[ 3 / biz / cgl / ck / diy / fa / ic / jp / lit / sci / vr / vt ] [ index / top / reports ] [ become a patron ] [ status ]
2023-11: Warosu is now out of extended maintenance.

/lit/ - Literature

View post   
File: 22 KB, 300x456, kafka_on_the_shore.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
1219559 No.1219559 [Reply] [Original]

Do I have to have read some Kafka in order to appreciate Kafka on the Shore?

>> No.1219566

nope

>> No.1219700

Mukakami fucking loves Kafka doesn't he?

>> No.1219773

>>1219700
He loves to flaunt his knowledge of Western literature and music in his books, judging by the two novels of his I've read. It gets ridiculous though, in Kafka on the Shore he spent an entire paragraph talking about how awesome Prince is and loves to specify exactly what track the protagonist is listening to.

>> No.1219780

>>1219773
does this take away from the story at all?

>> No.1219785

>>1219773
Ok, you just convince me not to read him. I fucking hate useless references to pop culture.

>> No.1219788

>>1219785
I mean, it's not 'useless', there's a point to it for Murakami - it's part of his literary project. It's a valid objection, though. I'm not really Murakami's biggest fan myself.

>> No.1219791

>>1219785
It's good though.
Don't let one anon change your mind.

>> No.1219801

>>1219780
Not really. The story was still quite fun to read.

>> No.1219806

>>1219791
It's not the first time I hear about that. I really hated American Psycho when he talks about Genesis or whatever. I know it has a purpose, but it doesn't change the fact that it's boring to read.

>> No.1219829

>>1219806
Yeah, I couldn't help but think of that chapter where they seemed to literally just copy a review of Huey Lewis and the News and paste it into the book when I read Kafka on the Shore. Granted, Kafka on the Shore isn't half as bad as American Psycho when it comes to wasting paper with useless shit (yeah yeah I guess it exemplifies how shallow yuppies are or something) but it does get on your nerves after a while.

>> No.1219846

>>1219773

Thats not what I meant. While he does mention Kafka a lot in his books. He's also trying his best to BE like Kafka. Which is kind of lame.

I mean not that I'm complaining, I love both authors. But c'mon

>> No.1219929

Something is bugging me with Kafka on the Shore. I won't bother with another topic so I'll ask here.

I'm not a big fan of anime and manga. I do not hate it and I do watch or read some, but I dislike wackiness and how woman are represented. So I picked this novel, expecting to see a different view on Japanese life. But what I found is something that is present in nearly every anime and manga. You have all the things there. Guy talking to cats, ufos, some gore, and teenage protagonist who gets a handjob from the first girl that he meets.

So, the problem I have is why is noone openly hating this in a book as much as they openly hate it in manga?

>> No.1219933
File: 34 KB, 550x403, Dali_Temptation_of_St_Anthony.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
1219933

Something is bugging me with Kafka on the Shore. I won't bother with another topic so I'll ask here.

I'm not a big fan of anime and manga. I do not hate it and I do watch or read some, but I dislike wackiness and how woman are represented. So I picked this novel, expecting to see a different view on Japanese life. But what I found is something that is present in nearly every anime and manga. You have all the things there. Guy talking to cats, ufos, some gore, and teenage protagonist who gets a handjob from the first girl that he meets.

So, the problem I have is why is no one openly hating this in a book as much as they openly hate it in manga?

>> No.1219936

>>1219929

Don't turn this into a manga thread on /lit/. Please don't.

>> No.1219941

>>1219933

Sorry doublepost.
Problems with capcha.

>> No.1219945

>>1219933

because literature is more 'serious' than cartoons

>> No.1219957

>>1219945
~not in my anime reality~