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[Anonymous No.12248550]

I'm leftist but I gotta hand it to the little guy, there's just no better person to learn rhetorics from. He's a straight up savage when it comes to the art of debate.

[Anonymous No.12248586]

>>12248550
I'm a conservative but I have to disagree.

[Anonymous No.12248589]

Do we really need a thread for leftist 'humour'?

[Anonymous No.12248594]

>>12248550
Actually, you're wrong.

[Anonymous No.12248603]

>>12248550
not really, hes just knowledgeable about subject and uses facts and reason to utterly ruin postmodernist vaginas. and they cant call him a nazi cuz hes a literal jew.

[Anonymous No.12248604]

How do I learn to OBLITERATE my opponents with FACTS and LOGIC?

[Anonymous No.12248608]

>>12248586
>>12248594
Name one guy that does it better.

[Anonymous No.12248613]

>>12248608
Christopher Hitchens

[Anonymous No.12248622]

https://youtu.be/-PqGR9YiZtI

[Anonymous No.12248623]

>Facts don't care about your feelings, heh nothing personnel leftists
>Ben, whats wrong with abortions then? It's just a fetus...
>THINK ABOUT DA BABBYS ABORSHUN IS MURDER LITERALLY MURDER FUCKING REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[Anonymous No.12248635]

>my wife is a doctor

[Anonymous No.12248641]

>>12248613
bait

[Anonymous No.12248643]

>grabs you by the pronoun

[Anonymous No.12248648]

>>12248608
Perhaps it's a sign of his rhetorical skill that there are still people who think fondly of him, even though time has proven him wrong on every political argument he made (Yugoslavia, the Iraq War, Michelle Obama secretly being a black separatist and a Farrakhanist, when all she ever ended up doing was the school lunch thing, etc.) I never did like him though, too smug.

[Anonymous No.12248654]

>>12248648
Rhetoric has nothing to do with being right or wrong.

[Anonymous No.12248655]

>>12248648
>>12248613
Meant to reply to him

[Anonymous No.12248659]

I suggest people watch Charisma on Command's Youtube video on how Ben Shapiro is so good at debates and learn from it. I've learned to somewhat model my tactics in debate after his.

[Anonymous No.12248665]

>>12248659
>Charisma on Command's

[Anonymous No.12248670]

>>12248623
I’m pro-choice but it is kind of like ending a life

It’s just that life is unimportant. Stop listening to feminists you fucking fag.

[Anonymous No.12248672]

>>12248550
I have this fanasy of Zizek and Dugin ripping apart Shapiro from the Left and the Right with mumbling eastern Euro accents and nervous ticks while Shapiro just stands there crying out the same old tired muh individualism, muh civic nationalism, muh capitalism bullshit. Would feel good.

[Anonymous No.12248677]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXfnAMMpW_o
With jews, you lose

[Anonymous No.12248681]

>>12248608
There are many, but just to name one I don't even agree with on most issues: Sam Harris. Listen to their discussion. Harris comes out on top.

[Anonymous No.12248686]

>>12248659
I can no longer parse the levels of irony and redditposting.

[Anonymous No.12248687]

>>12248665
Yeah it's a shit tier channel but he does describe Ben Shapiro.

[Anonymous No.12248696]

>>12248681
See:
>>12248686

[Anonymous No.12248703]

>>12248670
My point is, lil' Benny's trademark slogan is the height of hypocrisy considering that half the time he veers off into purest appeals to emotion. I'm sure there are practical/logical reasons for pro-life stance, but Benny prefers screaming about muh murders instead

[Anonymous No.12248717]

>>12248696
I'd be more inclined to think a Shapiro post was bait than a Harris post. Neither can be called an expert on anything, but Harris has far greater rhetorical skills. Shapiro just happens to debate idiots more often.

[Anonymous No.12248729]

If you're pro-choice then you're pro-kill
Innocent bloodshed, murder at will

[Anonymous No.12248741]

>>12248622
BEN SHAPIRO ANALLY RAPES AND SKULLFUCKS LIBERAL SNOWFLAKES TO DEATH WITH BARBED DILDO

[Anonymous No.12248743]

>>12248703
You’re a brainlet if you don’t believe pathos is the height of sophistry. Even the Greeks knew this.

