filthy cross-site posters

[Anonymous No.12309335]

https://www.reddit.com/r/books/comments/aaqbov/4chan_lits_2018_top_100_books_of_all_time/

[Anonymous No.12309340]

>>12309335
nobody reads harry potter, people just buy them ironically.

[Anonymous No.12309365]

Can you imagine actually thinking this place has taste and is full of snobs? I’m the only legitimate snob on this whole goddam website

[Anonymous No.12309368]

>>12309365
Spiritual snobbery is still snobbery

[Anonymous No.12309378]

>>12309335
>They do hate black people, but they like Latin American literature.
lmao

[Anonymous No.12309417]

>Unless I missed anything or was tricked by any pen names I don't know of, there are a grand total of 2 books by women on this list (both by Virginia Woolf).

>And I didn't check the race of each author I don't know, but the list seems to be made up of white guys with a couple Japanese men thrown in.

>Given that it exclusively focuses on a relatively small segment of the population, I don't find it to be a very impressive or useful list. There are obviously some good books there, but there's so, so much more to literature than this.

[Anonymous No.12309426]

>>12309417
>but there's so, so much more to literature than this.

This is correct though, but not because of "muh dead white guys". /lit/ is really narrow-minded.

[Anonymous No.12309438]

hahahahahahaha

[Anonymous No.12309451]

>>12309335
It makes me sick. I blame the butter fly girl, the guy who presses enter after referencing a post, and porn addict guy. If /lit/ was a dictatorship, whoever posted that thread would be charged with treason and crucified.

[Anonymous No.12309468]

>>12309451
>I blame the butter fly girl
wait, that poster is a girl? why haven't I seen her Jezebels?

[Anonymous No.12309469]

Is there any way we could just delete reddit from existence?

[Anonymous No.12309474]

>>12309468
newfag
>>12309469
anything is possible with enough autism

[Anonymous No.12309479]

It’s not the same butterfly btwfyi

[Anonymous No.12309492]

>not enough women and minorities

Maybe if they stopped whining about the same shit over and over again I'd bother to read. I mean, Le Guin and Delaney are very entertaining, so it's not impossible.

The idea of reading yet another slice of life novel where the protagonist of color has to deal with the mundane cruelty of life while whitey keeps them down, it just ensleepens me.

[Anonymous No.12309495]

>>12309468
Imagine being this much of a newfriend, Jesus Christ

[Anonymous No.12309497]

>>12309479
really? what happened to the real butterfly? did she finally run off with that mademoiselle chick and squirt out some lesbian babies?

/tv/'s resident namefags were more entertaining anyway

[Anonymous No.12309507]

Imagine actually thinking this

[Anonymous No.12309513]

>>12309335
After reading all their comments one by one I got AIDS in my eyes.
>>12309378
FUCK NIGGERS, WE ARGIES REPRESENT THE LAST STRONGHOLD AGAINST THE KARA BOGA INVASION!

[Anonymous No.12309514]

>>12309507
>0m
you posted that, didn't you?

[Anonymous No.12309566]

Look at that, all those good posters, actually interested in reading, that would post here if not for the /pol/yps.
Sad!

[Anonymous No.12309577]

>>12309566
At least poltards are useful for keeping the worst of plebbit away.

[Anonymous No.12309585]

>>12309566
Nigger

[Anonymous No.12309591]

>>12309492
>only concept of female writers is fucking Le Guin

read more pseud

[Anonymous No.12309596]

>>12309566
>/pol/yps
This is honestly probably the cringiest nickname for a boards users I've seen and I don't even go on /pol/.

[Anonymous No.12309597]

>>12309577
/pol/tards are redditors though

[Anonymous No.12309609]

>>12309597
>reddit is literally stormfront
that's a fake spin thought up by some assblasted afrotrannies from reddit.

[Anonymous No.12309621]

>>12309591
>doesn't list every good female writer on the planet
>obviously only knows the one he does list

autism

[Anonymous No.12309622]

>>12309566
Cuck

[Anonymous No.12309635]

>>12309378
>>12309417
>>12309438
>>12309507
this is why we must do our absolute best to discourage redditors from colonizing our boards. i, for one, commend /pol/ (despite their shortcomings) for making this board relatively inaccessible to normalfags

[Anonymous No.12309657]

>>12309426
We don’t really have much time to branch out anon. Our backlogs span to ancient times. I try to read a contemporary book a year but it’s hard man

[Anonymous No.12309667]

>>12309335
>Sorry to break it to you, but literature is mostly a European tradition, as well as its former colonies like the US and Latin America. It's a Western thing, basically. No other civilization has produced such rich body of literature. Tell me a book written by some black person that is better than The Divine Comedy, The Odyssey, Ulysses, Moby-Dick, King Lear, Don Quixote, Les Misérables, or Pale Fire, etc. ONE book. You talk the talk, but do you walk the walk? There just aren't any, and it isn't anyone's fault.

kek

[Anonymous No.12309670]

>>12309514
God no

[Anonymous No.12309679]

>>12309596
ok

[Anonymous No.12309680]

>>12309667
based and redpilled

[Anonymous No.12309685]

>>12309667
Invisible Man is better than Les Pizz and Shit Fire.

[Anonymous No.12309687]

yikes

[None !eXtij3cjWM No.12309693]

>>12309635
/pol/ is reddit thought

[Anonymous No.12309700]

filtered

[Anonymous No.12309701]

>>12309685
Delusional SJW

[Anonymous No.12309707]

>>12309513
Based Gauchoposter

[Anonymous No.12309716]

>>12309685
Yeah, the Wells one, not the nigger one.

[Anonymous No.12309720]

>>12309635
so new it hurts

[Anonymous No.12309725]

>>12309693
>>12309720
not arguments

[Anonymous No.12309727]

>>12309335
>>12309340
>>12309365
>>12309368
>>12309378
>>12309417
>>12309426
>>12309438
>>12309451
>>12309468
>>12309469
>>12309474
>>12309479
>>12309492
>>12309495
>>12309497
>>12309507
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>>12309577
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>>12309597
>>12309609
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>>12309680
>>12309685
>>12309687
>>12309693
>>12309700
>>12309701
>>12309707
>>12309716
>>12309720
Fuck cross-posters and fuck redditors.

[Anonymous No.12309734]

>>12309417
Women writers are even more overrated than male ones. Male writers have good pages, while female writers have good lines.

[Anonymous No.12309737]

>>12309725
t. redditor

[Anonymous No.12309741]

>>12309635
/pol/ is literally Facebook group tier, so I don’t know what you mean by inaccessible

[Anonymous No.12309742]

>>12309727
>Toni Morrison
HAHAHAHAHAHA

[Anonymous No.12309748]

>>12309741
what an autistic description

[Anonymous No.12309757]

>>12309335
>they could not have put together a more banal top 100 if they'd tried. most of these names should be familiar to anyone who's looked at any "top 100 books" list anywhere.

SEETHING

[Anonymous No.12309759]

>>12309635
Anon, I...

[Anonymous No.12309769]

>>12309748
it’s accurate, go back to your Facebook group

[Anonymous No.12309781]

>>12309769
>t. autist

[Anonymous No.12309811]

>>12309716
t. genre pleb

[Anonymous No.12309818]

>>12309577
I would rather have plebs than cancer.

[Anonymous No.12309843]

>>12309818
>le cancer
i can't imagine you're older than 15

[Anonymous No.12309852]

>>12309335
>/lit/ is full of the snobbiest of snobs... and I say that as a snob. I would not recommend going there. Nonetheless, their year-end lists are always excellent — as is again the case this year. Bravo to them!

[Anonymous No.12309876]

serious question, what is actually wrong with redditors

[Anonymous No.12309880]

>>12309876
Late capitalism

[Anonymous No.12309887]

>>12309876
nothing wrong with having some quality inclusive fun with your gf and her new bf.

