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It's all over for the male writer...

https://quillette.com/2018/11/15/a-glimpse-into-the-ideological-monoculture-of-literary-new-york/

>> No.12100907

>>12100891
>the whole article is nothing but shilling for this guys book
No thanks.

>> No.12100967

http://www.returnofkings.com/87477/how-new-york-killed-male-literature

Same article, more or less

I guess you have to self publish and hope Amazon doesn't ban you

>> No.12100993

>An offer was forthcoming, he said. He just needed to get his boss to sign off on it — “a formality,” apparently. But the offer never came. Instead, the editor forwarded me the email his boss had provided: “We’re not taking on unknown white guys this year.”
Dats raciss

>> No.12101005
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>>12100993

>> No.12101096

>>12100907
I mean, the guy is clearly butthurt and trying to advertise his book but the monoculture probably does exist.

It's everywhere now. Comics. Fiction magazines. Tabletop games. Video games. Any literary scene. Universities. Governments. Corporations.

I seriously don't understand when some people don't think it is a problem, or try to minimize it. It is unequivocally the dominant ideology of our time, running rampant in every inch of intellectual and social life it can claim, helping to divide and rule us, stultifying and humiliating white males at every opportunity.

>> No.12101123

>>12101096
Eventually it will collapse under the weight of its own contradictions.

>> No.12101167

Tl;dr America is a Communist country. >>12100967 basically describes how America's version of Socialist Realism is enforced, informally of course. It would be tyrannical to actually have rules about what form literature must take, we'll just stack the editorial boards of every literary curator with left-wing activists to ensure conformity to the informal party line.

>> No.12101232

Lmaoing @ ur life
t. Third worlder living in a macho society

>> No.12101240

>>12101123
Nah, eventually it will give way to Islam.

>> No.12101254

>>12101123
I used to think this but it seems to be getting worse. People can publicly say there’s no such thing as gender while simultaneously openly hating white men with a straight face.

>> No.12101266

Literature has a place for you as a schizophrenic HIV+ transsexual chinese-latino stim-addicted LA hooker with implanted mirrorshades and a bad attitude. Blitzed on a polydrug mix of K-nova, synthetic serotonin, and female orgasm analogs, you have just iced three Turing cops with a highly cinematic 9mm automatic.

>> No.12101274

>>12101254
It's just an informal state religion, it won't collapse unless the state decides to replace it with a new one. Even if it's replaced with "Islam" as >>12101240 suggests it will be a nice and tolerant Islam that will be amenable to consumerism, the gender spectrum, etc.

>> No.12101281

>>12100891
So women and minorities can continue writing fiction and self-help nonsense etc

white males and some fringe feminists are all drifting towards critical theory of accelerationism and cyberinformation

>> No.12101286

>>12101274
Islam is exempt from judgement by the left. It's going to be Sharia law as soon as it reaches critical mass.

>> No.12101298

>>12101274
I agree with you. The future is a strange place for us to go into. It’s hard not to worry when I live in a world when both my aging parents and the literal communist neighbor I have both describe themselves as open and ready for violence, and i’m sure at the least one party owns serious weapons.

If anything capitalism will save us as you’re right, it’s all really downstream from consumerism which can temper and absorb anything apparently, even activism.

>> No.12101323

>>12101286
For now it is, because Muslims can be used as a pressure group by Progressives. If it reaches a critical mass, or can be found socially useful for promoting Progressivism it'll be co-opted and brought into alignment with Progressive ends.

>>12101298
Why will capitalism save us when capitalists promote Progressivism? The US founders were the woke capitalists of their day. Merchants have always been in an uneasy alliance with Progressives because they can be used as clients to destroy intermediary institutions between the State and the general population - for profit, in the case of merchants, and for equality, in the case of Progressives.

