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>Can't believe in religion anymore
>Flirted with communism and fascism, they don't do anything for me anymore
>Thought I was trans for a while and then it wore off
>Depression meds do an okay job of keeping me from killing myself
>No real relationships with anyone
>Feel myself sliding into alcoholism
Just the little that I have read of nietschze really resonated with me. I'm wondering wear to start from from a self help angle. Im pretty well read and not afraid to tackle the hard stuff. Thanks in advance for any responses

>> No.12109179

Try Kant (Groundwork for the Metaphysic of Morals) and Kierkegaard (Fear and Trembling, Sickness unto Death) first.

>> No.12109184

>>12109162
>>12109179
ecce homo really appealed to me and it and fun to read.

>> No.12109190

>>12109184
>ecchi homo
Fuggin gay

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>>12109162
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5y3a3vSTgPI&t=34s

Just listen to this and you'll be fine.

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Best neetz lectures

https://youtu.be/L0c5a6GB4jY

>> No.12109887

>>12109263
He sounds like a cross between Wallace Shawn and Winnie the Pooh.

>> No.12109895

>>12109162
>Thought I was trans for a while and then it wore off
explain

>> No.12110313

>>12109162
Remember the scene in "Fight Club," where Jack the Narrator is first sitting in the bar with Tyler Durden telling him about how his apartment was destroyed, and Tyler launches into his speech about modern consumerism being a cheap substitute for real living, then at the end kind of paper tigers and says, "then again, i could be wrong, maybe what happened is a horrible tragedy." That's what reading Nietzsche is like.

>> No.12110373

>>12109162
Embarrassing stuff Tbh.

>> No.12110385

Read Ecce homo and Genealogy of moral first. Then you can choose what you prefer to read among the bibliography.

>> No.12110693

>>12109895
It turned out to be OCD

>> No.12110698

>>12109162
Seems like you are just an easily influenced person without any real thoughts or personality of your own. Might wanna look into that

>> No.12110717

I started with Beyond Good and Evil, which was the first philosophical book, then moved on with Zarathustra.

It's a bad order but who cares. Most people think he is a nihilist while he is very life-affirming. But his vision is probably impossible to put in practice.

>> No.12110735

>>12109162
Chronologically, as you would with any other author.

>> No.12110773

>>12109179
This. Kant does a good job of taking you outside of reason alone, and helps you understand the world through practical morals.

>> No.12112696

I'd start out with getting a basic understanding of Kant and Schopenhauer, it doesn't need to be incredibly in-depth, but it will help you get a picture of the tradition Nietzsche is coming from. From there, I think the Gay Science is a good starting point for getting an idea of where Nietzsche's thoughts would eventually go.

>> No.12112716

>>12109162
you dont need nietzsche, you need less ego. read the easterns or convert to islam

>> No.12112717

>>12112696
Oh, that reminds me, if you want to take in a couple of prominent influences of Nietzsche, I'd suggest hunting down the fragments of Heraclitus' work and La Rochefoucauld's Maxims.

>> No.12113036

>>12109162
You don't start with mustache man, mustache man starts with you.

>> No.12113053

>>12109162
A hopeless romantic. Don't waste your time.

>> No.12113067

>>12109162

Start with (Philosophy in the Age of) The Greeks, and read absolutely everything else he's read in chronological order. Unironically what I'm in the middle of doing right now, just finished Human All Too Human and about to start The Dawn...

>> No.12113122

>>12109162
Read Beyond Good and Evil and then read On the Genealogy of Morals. Both of these will help you understand why he is so central to understanding the failures of modernity.

>> No.12113976

>>12110373
I know, believe me, that's why I'm posting anonymously

>> No.12114001

Reading will only tire you out. There's too many readers here. Go for a long walk and see if you can catch a train to escape from whatever is around you. Good luck.

>> No.12114002

>>12109162
it’s dangerous to read Nietzsche if you haven’t read the philosophers who came before and were his equals/betters
Socrates for one

>> No.12114032

>>12109162
Join ANARCHO-REACTIONARY GANG

>> No.12114093

>>12109162
Carl Jung, Max Weber, Heidegger.

Ted Kaczynski is unironically a prominent modern continuation of Nietzschean thought even though I don't think he ever read him.