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>Boo hoo he was a rasist incel
Can they say anything else about him?
How can someone be so blinded by political biases?
https://youtu.be/ZwrNTHYX6hg

>> No.12314150

>>12314144
>Chapo Crap House

WHO

FUCKING

CAAAAAAAAAAAAAARES

>> No.12314155

>>12314144
who the fuck cares about these bugmen

>> No.12314174

>>12314144
Didn't he marry or something? You're automatically disqualified as an incel if you marry.

>> No.12314185

>>12314144
They're so mad that this guy is more talented and influential than they will ever be.

>> No.12314192

>>12314174
He actually refused to fuck her.

>> No.12314194

>>12314144
I genuinely don't understand why so many people pay attention to some fat dude rambling about society. If I take a single look at that guy, he represents everything I don't want to be. If I woke up tomorrow looking like that, I would kill myself without hesitation.
He is not even well-red or educated. So someone remind me why people care about them? People make fun of Peterson or Shapiro but those people are at least Harvard graduates.

>> No.12314199

>>12314174
He did. They are just too blinded by their own political views to know that. You can boil their opinions of people down to

Agree with me == good
Disagree with me == bad

But that can be said for any ideology

>> No.12314202

>>12314144
>he praised jews
>"thank you"
Every time.

>> No.12314216

>>12314174
Lovecraft? he died from syphilis contracted from a Japanese prostitute.

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How can someone look like this and make fun of virgins? You would think at least they avoid the whole topic altogether. Who are they trying to fool? Beucase regardless of his views he looks like some 30 year old virgin textbook stereotype

>> No.12314237

>>12314228
Holy fuck his arms are so short wtf.

>> No.12314243
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>>12314228
Please tell me that isn't one of the guys I'm hearing right now.

>> No.12314247

>>12314194
Lol this. Is it wrong that I seriously discount (and in the extreme discard) anything that weak/ugly/people full of ressentiment have to say? I think it’s actually an interesting discussion on this point

>> No.12314258

>>12314243
Wait is that really the guy?

>> No.12314267

>>12314194
>Well-red

>> No.12314293
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>>12314243
they look exactly as you would expect

>> No.12314306

>Can they say anything else about him?

They did. They're all fans. It's a fact that he was a racist incel (okay he got laid once, w/e). How is acknowledging this a political bias?

>> No.12314309

>>12314192
So he was a volcel, not an incel.

>> No.12314323

>>12314306
Why would you make fun of someone for being racist?

>> No.12314343

>>12314306
it's a fact that you're a retarded redditor, and i pointed this out because it's relevant to what i care about. I dont point out facts that I dont care about

>> No.12314357

>>12314267
Not even wrong, chapos are barely even demsocs, they literally got laughed out of the leftist activist sphere for plagiarizing MDE.

>> No.12314373

>>12314144
Are they related to Joaquín "El Chapo" Guzmán?

>> No.12314434
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>7 layers of irony to hide from real world
>rips into everybody but themselves
>always whining about something

CTH remind me of fucking boring teenagers.

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>>12314293
Jesus H. Christ

>> No.12314465

>>12314144
I tried to listen to a few episodes of chapo once. They came across as incredibly smug and self-satisfied, while saying very little and laughing a lot (at their own jokes).

Do yourself a favour and listen to superior podcasts like Radio War Nerd.

>> No.12314498

>>12314465
I love radio war nerd and if I had to choose which to support I'd obviously go for them.
Chapo is nice as no real content entertainment with a left leaning, just like most US media has an evident right leaning. Just because there is little competition doesn't mean they have to be the best at it, no reasson to expect them to be intellectuals. They at least interview actually capable people doing irl work.

>> No.12314505

How do you guys read a guy who made his career out of how weird people are and distinguishing the strange traits of other races, tying them with impossible horrors, and decide there is no subtext. Do you actually read books or just move your eyes back and forth until you feel you're done?

>> No.12314512

>>12314498
>Chapo is nice as no real content entertainment with a left leaning
Left as in true left (communism, etc) or the American brand of "left" (progressive liberals and cucks)?

>> No.12314514

>>12314498
>most US media has an evident right leaning
Pardon?