The entire reason Ben is a public figure is because he’s Jewish and a glitch in the matrix of left wing emotional arguments. It’s all in bad faith. The thing is is that he’s also an actual intellectual unlike someone like Milo who’s rich because of said sophistry. Ben isn’t really even that good at what he does he just commands to be listened to as he gapes the boipuccis of Liberals and fills them to the brim with his fact cum simply by being Jewish, and it’s hilarious.

[Anonymous No.12248747]

>>12248550
I disagree entirely.
Ben Shapiro is only able to win the admiration of people who view the debate team as being higher than the stage of real life.
He comes off as rude, condescending and arrogant to the average person. In fact, your average guy probably meets Shapiro with pure and undiluted hatred. Communication is mostly non-verbal, and his sucks. His body language is terrible, his facial expressions are devoid of almost anything but disdain, his voice is nasally and weak. The end result of all this is an inability to persuade.
The super-intelligent look at him as neurotic, a piece of work. He calls out others on gaps in logic but fails to hold his own statements to the same standard. He plays the role of being objective and logical but he is like a child throwing temper tantrums sometimes, "POOR PEOPLE ARE POOR BECAUSE THEY ARE STUPID, HOW DARE THEY COMPLAIN". He grossly overgeneralizes statistics and extrapolates them as the iron laws.
The only people I see expressing any sort of fondness or admiration for Shapiro are complete brainlets, looking for someone smarter than them. Congratulations, you proved yourself a brainlet.

[Anonymous No.12248748]

>>12248743
Dude I'm not using this term lightly but judeo-obsessed comes to mind.

[Anonymous No.12248773]

>>12248748
Christmas JEW

[Anonymous No.12248775]

>>12248747
This, thanks for bothering to write what I felt but didn't care to explain to OP.

>>12248550
>learn rhetorics
Good bait, "leftist." wink wink.

Shapiro is exactly the kind of pedantic con that 2018 would think is intelligent. He makes a nice living off saying what people want to hear. He is not seeking the good.

[Anonymous No.12248786]

>>12248670
Fetuses are as alive as plants. They are not conscious and have yet to develop their brains. They are not alive in the same way we are and that’s factual. They are more akin to plants. If you zero issue eating meat or cutting diwn a tree, there’s no factually based reason to find abortion objectionable.

[Anonymous No.12248791]

>>12248786
>Fetuses are as alive as plants. They are not conscious and have yet to develop their brains. They are not alive in the same way we are and that’s factual. They are more akin to plants. If you zero issue eating meat or cutting diwn a tree, there’s no factually based reason to find abortion objectionable.

[Anonymous No.12248797]

>>12248703
What exactly do you think abortion is if not the act of killing a human being? The unborn is a human organism in the state of development from the moment of conception so that makes it a human being regardless of whether or not you think that unborn human has rights or value. When you get an abortion you're killing the human being.

The only rational reason I can think of for a pro-choice person to deny this would be that they merely think it's bad optics or bad rhetoric. They don't want to say they support killing a human being because that's not likely to appeal to most people. They're the ones appealing to emotion through this manipulation of language that covers up reality.

[Anonymous No.12248802]

>>12248775
Shapiro is credentialism and nepotism made flesh.

[Anonymous No.12248806]

>>12248791
Here you have it folks. Faced with facts, the brainlet retreats to funny internet pictures.

These are the people who believe benny uses “facts” and “logic”.

[Anonymous No.12248808]

>>12248743
You know he's not actually the first right wing Jew in the world right?

[Anonymous No.12248814]

>>12248806
What could I say? Your ignorance left me dumbfounded.

[Anonymous No.12248821]

>>12248797
>When you get an abortion you're killing the human being.
And this is a problem? There are many instances where society agrees that the killing of human beings is acceptable (war, capital punishment, when ppl are in vegetative states). If the baby presents a problem to the parents, considering it’s unconscious state, there’s no reason to have moral apprehension in ending it. It wont know or care. There’s no real victim except a potentiality which is a solely metaphysical idea, pragmatically it doesn’t exist.

[Anonymous No.12248832]

>>12248797
Shaperistein would applaud you for such adrent moral absolutism (just don't do that when talking about Israel, goy).
Sure, lets pretend that fertilized egg or an embryo the size of a peanut is the same as fully grown human, let's just act stupid and dilute the term 'human' to involve anything with human DNA, as if the term isn't loaded with far more intricacies involving cultural, intellectual, spiritual, and other types of identification, let's just fucking do this and equate Zygote McGee to your mom and describe both in the same seriousness using big boy words like 'killing'.
Anything to own a libtard.