>consumerism which can temper and absorb anything apparently, even activism.
Grassroots activism isn't real. Who is providing the finances? Check the finances of activist groups and you'll find the Ford Foundation, Open Society Foundation, Rockefeller Foundation, and so on providing the financial support.

>> No.12101343

>>12101323
>For now it is, because Muslims can be used as a pressure group by Progressives. If it reaches a critical mass, or can be found socially useful for promoting Progressivism it'll be co-opted and brought into alignment with Progressive ends.
I think Houellebecq was the dude who said that liberalism will ultimately turn to a fascist ideology to enforce it's dogma and I think that ideology will be Islam
Wasn't there some big name conversion people were talking about like a month ago

>> No.12101347

>>12101298
Capitalism will not save us as long as those in power still have all the money

https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/pope-din-rich-drown-cries-poor-59276074?cid=clicksource_76_4_article%20roll_articleroll_hed

>> No.12101355

>>12101343
I don't see Islam being adopted unless it becomes necessary to pacify the growing Muslim population and I doubt it'll take a form that most Muslim authorities in Muslim countries would consider to be Islam. I wouldn't say that Islam is a fascist ideology, either.

>> No.12101357

Capitalism is sentient
And don't care about your feelings

>> No.12101358
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12101358

I'll just publish under the pseudonym of a Black Woman

>> No.12101367

>>12101347
Who gives a fuck about what the Pope says?

>> No.12101369

>>12101123
Fat chance. It's self perpetuating. The only thing that will kill it is if a progressive government comes into power and promptly fucks everything up.

>> No.12101375

>>12101367
1.25 billion~

>> No.12101377

>>12101323
Exactly. That was my point that much of the supposed on the ground violence is simply an affectation of corporatists and ideological journalism etc etc

I don’t know if I buy the idea that society will fall apart on itself and fringe ideologies will take over. as far as capitalism being a good or bad thing; that’s completely another topic. I’m more concerned about living in a world that’s defined by hardline economic dogma or ideas or being a victim of street violence. I think capitalist promote progressivism superficially. That’s what I meant about it absorbing the more radical notions as it’s hard to argue you’re feminism is radical when Beyoncé is singing at the Super Bowl.

>> No.12101384

>>12101355
I can see it being Islam. These people want to attach themselves to anything that could be seen as oppressed.

>> No.12101389

>>12101355
A population with IQ below 90 can't support democracy.

>> No.12101395

>>12101389
That explains trump lol

>> No.12101396

>>12100891
Annoying that he's shilling for his own book which sounds boring and unoriginal but he's right about literary monoculture. This has been the case since the 90s it's just now much more in the open with the politicization of everything in American cultural discourse. Just learn another language anons and follow another culture's art/lit scene because ours is too far gone down the uninspired path of ideology.

>> No.12101397

>>12101347
So what if they have money? I’m ok living inside an entire neighborhood corporately sponsored and decorated to look like a McDonalds as long as I don’t have to live in a world where the common political discourse is based in radical Marxism, identity politics, white nationalism, and extremism of all stripes. Basically throw me into the ball pit so I don’t have to listen to faggots anymore.

>> No.12101412

>>12101397
BEHOLD THE LAST MAN

>> No.12101418

>>12101377
>I think capitalist promote progressivism superficially. That’s what I meant about it absorbing the more radical notions as it’s hard to argue you’re feminism is radical when Beyoncé is singing at the Super Bowl.
We are oppressed, and if you say otherwise, we will destroy you. Bigot.
>I think capitalist promote progressivism superficially.
At any given time they might promote something cynically to expand their power, but the next generation of activists tend to be true believers.

>’m more concerned about living in a world that’s defined by hardline economic dogma or ideas or being a victim of street violence.
These actually go hand in hand with one another. The Progressive coalition typically doesn't count the security forces among its allies. How should power be consolidated in this scenario? Answer: Organized crime. Latin America is instructive.