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>>12314505
I understand Lovecraft.

>> No.12314556

>>12314512
Oh man, your going to be devastated when you learn European left-wing parties are even more cucked than the American left.

>> No.12314560

>>12314505
The subtext is based and redpilled.

>> No.12314568

>one person calls him an incel
>the first comment the girl makes about HP is about his appearance
Yup.

>> No.12314570

>>12314512
>Left as in true left (communism, etc)
Fuck off with this commie meme. That's never what left meant.

>> No.12314575

>>12314512
international left
actually before listening to them I assumed no one in the US actually understood how and why liberalism is right wing through the world.
They also interviewed Adam Curtis, Yanis Varoufakis and actual human beans.

>>12314514
In the rest of the world we consider liberalism right wing, so even what you call left wing, like democrats or CNN is 100% right wing in most places.

>> No.12314581

>>12314560
At least half the subtext of Lovecraft is more inline with Juche Communism than modern conservativism.

>> No.12314583

>>12314514
Not him but he's right. MSM in the US is centre-right at best: pro-war, interventionist, jingoistic, economically conservative, yet smeared with the malaise of social liberalism.

>> No.12314588

>>12314556
they are completely cucked, like the Greek example, but they still call left what everyone calls left. There's a language barrier with the US where you simply don't follow the same labels that everyone else uses.

>> No.12314591

>>12314247
this is fahrenheit 451 tier thinking. i remember mildred's friend talks about how she voted for one candidate over another because he was handsome and had a nice sounding name.

totally superficial, one would consider you a non playable character

>> No.12314600

>>12314570
t. progressive liberal American cuck

>> No.12314609

>>12314575
>In the rest of the world we consider liberalism right wing, so even what you call left wing, like democrats or CNN is 100% right wing in most places.
Yep, this is correct. I was surprised by knowing Hillary Clinton was considered "leftist" in Burgerland.

>> No.12314611

>>12314174
Yes, if anyone from that scene could be described as a racist incel, it would be Robert E. Howard, but I guess a podcast about him wouldn't draw the same audience.

>> No.12314615

>>12314560
well, we might disagree on whether it is based but yeah, it is red pilled in 4chan terms.

>>12314581
really?
you never got a line of racial purity, contamination, and destiny? or how he described weird people as eastern europeans and spaniards?
Like, he hated the south as much as your regular new yorker, sure, but his argument was that they were subevolved protohumans.

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>>12314144
>caring about the opinions of people who are economically illiterate
>caring about the opinions of urbanite leftists
grow up kid

>> No.12314629

>>12314575
>In the rest of the world we consider liberalism right wing, so even what you call left wing, like democrats or CNN is 100% right wing in most places.
Where the fuck do you live? there isn't a national news broadcast in Europe as openly left-wing as CNN, are you just an American larping or something?

>> No.12314634

>>12314144
Lovecraft is not reddit, he's that 0.1% of /pol/ who read books

>> No.12314637

>>12314591
they defended Bernie, you're getting mad at people for doing things they don't do.

>> No.12314641

>friend posts something on facebook about liking lovecraft
>mutual sjw "friend" send him long private message detailing how he was a racist

made me like him more t b h

>> No.12314643

>>12314629
Just so we are on the same page, what does "left wing" mean to you? Do you considere Hillary Clinton to be a leftist?

>> No.12314651

It's telling that the political establishment has managed to polarise all debates along the (literally) one-dimensional axis of left and right, stripping all nuance and facilitating bipolar tribalism. Wouldn't it be great if there were five or six political leanings, such as in [redacted for off-topic (you)s].

>> No.12314677

>>12314609
She wanted to give international corporations protection from the law, she pushed for that over 40 times.
To be honest trump was more left wing than her.

>>12314629
most people mock CNN repetitors
we have a comedian walk around with a CNN microphone and asking rich people for their support for privatizing running water or blocking the sunlight in poor neighbors to make them docile and they agree with him.

Again, this might sound weird to you, Greece had a left wing communist party in government that turned right wing as soon as the EU pushed a bit; increasing the retirement age, reducing minimum wage, making the state smaller, doing a witch hunt against itself. It's defined by your politics, not the name you chose or who they talked with.

