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[Anonymous No.12136824]

diogenes is the most based philosopher. prove me wrong

[Anonymous No.12136857]

>>12136824
I don't know if I can prove you wrong, but I really liked Epicurus. He is from roughly the same epoch (helenistic world). I also like the Stoics.

[Anonymous No.12136861]

If there's a more based philosopher, then Diogenes is not the most based. There's a more based philosopher. Therefore, Diogenes is not the most based. QED.

[Anonymous No.12136884]

Diogenes is the Reddit philosopher. The most based is, in fact, Kant.

[Anonymous No.12136890]

>>12136884
As someone with zero background in philosophy.
What makes Diogenes a "reddit" philosopher? What makes Kant based?

[Anonymous No.12136897]

>>12136890
>As someone with zero background in philosophy.
That makes two of us. I have no idea desu senpai, Kant seems smart while Diogenes seems too popular among idiots

[Anonymous No.12136902]

>>12136884
a new challenger appears

[Anonymous No.12136904]

>>12136890
this guy's personal opinion, that's it.
Take everything on this board with a pinch of salt.

[Anonymous No.12136910]

>>12136890
Diogenes masturbated in public for attention (very Reddit); Kant tied his arms to his bedposts to stop himself from masturbating as it broke the categorical imperative (incredibly based).

[Anonymous No.12136912]

>>12136890
because any account of Diogenes has been filtered through 500 people with 500 different tellings

he may as well not have existed and there’s really no philosophy behind him besides damn he doesn’t scared of anythin and he do what he want

[Anonymous No.12136915]

>>12136902
haha is that wolverine

[Anonymous No.12136921]

>>12136824
>no surviving works
>thinks he's the best

This is how I know you don't read philosophy.

[Anonymous No.12136923]

>>12136890
This is the correct answer anon --> >>12136910

[Anonymous No.12136925]

Wrong

[Anonymous No.12136929]

>>12136824
Diogenes has no writings and doesn’t have any of his thought preserved, he’s basically not even a philosopher at this point he’s just a guy who had really good bantz

[Anonymous No.12136930]

>>12136824
Diogenes is an edgy contrarian that only appeals to teenagers and the perpetually childish.

[Anonymous No.12136933]

>>12136890
>What makes Diogenes a "reddit" philosopher?
Well, the people that make threads like this are
>someone with zero background in philosophy

[Anonymous No.12136937]

>>12136925
peta-goras tea-aroma

[Anonymous No.12136975]

>>12136929
>bantz
>Not philosophy
>Current year

[Anonymous No.12136991]

he was a narcissist. but he sure as hell showed society its own hypocrisy better than any man has before or after

[Anonymous No.12137012]

Diogenes is the containment board of philosophy. He has no works just a few edgy, bastardized quotes and you can enjoy and understand him with about 70iq so anyone that hasn’t read any philosophy can choose him as their favorite and explain to people why they like him

>so what’s his philosophy
well, you see, he doesn’t take shit from anyone and he lived in a barrel haha FUCK materialism amirite anyway Check Out these yeezys

[Anonymous No.12137018]

>>12136991
haha he GOTEEM made societyhis BITCH haHa

[Anonymous No.12137475]

>>12136890
Kant did to philosophy what Luther did to Western Christianity.

[Anonymous No.12137585]

>>12136861
If P then Q
P (unsupported)
Therefore Q

Support your fucking premise you insufferable cunt

[Anonymous No.12137624]

>>12137475
>THAT HELIOCENTRIC SHIFT NIGGAAAS

get a brain of your own plebiscite

[Anonymous No.12137682]

It is said that the synics would cary with them two cloaks and a staff. I remember reading somewhere that when asked why the staff a famous cynic, or even Diogenes himself, said it was for the same reasons the poets used it; protection against the gods. Does anyone know where I can look to find insight on the relationship between the staff,poets and the gods.

[Anonymous No.12137686]

>>12136933
or
>joking
you fucking retard nigger

[Anonymous No.12137694]

>>12137475
>tfw Lutherian

Based Kant

[Anonymous No.12137697]

>>12136824
Diogenes is a fictional character prove me wrong.

[Anonymous No.12137705]

>>12137585
I don't have to support anything because it's implied someone else could do it for me.

