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garnet vs p&v Anonymous Thu Nov 22 16:58:26 2018 No.12123526 [Reply] [Original]

which one's better for brothers k

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 22 17:02:01 2018 No.12123538 >>12123526 P&V. No question about it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 22 17:02:50 2018 No.12123540 >>12123538 why does lit get so butt mad every time you reference Penis and Vagina

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 22 17:37:31 2018 No.12123732 >>12123540 must be because they don't get it ha . . ha . . . . . . . ha

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 22 17:38:17 2018 No.12123738 >>12123526 For Brothers K, I'd recommend the Ignat Avsey translation

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 23 00:18:19 2018 No.12125159 >>12123526 blump

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 23 00:19:23 2018 No.12125161 >>12123526 McDuff tbqh

Anonymous Fri Nov 23 06:41:20 2018 No.12125886

>>12125161
This.
>>12123738
I read half of his "The Idiot" before switching to the McDuff, and I got annoyed at how he'd change the names. I can't remember exactly what was wrong, but he was mixing up how the patronymics and family names were used iirc, and I think he used "Myshkin" when the text - and the other translations I looked at - said "Prince" or something like that too.
>>12123540
Why does Pevear write such shitty prose?

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 23 07:37:41 2018 No.12126068 Literally anything is better than Garnett. Google Translate is a better choice than Garnett.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 23 07:43:24 2018 No.12126076 Maude or P&V for War & Peace?

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 23 07:49:04 2018 No.12126088 >>12123526 Garnett. P&V are fucking trash

Anonymous Fri Nov 23 07:54:59 2018 No.12126103

>>12126068
Have you read P&V though? The prose is painful and awkward (though maybe their Notes wasn't too bad, iirc). Garnett may take liberties and make Tsarist Russia feel like Edwardian England in some places, but at least she can actually write.
>>12126076
Haven't read either yet, but most here seem to say Maude is good.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 23 08:00:56 2018 No.12126114 >>12123526 https://www.commentarymagazine.com/articles/the-pevearsion-of-russian-literature/

Anonymous Fri Nov 23 11:51:15 2018 No.12126695

>>12123738
Avsey isn't good for american readers. I read the idiot and it was so notably british that it subverted the russian aspects.
>>12123526
revised garnett but PV aren't as bad as all that. the prose is just clunky sometimes.
Macandrew is my favorite, not to add another name to the list, but his prose is fluid and he keeps characters distinct. unfortunately less aphoristic than Garnett but i'd recommend his translation to anyone who wants to read Bros K only once. Mcduff is good too.
>>12126068
no

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