>> No.12314712

>>12314651
not really since the US has two parties that agree in everything besides cosmetic elements and their particular sponsors. Both parties want war in countries that didn't want anything to do with the US, both want to give more power to corporations, neither wants to control abuses on the public sector or gives support to base/local enterprises.

The democrats made a health care system where every single thing the republicans wanted changed got changed, the result was increased income for healthcare companies. The main producers of military grade weapons are democrat supporters, and now that Trump wants out the democrats are calling him weak even though Obama promised doing exactly that.
The US has a single party system since the 70's and it's just weird from the outside. I already mentioned that Trump is more on the left than Hillary from my perspective.

>> No.12314718

>>12314677
>Greece's communist party turned out to be way more right-wing than the current American democratic party thus proving the democrats would be right-wing in Europe
I guess?

>> No.12314719

>>12314629
>CNN
Supported the invasion of Iraq [x]
Approved of the GFC banking bail-out [x]
Supported the invasion/ coup in Libya [x]
Supported ICE and the drug war [x]
Defended the NSA amid Snowden [x]
Openly campaigns for invading Syria [x]
Shat on OWS [x]
Shat on Bernie Sanders [x]

Sounds really left-wing to me.

>> No.12314743

>>12314712
>the result was increased income for healthcare companies
Actually basically every healthcare company pulled out of Obamacare because it nearly bankrupted them, which caused the few that remained to have such a dominate monopoly they could literally dictate how much they could charge to the government. Stop trying to talk about shit you have no fucking clue about.

>> No.12314750

HEY NIGGERS!
We were talking about the faggots shitty opinions on Lovecraft, take your bullshit to >>>/pol/

>> No.12314754

>>12314712
I agree with you.

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>>12314750
>discussing politics on /pol/

>> No.12314777

>>12314718
No, it was an example that having a certain party doesn't define your actions as your declared leaning.

>>12314743
they should all be bankrupted and replaced by a single system, that's the only way to make it viable and cheap for everyone. The job positions would be absorved by the state, and increased since every citizen would be covered.
It doesn't even need a ton of infrastructure, there already is medicaid that is exactly that but only covers heavy risk patients (old people).

It was a right wing solution turned even less functional. But it protected sponsors over the citizens so it was fine.

>> No.12314794

>>12314192
based

>> No.12314838

>>12314629
American Europhiles get their news almost exclusively from British newspapers like the independent which are way more popular in America than at home.

>> No.12314847

>>12314838
aren't all brit news sources owned by murdoch and his right wing team? is there a single news paper against austerity meassures? was there a single one promoting Corbyn?

>> No.12314856

>>12314611
they discuss howard, at some point they say that at least his mommy issues humanized him.

>> No.12314879

>>12314847
>aren't all brit news sources owned by murdoch and his right wing team?
No.

>is there a single news paper against austerity meassures?
Yes.

>was there a single one promoting Corbyn?
Several.

Speaking of Corbyn, he's more socially conservative than American Socialists and most of the DNC.

>> No.12314926

>>12314879
I don't keep a close watch of the UK, and we have been discussing that our definitions of certain words vary. What are the conservative policies he implemented?

>> No.12314944

Imagine actually listening to a castrated, left-wing ripoff of Sam Hyde

>> No.12314964

Was he actually that bad compared to most people at the time?

>> No.12314980

>>12314926
>What are the conservative policies he implemented?
He hasn't implemented anything, he isn't in power, but comparatively the guy hates freedom of movement, immigration, multiculturalism, supports regionalism and nationalism etc. his own party has compared him to far-right populists,

>> No.12314981

>>12314964
he was pretty mediocre, he survived more through marketing than actual quality.

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Casual reminder that nobody actually liked lovecraft on /lit/ before he started getting this negative attention from leftwing media.

>> No.12315013

>>12314192
BASED

>> No.12315024

>>12314980
oh, I meant proposed instead of implemented.
Regionalism and nationalism are usually left wing outside of the US, from the perspective of the ones being invaded people hate loosing jobs to china, de-industrialization, loosing independence and that kind of stuff. It's another one of those things that seem to switch sides when you cross the US border.
Can he get more against movement, immigration, and all those things than the brexit gang? Like, in terms of policies I can only imagine closing borders and slowly dying.