>>12101389
Put a bunch of Brits on the world's best plot of land, halfway across the world from any major conflicts, and they couldn't support it for 250 years without running themselves nearly into the ground. It's not a workable system and ended up just becoming Anglocommunism.

>> No.12101419

>>12101232
>macho
*gay

>> No.12101421

When the inevitable attack comes on American soil from Islam again the left will go silent on Islam like they had to post 9/11. Just give it time.

>> No.12101425

>>12101395
Funny you say that because the world IQ has been declining due to the third world having more and more kids that they can't take care of, coupled with Hispanics having more and more children who are bestowed a US citizenship at birth. Trump was a reaction by white people who noticed this trend, along with the dumber ones in the Rust Belt who want to say nice things but don't live in the Sun Belt and never have to deal with the reality of living as a minority among Hispanics and Black people.

t. white dude in Miami

>> No.12101434

Over 80% of publishing is white.

1 non-white person on the NYT best seller list this week.

This guy's work is shit-tier (oneofus oneofus)

>> No.12101436

>>12101421
There's no need for an attack if you're fighting what has become a minority.

>> No.12101438

>>12101434
*Jewish

>> No.12101441

>>12101434
They're probably of the Tribe, so to speak.

>> No.12101459

>>12101421
>implying the attack won't come from China

Islamic terrorism is old hat and only serves as a distraction

>> No.12101474

>>12101005
Is this kind of shit real in murrica?

>> No.12101475

>>12101418
Not sure what part of my post would suggest I’m a bigot of any kind? I feel like you’re trolling but if you can expand on that I’m listening. It looks like we do agree on the superficial nature of corporately sponsored radicalism. But you actually believe that there’s something special about “this generation” of political believers. What’s that exactly? Literally all that’s changed are the economic opportunities we have. I’d agree people 35 and under have been fueled by capitalism. But literally every radical movement in every country has floundered out at some point, mostly as a consequence of goodies and opportunity. The hippies turned to hippies. Gen X is a mixed bag getting fucked but many of them rode the dotcom era into wealth and comfort. You’re right, they probably WILL change the message coming out of the corporate hr meeting rooms at some point. Don’t feel personally attacked that i’m Suggesting that your people are following pop culture only because many are. Most of the “radicals”’I know ended up voting for Hillary so that shatters your mythos. I denounce violence on all fronts and I bet you’re the one that openly talks about how toxic and bad “jocks” are.

KYS faggot, when your girlfriend starts wearing power suits in her mid level management job and leaves your ass for a semi-balding co-worker think back to this moment.

>> No.12101485

>>12101474
You can search the names of the articles.

>> No.12101499

>>12101436
>implying radical Islam is smart enough to care and not chimp out

Wew

>> No.12101507

>>12101475
>Not sure what part of my post would suggest I’m a bigot of any kind? I feel like you’re trolling but if you can expand on that I’m listening.
I was being sarcastic lad, pointing out the obvious silliness of claiming to be oppressed from the seat of the most powerful state apparatus yet known to mankind.

>But you actually believe that there’s something special about “this generation” of political believers.
It's not about "this generation". The pattern is this:
>Progressive financial elite fund activists desire to reorganize/destroy some aspect of society for their own ends
>Since they operate under liberal ideas, obviously, "public opinion" must be roused to support it so that it can be truly Democratic.
>"Private" funds are gathered from "private" foundations and funneled to activists to mobilize people towards the desired goal.
>The motivation of the financiers of said activism is typically cynical power seeking. However, 50 years or so in the future, their seats will be held by the activists they were funneling money to.

>> No.12101533

>>12101425
lol the Floridian thinks he can think.

