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how do I into aristotle? I want to understand him as well as possible.

>> No.12162098

>>12162086
study the organon

>> No.12162104

Reading some Plato is helpful, given the amount of times he is referenced. I'm not that deep in Aristotle unfortunately but my experience so far tells me that reading some work from his teacher and making comparisons is the best way to go.

>> No.12162139

>>12162104
which works of plato should I read before getting into aristotle?

>> No.12162143

>>12162139
The Republic is a definite and also meme tier

>> No.12162151

>>12162143
Its only meme tier because its mandatory reading in some schools and folks think finishing and understanding it is all you need to become a philosopher.

Start here, go deeper.

>> No.12162162

This but also for Plato. Give me the most concise systematic study of them both.

>> No.12162196

>>12162162
I was told by a prof at my phil department to start with theaetetus and sophist and then read the 5 dialogues. Idk about after that tho.

>> No.12162219

Read his major works?

>> No.12162249

>>12162151
The Republic is the cornerstone of western civilization much like the Bible. But unlike the Holy Bible not enough people know of its existence.

>> No.12162316

>>12162219
obviously you imbecile. But in what order?

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>>12162086

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>>12162316
>this fucking question

Do as you please, you fucking slave. Why are you so afraid of free will?

>> No.12162561

you could start with the history of philosophy without gaps. You can get the book or listen to the podcast. The first volume ends with him and gives you a really nice context and an overall view of his philosophy. It's also a light read.

I wouldn't recommend diving into his texts cold you're just gonna end up reading all of em a billion times. Remember people have dedicated their whole lives to those works. But if you're up to it I wish you the best of luck in your trek. If you're going to choose this path you definitely need to read some Plato.

>> No.12162562

>>12162316
It really doesn't matter.

>> No.12162566

>>12162316
Ethics

>> No.12162757

>>12162316
Organon (Categories, De Interpretatione, Prior and Posterior Analytics), Physics, Metaphysics, De Anima, Nicomachean Ethics, Politics, Poetics, Rhetoric

>> No.12163272

>>12162086
Pray to one of the greek gods, with his magic he'll surely turn you into aristotle! And you'll able to see all his memories and understand him.

>> No.12163461

http://www.sunypress.edu/p-1111-a-history-of-ancient-philosophy.aspx

>> No.12163491

>>12162086
Read his books
Use secondary sources whenever you don't understand
Use secondary sources even if you think that you are understanding

>> No.12163564

>>12162086
Read commentators in advance, then read his work. Otherwise, it is very likely that you will miss 80% of his content.

>> No.12163605

Rist, Mind of Aristotle is a good bok

>> No.12164859

>>12162139
Crito, Meno, The Statesman (for Aristotle's Nicomachean Ethics and Politics), Gorgias, Protagoras, Euthydemus (for Aristotle's Organon and Rhetoric), Phaedo, Theaetetus (for Aristotle's On the Soul), Parmenides, Timaeus (for Aristotle's Physics and Metaphysics), Io, Symposium (for Aristotle's Poetics).

>> No.12164936

>>12164859
This is what I was looking for. Thank you!