/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.12113068]

Was I memed? I saw this book come up many times in right wing circles and iron pill charts but all it seems to be is evola being a Nietzche tsundere. I like the parts where he talks about the lake of aim for modern man but doesnt really give a solution. Does it get better or do I need to have read all obscure German philosphy to get anything out of it?

[Anonymous No.12113082]

Read Introduction to Magic. You need a solid background in mysticism and esoteric philosophy to make Evola click.

[Anonymous No.12113088]

>>12113068
If you're stuck on the lake of aim, better start paddling

[Anonymous No.12113095]

>>12113068
I enjoyed his more unknown material much more desu. Hermetic traditions, mystery of the grail, path of cinnabar, fascism viewed from the right, notes on the third reich, etc.. I think Ride the Tiger is a book many people buy due to memes and the cool title but end up not reading it or reading it and not getting much out of it.

[Anonymous No.12113101]

>>12113068
That's the last book you should read wtf.

[Anonymous No.12113110]

>>12113068
i would avoid evola

[Anonymous No.12113113]

>>12113068
Gotta start reading hieroglyphics to get it.

[Anonymous No.12113119]

>>12113068
Get a background in some heremeticism not really too hard he has a book, but there are easy ones.

[Anonymous No.12113127]

>>12113095
If you're actually reading Evola those aren't obscure hahaha Jesus Christ the ego in this place.

[Anonymous No.12113142]

>>12113127
stop disrespecting evola's legacy with your homosexual writing style.

[Anonymous No.12113340]

>2009 /lit/: Evola is reviled, harshly criticized, dismissed a pseud

>2018 /lit/: Some are still slow to adopt Evola, but most have accepted him as an integral part of this board's literary core (due mostly to reactionary politics)

[Anonymous No.12113511]

>>12113340
>reactionary politics
That's like, the worst thing about him.

[Anonymous No.12113708]

You're not going to understand anything he has to say until you read Revolt and Man Among the Ruins. I wouldn't even touch Ride the Tiger until you've read most of his other books because it is difficult to understand and it's not exactly crucial to his philosophy. Riding the tiger is just one path among many and it's not for everyone. You should be familiar with Nietzsche and Heidegger at least a little bit.

[Anonymous No.12113820]

Evola's books were the biggest waste of time to read for me. Out of all the shit the Fasci's had to circulate and chit chat about they could have picked a lot better writers but you can see the guys appeal to these people.

[Anonymous No.12113840]

>>12113820
you're a brainlet and spiritlet, it's ok

[Anonymous No.12113848]

Evola was not a true mystic. He was an Italian aristocrat who lamented the loss of his automatically-exalted position in society and decided that because he had a couple of spiritual visions caused by a lack of oxygen in his mountaineering years he was somehow part of some "traditional elite" that should lord over society and tell the peasants what to do.

Avoid him if you seek gnosis.

[Anonymous No.12113860]

>>12113840
As if Caesar-MetaTruth-Metatron actually has anything of substance to say. He's a fiction writer, admit it.

[Anonymous No.12113864]

But reeeeee he does give a solution, to await the overturning of the interregnum. That's what "ride the tiger" means reeeeee

[Anonymous No.12113865]

>>12113840
I can get more spitituality from fuckin Alan Watts or David A. Phillips, all applicable to reality too.

[Anonymous No.12113871]

>>12113865
>mfw an anonymous metaphysicslet made an appeal to "reality" near me

[Anonymous No.12113880]

>>12113848
>Avoid him if you seek gnosis.
What if I'm just reading Evoler for the sake of being based and redpilled?

[Anonymous No.12113896]

>>12113871
It's nice when they can marry up. I don't know how they aren't inextricably linked maybe Guenon knows?

[Anonymous No.12113908]

Do all traditionalist books already assume you believe in magic or are a LARPagan? Are there any beginner books or "iron pill" books that are applicable for people in the modern (no religious background) man?

[Anonymous No.12113917]

>>12113908
>cater to my degenerate mongrelized notions of spirituality and metaphysics daddy

no, there aren't

[Anonymous No.12113935]

>>12113908
Yeah, there's plenty of eugenics based ones that are more sucking Darwins dick than Pan's.

[Anonymous No.12113946]

>>12113708
He explains so well at the start of the book that it's not for everyone. Yet brainlets take it as a self-help guide.

[Anonymous No.12114056]

>>12113068
You seem more like a peterson type.