[Anonymous No.12309889]

>>12309335
>Hmm... interesting to say the least. There are a few I’m surprised about, like infinite jest. I’m even a great admirer of Foster Wallace (I’ve read many of his essays) but I couldn’t get through more than a hundred or so pages of that behemoth. Also, no dickens? And no female authors besides Woolf? Toni Morrison has some great ones. And no real modern-day books either. Like, I would have thought at least a few people would put ones like The Kite Runner or The Goldfinch

lol

[Anonymous No.12309899]

>>12309876
Their culture runs counter to a huge portion of what makes 4chan worthwhile.

[Anonymous No.12309910]

>>12309667
>-8

[Anonymous No.12309919]

>>12309876
they're boring normal white guys in their late 20's. there is nothing that makes any redditor really interesting. their entire personality is a bunch of cultural signifiers.
4chan is a bunch of lonely incoherent retards but at least a lonely incoherent retard is more fun to be around than a guy who works IT, doesn't want kids, and cannot wait for the new avengers movie.

[Anonymous No.12309926]

>>12309910
plebbitors don't like the truth so they downvote

[Anonymous No.12309931]

>>12309926
they report posts for racism here.

[Anonymous No.12309933]

>>12309919
>the late 20s college dropout who posts about semen reabsorption and provides critique of translations of books he hasn't read at all is fun to be around

[Anonymous No.12309934]

>>12309876
They are Nietzsche's last man

[Anonymous No.12309939]

>>12309919
reddit has plenty of poc, women, fags and all kinds of "otherkin".

[Anonymous No.12309963]

>redditors praising another shitty list of bog-standard classics and stale /lit/ memes
>redditors deriding a list of actual classics on a forum that thinks Harry Potter and Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy are the best books ever written
>poleddit embryos ITT thanking themselves for "saving lit" from reddit
>pseudtastic fedoras ITT thinking that reposting someone else's meme opinions on Kant and Deleuze makes them any better than an average redditor who sincerely enjoys his genreshit

[Anonymous No.12309968]

>>12309933
unironically yes

[Anonymous No.12309985]

>>12309335
>Yet the list includes writers who struggled and weren't born into particular wealth or pomposity like Joyce, Borges, Cervantes (wrote without an arm while prisoner), Bolaño, Burgess, García Márquez (who by the way comes from a literal banana rural town lost in Colombia and won the Nobel) , Dostoyevsky (prisoner in Siberia for years, almost executed), etc. What's your excuse?

[Anonymous No.12309991]

>>12309933
i mean at least he's funny

[Anonymous No.12310017]

>>12309635
/pol/ went to shit long time ago.

[Anonymous No.12310032]

>>12309566
They’re already here, scroll through this thread
>>12309727
>look mom i replied to the whole thread
based

[Anonymous No.12310054]

>>12309933
Much more interesting company than Reddit bugman #582891486

[Anonymous No.12310066]

>>12310054
Maybe if you're new here. It's all very mundane, predictable and tiresome both on reddit and lit.

[Anonymous No.12310068]

The list is decent, but I'm surprised to see Moby Dick and Blood Meridian so high.

>>12309566
>redditors
>actually interested in reading

>>12309635
/pol/ is basically r/the_donald now. Go back to your shit board full of mutts sucking jew dick, this is a place to discuss literature.

[Anonymous No.12310077]

>>12310068
Nazis are what ruined /pol/

[Anonymous No.12310080]

>if you don't harbour an irrational, obsessive level of hatred for /pol/ you must browse it
'no'

[Anonymous No.12310086]

>>12310077
I don't care. Now, go back to /pol/ or the_donald.

[Anonymous No.12310096]

>>12310066
reread the thread linked in the OP and try to tell me our pseuds and nazis and tranny’s are not better than these “people”

[Anonymous No.12310124]

>>12309335
>None of those names mean anything to me, save perhaps Baldwin and Butler. But for god's sake, can they write about anything that isn't race-related somehow? It's getting old. And to consider any of those you mentioned near the works I mentioned is an absurd delusion. And Dumas was not even black. Imagine having such a poor literary tradition that you have to claim mixed writers from France.

he's right y'know

[Anonymous No.12310140]

>>12309734
Woolf is underrated desu

[Anonymous No.12310147]

>>12310140
she's on the list, though

[Anonymous No.12310152]

>>12310140
Woolf is overrated.

[Anonymous No.12310157]

>>12310152
Shut the fuck up, nigger

[Anonymous No.12310161]

>>12310157
toastie roastie

[Anonymous No.12310164]

>>12310124
Dumas' grandfather was black, I think. Can't be bothered to look it up and don't care, his books are good

[Anonymous No.12310176]

>>12309335
>I feel the same. It's not even a "snobby" list really. That's to say, all the titles are well-known and well established in the canon without much controversy.
>It's more of a "I'm a Sophomore English Major" list.
How do you respond, /lit/?

[Anonymous No.12310178]

>>12310164
the father was a mulatto, not a black.

[Anonymous No.12310182]

>>12310176
>responding to reddit

[Anonymous No.12310211]

>>12310178
Father being mulatto therefore the grandfather (or grandmother) was black. I said that I think his grandfather was black.

[Anonymous No.12310226]

Do I count as a redditor if I haven't posted on that site for four years, and I only used it reluctantly because I didn't know any better places to discuss my interests? I really wish I had never used reddit, I don't want anything to do with the retards on that site.

[Anonymous No.12310229]

>>12310211
No, the grandmother was black, the grandfather was white. Bothe were Francophones.

[Anonymous No.12310244]

>>12309335
honestly the fact that some faggot made a picture like that is evidence enough that /lit/ has been overcome by the identitarian nature of the reddit cultural takeover of 4chan

[Anonymous No.12310257]

>>12310229
Based grandad going after the sweet dark sugar

[Anonymous No.12310269]

>>12310244
There's also the fact that OPand some others in this thread had to have browsed reddit to find out what redditors were posting.

[Anonymous No.12310271]

>>12309727
The Kite Runner in this list? Fuck of.

The only ones who like Khaled Hosseini’s romanticized orientalist garbage are deluded hippies who have no awareness nor any respect for actual Afghan culture.

The author only lived in Afghanistan for a grand total of three years of his life, and has spent most of life in the UK and Iran. Throwing a couple of Pashto words randomly into English sentences is enough to transport his audiences into Afghanistan, it would seem.

What a hack.

[Anonymous No.12310336]

>>12310269
There was an other reddit thread the other day too. I'm fine if the mods just close them down for inadvertently shilling the competition. 4channel strong and all that.

[Anonymous No.12310381]

>>12310271
This.

[Anonymous No.12310432]

>You can filter out words and phrases in certain trigger posts, so you could avoid most of those experiences if you really want to.
Oh god, how did they find out?

[Anonymous No.12310458]

>>12310432
Try this one

[Anonymous No.12310484]

>>12309335
>It's also sad that men are expected and allowed to only prefer male authors--as a woman, I've been reading male authors my whole life (even more than I read women, given the bias in the education system and publishing industry) and don't have a problem with stories that aren't from my gender's perspective. Which seems like a much healthier way to exist than being only interested in writers who look like you.

Really makes you think

[Anonymous No.12310512]

>>12309919
>they're boring normal white guys in their late 20's.
it's not 2008 anymore, reddit is fucking massive and filled with every sort of demographic

[Anonymous No.12310520]

>>12310484
the mind of a redditor is truly a fascinating thing

[Anonymous No.12310524]

>>12310484
Makes me think gender perspective is bullshit. I've read Woolf and Shelley the most out of female authors and particularly a book like Frankenstein has a non-gendered narrator, I would just about bet that any 11yo who doesn't know would think it was written by a male, so fucked if I know what they mean by gender perspective maybe they mean if it's clearly from a female perspective it's objectively not as good. Sometimes I read stuff and if I think about who the unknown or unfamiliar with author might be I sometimes think it's a woman but it's a man usually.

