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>that powerful and unmistakable feel when you realize he was right

>> No.12207799

just because someone intelligent said it, doesn't mean it's okay to fap to thoughts of your mother.

>> No.12207811

>>12207799
Yes it does.

>> No.12207900

>>12207796
He is a pseud.

SAGE

>> No.12207903

>>12207900
The ultimate pseud opinion.

>> No.12207928

>>12207796
>rejected by any major neuroscientist
>rejected by any major psychiatrist
>rejected by any major scientific student of the brain
>only taken seriously by literature and social studies majors (aka the ones who don’t actually research on the topic)
why do you think he was right, anon?
Can you prove it?

>> No.12207932

>>12207928
Take the redpill and read Freud. Freud has been under attack by academia for a long time, but he has been frequently mentioned in psychology litterature throughout the 20th century.

>> No.12207934

>>12207928
>scientific student of the brain
calling myself this among females and lesser men who don't know enough to challenge me

>> No.12207938
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>>12207928
>putting your faith in clueless idiots like harris
>requesting proof as though verificationism is the universal way of the world
pretty gross desu

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>>12207796
>Blocks your path

>> No.12207943

Freud is to my mind, a greater challenge to religion than the sciences. He is a frigntful, vast caster of shaddows. The foolish ignore him. The clever adore him. The genius defeat him.

>> No.12207944

>>12207943
t. professional quote maker

>> No.12207950

>>12207928
science is in essence christian, as nietzsche said. you need to abandon the rationalistic tool and acclimate freud's theory to get out slave morality

>> No.12207963

>>12207932
Yeah, ecause his cult is insistent in not dying. Mainly because his beliefs validate their own beliefs about human nature, be it unfounded as they are.

>>12207950
>>12207938
>meme man said everyone wants to fuck mama, just like i do
>he must be right
>proof? fuck off with your unnatural rationalistic axioms of science, you fascist
Take the CBT pill, anons

>> No.12208025

>>12207963
you clearly have no clue what you're talking about and it's clear you got the meme version of Freud anyway
"human nature" is the biggest dog whistle for a /pol/ pseud on this board

>> No.12208171

>>12207928
>rejected by any major psychiatrist
>rejected by any major neuroscientist
>only taken seriously by literature and social studies majors (aka the ones who don’t actually research on the topic)
Not true. I study psychology and most of my profs, even the ones I have in neuropsychology, speak very fondly of Freud.

>> No.12208195

>>12207938
>verificationism
>invents buzzword so he doesn't need to provide evidence for his beliefs
kek.

>> No.12208227

>>12208171
I had the opposite experience.

>> No.12208240

>>12208171
I had the opposite experience, too.

>> No.12208246

>>12208227
Did you study it in the US?

>> No.12208256

>>12208240
>>12208227
As I said, with one exception none of my profs would consider themselves "Freudian", but they praise many of his historical achievements and consider him still relevant for clinical psychology. Of course, they also point out the flaws of his theory, of which there are plenty, but to say he's rejected in academic psychology is as true as saying Jean Piaget is rejected in academic psychology.

>> No.12208262

>>12208171
>>12208227
>>12208246
>>12208256
Nobody today is a serious psychoanalyst, the field has been renamed to "psychodynamics". It shares some ideas, but it is trying to be more scientific than Freud's work.

>> No.12208263

>>12208256
>historical achievements and consider him still relevant for clinical psychology
You would have to be retarded not to acknowledge him as historically relevant.
>but to say he's rejected in academic psychology is as true as saying Jean Piaget is rejected in academic psychology.
But Piaget /is/ rejected, anon. Historical importance =/= persistent affirmation.

>> No.12208290

>>12208263
Fair enough, but by that criteria, every psychologist dead for more than 20 years is rejected.

>> No.12208328

>>12208290
As it should be.

>> No.12209467

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>> No.12209481

>>12207796
Nah, never felt it. he's still wrong. Just as that Darwin faggot.

>> No.12209706

>>12207963
CBT is meme bullshit where you do a bunch of worksheets, get taught some breathing exercises, and are essentially told to stop having bad thoughts as if that's useful. That it is considered "evidence-based" is a testament to the flexibility of those words more than anything else, and the focus on short-term, "quantifiable" progress leads to shallow results that are easily reversed. It treats symptoms and not causes.

>> No.12209739
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>>12207963
Cock ball torture pill?

>> No.12209763

>>12207963
>>12209706
CBT is actually a meme. Trying to change your thoughts is useless and counter-productive.
The key to mental health is psychological flexibility, being able to tolerate negative emotions and having flexible demands on yourself, others and the world.
I think CBT is only effective because it might make a person that usually isn't self-reflective to actually become aware of his thoughts and the resulting self-awareness helps them out.
For most people with actual emotional disorders, trying to control their emotions will only backfire and make them more distressed.
Third-wave cognitive-behavioral therapies like ACT figures this out and teach you how to develop psychological flexibility.

t. used to have really bad anxiety and emotional problems

>> No.12209781

>>12208025
Denying human nature is at the level of believing in creationism, everything we do is based on instincts, we just justify things later with reason.

>> No.12210112

>>12207928
>psychiatrism

kek

https://www.theguardian.com/science/brain-flapping/2014/sep/25/lonely-potato-syndrome-mental-disorder-psychological-condition

>> No.12210118

it's not a coincidence the freud rhymes with pseud. You stink, old man. Stop posting.

>> No.12210175

>>12207963
>CBT pill

Cock & Balls Torture pill?

>> No.12210668

>>12207903
This. People who dismiss Freud don't understand him

>> No.12210668,1 [INTERNAL] 

He is right or wrong, but his quotes will make him rack his brains for several hours at least

>> No.12210668,2 [INTERNAL] 

His quotes will make him rack his brains for several hours at least

>> No.12210668,3 [INTERNAL] 

Yes...