[Anonymous No.12248836]

>>12248808
He might as well be in the Internet age of 24/7 news cycles. If fucking Jimmy Kimmel can get famous from The Man Show and become the poster boy for the left what makes you think anyone has ever heard of right wing Jews outside of niche political nerd circles?

Ofcourse he isn’t the only one, I know this because I’m not left wing. Explain that to them, I mean the dude is balls rich simply based on these assumptions. Tell it to his bank account.

[Anonymous No.12248839]

>>12248806
You didn't state facts, you made a bunch of value claims without any argument to support them. We don't value things because they're alive but because of their particular nature as rational animals so your analogy to plants is off the mark. If plants were rational animals we would recognize their right to life. It's the same deal with consciousness. When humans are temporarily unconscious they don't become temporarily inhuman, they still have their human nature regardless of their ability to think or feel.

[Anonymous No.12248848]

>>12248814
Its fine to admit you don’t have an argument. Some people are just vrailets. The first step is to admit.

[Anonymous No.12248864]

>>12248821
Sure, in some cases the killing of a human being can be permissible, like in the case war or capital punishment when people through their actions forfeit their right to life. This is not an argument for killing innocent people who have not in any way forfeited their right to life which is what happens during an abortion.

[Anonymous No.12248868]

>>12248848
No, you're just not worth talking to. Shapiro is a sophist, and so are you. Neither you nor he are interested in real debate, you just want to "win" no matter how stupid it makes you sound.

[Anonymous No.12248870]

>>12248839
>When humans are temporarily unconscious they don't become temporarily inhuman, they still have their human nature regardless of their ability to think or feel.
Yes they do. When someone is brain dead, they are effectively irrational vegtables incapable of conscious experience. A fetus has the potential for conscious experience but currently lacks it. Meaning that objectively, in this moment in time, a fetus is not a conscious human being and to “kill” it is not the same as killing a conscious human. Your argument is based on metaphysical potentiality, not on current facts.

[Anonymous No.12248871]

>>12248550
>tfw already posted all my Shapiro memes in the Peterson & Zizek thread.

Life is suffering.

[Anonymous No.12248879]

I. THE COLD KANT (on infanticide/abortion)
>In the first part (the "Doctrine of Right," the Rechtslehre) of his late, post-critical Metaphysics of Morals (1797), which part is devoted to the Law, Immanuel Kant tells us about a crime that is "deserving of death" with regard to which it still remains doubtful whether legislation is also authorized to impose the death penalty." This crime is "a mother's murder of her child."1 But Kant is not concerned with a Susan Smith, who drowned in an automobile submerged in a lake her properly, legally, conceived children. That it is "doubtful" that the law should be brought to bear against infanticide is reserved by Kant for a special case:

>"Legislation cannot remove the disgrace of an illegitimate birth. ... A child that comes into the world apart from marriage is born outside the law ... and therefore outside the protection of the law. It has, as it were, stolen into the commonwealth (like contraband merchandise), so that the commonwealth can ignore its existence (since it was not right that it should have come to exist this way), and can therefore also ignore its annihilation."

[Anonymous No.12248881]

>>12248870
Temporary unconsciousness is not brain death. I have a very low tolerance for nonsense and I've lost patience with you. This is stupid and you're not even attempting to respond to what I say.

[Anonymous No.12248889]

>>12248832
The difference between a 2 year old infant and a 70 year old man is greater than the difference between an embryo and newborn infant. Why shouldn't we should be allowed to kill 2 year olds? I don't think the stage of development that a human is in should matter.

[Anonymous No.12248898]

>ctrl-F "pilpul"
>no results

[Anonymous No.12248902]

>>12248550
I like him because of what an unapologetic turbokike he is. I would chuckle and pat him on the shoulder before shoving him into the oven.

[Anonymous No.12248903]

Why are women so depressed after abortions? I mean they just had a massive weight taken off their shoulders no?

[Anonymous No.12248921]

>>12248881
>Temporary unconsciousness is not brain death
Someone who is temporarily unconscious is just someone asleep, or concuss. A fetus is neither. It lacks the very biological mechanisms that make conscious experience possible. This is a fact and you can’t deny it by saying “hurr but it can be”. Currently its not.
And i directky respobded to your post. A brain dead person is a fornally conscious human made unconscious and you know full well they lose their humanity.

