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Is he worth getting into, and if yes, with which book do I start?
Are polish translations fine or do I obligatorily go for english versions? Not that it's much of a problem, other than avaibility/price.

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>>12289377
just start with his first book, or not, its up to you

>> No.12289389

>>12289377
>polish translations
give East Germany back please

>> No.12289425

>>12289389
You must be kidding, aren't you?
Give back only somehow civillised part of this place?
Besides, I thought you hate Eastern Germany, or at least BRD krauts do.

>> No.12289447

>>12289377
I’m reading Crying and Gravity because of /lit/ and the fat man, Harold Bloom
I’m rushing to finish
Good Luck, anon

>> No.12289455

start with v or crying of lot 49

>> No.12289484

>>12289425
żartowałem, potraktuj to jako bump.

>> No.12289499

Not OP, but is it a bad idea to start with Mason & Dixon? From just reading the blurbs/the little I know via osmosis, it's the only one that appeals to me.
I'll definitely check out Gravity's Rainbow someday, anyway.

>> No.12289509

>>12289377
Most people recommend starting with The Crying of Lot 49 and then jumping into Gravity’s Rainbow.

>> No.12290037

>>12289499
I started with M&D purely because I chanced upon it for 50p at a market stall. On the strength of it I bought all his other books brand new.

>> No.12290137

>>12289499
It's not a bad starting point. It's linear for a start off.
The period correct english can be a bit tricky at times, and there's still a fair amount of Pynchon wackiness, eg chapter 3 has a talking dog in it, one chapter concludes with two clocks having a discussion about what it's like to be a clock on a ship and those snooty Dutch clocks in Cape Town.

>> No.12290148

>>12289377
>reading translations when you can speak the original language

>> No.12290167

You could sift through the top posts of r/copypasta and have about the same experience as reading Gravity’s Rainbow. This isn’t an exaggeration

>> No.12290173

>>12289377
yes he is a genius. i read V first

>> No.12290203

>>12289377
Start with V. Some people think that V. is harder to read than GR but other than needing to keep a close tabs on which decade you're in it's not that difficult (at least I didn't think so).
The chapter "Mondaugen's Story" in V. is a rough sketch for what was to come in Gravity's Rainbow and is a fucking blast to read. When I think of Pynchon I think of Mondaugen's Story first and foremost.

>> No.12290255

>>12290137
>The period correct english can be a bit tricky at times
What do you mean? I read a lot nineteenth century literature and don't find it tricky at all.
Or are you saying that Pynchon does something different?

>> No.12290301

>>12290148
My man, books here are already expensive. Especially for Uni student that has "leisure" spendings other than books. And it's not like everything gets translated and is easily available, and ordering from these fancy bookstores that import foreign literature is pretty pricey way to go.

>> No.12290363

>>12290255
The English in M&D is 18th century, think Tristram Shandy.

>> No.12290379

>>12290363
Late eighteenth century though, no? Not like there's a huge difference between english in 1786 and say, the 1810s, when Jane Austen was writing.

>> No.12290386

>>12290301
>not just downloading English originals for free
ludzie debil

>> No.12290418

>>12290386
Lubię papierowe wersje. Wystarczająco dużo slęcze przed monitorem.

>> No.12290446

>>12290301
But cigarettes are cheaper for you. Just bring a load of Marlboro over to Dublin, sell your smokes and buy books in whilst you're in town. You can bring legitimately 8x200 cigarettes if you got them in the EU, sell them for €60ish per 200. Get a cheap flight and stay at your cousin's place

>> No.12290491

>>12290301
Bookdepository has free shipping on any book, amazon.de has free shipping for orders above 40 euro.

>> No.12290495

>>12290386
polacy nie gęsi
so proud

>> No.12290606

>>12289425
>Give back only somehow civillised part of this place?
Western Poland is the worst, most degenerate part of this shithole, anoniusz.
It's ridden with souless post-communist nihilist puppets.
Prove me wrong.
Protip: You can't.

>> No.12290703

>>12290379
The orthography is much different from Austen. Plus, Pynchon's typically verbose and dense writing style. I didn't find it oppressive at all, and enjoyed it immensely, but a lot of people seem to have difficulty with it. Honestly I think they're just lazy readers.

>> No.12290825

>>12290703
Yeah, I could see it being difficult because Pynchon being Pynchon, but honestly the most difficult texts I've read have all been in the twentieth century. There may be a small barrier to overcome in reading something from an older time, but I find you can get over that quite quickly.

>> No.12291183

I read GR and M&D in Greek. Although the translator did a good job, after reading M&D's opening paragraphs in English, I know I'm missing out on Pynchon's high-level prose.

>> No.12291209

>>12290301
Isnt Poland first world?

>> No.12291231

u prob wont get it it took me many years of reading and sucking guys to understand pynch

>> No.12291265

>>12291209
it's a "second" (third) world shithole

>> No.12291266

>>12291209
Ask your plumber next time you need his services.

>> No.12291939

>>12290418
dupnij se Kindla ziomeczku

>> No.12291971

>>12291231
>sucking guys
woman or gay. if the LATTER (not former), hey, cutie~ wanna read bataille or deleuze together while i snuggle on ur lap ;) post pics

>> No.12292412

>>12291231
plz be
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>> No.12292431

I consider starting with Inherent Vice because I liked the movie a lot. Am I ok?

>> No.12292642

>>12291971
im a straight male