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How come you never see any genius writer and intellectual whose absolutely ripped and shredded? It would only take about 2-3 hours a day of lifting and they can write the rest of the day,

>> No.12311333
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What the fuck did you just say about me, you little bitch?

>> No.12311367

>>12311328
>2-3 hours a day

What the fuck man, why would I spend so much time in such a useless activity ?
1h would be fine though

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>> No.12311381

Because 90% of philosophy and writing is a COPE for being genetically inferior.

>> No.12311393

>>12311381
Plato was yoked.

>> No.12311429

>>12311393
>How come you never see any genius writer and intellectual whose absolutely ripped and shredded?
Plato was a warrior and won the olympic games

>> No.12311470

>>12311328
Because prior to the 20th century almost no one in the leisured classes valued physical appearance and bodily strength as much as we do. Not saying either is good or bad, but that's just how it was.

>> No.12311472

Aeschylus fought at Marathon, Salamis and Plataea, so would have been pretty stacked

>> No.12311493

>>12311429
I wasn't joking. Plato isn't even his real name, it's a nickname he received meaning "broad" for his fucking massive shoulders.

>> No.12311498

>>12311470
>20th
Byron would pound your ass

>> No.12311501

>>12311493
Fucking Based

>> No.12311502

>>12311493
>when you realise most the Greeks kept their wrestling names
I'm not sure how I feel about this feel

>> No.12311507

>>12311498
>Byron would pound your ass
UwU whats this

no but seriously I didn't say there weren't exceptions, but Byron was clearly tying to embody classical ideals which were more inclined towards the health of the body. unusual in his time even amongst other poets and artists

>> No.12311516

>>12311507
Byron made physical fitness a thing again for the leisure classes in a way it arguably hadn't been since Henry VIII forced everyone to joust.

>> No.12311518

>>12311507
Also Byron didn't give a fuck about health. He thought dying of TB was super romantic. He did however care about achieving physical feats of mythic Greeks.

>> No.12311523

>what is diet
It really wasn't possible to be eating x pounds of lean protein back in the day, so a modern physique was out of the question.

>> No.12311528

>>12311516
Byron was based but if people followed his lead on fitness, what we're talking about is a smallish fashion trend, compared to the complete normalisation of strenuous physical exercise that has occurred in the 20th century. My only real point is I think that's the explanation for OP's question, most classical writers belonged to the leisure classes, most members of that class saw strenuous exercise as unnecessary or actively unhealthy, and ergo almost no classical writers are physically impressive compared to modern fitness hobbyists. The shift in class perspective on physical fitness is a very real and very recent historical shift I think

>> No.12311533

>>12311523
>The Mediterranean is devoid of fish
Because the ancients ate them. That's why the Greeks are full of fish that don't exist any more. Oysters were poor people food until the Victorians ate so many they became rare.

>> No.12311550

because it would have been even more pointless than it is now when no one cared about being ripped

>> No.12311564

>>12311528
>smallish fashion trend
We're talking about a major fashion trend which at least rivals Beau Brummell's effect on clothing. The up surge in male sports and the invention of swimming as a sport only happen that century because of Byron changing the male image so drastically at the start of the century. Being an active male became the Victorian ideal, and that's largely because of Byron. Shelley's effects of vegetarianism and nudist anarchy and the like found some small pockets of support, which blossomed after the Victorian era, but Byron made swimming popular from nothing, and did it so fast that by the next monarch, it's a sport even the queen engages in. Swimming was actively unhealthy and pointless because all you'd do is get muscles or cholera or plague, until Byron proved he was better than Leander and then everyone starts doing it. Dismissing Byron's effect on 19th Century fashion as a smallish trend, is like calling Alexander the Great's campaigns a small expansion.

>> No.12311568

>>12311528
They would've seen it as unrefined and brutish, in opposition to their entire image and culture. Even conducting scientific experiments was in the same boat initially.

>> No.12311576

>>12311528
>>12311528
>>12311564

I had no idea society was actually like this. Where can I find info on what the actual leisure classes thought about stuff like this?

>> No.12311579

It takes more effort to manage and workout 'properly' than to write stuff. Although doable, it's something that once you started, you must continue doing it until your body gives up kind of thing.

>> No.12311602

>>12311576
https://youtu.be/FUwhSN1MsyI
There's reams of stuff on this. People just avoid it because of its association with the other kind of gender studies, but people write about it in most all eras. Make sure to read blurbs before buying books YMMV etc

>> No.12311636

>>12311533
Big brain post here

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>>12311328

>> No.12311675

>>12311669
Lead vocalist of Disturbed or mediocre fantasy writer? You decide!

>> No.12311683

Jean Baudrillard

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>>12311493
CHAD-philosophy

>> No.12311732

>>12311669
China is JACKED

>> No.12311760

>>12311732
Imagine being called China

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>>12311328
George R.R. Martin was ripped in his youth.
Trump was as well, even to this day he is very healthy and strong for his age.
>inb4 he's not a writer
He wrote The Art of the Deal, a NY Times bestseller. It's one of the bestselling books of the 20th century. There is no thing that man can't do.

>> No.12311765

>>12311720
>one copy of Mein Kampf please

>> No.12311767

>>12311328
Some of the Ancient Greeks like Socrates and Plato would have spent a decent amount of time working out, doing athletics, or training for soldierly acts. Also Socrates worked as a stonemason so he was probably at least a bit ripped for hours of hard labour.

>> No.12311771

Uh, literally me?