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Is this man proof that it really is possible to end suffering?

Can you actually become a god through meditation? If there's any test that's worth anything, it's being set on fire and never responding. This is crazy. How could the mind become this Herculean? Is it possible to learn this power?

>> No.12192467

He still suffered idiot

>> No.12192481

>>12192467

How do you know? Pain isn't the same as suffering. Remaining sanguine while you're conscious and on fire would seem to indicate pretty strongly that you have put an end to suffering.

>> No.12192515

>>12192463
The desire to escape suffering is peak nihilism. Liberation comes from embracing suffering, to find something worth suffering for and to suffer for it. Suffering is finite but the meaning created through it is immortal.

>> No.12192525 [DELETED] 

>>12192481
>Suffering is finite
True.
>but the meaning created through it is immortal.
Not true.

>> No.12192540

>>12192515
>meaning created through it is immortal
What do you mean by this? It really sounds false.

>> No.12192544

>>12192463
>Can you actually become a god through meditation?
you don't understand what these words mean.

>Is it possible to learn this power?
>"learn" a "power"
i can smell the mtn dew and cheetos. go back to running epic PVE bot raids to munchkin your main.

>> No.12192551
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12192551

love that dionysian laceration

>> No.12192569

>>12192544

You can't learn powers? Are you telling me Lucas is a bad screenwriter? I'm getting mad right now.

>> No.12192666

>>12192463
First things first, anon. I bet you're not even sitting up straight in your chair.

>> No.12192681

>>12192463
How did he do it? This is not a specific, famous monk or shit like that, this was a random nigga out of a bunch.

How did he manage to lay there as if nothing was happening?

>> No.12192711

>>12192681
self-discipline, love of country, and answering the call to speak against the genocide of Vietnamese people in the most clear language

>> No.12192756

>>12192463
Kek all this shit is just a COPE.

Jesus: bro just be a good guy and dont get attached to material world. After death it will be great.
Mohhamad: durka durka do gods will and get your reward AFTER death.
Buddha: Heh you suffer because you want stuff, stop wanting and you won't suffer.
Stoic: do what you cant and must and dont bother with the rest.

>> No.12192762

>>12192463
>become a god

Learning to be happy with your own impotence hardly makes you a god

As for the picture, the guy killed himself as a petty political statement, he's closer to a fanatic than even a saint

>> No.12192775

>>12192681
the lengths human fanaticism can go to are really astounding
people can do just about anything if they have enough religious fever in them

>> No.12192801

>>12192762

Isn't power over yourself the greatest power of all?

Fanatic? How does that address the ability to sit calmly while you burn to death? Who the hell can do that but an extremely powerful/ascended being?

>> No.12192802

>>12192775
*fervor
Now get off my board you illiterate.

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>>12192802
>fever isn't a word

>> No.12192941

>>12192463
FUCK YOU I WON'T DO WHAT YOU TELL ME FUCK YOU I WON'T DO WHAT YOU TELL ME FUCK YOU I WON'T DO WHAT YOU TELL ME FUCK YOU I WON'T DO WHAT YOU TELL ME FUCK YOU I WON'T DO WHAT YOU TELL ME FUCK YOU I WON'T DO WHAT YOU TELL ME FUCK YOU I WON'T DO WHAT YOU TELL ME

>> No.12194582

>>12192463
Now I must admit that I could not read at all and take your problem to be some inane bullshit.

Go to the shower and sleep. To work tomorrow. No other advice will come.

>> No.12194631

>>12192463
The kind of discipline and meditative practices Buddhist monks subject themselves to are fucking tough as hell. Yes it has a real impact.

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>>12192463
I believe he suffered as well.
Suffering is needed, its an evolutionary advantage, gives you motivation to actually do thing or to accept (or initiate)changes.

If people would be happy with berry gathering and monkey hunting we would still live in a shit huts MAX.

I'm setting a tesis such that: Pain, fear and other ways of suffering are the only things that motivates people to seek improvement or absolutes...

>> No.12194672

>>12192463
his face is of suffering and discomfort and of repressing that suffering and discomfort. he is not pure peace in that image. dont fool yourself.

>> No.12194689

>>12194643
>evolutionary advantage
no suck thing

>> No.12194708

>>12192540
it was a motivational quote he saw on facebook

>> No.12194732

>>12192463
The source of suffering can be transcended only through martial struggle and noble order. The nobler the world becomes, the less suffering there will be.

>> No.12194746

>>12194643
>If people would be happy with berry gathering and monkey hunting we would still live in a shit huts MAX
which would be a more fulfilling existence, fit for the human body and psyche ironically enough

>> No.12194752

>>12192666
First things first, I'm the realest!

>> No.12194755

>>12192756
>Stoic: do what you cant and must and dont bother with the rest.
Dou mean "do what you can"?

>> No.12194790

>>12192941
MOTHAFUCKKAAAAAAAA

>> No.12194826

>>12194790
Laugh at Budd's hat
Purely comical
How could anyone wear it?
How could anyone wear it?

>> No.12196047

he was probably loaded up on some nice golden triangle SMACK

>> No.12196353

>>12192463
Complete sense-withdrawal is babby tier meditation stuff. You could literally learn this in less than a year of consistent practice.

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12196465

Great question, such terrible fucking responses. Suffering in Buddhism is always defined that which is in excess of (constructive) suffering, you think the Middle Way isn't its own kind of suffering?

>>12192467
No shit he felt pain you absolute fucking trogolodyte, OP isn't actually asking how to turn your pain nerves off, but how to turn off your responsivity to pain, which burning to death without making a squeak handily proves is possible.

>>12192762
>>12192775

>lol dude experiencing probably the most excruciating death imaginable without making a sound or moving a finger is just religious fanatacism and politics lol

go put your hand on a stove for 5 seconds and come back and tell us how "religious fanaticism" would help you endure it. I'll wait

fucking low iq reddit mongs leave

And yes OP, to answer your question: having that kind of mastery over your consciousness might as well mean you're ascended

>> No.12196508

>>12194672
>his face is of suffering and discomfort
well yeah no shit, he's on fucking fire