>> No.12101543

>>12101507
I’m not arguing that those people won’t still be around and won’t be a problem, but this pattern has been going on for a looonnng time. The data is out, people become more right wing as they age and learn more. That’s my whole point, that it’s a consequence of capitalism and the stability it provides for US citizens ( and basically no others ) that society isn’t going to change much. In fact this very conversation is somewhat of a course correction in this cultural milieu. The alt-right and trump are a failed version of this but they’re just part of a larger coalition to destroy the Overton window and bring a sense of normalcy to people. Even fucking Joe Rogan ( lol ) is a totem for this. I’m not sure what will happen but history doesn’t look good for the future of commies in America. Especially now that blacks and Latinos are becoming more woke to right wing ideology.

>> No.12101562

>>12100891
i really like that painting

>> No.12101568

>>12101266
stealing this

>> No.12101591

>>12101096
Absolutely NEETpilled

>> No.12101618

>>12101533
You laugh, but take my state as a warning of what will come. We're at that halfway point between the US and Latin America/the Caribbean, and we're becoming more like the later with each passing day.

>> No.12101763

>>12100891
The dude's writing is ass, 99% of literature is ass, and this person isn't even trying. Since most people are plebians who only care about commoditized literature there is little reason to care about individuals who are playing the market and fall on the wrong end, injustice or otherwise.

You people are really telling me that the following is good writing?

"It was a long time ago in this country that we tore God from his pedestal, and replaced him not with Satan and his sword, but with a robot capable of teaching itself new skills, completing tasks perfectly and seamlessly, without ever getting tired or complaining"

People need higher standards, and to understand that market literature should be driven by the whims of the market. It's idiotic to care about a meaningless writer's meaningless book when it doesn't even try to talk about anything meaningful.

>> No.12101792

>>12101358
unironically this.

>> No.12101793

>>12101562
Do you know its title, anon? And/or the artist?

>> No.12102065

>>12101562
>>12101793
the suicide by Monet

>> No.12102077

>>12101763
My point was less about his shitty writing and more about the publishing world...

>> No.12102649

>>12102065
Thanks a lot, anon!

>> No.12102938

>>12101005
living in Canada, pics like this make me grateful I come from osamaland, just so i don't have to deal with this terrifying bullshit you natives have to put up with.
>tfw realize I've gotten away with saying offensive shit and making sexist and racist jokes at university just because of my name and inherent foreignness
sorry bros. i don't know what to say :(

>> No.12102958

>>12102938
Keep up the good work. If you can force people into mental gymnastics to justify their apologism, maybe there's a chance they'll sober up.

>> No.12103254

>>12101323
>If it reaches a critical mass, or can be found socially useful for promoting Progressivism it'll be co-opted and brought into alignment with Progressive ends.
I'm in the UK and if anything the opposite is happening, Muslims have co-opted the Labour party and the left is adopting anti-Semitic beliefs to appease Muslim voters, it's quite funny to see.

>> No.12103317

>>12103254
I'll believe it when I see it, but I expect to get Moderate Islam (tm) in Britain when it's all said and done.

>> No.12103323

>>12101096

>My efforts to play contrarian did not meet with success—especially when I suggested that encouraging the segregation of Muslim women might be seen in a very different light if the policy had been championed by, say, Mike Pence or Donald Trump. When I cut to the chase and asked why no one at the table seemed to feel aggrieved for women suffering under Islamic oppression, voices were raised and, well, I may or may not have been asked to leave. There were other experiences like this, and I learned to hold my tongue.

>An offer was forthcoming, he said. He just needed to get his boss to sign off on it — “a formality,” apparently. But the offer never came. Instead, the editor forwarded me the email his boss had provided: “We’re not taking on unknown white guys this year.”

Might keep his book on my radar...

>> No.12103338

>>12103323
I wouldn't, anyone who submits articles to Quillette is a pseud.

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>>12101167
>Socialist Realism
Stop... and read the classical work of Marxist-Leninist aesthetics "The Crisis of Ugliness: From Cubism to Pop-Art"

http://sci-hub (dot) tw/10.1163/9789004366558

>> No.12103359

>>12103353
Dude, it was just a metaphor for "literature that promotes the State ideology as determined by the Party". Actual Socialist Realism would be a big improvement over what we have now.