[Anonymous No.12310537]

>>12309727
>I'm even a great admirer of Foster Wallace

[Anonymous No.12310560]

>>12310512
It's the average person who speaks English and has access to the internet. Hence the quality of its content. Read any thread on the front page, it's straight out of facebook

[Anonymous No.12310576]

>>12309876
I know right, theyre people just like us

Edit: Wow guys thanks for all the upvotes and the golden badge thingy it means so much to me ill kepp on posting quality posts and comments please look through all my post history im a very intellignet interesting guy

Edit: typo

[Anonymous No.12310589]

>>12310576
>re-edits the post

[Anonymous No.12310660]

>>12310560
reading reddit makes me feel genuinely angry, i cant do it. And basically nothing on 4chan does that to me

[Anonymous No.12310697]

HAHAHA NIGGERS OH BOY

[Anonymous No.12310710]

>>12309727
>There are a few I'm surprised about, like Infinite Jest
Pretty surreal to read.

[Anonymous No.12310719]

>>12310710
IJ is manchild memery

[Anonymous No.12310743]

>>12309335
>And you think, in all time, only white men and Virginia Woolf have been good writers?

Um, yeah.

[Anonymous No.12310751]

>>12309335
>Just astonishes me, that. How is it an okay list? It's the most concentrated dose of world class literature you're going to find in a single image. Tolstoy, Dostoevsky, Pynchon, Nabokov, Dickens, Hamsun, Woolf... What more could you want?

[Anonymous No.12310781]

>>12310743
I don't get why people get angry at this. The intense focus on the art of writing is a purely European and European exported phenomenon, no other culture valued it like them, they had their own mediums of expression. The idea that the vast majority of the most recognized masterpieces of writing is done by European males seems obvious.... who's the other common group? Japanese. The guys who who's custom involved writing a poem before death. So surprising...
If it was a list of the top 100 architectural wonders and 99% of them are European than that's dumb, or most visual mediums besides oil painting. Even just contempory literature. This list is all literature

[Anonymous No.12310789]

>>12310751
it's like every post on Reddit could be copypasta
how do they do it

[Anonymous No.12310800]

>>12310743
Dumas wasn't white. His grandma was a negress. Also Irish aren't white so

[Anonymous No.12310807]

>>12310781
There's some good Islamic literature which /lit/ hasn't really been exposed to or has been mildly resistant too. Probably some good Sudaca stuff which I don't know yet aswell.

[Anonymous No.12310817]

>>12310807
post some good islamic literature

[Anonymous No.12310828]

>>12309876
over-socialisation. high agreeableness low openness to experience.

[Anonymous No.12310848]

>>12309417
>there's so much more to literature than 100 books
Well no shit

[Anonymous No.12310976]

>>12310660
I feel the same way. There's something about it that turns people into spineless manchild puddles. Upvoting just plays into everything I guess and compels people to seek validation by behaving in the most obsequious and conformist way possible.

[Anonymous No.12310983]

>>12310660
go on /v/ waifufagging and /tv/ capeshit threads and just lurk for an hour or so
>>12310697
hi how is your experience on 4chan going for you friend? have you acclimatized yourself thoroughly, do you find anything disagreeable or overly esoteric regarding the interpersonal and cultural mores and ethics held to on this image board?

[Anonymous No.12310996]

>>12310983
i find tv hilarious honestly
it's not a serious board

[Anonymous No.12311001]

FUCK REDDITORS

[Anonymous No.12311011]

>>12311001
Kill the animals

[Anonymous No.12311022]

>mfw I've only read 15 books on that list

[Anonymous No.12311035]

>>12311022

ive read 3

[Anonymous No.12311038]

>>12310996
Yes I too enjoy baneposting and pretending to be a pedophile that doesn't justify the capeshit

[Anonymous No.12311041]

>>12311038
>pretending

[Anonymous No.12311053]

>>12311041
i was being sarcastic, I only post in simpsons and accessible 80's and 90's kino threads because i'm a film pleb even for middlebrow shit. They're joking though, most of them are incel faggots who want mommygf more than anything else.

[Anonymous No.12311058]

>>12311053
>Simpsons
Are you the disgusting Sneedposter?

[Anonymous No.12311065]

>>12311058
No, i laugh at people who get mad at sneedposters. I don't actually like the Simpsons, Futurama is superior.

[Anonymous No.12311073]

world class literature my ass, stoner and no longer human is just a result of myopic bugmen thinking "omg he's just like me" constitutes good writing

but i wouldnt call the fact that they are on this list and Yourcenar not misoginy, just shit taste

[Anonymous No.12311080]

>>12309335
Oh fuck this.
If you have an account, downvote that shit. Fuck off normies.

You know, I detest goreposters, but its times like these that make me at least somewhat grateful to them for securing 4chans utter repellancy of Reddit and Tumblr. It's a shame /lit/, as a blue board, doesn't quite have an equivalent (aside from our /pol/ residents I suppose).

[Anonymous No.12311128]

>>12311080
Don't worry. There's more than enough threads here to repel anyone from reddit or Tumblr on their topic alone, especially when they read through one and see 'nigger' posted with no context regardless of what thread they're reading.

[Anonymous No.12311133]

test test where are the up and downvotes here?

[Anonymous No.12311137]

>>12311133
You upvote by replying "based" or "based and redpilled"
you downvote by replying "cringe" or "yikes"

[Anonymous No.12311152]

>>12311128
Agreed.

Goddamn I hate NIGGERS and reddit.

[Anonymous No.12311159]

>>12309919
This is a post that i have been waiting for. I feel the same way, when i see these kinds of boring faggots post here it just makes me angry that they think i need to hear their fucking banal ass opinion on anything.

[Anonymous No.12311169]

>>12311137
based & based and redpilled

[Anonymous No.12311174]

>>12310817
Hafez, Khayyam, Rumi, Saadi for starters

[Anonymous No.12311179]

>>12310817
Pythagoras

[Anonymous No.12311180]

>>12309417
Big-brained redditfag

[Anonymous No.12311195]

>>12310983
To be honest, i don't want to be that guy but the way /v/ and every normalfag board uses the term "waifu" makes me sick.
No its not that cute video game girl you like to masturbate to, it is a fictional character that you are UNIRONICALLY in LOVE with. Its something strange and beautiful not some bastardized piece of /v/ lingo that you can slap onto any old fag who likes to make bimbos in skyrim.

[Anonymous No.12311203]

>>12309417
The only 3 women that belong on this list are Woolf, LeGuin and Yourcenar

[Anonymous No.12311229]

>>12310077
No, Nazis were always meant to be there. Trump General fags are those that ruined it.

[Anonymous No.12311249]

>>12311133
yikes cringe

[Anonymous No.12311258]

>>12311022
We were all new to literature once, anon :)

[Anonymous No.12311261]

>>12309635

Kys snownigger

[Anonymous No.12311349]

>>12310751
>>12310789
What's the problem? The guy's just saying they're good books. How is this in anyway way a bad comment? Guy seems to be defending /lit/... So what is it? Now we think that the top 100 list is shit? What do you guys want? Seriously. Answer me that.

[Anonymous No.12311364]

>>12311349
Yeah, idk wtf is going on with /lit/ anymore, mate. That comment they greentexted was defending the top 2018 and they say it's "reddit". wtf?

[Anonymous No.12311408]

>>12310751
What? So we're all hating on the 2018 list now? What's bad about that comment?

[Anonymous No.12311411]

based reddit spy exposing the cross-posters

[Anonymous No.12311426]

>>12309365
You’re a retard, it’s not about being a snob, redditor, it’s about being a square which you admittedly seem to be

[Anonymous No.12311435]

>>12311349
anything reddit says is bad

[Anonymous No.12311438]

>>12311435
Even when someone comments that the list is good and praises serious literature? That's nonsensical.

[Anonymous No.12311450]

No Culture of Critique? wtf

[Anonymous No.12311451]

>>12311450
You're a redditor by way of thought

[Anonymous No.12311453]

>everyone complaining about how sexist and racist /lit/ is and how the list isn't diverse enough
>unironically trowing around "incel" and "trigger words"
i sincerely didn't believe such people aren't /pol/ strawmen, thanks reddit!

[Anonymous No.12311454]

>>12311435
So you're gonna let them dictate what you think or say huh?

