Foucault

[Anonymous No.12165194]

Genius, hack, or neither? Why?

[Anonymous No.12165225]

>>12165194
average thinker
copped out of making positive claims
made claims based on his own willful distortions of history
his whole philosophy is based on misunderstandings of nietzsche
we'd be better off if he didn't exist

[Anonymous No.12165227]

evil guy

[Anonymous No.12165241]

wishful thinker and absolutely ideological

[Anonymous No.12165252]

Extremely brilliant, probably a genius.
Have only read 100 pages or so of Discipline and Punish which was surprisingly readable, though Im sure I missed much.

The idea of power existing in places like medicine and psychiatry is fascinating. It seems to be a major idea of his that post enlightenment free-thinking man was chartered for the convenience of power and its emancipatory posture is a veil. Man is a prisoner of this system, not its beneficiary.

[Anonymous No.12165256]

>>12165194
>PRISONS
He stated the obvious.

[Anonymous No.12165261]

rehashed heidegger

[Anonymous No.12165266]

>>12165261
that's derrida. but instead of being based and redpilled, he was depressed and jewish.
foucault is just aids nietzsche.

[Anonymous No.12165283]

OP here, just going to say that I have only read This is Not a Pipe and while I found it initially quite difficult, once I parsed it I found the discussion of the hierarchical bond between objects and words interesting, and the idea of severing that bond was one of the best ways I've ever heard the idea of post-modern episteme deconstruction put forward before. I was mostly wondering if I should go on to his other stuff or just stop here.

[Anonymous No.12165303]

>>12165225
>>12165261
>>12165266
>>12165256
Guys please do not comment in the thread if your knowledge consists exclusively of hearsay. This makes for bad board quality.

[Anonymous No.12165309]

>>12165283
If it interests you why not.
Power is hard to define though and not the best metric to measure words.

[Anonymous No.12165313]

>>12165303
Guy please refute our claims before directing us to be quiet.

[Anonymous No.12165319]

>>12165266
historicity of dasein and aletheia bro

[Anonymous No.12165325]

>>12165313
You cannot actually make claims about an author you have never studied yourself. You can only make claims about things youve heard about them.

[Anonymous No.12165340]

>>12165325
>>12165303
what is knowledge?

shut the fuck up nigger

[Anonymous No.12165375]

yo i was listening to the audiobook "the fifties" by david halberstam (comfy level off the charts) and it gave me a new appreciation for elvis, i grew up with the hip hop generation where rappers constantly talked shit about elvis to the point he seemed similar if not worse than hitler, but it turns out elvis was actually pretty fuckin rad for his time which is to say the early 50s

[Anonymous No.12165384]

>>12165194
he was a neo proto-fascist

[Anonymous No.12165478]

>>12165252
Do you usually enable pedophiles or just Foucault?

[Anonymous No.12165520]

>>12165194
Both

[Anonymous No.12165694]

>>12165194
Genius

[Anonymous No.12165699]

A genius, unless you're obsessed with JBP

[Anonymous No.12165723]

He was ok. His work concerning prisons red pilled me on the prison system. However I didn't like his criticisms of religion. I feel that he was just bitter because he was gay and they didn't accept him.

[Anonymous No.12165743]

>>12165194
He wears a turtleneck so he's obviously a fuckwit

[Anonymous No.12165769]

>gay homosexual sadomasochistic aids faggot
>reverred by post-structural queer-theory spewing feminists and anti-racists

might as well read fanon if you wanna read useless shite

[Anonymous No.12165789]

>>12165194
evil postmodern neo marxist. now wash ur dick

[Anonymous No.12165964]

>>12165194
This is how i pictured the mathematician in Jurassic park

[Anonymous No.12166406]

Why didn't Foucualt just deconstruct the power relations of the HIV colonising his rectum?

[Anonymous No.12166604]

>>12165769
>>12166406
Based

[Anonymous No.12166684]

>>12165309
foucault addresses this

[Anonymous No.12166689]

>>12165789
murdock murdoch where hath thou gone!

[Anonymous No.12166690]

>>12165194
more like cuckault

[Anonymous No.12167105]

>>12165194
>ripped off angela davis without credit in his most popular work

[Anonymous No.12167123]

>>12167105
foucault was writing his most important works while davis was still getting blowbang bukkaked by the panthers, fuck off

[Anonymous No.12167135]

He's just a hack who took subjectivity for all its worth and incorporated that into a theory of power structures and prevailing opinions. Literally the philosophy of a precocious edgy teen.The only difference is that Foucault is adored by lesbians and postmodernist loons.

