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Is A Thousand Plateaus by Deleuze and Guattari literary?

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>> No.12109362

>>12109301
>I feel myself becoming a wolf
Yiff in hell.

>> No.12110634

>>12109301
I refuse to believe that there is any way a passage like this can be unpacked without basically saying a lot of it is meaningless noise. Where the fuck are the secondary books that explain the purpose of this fucking nonsense.

>> No.12110714

Why do philosocucks always describe the simplest things in the most obscure, long-winded ways? Is this insecurity?
You read a scientific paper, and everyone speaks in plain, human language, and these people actually discuss highly intellectual matters. Fuck, scientists even invented math so they could talk to each other through the barriers of language and roundabout pretensions.

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I like it! Got more?

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>>12110805
Dam that was good!
is that all of it?

>> No.12111738

>>12110714
Its just these postmodern faggots, they do it on purpose and admit to padding their shit with pure nonsense

>> No.12111747

>>12110714
That's what analytic philosophy is there for.

>> No.12111775

>>12109301
I refuse to believe people can read this shit and have it make sense.
I'm not a dumb guy, I have a decent IQ, go to a decent university, but this is completely incomprehensible to me. Meaningless words on a page.

>> No.12111793

>>12109301
ok this fucking slaps

>> No.12111814

>>12111775
>but this is completely incomprehensible to me. Meaningless words on a page.

based D&G, literally enacting becoming-imperceptible and deterritorialisation in the readers

>> No.12111840

>>12111775
makes sense to me. maybe you are too stuck in your own ways of thinking.

>> No.12111849

>>12110714
>everyone speaks in plain, human language

You know very well that this is just not true

>> No.12111861

>>12111840
this

just rhizomatize your mind, leave your tree and penetrate the earth

>> No.12111889

>>12111747
analytic philosophy is even more technical

a 15-year old without any philosophical orientation can understand parts of being and time

>> No.12111965

what'n he be saying is that be a self un attached but thats a dangerous cuz you a theatre now TAINTED. does he say to be in it or am i just an overly conscious fool what is the remedy

>> No.12112595

>>12111775
D&G requires quite an extensive pre-existing knowledge of continental philosophy to make sense of, but the question of one or several wolves is actually one of the more coherent ideas from ATP: It provides a model for the unconscious as a mass that is constituted by multiplicities, rather than the singular unity frequently taken as a given.

The wolf pack is an example of how peripheral figures are able to traverse the centre, and vice versa. The differences between individual elements are constantly at play and can move independently of one another (while still retaining a compounded identity), suggesting not an organisation of form but rather the vectors of intensity that characterise formlessness, limited only by the neurotic impasse which traps and codifies the flows of desire within an oedipal framework.

>> No.12112611

>>12110714
>You read a scientific paper, and everyone speaks in plain, human language

You must be new to science.

>mathematics to transcend the barriers of language

I would laugh if I weren't crying in despair right now

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>>12110714
>scientists invented math so they could talk to each other through the barriwra of language
????

>> No.12112735

>>12110714
goddamn this is good bait im stealing this

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>>12112692
Seeing then that Truth consisteth in the right ordering of names in our affirmations, a man that seeketh precise Truth, had need to remember what every name he uses stands for; and to place it accordingly; or els he will find himselfe entangled in words, as a bird in lime-twiggs; the more he struggles, the more belimed. And therefore in Geometry, (which is the onely Science that it hath pleased God hitherto to bestow on mankind,) men begin at settling the significations of their words; which settling of significations, they call Definitions; and place them in the beginning of their reckoning.

μηδείς άγεωμέτρητος είσίτω μον τήν στέγην

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>>12109301
>it's not that simple;
>mfw it's not that simple; will never become a meme

>> No.12112778

>>12110714
almost fell for it

>> No.12112799

>>12111889
lol imagining actually believing this

surface comprehension of a sentence in your mother tongue isn't equivalent to years of study you fucking mook

>> No.12112817

>>12112758
You see a sock, I see an anus, but only the schizo sees the sock as a field of stitched anuses.

>> No.12114050

>>12110714
Here's your (you) for the good bait.

>> No.12114067

>>12112799
Don't loose the lock for that gate you're keeping.

>> No.12114122

>>12109301
tl;dr functions of, say, a wolf is implicated in the characteristics of intensities and speeds, which is considered 'absolute' in Deleuzean philosophy (in forms of multiplicity and becoming-x). this is to say that representation of a "wolf" is diminished from any anthropomorphic concept, instead being similar to a thing, or something that is not included in the 'human'. In this sense, the event and process of things like the mouth, the anus, the wolf, etc. are brought about in the Similar, and are hence implied to the multiplicity of their existence.
(I've only read Anti-Oedipus and short fragments of A Thousand Plateaus, so I am no expert)

>> No.12115525

How do you guys feel about the concept of practicing buddhism to come closer to the experience of a body without organs? I'm thinking more of the sense of practicing as a layperson; you won't be able to disentangle yourself from the machines the support you, but I feel like learning to detach from the ideal of a machine while retaining the effect of interacting with it could lead to greater and more frequent states of intensity

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