>> No.12315030

>>12314998
people always liked loevely
he was always pleb tier that you should read around highschool right after loving evil dead.

>> No.12315042

>>12314514
He thinks you need to be communist to be left wing.

>> No.12315053

>>12314998
lol no

>> No.12315062

>>12314575
>In the rest of the world we consider liberalism right wing
Because in most of the world liberals don't share much in common with american democrats.

>> No.12315081

>>12315042
a communist is an extreme left wing. a liberal isn't a middle ground, it's on the opposite side by definition.

>>12315062
I'd call them liberals, as in defenders of the magical invisible hand of the market, private enterprises taking over state duties, war as a means for profit, a clear focus on short term market goals over long term ones outside of military technology, having technology as a solution of human problems.

Obviously there are issues where they complement. Our liberals sell our land cheaply, your liberals buy it and make it a product that our liberals insist is better than anything we could do. And when we privatize it's a liberal from the first world buying it. Stuff like that, but it's just a different role in the same system.

But it's more than possible that I'm being selective, please explain to me the differences.

>> No.12315083

>>12315053
>>12315030
Lol yes.
For any of you who have actually wasted over a decade of your life on imageboards, such as myself. I find myself qualified to say that lovecraft was mostly disliked on /lit/.

>> No.12315099

>>12315083
just like we hate scifi
except that theres a permanent scifi thread and when a couple of guys happen to read the same book we get constant scifi threads like with The Executioner's Song.
The relaitonship hasn't changed.It's plebcore and it's fine if you read it when you were young and it's also fine to dislike him when you got to read better stuff.

>> No.12315100

>>12315081
>>12314575
american liberalism has nothing to do with "other countries" liberalism

people in south america and europe use "liberal" to refer to the classical liberal tradition ie locke or neoliberalism

>> No.12315104

>>12315099
How long have you been on /lit/, kiddo?

>> No.12315131

>>12315100
what's not traditional liberalism nor neoliberalism? what are the differences?

>>12315104
I used to have book threads in arcanine before this board existed.

>> No.12315153

>>12315131
Yeah right, kiddo.

>> No.12315159

>>12315131
well, an american should be more qualified to talk about this

see, when republicans call democrats "liberals" it makes absolutely no sense for us, because both republicans and democrats are liberal parties according to our definition of the word

>> No.12315196

>>12315159
they do this distinction between economic and social conservative vs liberal, and sometimes interchange liberal with progressive which is in itself a completely empty term because progress can be made in any direction.

But going back to the OP, Chapo uses the not-US definition of right and left, and all their interviewees do the same. So apparently it's physically possible for americans to get it.

>> No.12315205

>>12314144
he was a bad writer and his prose was dry

>> No.12315225

nigger man

>> No.12315355

>>12315062
this is definitely not true in europe. our right wing is much more right wing than than in the us. we still have parties calling gays degenerates and all that

this whole europe is more left leaning is a myth. look at what happened in france just this month when macron tried to raise the tax

>> No.12315368

>>12314192
now this is based and celpilled

>> No.12315397

>>12314192
Do you a source for this?

>> No.12315410

>>12314144
>ten seconds in
>sexist agoraphobic incel
What the fuck is wrong with these people? What made them this way?

>> No.12315438

>>12315410
keep listening and you might find out more, or how serious they're being.
But if you got triggered that's fine, some people are just sensible like that.

>> No.12315456

>>12314144
Actually those people arent that much different from 4channers.
Those neckbeards spend all their day in front of a pc. The posters in this website do the same.
Those faggots fap to degenerate porn. Users here do this as well.
Those people call their enemies incels... and the users here call them cucks.
Basically the alt right trump nation and bernie bros are more or less the same group of the people. This is the end of the west.

>> No.12315479

>>12315456
Oh, right, being the same in some stuff but not particular policies makes them the same. Politics are just about how you look and your personal life, not actual political actions.
also
>Those faggots fap to degenerate porn.
cat-eared big titted bimbos are god's miracle and there's nothing degenerate in them or the young kids that got bimbofied for not paying enough attention in church.