[Anonymous No.12167146]

>>12167135
Yeah and he’s gay.

[Anonymous No.12167147]

>>12165227
Pseud-level "ideology"

[Anonymous No.12167161]

>>12165375
Goddammit, reddit

[Anonymous No.12167165]

>>12167146
This too. Filthy sodomite. Got what he deserved tbqh.

[Anonymous No.12167166]

Yet another thread about a thinker containing not a single post demonstrating the most basic familiarity with their work.

Its just pointless, completely pointless. Why do you carry on like this?

[Anonymous No.12167174]

>>12167161
actually thats not reddit but old/lit/ back when people talked about booked besides stereotyped memes

[Anonymous No.12167183]

>>12167166
His ideas on authority and power were obviously absurd coming from the sadomasochist mind. His ideas about history as an active force in contemporary society were genius.

He was still a faggot.

[Anonymous No.12167203]

>>12167166
Who cares? Foucault was a homo

[Anonymous No.12167204]

>>12167183
Why do you feel the need to have opinions on everything or to demonstrate familiarity with complex topics while posting anonymously?

Please take your Google-search Youtube Wikipedia cereal brain and go to another board where the theme is not reading books.

[Anonymous No.12167206]

Man this thread wouldn't know a book if it was covered in BBC-cum and shoved 26 centimetres up its ass.
>>12166604
Fuck you, /pol/tard r/fag
>>12165769
Fanon is worth a glance, at least as much as Badiou, you fucking illiterate pseud. Learn how to read words your retard bias hasn't already given the retard stamp of approval.

[Anonymous No.12167226]

>>12167105
What? How? Intersectionality something or other?

[Anonymous No.12167235]

>>12167226
angela davis is an old school marxist not an intersecionalityist, to bad all her writing is bland boilerplate commie shit and her only real claim to fame is providing the gun for that dude who iced a judge, so then again as a marxist i guess she did more than 99% of marxist professors ever will even if it was a futile gesture

[Anonymous No.12167237]

>>12167204
Are you trying to accuse me of posturing....anonymously? You make about as much sense as Foucault trying to feel a part of society after realizing all he wants to do is exert power over others because inside his heart he was absolutely powerless. Every leather jacket and turtleneck in the works won’t change that.

[Anonymous No.12167238]

>>12167174
>"booked Elvis back in '89, newfag
>book all the time, hell r/bookfag ova heah
>you dont even book, newfag, ive been on this bored reading bios of rockstars and presidential since '17
>get on my level"

[Anonymous No.12167247]

>>12167235
>wrong
>wrong wrong so wrong, I hate you kys

[Anonymous No.12167249]

>>12167238
its not a bio faggot its putting elvis into his cultural context of the pre-civil rights south, and yeah if elvis hadnt exist someone else would have been elvis, but still elvis was elvis, deal with it

[Anonymous No.12167254]

>>12167235
show me an intersectional statement from angela davis or are you a just faggot who watches jordan peterson youtubes

[Anonymous No.12167279]

>>12165227
someone hating on bataille? give me a rundown on this book..

[Anonymous No.12167281]

>>12167237
Just leave. Go away, stop ruining what was once a great board.

Better yet, go read a book about Foucault. Try reading the Stanford Encylopedia entry for him-- all of it. Learn something. It will be fun and exciting.

[Anonymous No.12167287]

>>12167249
Naw dumbass, Elvis was what he was because he was who he was using what was available to be the most Elvis he could be. You're just a sniveling bitch.

[Anonymous No.12167298]

>>12167254
Read "Black Feminist Thought" you motherfucking retard. I've been reading Davis since before you first thumbed your asshole, and just because you're a pseud doesn't mean I give two fucks about all the cucks croaking on about "muh liburrals rights" and fingering Foucault as the forebearer of their dead, white, suburban bitchboi advantages.

[Anonymous No.12167307]

>>12167298
>Black Feminist Thought
>book not even by angela davis published in 1990

foucault died in 1984 you utter brainlet

[Anonymous No.12167314]

>>12167281
So how much longer do you have as a teaching assistant until they throw you out into reality?

Are you trying to gatekeep the /lit/ board? Don’t be mad at us all of this is simply the newest iteration of the world. If you don’t like this culture jamming blame Saul Alinsky and your fellow cabal of lefties.