[Anonymous No.12114105]

>>12114056
Your probably right but I'm definitely more right than Peterson and I wanted some unapologetic traditionalism that wasn't so Christian. Being a modern american I don't have any connection to christianity or paganism. I guess I'm doomed to either go full nihilism or be a reluctant protestant.

[Anonymous No.12114125]

>>12114105
You are doomed to look for self-help drivel and erroneously concluding that someone who is ill suited for life in modernity would be perfectly suited for the perennial life.

[Anonymous No.12114239]

>>12113068
Imagine getting memed into reading one of the last books in the corpus of an incredibly complex author.

Did the chapter on Heidegger not indicate to you that this book is beyond you at present?

How can you hope to overcome the modern world if you don't even understand it?

[Anonymous No.12114731]

>>12114239
Beautiful image. I'm starting to read the second tier.

[Anonymous No.12114764]

>>12113068
he does offer a solution.
go read the bhagavad gita, upanishads, nietzsche, heidegger, revolt against the modern world, men among the ruins, path of cinnabar, then read ride the tiger again.
if you still don't get it, you might not be a man of that particular type.

[Anonymous No.12114766]

>>12114105
Guerilla Mindset by Mike Cernovitch

[Anonymous No.12114771]

>>12114764
He should read Plato, too.

[Anonymous No.12116087]

>>12113908
>believe
as opposed to 'knowing', right.
and yes, it's Evola.
seriously.

[Anonymous No.12116105]

>>12113068
>Was I memed?
>tsundere
why do you write like this?

[Anonymous No.12116176]

>>12113708
And Guenon, basically just read Guenon and that’s evola for you except he didn’t revert to a muzzie

[Anonymous No.12116226]

>>12116176
This is as stupid as saying read Schopenhauer and don't bother with Nietzsche.

[Anonymous No.12116672]

>>12116176
what utter tripe. you really haven't seen what it is that separates them, and Islam is but a small part of the equation.

[Anonymous No.12116715]

>>12113068
>doesnt really give a solution

It's less about practical steps than it is about proper orientation, and there only for differentiated individuals.

Think of it as a pointed response to Guenon--one that stresses the possibility to transcendence even in a fallen age. In fact, Evola goes even further and seems to suggest that certain features of the world around us can actually help the heroic man in his task. Here Evola has in mind a certain cosmic symmetry, whereas other Traditionalists tended to speak of an inversion.

I think Junger's Der Arbeiter should also be considered in conjunction with Ride the Tiger. Junger wrote about a different kind of man, one that would transcend the modern world through it.

[Anonymous No.12116780]

>>12116715
why not read what Evola had to say on Junger's Worker?
https://evolaasheis.wordpress.com/2016/04/14/the-worker-in-the-thought-of-ernst-junger-extract/

[Anonymous No.12116799]

>>12116780

Yes. I agree.
This would be a good thing to read. Junger's influence on Evola is often understated.

[Anonymous No.12116828]

>>12116799
Evola was actually quite critical of Junger and write an entire book - part of which is translated at the link provided, on same, as well as at least one essay/book review (on the Gordian Knot, should be up on Counter Currents).

[Anonymous No.12116834]

>>12116828
>Evola was actually quite critical of Junger

That being so, I think Junger prompted Evola to think about things in new ways, and so shaped his thinking. We need not agree on this point.

[Anonymous No.12116845]

>>12116834
We need not agree on anything, but I would expect you to at least have some sort of source for that. There are a number of studies in Italian on the subject as far as I am aware, but "influence" might be stretching things.

[Anonymous No.12116877]

>>12116845
>We need not agree on anything, but I would expect you to at least have some sort of source for that. There are a number of studies in Italian on the subject as far as I am aware, but "influence" might be stretching things.

Allow me to post a few excerpts from 'Ernst Jünger - A Portrait'. It might help demonstrate the affinity I have in mind.

[Anonymous No.12116881]

>>12116877

[Anonymous No.12116887]

>>12116881

[Anonymous No.12116893]

>>12116877
Thank you. But "affinity" does not mean "influence". But I'm not here to nit-pick. That excerpt is interesting because the link I posted examines how the Waldgang and the evolian differentiated man differ.

[Anonymous No.12118418]

Why is Magic optional by the Hermetic Tradition not? Why read Doctrine of Awakening before East & West? East & West references both Doctrine and the Yoga of Power.

[Anonymous No.12118424]

>>12118418
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[Anonymous No.12118816]

>>12118418
East and West is a collection of different articles, isn't it? So is the Intro to Magic for that matter.