>> No.12103400

>>12101763
>"It was a long time ago in this country that we tore God from his pedestal, and replaced him not with Satan and his sword, but with a robot capable of teaching itself new skills, completing tasks perfectly and seamlessly, without ever getting tired or complaining"

It could have been worse desu, people have to start somewhere but then realize the shit they have vomited before publishing and going ahead putting their name to shame

>> No.12103550

>>12101167

The domination is neoliberal not socialist or communist or really left wing in any way. It's much worst than an out and out position like a communist, a fascist, etc. Neoliberalism is the elevation of procedures to the level of ideals. It's why books are diluted with milk until they offend nobody, except the people who have real commitments, and say nothing.

What we have now is a bland kind of realism where anything too realistic has to be removed.

>> No.12103568

>>12103317
I thought that Islam becoming the dominant religion in the West in 2-3 decades was obvious to anyone with half a brain.

>> No.12103579

>>12103568
I don't see it happening in the whole West. Mostly Britain, really. Maybe Sweden.

>> No.12103586

>>12100891
>>12100967
Seriously, fuck new york.

>> No.12103601

>written by matt binder

HOLY SHIT. This guy not two years ago was one of the most raging SJWs in the NYC scene. lmfao the left wing is shedding dudes constantly. It's honestly fucking hilarious.

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>>12100891
It's because of jews, creating a monoculture that's good for jews and excluding/attacking anyone who goes against jewish interests like immigration, feminism, pro-minority bullshit, and anti-white stuff generally. How people still don't realize this is almost as surprising as it is that an article by a goy questioning such a platform was able to sneak into Quillette, which is of course ALSO owned by a jew.

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>caring about "community"
imagine being this spooked desu

>> No.12103682

This is simply because the world is trying to update certain values, perspectives, beliefs that are uncomfortable to question due to the proximity of those subjects to certain evils.
Because the author is writing on such a tumultuous subject, this reaction is expected. It wasn't simply "because male", its just that the certain segments of the left from about center-left to far-left don't yet understand these views that are becoming more ubiquitous lately.
This is because misunderstood belief, not muh gender.

>> No.12103687

>>12100891
>implying male writers haven't been killing themselves for centuries

>> No.12103707

>>12103629
Here we go

>> No.12103717

>>12100891

I am currently in fucking shock /lit/. I just spent the last few hours crying and drinking a large bottle of vodka in bed in the dark. I am so fucking angry and emotional right now I almost have no words. You anons know the dating app Bumble right? It's like Tinder except only women can initiate conversations with their matches? Ok well I made a profile and have been using it for the past 2 weeksI am not a slob. I have been told I have a cute face and usually in "rate" threads I get 7-8/10, I am 25 years old and pretty wealthy because I have a good job making 50k. Only thing is I am short. Like really short. 5'5. I matched with this girl on Bumble. Legitimately 10/10 and her network thing said she was in law school at the same university that I go to. Anyway, we talked for like 12 hours. She was the coolest, smartest, most gorgeous girl I've probably ever seen. We talked about films, music, art, literature, food, future goals, life in general, philosophy...she was breath taking physically and intellectually. To the plebs on here who say there is no such thing as an intelligent beautiful woman you're so fucking wrong. After talk for so long she asked me how tall I was.I took a moment to respond. Then actually opened her bio again and it said "I can reach the top self, can you?" Panic ensued obviously..I recognize my own shortcomings... I considered lying and saying I was 5'8 or something but if we met in real life she would obviously know I was bullshitting and I would come off as insecure so I was truthful. I told her "5'5." No weird jokes or creepy messages trying to validate myself I just sent the numbers. 2 minutes later she unmatched me. No "oh I'm sorry I really like tall guys I think you're a great person though!", no sympathy, no good luck wishes just fucking unmatched me even after we connected SO WELL. I fucking hate women so much, I hate myself I wish I was dead and I hate my mom and dad so much but my mother especially for having kids with a guy who is fucking 5'3. I should have been female life is not fucking fair I hate myself so much FUCK SOCIETY god dammit FUCK it's time to read Schopenhauer's essay on suicide

>> No.12103718

>>12103682
No, it's because an entrenched minority is pushing an updated slave religion on whites because those values are good for their tribe.