[Anonymous No.12311458]

This is the top voted comment right now

[Anonymous No.12311459]

>>12311453
>implying /lit/ isn't full of incels, racists and mysoginists
>caring what reddit thinks

[Anonymous No.12311460]

Tbh even lit has fallen to shit. This is the worst list in years.
>Toklien has 2 books.
> Hesse has 2 books.
1984 is 21st.
Pushkin has zero books.
I am honestly surprised the Peterson books didnt mae it to this list with those pseud retards taking all over the board.

[Anonymous No.12311466]

LADIES AND FUCKING GENTLEMEN. We have a winner.
>Would rather read Harry potter than about 90% of this list. I dreaded these books in high school. Super boring usually.

[Anonymous No.12311474]

I see more posts on here complaining about reddit complaining about the lack of diversity than I see posts on reddit complaining about the lack of diversity desu

[Anonymous No.12311480]

>>12311460
Do you even know what pseud means? Evidently not.. Stop using buzzwords for which you don't even know the definition. Pseud means pretentious, someone who thinks they know a lot about great art. So saying "Tolkien has 2 books" doesn't work. Tolkien is generally considered trash in comparison to the great works of literature. So how in anyway is someone who reads Tolkien a pseud?

[Anonymous No.12311488]

>>12311080
>Oh fuck this.
>If you have an account, downvote that shit. Fuck off normies.
This is the most try-hard post I’ve ever read, I sincerely hope you’re trolling

[Anonymous No.12311504]

>>12311001
Jesus Christ is dog catcher not a profession anymore?

[Anonymous No.12311506]

>>12311480
>mae it to this list with those pseud retard
Pseud derives for the greek word (ψεύδω) which means lying aka being fake. A lot of posters try to appear as intellectuals.... but they end up being fake garbage intellectuals bascially based on the book recomendations they keep making in these boards, which means the board is full of pseuds, got it faggot ?

[Anonymous No.12311515]

>>12311506
Yes, but the guy greentexted Tolkien. Which is anti-pseud. It goes against the definition you gave and yet he attributed it to "pseud retards taking all over the board". Which makes no sense. I'll give another example. It's like if someone said you were a pseud for reading Twilight. That makes no sense. If someone said you were a pseud for reading and continually talking about tractatus logico philosophicus then that WOULD make sense and be valid.

[Anonymous No.12311547]

>>12310226
The fact you felt the need to ask this question means that you have to go back

[Anonymous No.12311552]

>>12311001
Remember kids, don't play videogames or this is what happens to you.

[Anonymous No.12311554]

>>12311454
reddit

[Anonymous No.12311563]

>>12311547
I'm never going back to that shithole. I don't consider myself a redditor, and despise reddit. I wanted to know what so many anons meant by the use of the word 'redditor'.

[Anonymous No.12311581]

>>12311563
it's a catch-all term for someone who acts like the reddit stereotype

[Anonymous No.12311633]

Kill redditors, any redditor that crossposts In this site deserves to die in an acid attack

[Anonymous No.12311639]

>>12309577
>>12309635
>mfw based /pol/ actually improves the quality of other boards

[Anonymous No.12311640]

>>12311633
Reddit is great for the porn now that Tumblr has gone full retard, but as soon as you stray outside the porn subs, it becomes a horrible cesspool.

[Anonymous No.12311649]

>>12311639
/lit/ was born as a colony of /pol/ anyway with the Mishima and gay Evola posting, although /pol/ is poorly read any negative reaction to /pol/ is mislead on this board lol, most people who criticize /pol/ on this board are either /r9k/ newfags or just to put it simply redditors themselves, but I guess it don’t really matter since /pol/ is probably just as bad with reddit cross posters as any other board on this website

[Anonymous No.12311665]

>>12309876
too much atheists

[Anonymous No.12311668]

>>12310520
No it isn't.
>>12310524
>so fucked if I know what they mean by gender perspective
They don't know either. They're idiots.

[Anonymous No.12311682]

>>12309335
They're making fun of us for putting Infinite Jest so high

[Anonymous No.12311685]

>>12309667
>You talk the talk, but do you walk the walk?
Unironically better prose than most of /lit/.

[Anonymous No.12311701]

>>12311682
They are not wrong about that and we know it.

[Anonymous No.12311725]

>>12310807
No there isn't, stop lying to yourself and others.
>>12311474
Back you go.

[Anonymous No.12311726]

>>12309635
Kek, look at that upset reddit tranny that has replied like 10 times to your post.

[Anonymous No.12311729]

>>12309335
I told you fags about making these top 100’s. I told you several times it’d bring major outsider attention, like it always does. They’re not interesting or an actual representation yet chartfags stubbornly make them anyway. Fuck chartfags.

[Anonymous No.12311735]

>>12309635
FUCKING NORMALFAGS GET OFF MY BOARD

[Anonymous No.12311740]

>>12309876
Reddit is too popular, so the discussions there tend to be monopolized by your average millenial. The books subreddit for example is full of easily consumpted and shallow "literature" for young adults.

[Anonymous No.12311741]

>>12311633
It is the will of Allah.

[Anonymous No.12311745]

>>12311741
Takbir!

[Anonymous No.12311750]

>>12309876
because they're people that willingly hang out on a platform which purged basically any sub that isn't about being a biracial transfaggot.

[Anonymous No.12311787]

>>12309635
based

[Anonymous No.12311794]

>>12309876

[Anonymous No.12311810]

>r*ddit still coming to terms with sexism and racism on 4chan
never gets old

[Anonymous No.12311814]

>>12309335
What a shithole.
>great list but where da women and nigger authors at :((

[Anonymous No.12311838]

>>12311729
They're a long-standing tradition by now you fag.

[Anonymous No.12311842]

>>12311794
You're a faggot.

[Anonymous No.12311851]

>>12309933
yes

[Anonymous No.12311855]

that entire subreddit is awful. look at this: https://www.reddit.com/r/books/comments/aaqlhb/do_you_guys_ever_read_lower_level_reading_books/

[Anonymous No.12311856]

>>12311842
no u

[r/books No.12311860]

I really like your list \lit\ but I’m just curious, why is the Bible so high? I don’t think it’s very good literature, too incoherent and honestly pretty dated.

[Anonymous No.12311864]

>>12310068
>surprised to see Moby Dick so high
why are you surprised to see the greatest novel of all time rated highly?

[Anonymous No.12311865]

>>12311729
the charts are so fucking pointless

[Anonymous No.12311868]

>>12311860
EMERGENCY
CALL THE GORE AND SCATFAGS

[Anonymous No.12311869]

>>12311860
holy shit lol

[Anonymous No.12311875]

>>12311058
there's a sneedposter deep inside of all of us

[Anonymous No.12311879]

>>12311453
I've seen a lot more of then posting here the past few years. It's just constant whining about women and /pol/. I can't imagine being so boring.

[Anonymous No.12311885]

>>12311860
>>12311868
create reddit accounts and press on the "down" arrow
if it goes negative enough they won't see it

[r/books No.12311888]

So, no books by nonwhite/non-straight authors. The only woman is Virginia Woolf.
But the Bible, a compendium of hatred, without which we would already be in Mars, is forth place. Gotcha.

[Anonymous No.12311889]

>>12311860
based

[r/books No.12311891]

I don't know about you guys but I really think for next year we should include more women.

[r/books No.12311892]

>>12311888
*fourth place
You can't edit comments in here. Very 2000-y.

[r/books No.12311897]

niggers tongue my anus

[Anonymous No.12311903]

Just skimmed the whole reddit thread so you don’t have to. Literally half the comments are “why are there no women besides Woolf” and maybe one out of every five is “lol of course 4chan would have Lolita in the top ten.”

[Anonymous No.12311911]

>>12311903
>You will find more wehraboos and incels than you will find actual discussions on books
I mean, he's not wrong.

[Anonymous No.12311915]

>>12311892
you ruined it :(

[Anonymous No.12311923]

>>12311888

[Anonymous No.12311934]

>Well, Ready Player One wasn't on the list. That's the only new book I finished this year. :/
>Edit, just to be clear, Ready Player One does not deserve to be on the list.

What did xe mean by this?

