294
dude sry can't hear u, maybe another day when i get my 'earing aid mmmkay?

>> No.12321322

>>12321199
wait do people not know this? I and a whole bunch of people I know are trying to get our community towards this, it seemed self evident.

>> No.12321516

>>12320154
Centrism is a middle ground fallacy

>> No.12321562

>>12319822
I can't gel with ecofash as long as they keep throwing neo-Nazi shit in there. Makes you look like a fucking redneck. A lot of those guys don't even give a shit about environmentalism, they're just larpers who like to innawoods poast.
You can't even bring back 90s-style ecoterrorism because of how inundated that realm is with feds and infighting.

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>>12319788
>he doesn't fuse all ideas
>and extract nostalgia and value from his own distant memories of life before understanding
>he is not emperor of his own universe
Shameful slavish swine
Enjoy festering in someone else's mold
and being shot on someone else's command
that's all it boils down to.
Someone's gonna shoot ya.

>> No.12321604

>>12319873
Be aware that >90% of niche political talk comes from people who have no clue what they're on about, and that these meme ideologies are chains of catchphrases and broad ideas instead of any actual theory or knowledge.
It's like the circle of communist trad-Catholics on Twitter. Their ideology is utter nonsense, but they'll just vomit up snark and "no u" when confronted, instead of actually trying to learn and refine their beliefs.

Ecofash is a pipe dream anyway, since the closest thing the west has to right-wing authoritarianism (wignat praise kek 1488 garbage) still rejects environmentalism as an attempt to own the libs.

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>>12319788
Take the Tedpill

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let us assume you are an engineer with a moderately high salary. buy some land nearby, so that the commute is long but you can afford property. learn to garden. learn to farm. learn to grow your own food and learn a trade that you can sell. buy physical books. go running. meditate. pray. become involved with local farmers markets. quit your job. raise your family. write haikus and pin them to the walls of your office door. leave them on the steps of the library, where you volunteer to help immigrants read. share your excess food with your neighbors.

>> No.12321913

>>12319788
>social darwinism
Pure fantasy.

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>>12319788
???

>> No.12321925

>>12319788
Personally I wouldn't choose either. There are far better options.

>> No.12322472

>>12319873
I love ecology and the eloquence of intact ecosystems. I also find great heart and meaning in the excess and cruelty of evolution. The way over many generations the wolf gives the doe her speed. The many deer which have had to fall to make speed (or smell or what have you) a meaningful differential in individuals. I have spent many hours studying and learning plants indigenous to my bioregion. I'm not sure if I am an ecofascist (Ive yet to read any text on the subject) but I am probably something similar. I dont like internet political fads.

>> No.12322555

>>12319788
right is naive and dumb
left sounds cool
do left

>> No.12322699

>>12321516
>Centrism is a middle ground fallacy
False. Centrism is produced by observing evidence, not by using convenience heuristics. Centrist positions only appear as 'middle-groundism' because previous thinkers have accepted the evidence that lead to their positions (and successful policy), thereafter appearing to be 'centrist' but in fact being successful adaptation. Apparent 'middle-groundism' is an artifact of successful intellectual conflict.

>> No.12322738

>>12321921
And what are you going to do while waiting for your mythical collapse? Stand around with you hands in your pockets?