In the meantime enjoy your soi.

[Anonymous No.12167324]

>>12165194
He bascially destroyed about 75% of poli sci by leading future lecturers into a hole that most of them can't think their way out of.

[Anonymous No.12167332]

>>12165227
>>12167279
nevermind. read the introduction. good shit

[Anonymous No.12167350]

>>12167307
>READ the book, including Davis' comments on the INTERSECTIONS of race and sex undergirding one of the most relevant frameworks for intersectionality
>you fucking dumbass
>still no indication of where Foucault "ripped off" davis
>is still a fucking retard
>still hasnt read a single thing by either Davis, Foucault, Collins, or Dorothy Smith

[Anonymous No.12167357]

>>12167314
Kek shut up you lil zoomer newfag, /pol/tard newfag /r/tard hahaha seriously kill your 15 yr old self

[Anonymous No.12167363]

>>12167350
>still no indication of where Foucault "ripped off" davis

if you're such an angela davis expert why can't you point to a primary source that predates foucault, moreover, foucault didnt write about intersectionality

[Anonymous No.12167369]

>>12167357
Absolutely buttmurdered

[Anonymous No.12167376]

The hysteric asshole screeching about Angela Davis is exactly how I imagine anyone who has read anything by Angela Davis. Pottery.

[Anonymous No.12167387]

>>12167376
Pretty much

Her whole thing is like “ TEE HEE AFROS ARE COOL WHITE GUYS ARE LIKE TOOOOTALLY RUDE!”

She was just the proto-hipster. Nothing special.

[Anonymous No.12167413]

>>12167387
she was overcompensating for being like 75% white like kapernick

[Anonymous No.12167418]

>>12167363
>"if you're such an angela davis expert why can't you point to a primary source that predates foucault, moreover, foucault didnt write about intersectionality"
Ding ding ding
>hasn't given any actual sources to support original claim of Foucault ripping off Davis despite original claim holding burden of proof
>factual progression of influence demonstrating both Foucault's influence on Davis but also his infulence on the doctrinal history behind Intersectionality
>pseudism

[Anonymous No.12167419]

>>12167413
we truly live in the era of FAWKKK U DADDY U CANT TELL ME WUT TO DO

[Anonymous No.12167422]

>>12167369
>buttmurdered
>past-tense of "butthurt"
>"butt"
>being 15

[Anonymous No.12167423]

>>12167418
angela davis was a card carrying member of the fucking mainstream orthodox stalinist cpusa that was directly controlled by soviet russia right up until the end of soviet communism, she was a fucking boring generic marxist with a nice fro, that is all

[Anonymous No.12167429]

>>12167422
Your ex girlfriend is gonna be mad at you for being Ageist. Be careful you’re on thin ice.

[Anonymous No.12167442]

>>12167281
Stop posturing you ignorant fuck.

[Anonymous No.12167457]

>>12167442
He’s just mad that the same jocks that gave him swirlies in school are now cracking jokes at all the dumb philosophical books and ideas he took safe harbor in to emotionally COPE. Just like Foucault.

[Anonymous No.12167460]

>>12165194
both

[Anonymous No.12167464]

>>12167457
imagine being such an insecure brainlet that you feel bullied by foucault lmao

[Anonymous No.12167470]

>>12167464
Oh sweetie

[Anonymous No.12167480]

>>12167464
hes obviously baiting. the other guy too probably

[Anonymous No.12167486]

>>12167423
You are a literal pseud if you think a black, female, feminist commie in the '60s was not advocating for an intersectional understanding of race, class, and sex-based oppression. It fucking doesn't matter your opinion on intersectionality or feminism or Foucault - this is just an undeniable fact. And you have yet to actually show Foucault "ripping off" such an easy person to point to for intersectionality as Davis, because YOU only understand Foucault and Davis and intersectionality from the retarded view of someone like JBP. Because you, like, Peterson, have never read any of it for yourself. Dumbass pseud.

[Anonymous No.12167496]

>>12167486
davis wasnt part of the 60s youth movement though, she was from the pre-60s stalinist left, which as a self-proclaimed expert in all things angela davis you should have known, she was involved with the panthers but she was at least a decade older them

[Anonymous No.12167499]

>>12167480
Ofcourse I am it’s why you’re losing.

I should thank the nu-left for gifting me absurdist comedy and the ability to make things truly subversive. There was a lull in anything cultural there for a moment.