>> No.12315486

>>12315438
I kept listening and as I expected they're a bunch of politicised urban faggots

>> No.12315704

>>12314192
False. In a letter she wrote she described him as an "adequate lover." Which probably meant he was bad at sex

>> No.12316975

>>12314192
boss

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>>12314575
>In the rest of the world we consider liberalism right wing

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>>12315456
>4channers are a way

>> No.12317306

Knowing what others think of a book has only ever made me enjoy it less? Why does anyone bother listening at this point.

>> No.12317317

>>12314434
I thought you were talking about /lit/ at first

>> No.12317352

>>12315355
Idk what has to do with anything.

>> No.12317383

>>12314192
based volcel lovecraft

>> No.12317396

>>12314192

even though he was reluctant about sex he did do the act when his wife initiated it which makes him not an incel

>> No.12317397

newsflash: left and right are subjective, by definition. it's literally called fucking left and right, you utterly retarded self-satisfied smug eurocucks.

>> No.12317415

>>12314144
Holy shit they sound so fucking fat lmao

>> No.12317418

>>12317397
except that most of the world outside of the US agrees on what it means.

>>12317415
they are ugly as all sin.

>> No.12317422

>>12317418
liberalism was originally left wing, then it became right wing, now it's left wing again in america.
but yeah, this is totally a ironclad, defined system, and it's just le americans being silly xd am i right eurobros

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>This is probably the first Chapo episode I've listened to in almost two years where I felt really uncomfortable with the jokes. I think it was overboard with the mockery of symptoms of mental illness. What's more, a lot of the issues of Lovecraft's they poked fun at were out of his control, or didn't have to do with his actual racism. I love Chapo and am even traveling to see them live in two weeks, but I really hope they think a bit more critically about how their jokes affect others with mental illness or disability. The way in which they're framed matters, a lot.
>mfw

>> No.12317431

>>12314192
>>12315704
Sonia Greene spoke about this some time after Lovecraft's death. He was indifferent to sex throughout most of his life, and it wasn't a subject he was comfortable talking about even among his friends. However, before their wedding he did read up on the subject as much as he could because he wanted to fulfill his duties as husband. Because of this, he knew more technique than most men of his time, and was considered more than adequate by Sonia.
So no, he was neither an "incel", nor a bad lover.

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>>12317431
Wasn't he a lanklet too?
Probably had a huge dick.

>> No.12317440

>>12317436
He was 5'10"

>> No.12317511

Someone already said that Chapo is like /lit/ in petiness, ironic detachment and love for memes, but they also love mocking meme books in a way a better /lit/ used to.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1oR3_oRfn4&list=PLdx64kRvyP50XFRtT7Tq--eX_pXNDtjkM

>> No.12318040

>>12314293
Shocking

>> No.12319068

>>12315225
Niggerman
ftfy

>> No.12319109

watched their critique of starship troopers they make the same fucking point over and over again and i honestly believe they now think in tweet format. they are regurgitating their feed and people actually show up to watch this happen live. they can't even be bothered to sit up straight. i'd sooner attend a halo tournament than this brainlet convention.

>> No.12319162

lovecraft was psychologically fucked up by his mother . his mother told him he was ugly growing up which contributed to his reclusive behavior. his mother was also emotionally cold towards him which made him love shy and uncomfortable with being touched

>> No.12319176

>>12314174
that’s not how incel works, reddit

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>>12314293

>> No.12319273

>>12314144
>Chapo Trap House
I can't get over how fucking gay this name is.

>> No.12319286

>>12314144
>literature is just guys writin' stuff buddy, no reason to think about the ideas presented or themes at play

>> No.12319299

>>12314174
Why is it that the people that use "incel" as an insult are always date-raping virtue-signalling bugmen?

>> No.12319326

>>12314237
He's a kangaroo mate

>> No.12319337

Chapo Cuck Shack
Fuck off

>> No.12319340

>>12314144
>/lit/ liking an author solely because he was racist
Literally kill yourselves and stop reading genre hacks.