[Anonymous No.12137707]

>>12136921
>no surviving works
more like no works at all
implying philosophy is something you read rather than something you do

[Anonymous No.12137717]

>>12136824
the diogenes meme was funny years ago but seeing kids spout it off now just makes me sad

[Anonymous No.12137721]

>>12136991
libtard society owned, epic style

[Anonymous No.12137758]

>>12137697
Oh cool I've never met another solipsist

[Anonymous No.12137828]

>>12136890
Diogenes is the reddit philosopher because he is paraded and lauded purely out of the fact he did crazy and wacky shit in the time he was alive, with no actual regard given to his actual philosophy. I would doubt the average Diogenes fan could actually tell you what his philosophy was
Kant is based because almost all Western philosophy after him was in reaction to his works, and set up one of the most solid moral frameworks in philosophy
Objectively speaking, the only reason Kant is wrong is because human beings are not governed by reason but instead the Will to Live
>>12136902
Schopenhauer is based on the fact that everything he wrote on the Will being insatiable, and is only wrong in his general despair about the human condition

[Anonymous No.12137832]

>>12137828
Schopenhauer is very based

[Anonymous No.12137835]

Diogenes was the pajeet of ancient greece

[Anonymous No.12137842]

>>12137624
a plebiscite is an election, you troglodyte.

[Anonymous No.12137850]

>>12136910
how is that Reddit-tier? you could argue that sort of conduct would be more likely to happen from a "4channer", as basedboys on Reddit would find such an act offensive and somehow sexist

[Anonymous No.12137857]

>>12137828
>hes a small meme on reddit so he is a reddit philosopher
thats not how it works dipshit

[Anonymous No.12137861]

>>12136910
So the guy who followed societal norms and conventions is the guy who isn’t reddit?

[Anonymous No.12137873]

>>12137850
this isn't '06 newbuddy

[Anonymous No.12137890]

>>12136975
>Comedians are modern day philosophers XD
>>12136991
>but he sure as hell showed society its own hypocrisy better than any man has before or after
You're clearly oblivious to the most memed philospher of all time. See pic.

[Anonymous No.12137925]

>>12137857
The fact of the matter is that being 'reddit' is irrelevant of one's actual existence on reddit, but rather a thing's ability to fit the redditor state of being.
He belongs to the worst kind of redditor- a hedonistic little thing who values something solely at the enjoyment and feeling of superiority being apart of it provides. Learning philosophy is hard, arguing it even harder. The redditor skips all these steps and immediately goes for the philosopher who's works don't even have to be read, who's ideas are meaningless and unused for the utility he provides them as 'their philosopher'.
When confronted on philosophy, the redditor, when not choosing Jordan Peterson, goes to Diogenes, because 'he masturbated with shit, lived in a barrel, and told Alexander the Great to fuck off, and thats pretty epic!', and thinks himself high-minded because of it

[Anonymous No.12137941]

>make meme
>people take it seriously
>arguing ensues

[Anonymous No.12137942]

>>12136824
You have to be >17 years of age to post on 4channel.

[Anonymous No.12137964]

>>12136824
>prove me wrong
I can't

[Anonymous No.12137979]

ITT: People who understand Diogenes as poorly as the Redditors they're mocking.

[Anonymous No.12137980]

>>12137828
>Objectively speaking, the only reason Kant is wrong is because human beings are not governed by reason but instead the Will to Live

That and the fact that his supposed equivalent statements of the categorical imperative are not in fact logically equivalent without greatly distorting basic definitions.

[Anonymous No.12137985]

>>12137890
It's a shame Nietszche lived before Twitter. The platform suits his level of thought perfectly.

[Anonymous No.12137995]

Wittgenstein beat children as a schoolteacher, used to stare at the blackboard while reciting Tagore during Vienna Circle meetings, threatened Karl Popper with a poker, and quit writing after he finished his first book because he thought he 'solved' philosophy, among other things. However, the line between 'based' and autism is thin here, as with most philosophers.

[Anonymous No.12137999]

>>12137985
Level, or style?

[Anonymous No.12138025]

>>12137979
t. redditor

[Anonymous No.12138124]

>>12137475
Saved it?

[Anonymous No.12138179]

>>12137475
>tfw patrilineally related to Martin Luther
Feels good

[Anonymous No.12138234]

>>12138124
unironically based

[Anonymous No.12138529]

>>12136824
try Buddha

[Anonymous No.12138539]

>>12136857
Epicureanism is the real deal.

[Anonymous No.12138583]

>>12136824

[Anonymous No.12138597]

Diogenes was epic. Telling Alexander to stand out of the sun, Alexander laughs, says he would be Diogenes if he was not Alexander. There is much in this - think!

[Anonymous No.12138751]

>>12137995
that's pretty fucking based
>>12138179
comfy gif

[Anonymous No.12138965]

>>12138529

Yep

[Anonymous No.12139036]

Where can I read about all of Diogenes' escapades?

[Anonymous No.12139175]

le epin cynicism

[Anonymous No.12140044]

>>12136930
so /ourguy/ in other words.