>> No.12103735

>>12103682
Actually we probably shouldn't even be calling these people 'certain leftists' come to think of it. Fucking, I don't believe in hypocritical extremists or affirmative action, but I do believe in equality and a welfare state.

A real egalitarian isn't SJW. God I hate this media invented division.

>> No.12103751

>>12103718
>slave religion
Care to expand on this Mr. /pol/?

>> No.12103766

>>12103751
I have never posted on pol. Read your Nietzsche. What you're referring to as leftist values are jewish values being projected onto non-jews by the 94% jewish-owned msm, and an updated and secular version of Christianity.

>> No.12103771

>>12103550
Socialism is when you make black superheroes.

>> No.12103778

>>12101323
You're missing the other major influence in Islam: Gulf oil money and elites. Soon as they realize in 20-30 years that they can jettison western progressives and woke capital as cat's paws for their agenda, it'll all be over in places. Especially Britain and France (two nuclear countries). All they have to do at that point is convince pussy-chasing leftists that they can have multiple wives in the religion of peace, and convince everyone that got screwed over by progressives that they have a place at the table if they convert, and you'll see the most glorious, actually diverse, parade of dudes in black ski masks riding Toyotas into Oxbridge or the BBC studios going full Khmer Rouge on anyone with non-natural hair colors or black framed glasses.

>> No.12103782

>>12103629
Except it has nothing to do with Jews (well, it's done by jews but "jews" aren't the issue), it's just capitalism. Allow for a very small window of discussion and act like that window is radical to make sure real change seems unimaginable.

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>>12101358
>>12101792

>> No.12103798

>>12103782
No, the problem is jews, and blaming "capitalism" - and abstract, nonliving entity - makes you look absolutely retarded. Capitalism behaves however the people in charge tell it to behave, and jews are in charge, so capitalism promotes the jews' globalist anti-white agenda.

>> No.12103800

>>12100891
>he doesn't write under a female Muslim pseudonym
You guys will never make it.

>> No.12103811

>>12103798
The problem isn't so much as it is Jews as its Jews have co-opted capitalism to serve the interests of the Tribe.

>> No.12103815

>>12103778
Do Gulf elites take Islam that seriously beyond using it as a tool to stay in power?

>> No.12103821

>>12103800
>he doesn't write under an amorphous asexual blob from glorgon-5 pseudonym

>> No.12103842

>>12103717
>FUCK SOCIETY
Life is alot worse than not mating dude trust me. At least you have a job and will be able to care for your parents in old age.

>> No.12103855

>>12103811
No, the problem is and always has been jews. Responsible capitalism administered by a white elite with a sense of stewardship and national/regional/racial pride would not look like the jewish capitalism of today, with infinity brown peasants pouring in, unaesthetic everything, and work to the death, race to the bottom economics.

People are different, and systems and institutions will produce different results based on who is in charge. Capitalism is neither here nor there, it is merely a tool.

>> No.12103858

>>12103811
Sure is a whole lot of subsidizing entire industries for 'capitalism'... Shouldn't they collapse under capitalism?

>> No.12103870

>>12103815
>Gulf elites
These people are in way shape or form muslims. They're basically consumer capital westerners who dress different. Real muslims can be found in Iran, Chechnya, Turkey and the levant

>> No.12103872

>>12103855
Well, we know that's not true because most of the elites are white and yet they're still fucking us over.

>> No.12103888

>>12103872
>most of the elites
They aren't white, they're jews. Jews are running every major western institution from the media to Hollywood to banks to government lobbying to NGOs to Wall Street to the tech industries censoring they're opponents.

