/ghostmodernism/

[Anonymous No.12122061]

who are some writers besides pessoa you could describe as ghostmodernist?

what is ghostmodernism to you?

[Anonymous No.12122069]

>>12122061
>what is ghostmodernism to you?
A made up word by some retard from /lit/

[Anonymous No.12122082]

>>12122061
>what is ghostmodernism to you?
A realization that we are surrounded by spooks: people obsessed with things like race, gender, nationality, religion, as a means of avoiding the responsibility thrust upon all of us to see people as more than artificial identity groups: to see people as human beings with thoughts, personalities, families, hobbies, etc.

[Anonymous No.12122228]

[Anonymous No.12122260]

>>12122061

[Anonymous No.12122266]

>>12122260
Forgot pic

[Anonymous No.12122343]

>>12122069
ghostmodernism isn't meant to be taken as a epoch equivalent to modernism or postmodernism, which i suspect is why most anon's disagree with meming it. ghostmodernism is rather an aesthetic tendency, a snapshot of the peculiar space between intelligible moments in time, between the discrete glacial bodies of history known as "movements" proper.

i am a ghostmodernist, you are a ghostmodernist (in spite of your protestations). ghostmodernism, whether you like it or not, describes something of this peculiar non-moment in history.

or maybe you dont feel the same anhedonia, the same loneliness, as the rest of us do. maybe you do, but dont take the same pleasure in them as we do. the same pleasure in our confinement, the same pleasure in our numbness (think how much hedonism revolves around numbing oneself and then think what purer pleasure can there be than the most radical absence of pleasure, the depths of unfeeling.)

we have given up. modernity has remade us in its inhuman image, run its magnet over us. we are as Leibnizian bare monads, incapable of changing each other, incapable of even touching each other (try it for yourself, and see how your hand passes through!), dulled and drowsed. this stupor of mere perception, so much like being underwater with no sense of up and down, is the ghostmodern condition.

we gibbering rag and bone men of the deserts who range the greenless barrens for scraps and signs of life, collecting rays of light and distant muffled sounds like trinkets for our collection. but it's no use at all, for all we have in that heaving sack of percepts is junk and tatters, unsortable second-hands divorced from their origins. every once in a while we put our sack down, and look it over, thinking to scrutinize the bones, but soon the same dizziness as before comes over us and we sigh at the futility, and again heave up the sack and move on.

this is modern life, postmodern life, ghostmodern life. maybe there will be something next, some grand return of history, but not for us.

i remember a schizophrenic who used to post here about thinking he was dead. someone told him to count the worms to pass the time. he told us there were no worms. he told us there were other creatures but that it had been dark for days, he told us he couldnt even stand upright and that he could hear the fluid hissing out of his joints. he asked us for help and none of us knew what to do. he lives, he said, in a ghost town. after that, i didnt read any further. that was a long time ago. now i have trouble recognizing the faces of people ive know all my life, now sometimes, on the edge of sleep, i feel wetness about my bare feet, and hear something hissing.

We are the hollow men. We are the stuffed men. Leaning together headpiece filled with straw. Alas! Our dried voices, when we whisper together are quiet and meaningless as wind in dry grass, or rats' feet over broken glass in our dry cellar

[Anonymous No.12122362]

>>12122343

so it's anomie

[Anonymous No.12122366]

>>12122343
>i remember a schizophrenic who used to post here about thinking he was dead. someone told him to count the worms to pass the time. he told us there were no worms. he told us there were other creatures but that it had been dark for days, he told us he couldnt even stand upright and that he could hear the fluid hissing out of his joints. he asked us for help and none of us knew what to do. he lives, he said, in a ghost town. after that, i didnt read any further. that was a long time ago. now i have trouble recognizing the faces of people ive know all my life, now sometimes, on the edge of sleep, i feel wetness about my bare feet, and hear something hissing.

You lost me here. This is just nonsensical rambling.

[Anonymous No.12122372]

>>12122366

no it's not

[Anonymous No.12122396]

>>12122343
Never good when your aesthetic and movement sound like an elitist Tyler Durden (the "middle child of history" speech)

[Anonymous No.12122404]

>>12122343
I enjoyed this, anon.

[Anonymous No.12122413]

>>12122366
It isn't, actually

[Anonymous No.12122421]

>>12122396

that's obviously not the entire deal, it's just that poster's creative interpretation of the term. it doesn't even work as a manifesto, if you could even write a manifesto for whatever 'ghost modernism' is

[Anonymous No.12122449]

>>12122396
clearly different since tyler durden's whole deal is anger and pseudo-integration with capital through political action, while ghostmodernism's whole deal is recognition of the technological conditions that make that impossible and the designing of an aesthetic of pleasant nostalgic sadness in order to cope with that

[Anonymous No.12122469]

>>12122061
It sounds very PaulAusterish

[Anonymous No.12122494]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fetSoZFyBw

This...aphorism by Ligotti.

[Anonymous No.12122496]

>>12122449
Fair-- I see more where you're coming from now. It's been about a decade since I read Fight Club, and his sentence
>this is modern life, postmodern life, ghostmodern life. maybe there will be something next, some grand return of history, but not for us.

just sounded right outta the book

[Anonymous No.12122644]

>>12122496
I definitely get your comparison and looking at the short sentences I used in that post i can see how the style would remind you of those writes, like palahnuik and Brett Easton Ellis.

I think that difference is an important one. honestly fight club being written in the 90s the whole revolution thing was already outdated. Boomer radicals in the 60s didn't understand that their opposition to the system was impossible to act out in the political sphere in any meaningful way, since their mere participation in politics required betrayals of radical politics which were fatal to the integrity of their movements. Most people past 1980 understood this paradox, and fight club seems to me to be weirdly anachronistic in how much it reifies this kind of revolutionary politics as having potential (even though it critiques it). I'm going to out myself as a pseud tho, because I've only ever seen the film, not sure if the book is more aware of this.

[Anonymous No.12122679]

>>12122469
Howso?

[Anonymous No.12122691]

>>12122644
The book and movie are two sides of the same coin. Equally well done in different respects. Palahniuk would agree if I'm not mistaken.

[Anonymous No.12122707]

>>12122691
Yeah I watched the film again recently expected to be super disappointed (because I used to be really into it when I was an edgy teenager) but I was really surprised by how good it was. Obviously excellent directing by Fincher, but it's also very funny, much funnier than I remember

[Anonymous No.12122728]

De Assis. author of Bras Cubas...
-mindy

[Anonymous No.12122747]

>>12122061
Osamu Dazai

[Anonymous No.12124082]

b

[Anonymous No.12124134]

>>12122061
Don't you you mean to say postmortemism?

[Anonymous No.12124732]

To me /ghostmodern/ evokes every abortive notion meant to repeal and replace modernism, it is the detritus of desiderata, the digital artifact, the Instagram filter of modernism.

[Anonymous No.12124783]

>>12122061
I read some pretty hot lesbian ghost stories, does that count?

[Anonymous No.12124824]

>>12122343

[Anonymous No.12124872]

>>12122069
ghostmodernism is the best how dare you

[Anonymous No.12124882]

>>12122343
>after that, i didnt read any further. that was a long time ago.
kek

[Anonymous No.12124889]

>>12122343
10/10

[Anonymous No.12125735]

*cough*

[Anonymous No.12125740]

>>12122082
>family
>not a spook

[Anonymous No.12125860]

>>12124134
Very nice!