[Anonymous No.12311936]

>>12311923
>>12311915
Reminder: you'll. never. get. a. girlfriend.

[Anonymous No.12311940]

>>12311911
and that's a good thing

[r/books No.12311942]

>>12311936
Router crashed and I forgot to put the name again.

[Anonymous No.12311946]

>>12309876
pasta
>For those of you don't understand "it's reddit", on 4chan, Reddit is perceived as a bunch of naive tools who believe that being a nerd is cool. As a result, they're childishly enthusiastic about their hobbies (which they've only barely scratched the surface of), find random humor completely hilarious, and are notoriously pedantic. This is due to the fact that they believe that nerds are some kind of "cultural elite" simply because their interests aren't completely mainstream.
>BUT, since they don't see themselves as particularly alienated by society, they haven't developed the pleb/patrician paradigm, unlike 4chan. Consequentially, they also have the prudish, politically-correct mentality that goes with the delusion that they can still be normal members of society and accepted by potentially anyone, or that they have moral standards to uphold. This makes them very prone to being shocked or amused by the cheapest transgressions and subversions.


Any redditor browsing here please don't selfishly think you're the exception when we tell you not to browse here. Realize that as a smaller community we are able to have an original culture and when you make the decision to browse here you are deciding that you don't care about that and just want to suck as much out of this place while you slowly kill it. This is not a joke. If you do decide to stay don't consider yourself a good person. It really is the smallest thing that makes all the difference.

[r/books No.12311954]

>>12311946
>original culture
More like incel culture.

[Anonymous No.12311963]

>>12311058
formerly

[Anonymous No.12311967]

>>12311946
you're supposed to spam gore

[Anonymous No.12311969]

>>12311946

you don't realize how insignificant you are to the universe.

[r/books No.12311978]

>>12311969
How would he? 4chan is full of mouthbreathing mountain hicks obsessed with God (see: the Bible being at fourth place). And to their God, the whiter, the manlier, and the straighter the better. Dismiss the rest of the universe, only I matter.

[Anonymous No.12311985]

>>12311969
reddit

[r/books(not a faggot) No.12311987]

>>12311794
This isnt true, the sub mods will just ban you and you'll receive a standardized "please read reddits TOS and the subreddits TOS and then contact the mods"
The mods then tell you to pray to the lords of diversity whilst not unblocking you
so, dont know if better or worse than what you posted.

>>12311903
note the comment with the highest upvotes, not all is lost on reddit...

>>12311946
>an original culture
buddy, do you know how pretentious this sounds

[r/books No.12311994]

>>12311985
*You* are Reddit.

[Anonymous No.12312001]

>>12311942
you're being a faggot

[Anonymous No.12312019]

>redditors thinking this is a top books of all time list and not a top 5 books in the average /lit/ poster's short term memory

[Anonymous No.12312044]

>>12311911
>>12311936
>>12311969
Back you go.

[Anonymous No.12312048]

what's up epic 4channers!

[Buffon Blowjob !!4wMJVJmyZ9+ No.12312069]

You can tell most of reddit are losers.

The type of people who think epic meal time is "awesome" and go to shitty bars and brag about microbrews and thinks being "punny" is the greatest thing ever.

Every post some early 30s failed theater girl or ex band girl makes a post about liking belts some kid responds and humblebrags about how many belts he has and how all HIS sneakers look kewl and should get the portland oregon or san franciscan try so hard to be hipster but not quite hip pussy

I honestly hate the world and people who act up beat and likeable with every fucking thing they say is a lie because they avoid conflict and differing opinions at all cost.

[Anonymous No.12312074]

>>12312069
yeah, you're a tripfag though which is nothing other than a cryptoredditor.

[Anonymous No.12312087]

>>12312048
Are you lost? we 4channelers here boi

[Anonymous No.12312090]

I am surprised Marx made it to the top 100, lit is turning slowly to leftypol. Just as planned.

[Anonymous No.12312094]

>>12312090
we're laschian marxists here boah

[Anonymous No.12312095]

>>12312069
(You) are an asshat.

[Anonymous No.12312103]

>>12310781
You mean to tell me some niggers mud hut in Africa isn't an architectural marvel?

[Anonymous No.12312110]

>>12311978
>4chan
>manly

[Anonymous No.12312120]

>>12312095
reddit

[Anonymous No.12312124]

>>12311978
cringe

[Anonymous No.12312126]

>>12312090
There's always at least a few people that jump at any chance to talk some nonsense about capitalism.

[Anonymous No.12312131]

>>12312110
If wanting to fuck other men in the cornhole is not manly I don't know what it is

[Anonymous No.12312168]

>>12309939
reddit is one of the largest sites on the internet, it's going to have a bit of everyone but the majority will always be the person he described

[Anonymous No.12312176]

>>12311855

Top comment:
My wife breaks it down into different categories of books.

Cotton candy books: easy to read, light, fluffy, won't fill you up.

Grilled cheese books: more substance than cotton candy, but still relatively easy reads, some of the best childhood memories come from these

Lasagna books: layers, but not as dense as other books. Re-reading them rarely gets old as there is many times new things to see when you read.

Chocolate cake books: rich, good, dense, layered. You can't do these all the time, but every once in a while is a fantastic treat.

Reading a healthy, well-rounded book selection is a great way to prevent stagnation and vary up how much mental power you put into a book.

[Anonymous No.12312180]

>>12310576
wtf how do you edit?

edit: nvm figured it out

[Anonymous No.12312197]

>>12312176

[Anonymous No.12312199]

>>12312176
also:
There are sub categories, like a chocolate cupcake, or a grilled ham and cheese.

The idea is to have it make sense to you. :) Have fun!

[Anonymous No.12312203]

>>12312199
and who can forget: the Beef Wellington. A book that's exceptionally dense, layered, and intelligent, but can only be read once or twice in a lifetime unless reading is an absolute passion. Most of these are also considered classic intelligentsia novels or are otherwise so emotionally draining that even a couple chapters of them are more than enough each reading session.

[Anonymous No.12312212]

>>12312176
holy shit. I usually deny that this shithole is somehow intellectually superior to plebbit but this is making me reconsider

[Anonymous No.12312214]

>>12312176
>cotton candy, grilled cheese, and chocolate cake
>healthy and well rounded

Why are Americans like this?

[Anonymous No.12312217]

>>12312176
Reading the Greeks is like eating oatmeal with cooked spinach. Probably good for you, still makes you want to kys.

[Anonymous No.12312219]

>>12311987
>do you know how pretentious this sounds
do you know where you are? this better be ironic reddit-posting bait or you should just kys now nigger scum

[Anonymous No.12312222]

>>12312176
>What would classify as a chocolate cake book? If you’d cite some examples, I’d read them. :)
>>The Buried Giant by Kazuo Ishiguro. Slaughterhouse Five by Kurt Vonnegut. One Hundred Years of Solitude by Gabriel Garcia Marquez.

[Anonymous No.12312227]

>>12312222
lol

[Anonymous No.12312242]

>>12309340
isn't that true of books in general?

[Anonymous No.12312251]

>>12312176
why do you need to read easy books? whats the point of reading 100 easy books a year? its objectively worse than reading 1 difficult book and understanding it

[Anonymous No.12312264]

>>12312217
I think the greeks are pretty comfy desu.

[Anonymous No.12312290]

>>12312251
The only easy books I can understand reading are nostalgia shit like winnie the pooh and or foreign language stuff to help you learn. Redditors of course are just trying to justify reading young adult fiction as a thirty year old man.

Which raises an additional question, how the FUCK do you find young adult fiction entertaining? I can kind of understand why capeshit is popular since it's a spectacle and maybe it's cool to see the comics you read as a child come to life, but who the fuck is unironically interested in this teen shit?

[Anonymous No.12312359]

>>12311842
Yes.

[Anonymous No.12312370]

>>12311860

Fuck off back to plebbit if you don't understand why reading archaic (meant in the sense of Heidegger's etymological analysis, aka 'inceptive') texts is important.