[Anonymous No.12167516]

>>12167496
Jesus I have no idea why, I don't even give a fuck about Foucault or Davis or anything else, but I have never hated anyone more for their wrongness than you in this moment right now. Excellent fucking bait you goddam pseud asshole.

[Anonymous No.12167732]

>>12167486
FOUCAULT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH INTERSECTIONALITY SHUT UP
YOU HAVE NEVER EVEN READ HIM

[Anonymous No.12167764]

>>12167105
Highly effective shitposter. Fuck you and your kind.

>>12167298
Worst kind of troll

>>12167307
Fell for the bait

[Anonymous No.12167942]

>>12167332
>nevermind. read the introduction
where did you find it?

[Anonymous No.12168124]

>be liberal degenerate faggot
>make excuses for extremely reactionary theocracies
why

[Anonymous No.12168129]

>>12168124
Have you even read MAGA Mindset by Mike Cernovich?

[Anonymous No.12168130]

>>12168124
he was a sub that liked to be dom'd. he had a fetish for powerful people asserting their dominance over him, that's why he wrote so much about power - he got sexual thrill out of it

[Anonymous No.12168135]

>>12168129
No, why should I?

[Anonymous No.12168136]

>>12168124
>>12168130
this, it was all a sexual thing, he was only considered left because at the time being transgressive was left wing

[Anonymous No.12168138]

>>12168135
MAGA MINDSET!!!!!!!
Fuck yeah dude u tryna pump it up a lil? Tryna take it NXT LVL swole? Tired of being a little book reading bitch?? Ready to Make America Great Again?!

MIKE CERNOVICH

[Anonymous No.12168153]

>>12168138
you didn't answer my question. Also what does this have to do with Foucault?

[Anonymous No.12168174]

>>12168153
Kek meme time
RETIRED

MAKE EMERICA MAHA EIGEN

RETIRED AGAIN

MIKE SERNOFBITCH

[Anonymous No.12168243]

>>12168174
>Your brain on Chapo trap house

[Anonymous No.12168439]

>>12167942
>By retreating “to the margins of cultural difference” and posing behind a stance of merely verbal harassment aimed at, say, phallocracy or televangelism, the Foucauldians do in fact renounce to antagonize, in a united front, the powers that be. Superficially, what seems most contradictory of these Foucauldians is their use of reason to humiliate reason, and of rational language (what they refer to as “discourse”) to celebrate chaos: more than a contradiction, this is “cheating” Georges Bataille himself admitted. “The realm of thought,” he said, “is horror. Yes, it is horror itself. It is like slipping in the night, on the pitch of a roof, with no parapet and in a wind that nothing appeases. The more thought is rigorous, the more the menace intensifies.”

[Anonymous No.12168520]

>All knowledge is based on power, therefore can't say anything relevant about 'objective truth'
>Apart from the above claim itself, obviously
HACK

[Anonymous No.12169038]

>>12167732
Who are you shouting at, pseud?

[Anonymous No.12169050]

>>12167732
/Lit/erally this guy >>12167486 is arguing with the retard saying Foucault ripped off Angela Davis, and the pseud saying Angela Davis has nothing to do with intersectionality because he only views like JBP cuckslave

[Anonymous No.12169066]

>>12168520
Actually, all power is based on knowledge.

[Anonymous No.12169116]

>>12169066
what about gorillas? those things are powerful but know nothing

[Anonymous No.12169185]

>>12169116
They know the process of actualizing peer advantages produced from deployment of physical-strength action sets upon the field of their social reality.

[Anonymous No.12169267]

Ehs a pretty based guy who wasnt afraid of getting us past the Marx phase but also had no qualms about incorporating Marxian concepts in his work.

[Anonymous No.12169339]

>>12165252
>It seems to be a major idea of his that post enlightenment free-thinking man was chartered for the convenience of power and its emancipatory posture is a veil. Man is a prisoner of this system, not its beneficiary.
Probably true, but there's nothing wrong with Power per se.

[Anonymous No.12169576]

>>12165194
isn't this the guy that the anime "Fist of the North Star" is based on?

[Anonymous No.12169583]

>>12166406
underrated

[Anonymous No.12169776]

>>12165194
he ugly

[Anonymous No.12170604]

>>12167324
What hole would that be?

[Anonymous No.12170808]

>>12169576
You're thinking of "One Punch Man"

[Anonymous No.12171832]

>>12169583
cringe