>> No.12319430

I don't like Lovecraft much but these people are really annoying. Especially the woman loudly interjecting unfunny comments causing one of the bugmen to break out hysterically in peals of laughter.

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I agree with some of the stuff Chapo guys say (although I don't listen to their podcast, because it's too soi-infused for my taste), but I wish they were a bit more daring and open minded.
It seems like all they want is an America with higher taxes and less military interventions. Basically, they're manchildren who don't realize what it takes for a society to function.
But I get it, going against the grain is dangerous, it really is. Consider that for every "anti-SJW" that makes it, five lose their job or get deplatformed (even some tame civcuck like Sargon).
I wonder if it's true then that leftists can only think in terms of money...

>> No.12319481

Starting to read more of his works why does he like to use the moon a lot? I've only read a few of his short stories so far but he constantly brings up "moon" or "waxing moon". I just think it is an interesting catch.

>> No.12319520

he was supposedly scared of grass, absolute basedcuck

>> No.12319525

>>12319520

Fungi and plants may as well have minds of their own. I mean some even have their own nervous system, that's fucking horrifying to imagine.

>> No.12319534

>>12319525
Prepare to be horrified
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UfMU9TsoEM

>> No.12319605

>>12319340
I'll read what I want faggot.

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>>12314144
>born in 1890
>racist
really? no shit? its almost like everyone was fucking racist back then. They seriously can't look back though the perspective of the times and overlook the fact that a person who lived back then said no-no words in his stories?
Like for shits sake the grandparents of these genetic dead ends probably were, it not more racist then the man they are making Syphilis jokes about constantly because they can't think of something actually humorous.
Its actually cringy how all their "jokes" get like one guy who laughs and then its it immediately gets drowned out by their own laughter.
reddit/10 OP nice find

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>>12314144
And now he's gone, but not forgotten
Let's dig him up and fuck him rotten

>> No.12320456

>>12314174
Not only did he marry, but he was actively pursued by his spouse for many years prior. The guy is not an incel, as he was disinterested and apathetic toward sex and romance.

>> No.12320488

>>12314293
To be fair, people on the other end of the lpolitical spectrum would fit right in. Mike Enoch, for example.

>> No.12320925
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>>12314174
>>12314192
>virulent antisemite marries a jewess
>refuses to fuck her
How based can one man be?

>> No.12320964

>>12320488
It's almost as if political ideology is for losers.

>> No.12321103

>>12319286
Except the key theme behind Lovecraft's work is man's insignificance in the universe. He wasn't a political propagandist.

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>>12314194
>I genuinely don't understand why so many people pay attention to some fat dude rambling about society
Because most people have bad taste

>> No.12321131

>>12317431
>named lovecraft
>studied the craft of love
What are some serious philosophical treatises on nominative determinism?

>> No.12321230

>>12314505
Even the most hardcore Lovecraft fans will admit that some of his work is fueled by racism. But not all of it is fueled by racism. There's a lot more subtext to Lovecraft's stories than "foreigners bad." You leftist faggots hone in on a single aspect of his beliefs and ignore everything else about him.

>> No.12321234

>>12314525
kek

>> No.12321313

>>12314144
This shit is exceedingly mean-spirited. Yes, I know I'm on 4chan but still. All they do is insult Lovecraft and laugh at his hardships. There's nothing clever about their shtick.

>> No.12321768

>>12320075
This is cringe.

>> No.12321774

>>12314525
Who is the beautiful woman on the right?

>> No.12322372

>>12314591
wrong, aesthetics are indicative of a healthy will to power and ultimately will to life. i'm not going to pay attention to children who can't dress themselves, refuse to exercise, and won't bother reading anything difficult before deciding to take it upon themselves to criticize complex systems and people whose motivations they are too stupid and unambitious to understand, because they are doing it out of resentment and hate, not out of genuine concern for the future of humanity.

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I'M GONNA SAY THE NAME OF LOVECRAFT'S CAT.