[Anonymous No.12312380]

>>12312090
It’s capital, it’s just an economics book. If Communist Manifesto made it to the top 100 then you’d have reason to be worried.

[Anonymous No.12312386]

>>12312380
lmao

[Anonymous No.12312398]

are 4chan and reddit sentient meta creatures competing for brain space and thus ultimately solar energy?

[Anonymous No.12312408]

>>12311001

[Anonymous No.12312415]

>>12311860
Okay okay.

THIS. Is an actual Reddit fag. I’m usually pretty stubborn but now I believe.

Yes, you see Reddit has a stupid, and frankly dated, atheist subculture movement going on. This is actually an up and coming religious textual analysis site. Literature includes many things such as you have derided, like Hegel or The Holy Bible. A good book can make you take 10 minutes on a single page. Sometimes you have to really think, otherwise you’re just not living.

Anyway, The Holy Bible is a great Book. Out of my top five, I see two of them on the list, The Holy Bible and Plato’s Republic. If you haven’t read either of these, you should do so now. The Republic will take you two weeks, max. The Bible? Well, that usually takes a few months at least. Hopefully after reading you’ll understand a little bit more about how reality works. You see, morals are like geometric shapes, in a sense Plato was right. You discover these and understand how reality works better the way it’s constructed. That’s why, my dear redditor, The Holy Bible is so high on the list. I’m sorry no one is taking the time to explain this to you, but I hope now you’ll understand.

[Anonymous No.12312416]

>>12311458
it's similar to saying "4chan isn't just /b/ or /pol/", reddit has lots of different types of users and i bet there's a fairly large user base of reddit hating reddit users. millions of visitors a day, even a place like reddit will have some diversity. every sub has a circlejerk sub

[Anonymous No.12312420]

>>12312398
Go back to twitter, Nick.

[r/books No.12312430]

Excuse my incompetence but how do I browse by popular?

[Anonymous No.12312435]

>>12312430
Welcome to 4chan. Enjoy your well of despair

[r/books No.12312445]

>>12312435
??

[Anonymous No.12312454]

>>12312398
>solar energy
>not tellurian insurgency made possible by the corpse of a entity know as oil

MISS ME WITH THAT GAY SHIT

[Anonymous No.12312457]

>>12312445
kek.

[Anonymous No.12312459]

>>12311946
Yikes!

[Anonymous No.12312474]

>>12312416
Reddit does have a few decent philosophy / lit subreddits, but they're really small and lean heavily into critical theory and marxism, things /lit/ despise whether out of closeted /pol/ism or contrarianism.

I'd say the ratio of shit to not quiet shit is a lot higher here, /lit/ is pretty active even compared to /pol/ while a popular subreddit will have millions of readers compared to a thousand or so on its antithesis.

[Anonymous No.12312477]

>>12311860

[Anonymous No.12312506]

>>12309335
>Hi I'm anon and I like Dostoevsky
>Oh! So I assume that you like Jordan Peterson as well?

How do we stop the Peterson problem?

[Anonymous No.12312516]

>>12312506
We can't, it's a product of cultural decay and technocapitalism.

[Anonymous No.12312519]

Why do they think reading female or minority authors in itself is a good thing? The best I could think is they believe it will "expand your horizons" but I don't see that as very defensible. I'm sure most of us would agree that exposure to a variety of philosophies is good and will expand a readers horizon as a thinker but these people are equivocating race and gender with philosophy. It's hard to believe there's so many sloppy thinkers.

[r/books No.12312522]

>>12312506
Truly, we live in a society.

[Anonymous No.12312546]

>>12312519
I need to gain oppression experience points (OPEXP) by reading only genderqueer transblack person of color disabled literature, sorry conservatard

[Anonymous No.12312562]

>>12312519
They think that they're not read because people are racist and sexist instead of them not being read because the people historically in the position to write novels were rich white men. It's the normal white lib thing of "fighting oppression" by adopting the aesthetic of equality while not actually doing anything about it.

[Anonymous No.12312565]

>>12312474
You can go back too.

[Anonymous No.12312566]

>>12312519
I think they believe that there are female and minority authors worthy of being on the list that /lit/ won’t vote for because /lit/ hates women and minorities.

[Anonymous No.12312567]

>>12312546
Feminist phenomenology is surprisingly heavily inspired from Heidegger--which r/books will not know or only know as "the nazi philosopher"

[Anonymous No.12312575]

>>12312565
>muh secret club
I hate this place almost as much as I hate reddit

[r/books No.12312608]

>>12312519
It's a pluralist perspective that isn't necessarily something you'd stop at with race and gender. A person's experiences are inexorably embedded in their writing. People of different socioeconomic circumstance, nationalities (yes, even the white ones), political opinions, religious beliefs, occupations, etc. should be encouraged to write since that heterogeny enriches the medium.

[Anonymous No.12312631]

>>12312608
Get out.

[Anonymous No.12312641]

>>12312415
way to eat my bait, I thought using \these\ slashes instead of the correct ones made it too obvious but I underestimated you

[Anonymous No.12312642]

>>12312608
Why is race and gender included at all? It's all find and dandy to say different life experiences will contribute to different philosophies, I don't think anyone disagrees with that. The problem is you sneak race and gender in there as if they in themselves are what contribute to different philosophies. That needs a justification.

[Anonymous No.12312650]

>>12312608
>even the white ones
You mean the ones that wrote by far the most important literature? Why yes, i agree you filthy fucking redditor.

[Anonymous No.12312663]

>>12309335
When was this even made? Wanted to vote on it this year ffs

[Anonymous No.12312705]

>>12312663
It's been running since last week apparently. I was looking forward to voting but I was just blind and didn't see it.

[Anonymous No.12312712]

FUCK REDDITORS

[Anonymous No.12312716]

Is he right /lit/?

[Anonymous No.12312720]

>>12311729
You seem like a very angry little man. Did a chart maker steal your girlf... oh wait, you've never had one. Incel.

[Anonymous No.12312728]

>>12312716
>Anarchessist
>still using the term hipster, unironically
>multiple paragraphs of projection
yikes

[Anonymous No.12312731]

>>12312716
He doesn't know what he's talking about.

[Anonymous No.12312736]

>>12312716
>>12312728
>>12312731
That redditor has more IQ in a single finger than you three combined.

[Anonymous No.12312738]

>>12312736
>t.Anarchessist

[Anonymous No.12312745]

Wtf guys, now that I know that Melville plagiarized Moby Dick, I'm gonna have to drop it now. I didn't know that this marvelous and well written book was a product of plagiarism.

[Anonymous No.12312748]

>>12312736
But does he have a high enough IQ to appreciate Rick and Morty?

[Anonymous No.12312750]

>>12312716
It really do be like that though.

[Anonymous No.12312751]

>>12311349
It wasn't meant to be bad. The guy's obviosly one of us.

[Anonymous No.12312754]

>>12312716
lmao read his history
https://www.reddit.com/user/Anarchessist
It's an endless diarrhea of butthurt. And he's only been posting for 15 hours. This is how he spends his Sundays.

[Anonymous No.12312758]

>>12311460
Harry Potter was literally in the 2014 list so stfu

[Anonymous No.12312766]

>>12312754
>https://www.reddit.com/user/Anarchessist
>my undergraduate student days were 15 years ago
lmao literally your archetypal mid 30s bugman redditor

[Anonymous No.12312771]

>>12312716
Sounds like a very angry little man doing a lot of projecting, also taking an internet poll on 4channel far too serious. Also women suck at writing, and minority is a relative position that this redditor is probably coming at from an American perspective just like most of this board. Whether or not an author is from a racial >minority is not a good reason to care about what they write in the slightest. I do agree /lit/ isn't great on reading some of the chink classics, but desu english translations of chinese texts read like shit.

[Anonymous No.12312779]

>>12312766
Is it Butterfly's reddit handle?

[Anonymous No.12312784]

>>12311080
I think /lot/'s general attitude and elitism is enough to repel redditors

[Anonymous No.12312787]

>>12312771
wanna bet he's some badphilosophy loser?