[Anonymous No.12248922]

>>12248879
>A child that comes into the world apart from marriage is born outside the law ... and therefore outside the protection of the law

ALL IN FAVOR OF CHANGING THE SPELLING OF 'KANT' TO 'KUNT' SAY AYE

AYE

[Anonymous No.12248929]

>i'm a leftist
>i'm a conservative
time to grow up, being politicized is for children

[Anonymous No.12248931]

>>12248550
He has the voice of a faggot

[Anonymous No.12248933]

>>12248903
They are depressed after giving birth as well. Men are also miserable in childless relationships and in couplings that lead to children. Even the aftermath of an orgasm is depressing.

The only path to happiness is celibacy and the monastic life. For both sexes.

[Anonymous No.12248937]

>>12248903
Pro-life people say that, but they can't explain why my mother didn't abort me and still got depressed at how much of a failure I turned out to be. Ha, take that!

[Anonymous No.12248940]

>>12248832
There's no need to tack -stein at the end of Shapiro because the name Shapiro is already jewish af by itself.

[Anonymous No.12248943]

>>12248922
t. Single motherhood victim

[Anonymous No.12248947]

>>12248903
To conceive and not give birth successfully is a failure of biology, the mind and body cant interpret it as anything else

[Anonymous No.12248948]

>>12248550
>dude scattershot factoids
Wow thanks guy.

[Anonymous No.12248949]

>>12248922
>I'm OK with the sin that caused the sin that caused the sin but THAT sin at the end of all of it, that's where I draw the line!!!!!!

[Anonymous No.12248951]

>>12248729
good, death is cool

[Anonymous No.12248952]

>>12248948
>factoids
Thanks for the fact checking terminology, red dit.

[Anonymous No.12248954]

>>12248747
>tfw to intelligent
>tfw empathy pilled
>tfw extreme dissonance when I'm required to take position in divisive issues
>I can only talk freely among like minded folk
>vocabulary suffers severely & come off as autistic brainlet as a result
How to solve this lads? I want to be filled with insecure neurotic aggressiveness and mobilize my intellectual powers but a part of myself refuses to cooperate

[Anonymous No.12248959]

>>12248947
Successfully giving birth can lead to depression as well, as >>12248933 pointed out.

[Anonymous No.12248960]

>>12248922
>I don't object to the house being on fire whenever it's just the living room, or try to put it out. But whenever the 95% of the house is thoroughly burned, that's when it's time to douse the flames!!!!

[Anonymous No.12248961]

>>12248943
I'm just pointing out Kunt's fallacy. By holding an innocent child accountable to laws of the state, which are legislated according to a system of democracy, we can also make an common accord and call him by his more true and proper name: Kunt.

[Anonymous No.12248967]

>>12248550
>debate
>rhetoric
Do you actually want to destroy civilization?

[Anonymous No.12248968]

>>12248960
>>12248949
read

>>12248961

[Anonymous No.12248969]

>>12248933
Bet she's escaping from her old life as a small town dive bar skank.

[Anonymous No.12248970]

>>12248961
Marriage is the law of God my friend.

[Anonymous No.12248975]

>>12248970
Then let God carry out the sentence. Not man.

[Anonymous No.12248976]

Ben is the ultimate Mic Dropper

[Anonymous No.12248980]

>>12248975
Abortion is the consequence of sin that proceeded it.

[Anonymous No.12248982]

>>12248933
then become a shaker there are only two left track them down and convert

[Anonymous No.12248988]

>>12248969
You're bad at reading faces and body language. That girl is a virgin who has never had a boyfriend.

[Anonymous No.12248992]

>inb4 stop shilling
cmon anon, only has 28 pages. you can do it. I believe in you

[Anonymous No.12248996]

>one of the most famous conservatives right now is a jew
Every time. Also Ben is a great debater but terrible with facts or engaging meaningfully with anyone who isn't a brainlet. Like if you're famous for owning dumb college kids you're probably not smart.

[Anonymous No.12248995]

>>12248982
Shakers are extremely based desu but I can live my practise as a hermit as well.

[Anonymous No.12248997]

>>12248933
This is true, abortions mostly exist because people are animals who love muh cummies to much

[Anonymous No.12248999]

>>12248988
Where in her body do you see that manifested?

[Anonymous No.12249005]

>>12248747
Not an argument.