The problem is jews.

>> No.12103907

>>12101323
I wish you were right cause I'm broke no matter who I bitch at for what reason

>> No.12103919

>>12103717
fucking lmao

I'm 6'5.5

>> No.12103958

>>12101396
>Just learn another language anons and follow another culture's art/lit scene because ours is too far gone down the uninspired path of ideology.
As if all this politicization around progressivism hasn't been corrupting other cultures around the world as well.

>> No.12103961

>>12103766
>i'm not /pol/
>go on a schyzophrenic rambling

Pretty sure Nietzsche disliked anti-semite too. Anyway your pount is wrong and you provide no proofs.

>> No.12103968

>>12103717
Women are merciless when it comes to short guys, I really feel for you. I'm 6'1" and I'm considered just "average." It's kind of ironic considering how insecure women are about their own bodies. Stacey if you're reading this you need to cut down on the carbs, it's starting to show. And no, that haircut does not look good, your friends are lying to you.

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>>12103717
And I thought I was a manlet at 5'9, at least I never got rejected for my height

Sorry to hear that bro, you sound utterly devastated. You need to look for shorter girls, dont give up

>> No.12103992

>>12103985
>you need to find shorter girls
Or don't find girls at all, develop and please yourself.

>> No.12103997

>>12103968
>I'm 6'1" and I'm considered just "average."
I dont think anyone ever actually told you that you're average, and that's your perception. 6'1 is like 182cm, thats way above average in North America and almost everywhere else

>> No.12104002

>>12103717
Why would you even want a girl who cares that much about height? I'm 6'3" so I've never been rejected over my height, but whenever a girl on a dating app mentions anything about preferring tall guys I immediately lose interest. I can understand having preferences for certain physical traits but when it's such a priority you have to put it in your profile or promptly mention it in conversation then I just think you're a shallow cunt.

Your dad's short and he found a woman. You can do the same.

>> No.12104014

>>12103992
>Or don't find girls at all, develop and please yourself.

That would be a lonely existence, not for everyone

>> No.12104022

>>12103717
To be fair to the girl, if shes on the taller side it would look like a joke if she was a few inches taller than you (without heels). I understand where she is coming from but still feel sorry for you.

>> No.12105251

>>12103717
I'm 6ft, have a great job, etc and women still flake on me constantly. They just use different excuses. I recommend not investing much time texting until you have met in person at least once. Don't trade your attention for nothing.

>> No.12105268

>>12103550
>What we have now is a bland kind of realism where anything too realistic has to be removed.

fuck dude, you said it

>> No.12105282
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>women oppression under Islam
Why would anyone care?
This is either a neocon or a missionary issue.
Wanting to rescue women from Islam used to be a progressive/ feminist position before the postmodern era. I feel like anyone who raise this subject is a hypocrite.

>> No.12105294

>>12100891

Go back to /pol/

>> No.12105423

At that point I wouldn't even mind converting if it guarantees me security and the possibly to thrive.

>> No.12105466

>People still trying to use muh mooselimbs on progressives about muh womens

These people are extremely far gone why do they think its ever going to work? Muslims are based anyway

>> No.12105472

>>12105466
It's not liberals or people generally, it's jews, who, like mudslimes, are semites as well. Jews let Muslims into Spain too back in the day and fought with them against the Spanish.

>> No.12105474

>>12103717
>He still hasnt learned

>> No.12105477

>>12100891
'ate men
'ate old men
'ate whoyte men
'ate old, whoyte men
love the eu
love the guardian
love kalergi plan
simple as

>> No.12105511

TOASTING IN EPIC BREAD

>> No.12105515

resource depletion will fix everything

>> No.12105531

>>12103717
Your dad got laid somehow

>> No.12105533

>>12103717
She was a thot. Fuck that bitch. You'll find a better one Anon.