[Anonymous No.12312791]

>>12312771
>Sounds like a very angry little man
This is cultural appropiation. Don't steal my bait (>>12312720) faggot

[Anonymous No.12312794]

>>12312608
First of all, you have to go back. Second, you end up with a moderncentric list when you account for diversity which fails to address the whole history of literature. This is a totalitarian sort of egalitarianism that grips people who refuse to think outside the box of contemporary politics.

[Anonymous No.12312808]

>>12312716
>/lit/ just picked things that are hard
>a real patrician like me picks things that are ancient or non-Western!

[Anonymous No.12312810]

>>12312716
>https://www.reddit.com/user/Anarchessist

Utter alt.

[r/books No.12312833]

>>12312794
it doesn't matter, the very fact that there's no women is misogynistic by its definition

[Anonymous No.12312860]

>>12312833
That does not refute my argument at all.

[Anonymous No.12312864]

>>12312716
He’s right. But he’s also trying to out-hipster at the same time.

[Anonymous No.12312888]

>>12312751
Then why did >>12310789 say it's like every Reddit copypasta. Seems like the guy on Reddit was just legitimately defining /lit/, so it seems weird to say he's typical Reddit material.

[Anonymous No.12312952]

>>12312716
the /lit/ top 100 isn't an comprehensive list of the most influential literature of all time, it's just a list of good books. le reddit army takes shit so seriously.

[Anonymous No.12312956]

>>12312833

[Anonymous No.12312960]

>>12312748
not possible

[Anonymous No.12313003]

>>12312754
Man on a mission. He single-handedly destroyed 4chan.

[r/books(not a faggot) No.12313008]

>>12312474
The problem with reddit is that every big subreddit is shit, but those are the ones that get traffic. So you pretty much have to sub to 10 small subreddits where you can post a comment and then wait 8 hours until someone responds

>>12312506
the only reason the idiots seriously consider Dostoevsky is bc theyve heard of him in combination with Peterson. They'll glaze over Tolstoy without thinnking twice

>>12312519
If you're dumb enough to believe that society has systematically oppressed women, it makes sense that you would want to compensate. You'll never hear these types say that more female authors need to be read bc of the quality of the work

>>12312952
They have to, if you post on reddit with even a hint of sarcasm you get downvoted to shit

[Anonymous No.12313018]

>Where's all the young adult literature? That belongs on the list. It broadens your horizons to read more young adult, so they're just confirming what a echo chamber they all live in.
>Where's all the young adult literature? That belongs on the list. It broadens your horizons to read more young adult, so they're just confirming what a echo chamber they all live in.
>Where's all the young adult literature? That belongs on the list. It broadens your horizons to read more young adult, so they're just confirming what a echo chamber they all live in.
Just...

[Anonymous No.12313020]

>>12312833
>the very fact that there's no women is misogynistic by its definition

this promotion of equal outcome is getting out of hand. in the entirety of the history of literature, men have had a greater opportunity to be writers because they aren't bogged down by the 10 children they shoot of their vaginas. this isn't to say that women can't be great writers (i.e. virginia woolf), it just means there are less of them.

[Anonymous No.12313022]

>>12312716
He/she/xhir complains about hipsterism while namedropping books here and there when it could have done without it, this is a pseud post

[Anonymous No.12313030]

>>12312575
then leave, commie. you'll be sent to the gulag too, btw.

[Anonymous No.12313032]

>>12312833
So what?

[Anonymous No.12313042]

>>12313030

[Anonymous No.12313049]

>>12312716
this guy has been writing anti-/lit/ walls of texts for 14 hours straight
what's his fucking problem and how do we defeat him?

[Anonymous No.12313052]

>>12309513
based and Gauchpilled

[Anonymous No.12313059]

>>12312736
IQ in his finger? this guy is too much to handle then. retreat.

[r/books(not a faggot) No.12313068]

>>12313049
Someone who spends that much time on reddit, hating on 4chan has already been defeated in every aspect of their sad lives

[Anonymous No.12313070]

>>12313049
Fucker created an account on Reddit exclusively to post it here and farm (You)'s
Are you retarded?

[Anonymous No.12313071]

>>12311001
absolutely based filename

[Anonymous No.12313077]

>>12313059
Wait until you see the IQ of his toes.

[Anonymous No.12313094]

>>12313018
No one else find this funny as fuck?

[/r/books No.12313100]

I don't know how you guys manage to read books so old. I feel like even 20 year old books are starting to show their age. I want to read something relevant and relatable to me, not something someone wrote 400 years ago in a completely different world.

[Anonymous No.12313109]

>>12313100
Sorry, this is the high IQ club.

[Anonymous No.12313112]

he's right

not a single one of you retards has actually read finnegans wake and we all know it

[/r/books No.12313147]

>>12313109
Honestly I would consider someone who has read nothing but books from this decade more well-read than someone who has read nothing but pre-WW2 literature. What's the point of entertaining the writings of long dead people with outdated and even blatantly wrong opinions? It's interesting only historically.

[Anonymous No.12313162]

>>12313147
Because it's enlightening and has more meaning than most books that are written this decade.

[/r/books No.12313185]

>>12313162
What's so particularly enlightening and meaningful about long-dead people's opinions? For example Plato's Republic has practically nothing to do with the reality of 21st century. It's a historical curiosity more than anything else.

[Anonymous No.12313197]

>>12313147
You're really going to have to try a little harder with this bait. It's far too transparent, tone down the naivety and you'll have it spot on. Baiting is an art of subtlety and to some degree, acting. To bait, you need to get in the mind of a person who would genuinely hold that position. It's why any good baiter knows he'll get the most (you)'s from posts he genuinely believes.

[Anonymous No.12313209]

>>12313197
Why don't you answer the guys questions instead of assuming he's baiting you? I've always thought that was such a massive cop out. What if he's not baiting and that's his actual opinion? Just answer it.

[Anonymous No.12313212]

>>12313100
Have you actually tried? You get over the cultural difference very quickly for nineteenth century and onwards fiction (ie, the bulk of the western canon) - we're really not that different at all. I read, say, Dostoevsky and it all seems to ring true for my experience of life in the twenty first century too. It reminds you of how little has changed because the fundamental nature of humans remains the same.
I was never interested in literature until I branched out from contemporary, and literarily all my favourite books are pre WW2.
And 20 years is ridiculously recent too. Can't think of a single especially good book I've read from that time - though I haven't read Bolaño yet, and people who I think have good taste like his writing.

[Anonymous No.12313215]

>>12313209
Because it's a waste of time and it's obviously bait.

[Anonymous No.12313224]

>>12313209
Look at his fucking name. And the premise of his point is dumb enough that if he were actually serious, I can't imagine how I'd even begin to explain the many ways he's completely missing the point of literature or the humanities in general. It goes beyond the normal fallacy of presentism.

[Anonymous No.12313237]

>>12313209
cast not your pearls before swine

[Anonymous No.12313241]

>>12313209
Afraid you won't get me with this one old chap. I assume he's baiting because he's doing exactly what I, and several other experienced shitposters do on a daily basis. I'm in a whatsapp group that was originally meant for us to talk and chill but has ended up becoming one massive never ending bait fest between several people as we deliberately misrepresent arguments and come up with unpopular opinions that'll get others to bite. It's actually pretty fun once you get a handle on it and we occasionally start up some giant shitfests on a few other boards. But, to be frank nobody is actually that retarded and if they are serious it's genuinely not worth acknowledging their shit opinions.

[Anonymous No.12313244]

I think there's some merit to his point about old books, not that they aren't worth reading but I always think about what great works of literature are being written right now that will be looked back on with reverence and we are just completely ignoring them. It's an interesting question when you extrapolate further into the future too, how will people balance the immensity of a historical canon in any media with modern works, how will people's limited time affect what remains known and read/watched.

[Anonymous No.12313250]

>>12310576
lol; here have some more gold!

[Anonymous No.12313255]

>>12313212
Why are you trying to convince an obvious Plebbit retard of the value of old books? He'll just put his fingers in his ears.