[Anonymous No.12249006]

>>12248992
>99% of people he debates are liberals
>call them leftists anyway
Wow what a smart guy

[Anonymous No.12249009]

>>12248954
read thesarus improve vocabulary, practice writing stuff, read a lot.

[Anonymous No.12249010]

>>12248933
chaste and breadpilled

[Anonymous No.12249014]

>>12249005
t. benyamine shapiro

[Anonymous No.12249015]

>>12248550
>exclusively debate morons most of whom are seething ideological college students who can barely stop shaking long enough to articulate the same platitude over and over
>look smart as a result
wow

[Anonymous No.12249018]

>>12248729
Abortion isn’t murder. To say that you have to have very absolutist definition of what life is. You’d have to consider livestock murder as well. Frankly, even babies are barely alive. Humans dont even develop executive functions until about 7-12 months. Up to that point, babies are just machines accumulating data from stimulus that slowly organizes itself through statistical and categorical models of apprehension. Without social contact, most humans would be animalistic and have no more complex thoughts than monkeys. I’d have no issue putting a baby down with good reason. Human consciouness is an ill-defined notion that no one (sicentist nor philosophers) have been capable of establishing. The rejection of abortion is emotivist and not based on logic. Strict logic doesnt even allows us to determine continuous identity.

[Anonymous No.12249019]

>>12248881
I'm not him, and I'm not trying to insult you, but you just don't get it. He's 100% right and you don't even have a counter argument.

[Anonymous No.12249024]

>>12248608
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2HDCmhrk4s
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYlMEVTa-PI
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYlMEVTa-PI
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXY6E7wCZZs
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqNJN1g9AjU
Plus he doesn't rely on debating college kids and celebrities, he argues against other rhetoricians.

[Anonymous No.12249031]

>>12248729
look the soul doesn't enter the body till after the first quickening anything that happens before then is not murder. if an abortion happens after that its because the kid is a threat to the mothers life or is already still born.

[Anonymous No.12249047]

>>12248999
It's mostly in her face, but the utilitarian body language only confirms that. She has none of the succubus artifice where her pose's primary target is to seduce and achieving a practical goal in navigating the physical world is only secondary. Her body is positioned in such a way to best support the weight of the books, instead of risking ruin of the back just in order to force curvature in a way that does not actually support the weight in an efficient manner.

[Anonymous No.12249081]

>>12248623
You've misunderstood his quip. 'Facts don't care about your feelings' means you shouldn't use feelings in a *descriptive* argument (eg, illegal immigration costs the US alot of money, or whatever). The abortion argument Shapiro makes is *prescriptive*, so moral arguments are valid in that case.

[Anonymous No.12249099]

>>12249018
Yes it is. We just accept it now, maybe in the future we won't. Or still do.
The point is it's pointless to try to apply logic (?) to arbitrary morality. We murder livestock for our livelihood. It's O.K.

[Anonymous No.12249109]

>>12249081
Yet whether or not a fetus is alive and whether abortion constitutes as murder are not clear facts and Shapiro willingly ignores the established scientific facts for the sake of his argument.

[Anonymous No.12249113]

>>12248603
>they cant call him a nazi cuz hes a literal jew.
Which is because literally is a nazi.

[Anonymous No.12249119]

He"s also a millennial, which I find kinda ironic.

[Anonymous No.12249136]

>>12248933
tfw no innocent virginal catholic nunfu to discuss intricate theological issues with and achieve spiritual orgasm with

[Anonymous No.12249142]

>>12249099
No, we don’t “just accept it” now, you nominalist. Our notions of what constiutes as alive has changed due to our scientific knowledge and we can, applying logic, easy stipulated that a fetus is not “alive” in the same manner that fully develop humans are. And this influences our morality. Conservative thinkers, as the name implies, are trying to conserve traditional notions of life (not based on contemporary science) and this is where their problem with abortion comes from.

[Anonymous No.12249149]

Shapiro is paid by Young America's Foundation to speak at colleges, YAF is funded by the Kochs

He attended this TPUSA event with Dave Rubin, Kellyanne Conway, and Jordan Peterson

TPUSA has received funding from at least 4 different Koch funded groups

Dave Rubin also receives Koch sponsorship

Kellyanne Conway is on the board of Independent Womens Forum, which has received funding from the Kochs

And Jordan Peterson is known to recommend Koch outlets like Cato Institute and the Institute for Humane Studies.
He also first came to wider attention at Rebel Media - Rebel Media has received funding from the Middle East Forum, which has received funding from the Donors Capital Trust, which was established by and funded by the Kochs.
Furthermore, founder Ezra Levant previously worked at the Fraser Institute the Kochs primary Canadian front group and before that he did his internship at the Charles G. Koch Foundation.