>> No.12322531

>>12322372
It makes sense to judge someone by aspects of their appearance that they do have control over like weight, clothing, and grooming. After all, how a man chooses to present himself is a good indication of what he values and how he wants to be viewed by society. However, judging a person by something that they have no control over, like bone structure, is pointless until there is scientific proof that these features are correlated with certain personality traits.

>> No.12322538

I read that the "Dream Quest" we got was an unrevised version, is it true?

>> No.12322550

>>12322538
Yes, he never actually intended to publish it. He mainly wrote it as a way to practice his style.

>> No.12322752

>>12314525
https://youtu.be/QpUqpLh0iRw

Lars von Trier is such a boss, I love it.

>> No.12322754

>>12322447
michelle OBAMA GET DOWN

>> No.12322793

>>12314228
>dressed just like the little boy in the back
what did God mean by this?

>> No.12322902

>>12322752
Oh shit, the level of cringe is so much that for the first time, I couldn't keep watching. I knew he had said this but I thought it was on a 1 to 1 interview, not on a press conference in front of hundreds of people including his actors

>> No.12322915

>>12314144
Lovecraft was shit because he was a one trick pony. All of his stories are about some deranged narrator stumbling upon an unknowable eldritch horror and become mad because of it.

The racism in his stories was unnecessary, but is not the reason he was a bad writer.

>> No.12322925

>>12314144
>quickly check reddit's literature board
>see Lovecraft thread with people calling him racist

Anon, I...

>> No.12323236

>>12322915
>All of his stories are about some deranged narrator stumbling upon an unknowable eldritch horror and become mad because of it.
You sound like someone who has never actually read Lovecraft, and only knows about him through memes. The "narrator going mad" trope isn't actually used very often, and not every story is about discovering an incomprehensible tentacle monstrosity.

>> No.12323329

>>12314144
the girl is so loud and annoying

>> No.12323842

>>12322531
it's not pointless although it needs to be more nuanced. a person's immutable physical traits are going to influence how their will to power takes shape because a person will be limited by their physical characteristics in many domains and will end up channeling their will away from things that they get no positive reinforcement from. so when you see ugly people who are bitter and hateful and can only tear things down, it's not too much of a leap to say that their doing so is an almost direct result of their ugliness.

>> No.12323925

>>12322915
nice memes

>> No.12323952

All races are not equal. I didn't know this was such a controversial fact. Black people run fast and jump high, yellow people are are smart and live long, etc. You may not like it, but this is how the world is.

>> No.12323961

>>12314575
>In the rest of the world we consider liberalism right wing,
No, we don't. Only retards like You do.

>> No.12323974

>>12320964
weird right?

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>>12314144
Why do you even pay attention to this shit? Who cares? Does it honestly surprise you that there are retards out there and that they have big mouths? Get a fucking grip on life already, because this shit is NOT worthy of a thread and only hurts the board by having it. Discuss literature or fuck off and let all the casual little idiots discuss whatever political horseshit they want to discuss in their own corner.

>> No.12324050

>>12322372
You haven't substantiated the hate and resentment motive, you've just thrown it in there at the end. What did the well-heeled hosts of CTH have you be resentful about, such that it drew them to socialism?

>> No.12324086

>>12321230
>You leftist faggots hone in on a single aspect of his beliefs and ignore everything else about him.
You people are unhinged. How did you get that from the original post?

>> No.12324618

>>12324050
see
>>12323842
they are ugly people with cushy upbringings who can't figure out how the world really works and want a bureaucracy to deliver all their needs to them

>> No.12324623

>>12324050
Ugliness is a part of it, but it's not the sole reason for resentment. Someone who is unattractive, but is intelligent or talented, can still be successful in society and have things to take pride in. People who are ugly, lack talent, and have no real ambition become resentful because they have nothing of their own to be proud of. They are genetics dead ends, and this know this deep down on some level. People who recognize that they are at the bottom of the hierarchy tend to resent not only the people above them, but the system itself. That's what Marxist ideologies are, in their most simplified form: deconstruction of hierarchy and social order. So, these people build their identities around being ""woke"" in order to garner a false sense of superiority over people who have probably achieved more than they ever will, and hope that the obese feminist they manage to land can pass as a 6/10 after they've had a few drinks.