[/r/books No.12313286]

>>12313212
I've read a bunch of old books. What you're saying is that you should struggle through the cultural differences, but to achieve what exactly? If we're so similar, why not read more recent books and just skip the part where you have to crawl through the historical context to find something relevant and enlightening. Dostoevsky is a great example in this case because his books like "The Idiot" and "Notes from Underground" pretty much explicitly revolve around trends of his time. Sure, you can try to find something relevant and timeless in all the otherwise irrelevant historical context, but why bother if you're not very interested in the political landscape of 19th century Russia?

[r/books :) No.12313287]

>>12309335
i think you guys shoud put more women in your lists, writers like zadie smith and jk rowling are nice :D

[Anonymous No.12313302]

It's 4chanNEL, get it right niggertors

[Anonymous No.12313312]

>>12313302
>n-word
>>>4c/h/an

[Anonymous No.12313333]

>>12313312
You have to go back.

[Anonymous No.12313368]

>>12313049
You defeat him simply by existing

[Anonymous No.12313429]

>>12312103
There are the Great Zimbabwe Ruins in Africa. I think Mali empire also have archeological signs of having a civilization. While it isn't as impressive as many other structures, Africa still has something notable at least.

[Anonymous No.12313455]

>>12312415
Is this counter-bait or are you actually retarded?

[Anonymous No.12313468]

>>12311649
The fuck are you talking about lmao, /pol/ is the most reddit-infested board after /r9k/. boomers from the_donald have shat on /pol/ to such an extent that even the biggest and most obvious baits gets tons of responses.

/pol/ is a containment board, though a failed one at that.

[Anonymous No.12313518]

>>12312222
>rich, dense, layered
>Slaughterhouse Five
lmao, this is legitimately a retard.

[Anonymous No.12313558]

>>12312833
the woman doesn't exist in the first place

[Anonymous No.12313613]

>>12313286
>history repeats itself
you: what did they mean by this?

[Anonymous No.12313634]

>>12313032
misogyny = bad
mmmkay?

[Anonymous No.12313637]

>>12313241
add me x

[Anonymous No.12313793]

>>12310996

This anon gets it, just look at how little bickering there is on /tv/ it's a funposting board, all the best threads are the ones that get deleted for being wildly off topic.

[Anonymous No.12313806]

>>12313286
I am not >>12313212
>What you're saying is that you should struggle through the cultural differences
It's not too much of a struggle. The only cultural thing that I learned from Crime and Punishment was the name for currency called rubles. While knowing the contextual history behind the book may add a deeper understanding of the book. It's not a necessity to enjoy a majority of old books; such as 1984, Brave New Worlds, and The Sound and the Fury. The only stories that I can think of that required me to understand certain bits are Shakespeare, some Greek, Holy Bible, and some Indian literature. Everything is in the footnotes.
>but to achieve what exactly?
This is like asking what's the point of reading. There are many reasons, mine is for fun.
>why not read more recent books
Most of them are terrible, and to be more specific young adult literature is pretty bad; I've read The Hunger Games (all 3), The first Maze Runner, some of the Twilight, some of Paper Towns, and the first 3 Harry Potter books (while Harry Potter is okay for children, it's escapism literature, which I don't think is really healthy for most people, I recommend checking out https://youtu.be/NqlBtMoNtko); and most of it is really bad. I've also read some books like the Coddling of the American Mind which was more intellectual and formal, and some of Bilton Nick's books. A majority of the books seem like kiddie stuff, diversity (while I've read bits of why do all the black children sit together in the cafeteria; it's very well written and I recommend it, I feel like there is an overwhelming amount of these kinds of books being made that pushes me away because I feel like I already have an understanding of this subject), and overall boring and not well written.
>why bother
Because It's well written and fun. stories like Crime and Punishment, Frankenstein, many Shakespeare plays, and many more classics have captivated me to feel so emotionally responsive to their tone of work that is so beautiful to experience, which I feel most recent books absolutely fail to capture. The most recent thing to make me reach this latitude is Berserk(only manga I've read; while unfair to list with literature, it's the only thing that has made me feel to euphoric that was made it recent times) which has been running since 1989.

[Anonymous No.12313904]

>>12312754
Holy shit he's STILL going at it

[Anonymous No.12313930]

Some redditor has written a list of books written by women, what do you think lads?

I'm not going to list 100 to prove such an obvious point, but I'm happy to give some recommendations! Here's my (of course very subjective and not at all exhaustive) list:

The Joys of Motherhood by Buchi Emecheta

Freshwater by Akwaeke Emezi

A Girl is a Half-Formed Thing by Eimar McBride

The Girl Who Wrote Loneliness by Kyung-Sook Shin

Here's To You, Jesusa! by Elena Poniatowska

My Antonia by Willa Cather

The Bell Jar by Sylvia Plath

Things Fall Apart by Chinua Achebe

Weep Not, Child by Ngugi Wa Thiong'o

A Dream of Ding Village by Yan Lianke

Anything by Jane Austen or a Brontë sister (even Anne)

Middlemarch by George Eliot

Anything Toni Morrison

Guapa by Saleem Haddad

Beyond the Rice Fields by Naivo

The Wonder (Emma Donoghue)

The Awakening (Kate Chopin)

Season of Migration to the North (Tayeb Salih)

Wolf Totem (Jiang Rong)

The Book of Night Women (Marlon James)

I'd be happy to go into what I like about any of these books that catches your eye, by the way (in what detail I can, as it's been a while since I read some of them!).

I don't claim to be an expert by any means; I'm well aware that my own reading habits are too western, and I'm only just beginning to explore what's out there (and finding tons of amazing literature I never would have encountered if I didn't make the effort).

Also, many of the non-western/non-white books I listed are more recent and may or may not hold up over time. I would see that as an argument for a list being somewhat white-male heavy if it focuses on the 19th century and earlier, but there's so much 20th century and more recent stuff on this list, and it's so overwhelmingly white male, that I really don't believe it can be argued that there's no bias.

-----------------

Adding on to the list here:

The Visiting Privilege by Joy Williams

The Autobiography of Red by Anne Carson

Bluets by Maggie Nelson

Manual for Cleaning Women by Lucia Berlin

Transit of Venus by Shirley Hazzard

Goodbye and Good Luck by Grace Paley

On Beauty by Zadie Smith

Chelsea Girls by Eileen Myles

The Vegetarian by Han Kang

Fever Dreams by Samanta Schweblin

Thus Were Their Faces by Silvina Ocampo

Speedboat by Renata Adler


Edit: Some recent personal faves since I've been thinking about it:

Isadora by Amelia Gray

Lost Children Archive by Valeria Luiselli (pub in Feb 2019)

Mr. Fox by Helen Oyeyemi

Severance by Ling Ma

The Idiot by Elif Batuman

How to Behave in a Crowd by Camille Bordas

[Anonymous No.12313950]

>>12313930
These all sound really fucking gay

[Anonymous No.12313956]

>>12309335

>What's a Bolaño, papa? Is it a type of spaghetti?

[Anonymous No.12313983]

>>12313930
Bell Jar is literally YA-level.
>no Flannery O'Connor, Ursula Le Guin and most significantly Virginia Woolf - an actually brilliant writer.
>putting Austen and the Bröntes together
They're on almost opposite poles as far as Romanticism goes. I'd posit that Austen is far superior too, but I'll admit I'm not a fan of Romantic novels in general - even though I love poetry and music within the movement, I don't think it's suited to the form of the novel.
>even Anne
lol
More people on /lit/ should read Middlemarch though. People seem positive about it when it's mentioned, but it should be mentioned more. Don't think it's a gender thing though, as Hardy is barely mentioned either.

[Anonymous No.12313999]

>>12313930
>Toni Morrison
Yeah no

[Anonymous No.12314031]

>>12313999
Toni Morrison is one of the LEAST offensive names in that list. She's the only contemporary one that's Nobel-prize tier.

[Anonymous No.12314227]

>>12311888
>no books by nonwhite authors
>But the Bible [...] is fourth place

What did he mean by this?

[Anonymous No.12314227,1]

ih

[Anonymous No.12314227,2]

hello reddit