[Anonymous No.12249151]

>>12249119
What's so ironic about it?

[Anonymous No.12249159]

>Hey Ben I hear you're a real Free Speech champion. So what do you think of states adopting laws to prevent people from boycotting Israel, and the effort to make it a federal criminal offense?

[Anonymous No.12249167]

>>12249149
Peterson needs some roids.

[Anonymous No.12249179]

>>12249149
>a bunch of men lecturing a 'young women's leadership summit'

[Anonymous No.12249184]

>>12249159
>26 states have done this already
>13 more are considering it
>they want to make it a federal crime punishable by up to a million dollars or 20 years in jail for boycotting Israel

[Anonymous No.12249199]

>>12249142
Why are they not alive though, all it comes down to is if it can function cognitively so any stage of a pregnamcy should be a ok to terminate.

[Anonymous No.12249204]

>>12249179
Um yea sweaty, who else should teach women how to follow their male leaders?

[Anonymous No.12249249]

>>12249199
Cognitive functions don’t depend on a conscious agent for them to occur. In the third trimester, fetuses already begin having more solid neural firing patterns. A baby can discriminate their mother’s language from other ones upon birth because of this and already have a sense of prosody even before coming out of he womb. However, this is all automatic. A definition of consciousness depends on a conscious agent capable of executive control or self-awareness, both of which fetuses lack. People are just organic machines. Our human sense of self is a development that occurs as a social function that derives from theory of mind and perhaps mirror neurons. Im unsure whether there are physical repercussions to late trimester abortions, but i think the reason late abortions are look at as immoral is because of what i said above, third trimester fetuses are capable of more develop neural firings which means that they already started to accumulate and organize data (such as linguistic data from mother’s speech).

[Anonymous No.12249257]

>>12249024
>unironically posting chomsky

[Anonymous No.12249265]

>>12249257
Shapiro actually copied some of Chomsky's rhetorical techniques. This isn't a good thing.

[Anonymous No.12249284]

>>12248672

Nice copy-paste from the Zizek Peterson debate thread there.

[Anonymous No.12249292]

>>12248550
>straight up savage
GET THE FUCK OFF THIS WEBSITE YOU UNDERAGE FUCK
>>>>4chan

[Anonymous No.12249307]

>>12249249
Huh interesting, but theyre still not concious in the sense that a full human is as you stated initially so I still dont see the problem in terminating. But I get the logic

[Anonymous No.12249479]

his success, if nothing else, is good for exposing people who can't distinguish between rhetoric and logic.

[Anonymous No.12249501]

>>12249179
who knows more about women than male e-celebs?

[Anonymous No.12249506]

>>12249179
>You wouldn't download a knowledge.

[Anonymous No.12249525]

>>12248550
lmao his books are shit tier pandering to right wingers telling them that what they think about colleges etc are true

[Anonymous No.12249527]

>>12249525
nice job typing out a proper sentence, you imbecile.

[Anonymous No.12249533]

>>12249527
I've transcended the english langauge. also not an argument

[Anonymous No.12249534]

>>12248550
>muh mic drops
>muh fast talking
only mentally-impaired teenagers would be impressed by this squat, toad-voiced charlatan. A fake, an ignorant fool, a neocon wannabe. Even wears his little kippah to score a sympathy/social justice card.

[Anonymous No.12249538]

>>12248729
people who are pro-life are 9 times out of 10 pro-death penalty

[Anonymous No.12249547]

>>12249538
isn't that a good thing?

[Anonymous No.12249553]

>>12249538
Even funnier when you know that they're usually christfags desu

[Anonymous No.12249571]

>>12249547
it is for people who want to point out their hypocrisy.

[Anonymous No.12249607]

>>12249538
>>12249571
Capital punishment means that there are conscious actions of evil that are so horrible that it is better for you to be removed for doing them.
Abortion means that a harlot sacrifices their child as a scapegoat for such a crime.

[Anonymous No.12249640]

>>12249607
>Capital punishment means that there are conscious actions of evil that are so horrible that it is better for you to be removed for doing them.
if you're without sin, you're free to cast the first stone

[Anonymous No.12249662]

>>12249607
Christ forgives