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>dude if everyone was individually good then the world would be collectively good lmao
>dude lobsters dominance heirarchy lmao

I really liked his lectures but this is just lame

>> No.12187012

>>12187004
>>dude if everyone was individually good then the world would be collectively good lmao
this is true, though

>> No.12187014

>>12187012
yeah but it's also really obvious

>> No.12187021

>>12187012
Jung + this is where he shines
the rest is kinda mediocre

>> No.12187042
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12187042

>>12187012

conception of good gets muddled the more collectively minded you become, because to accept individuality as a whole you must also accept that your good will stifle other people's good.

>> No.12187183

>>12187004
Take your damn pills, bucko. After all, Jordan Peterson is believed by many to be the greatest thinker that humanity has ever known. He is Father Figure, Philosopher-King, and Prophet to the millions of young men who are his most fervent fans and followers. He is the central figure of the Intellectual Dark Web, an academic celebrity, and an unparalleled media phenomenon who has shattered all conceptions of what it means to be modern celebrity in the Internet Age.

He has, by his own admission, thought thoughts that no man has ever thought before. He has dared to dream dreams that no man has ever dreamed before.

Of course, Jordan Peterson also happens to be a narcissist, a charlatan, and an intellectual con man who doesn't even bother to learn the subjects upon which he lectures. He is a defender of free speech who silences other speakers, a fearless free-thinker who never hesitates to run away from debates, difficult questions, and controversial issues, a philosopher who rejects the conventional definition of truth, and a learned professor who has failed to read most of the great classics of the Western canon. He is, in short, a shameless and unrepentant fraud who lacks even a modicum of intellectual integrity.

>> No.12187200

>>12187042
That's only if you assume moral relativity. If morality comes from God, then right and just conduct will be the same without having to trample the individual

>> No.12187234

>>12187200

Except everybody has a different interpretation of God. And to force a specific interpretation of morality and god is to initiate a dogma. And we all know exactly what bad has come from that, spanish inquisition maybe?

>> No.12187396

>>12187200
Individualism and belief in the Christian god are incompatable ideas

>> No.12187402

>>12187004
Even as someone who likes certain things Peterson has to say, that lobster chapter has to be the most completely skippable chapter I've ever read. All that business just to get to "Be Confident, lol". I feel like he put it in as bait for those gotcha interviews he does where some dumb journalist asks "LMAO THOU BELIEVETH LOBSTERS AND PEOPLE BEETH THE SAME?!!" so he can be in those "Liberal Reporter raped by facts" clickbait vids.

>> No.12187522

>>12187402
The point of the chapter was to prove a sort of positivism to behavior, thereby suggesting it can be manipulated, obviously.

>> No.12187565

>>12187234

>And we all know exactly what bad has come from that, Islam maybe?

FTFY.