>> No.12105579

>>12105477
based

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>>12102938
>>12102958
Im still holding out hope that Canada will continue to be the only nation where multiculturalism has worked out relatively well (all things considered).
Our immigration isn't like the mass immigration Europe has done (yet), and our cultural imperialist neighbours to the south haven't started WWIII with a 2nd civil war (yet).

>> No.12105821

>>12105789
imagine being this deluded
Wake up and smell the roses, Canadians are already displaced by squat brown mongoloids and your culture is dead in the crib. Canada is barely 50% white and the rate of change is still becoming less favourable

>> No.12105841

>>12105821
>canada is barely white
Only yanks think this because canadians burned the white house down, you are literally 46 percent "white", canada is not only whiter, but a proof multiculti can almost work.

>> No.12105859

>>12105841
>implying I'm a yank
>implying my country is not 90%+ white
>implying multiculti can "almost work" (lmao)
I don't hold it against you, I wouldn't want to admit it either. Walk down main street in Toronto some time, and reflect on the joyous wonders of multicultural success, knowing that it will inevitably trickle into whatever nativist strongholds remain and enrich them profusely

>> No.12105878

>>12100891
>>12100967
Who the fuck cares about New York?

Just sink that shithole into the sea.

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>>12103792
Based pseudo-slope.

Besides, what's the problem with "identifying as Chinese" in this woke age? The guy might be a genuine transchink.

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>>12103992
>please yourself
You do a lot of this, amirite?

>> No.12105996

>>12103717
I'm 6'4. I never thought my height was that much of a big deal until recently. I was competing for an attractive Columbian girl from a rich(ish) family with an Italian chad. Thought I had no chance so decided to cut ties before sinking in the friendzone.

He was so pissed off when she ended up hooking up with me that he even sent her messages about it. She said to me once while we were making out simply 'I like tall guys'.

Women are superficial af. There's nothing you can do about it. Just make sure you don't become a nice guy and start falling over yourself to help out women who will never show you bobs and vagene.

>> No.12106021

>>12105996
This. I'm 6'3" and have accidentally cockblocked my shorter friends by simply being around them while they were talking to a girl they were in to. What's even worse is that I'm socially awkward and can't pick up on hints, so its not like I do anything with my height.

>> No.12106034

just use pen names as Destiny Child, Harmony Bougie, and Chrisma Al-alweed. Men will return as rightful authors, pretending to be muslim women.

>> No.12106058

>>12101763
This. Their group masturbatory postmodern parties mean nothing to the world, and they will keep trying to do something in an effort to mean something, usually while destroying anything good that stands in their way.

>> No.12106093

>>>4chan
Fuck off with your victim complex

>> No.12106101

>>12101005
The "It's OK to be white" is literally being organized by neo nazis. Of course it's a hate message

>> No.12106135

>>12106101
You know, just because a group you generally disagree with expresses an idea doesn't mean you have to be opposed to it by principle. I don't care if it was nazis or anyone else; it is okay to be white. Saying otherwise is plain racism.

>> No.12106163

>>12106101
So why are you so dead set on proving Nazis correct?

>> No.12106191

>>12106034
I call dibs on "Apu Al-Jibra"

>> No.12106200

>>12106101
>umm sweaty its a dog whistle

What exactly is wrong with the message though?

>> No.12106309

>>12103717
She may have been intelligent, but if she drops you like that she's obviously as shallow as any bimbo. What'd you expect from an app that gives the female users a catalogue of men to choose from? Find an actually nice girl, preferably not online or at least on a more serious website or matching service.

>> No.12106318

>>12106200
>>12106101
I'm torn on the phrase and its intentions. While I think the alt-right was completely foolish to bastardize such a harmless phrase, I also feel that the mainstream media would have attached the belief that it's okay to be white to white nationalists.

>> No.12106364

>>12106200
There is nothing wrong with being white, the phrase is fine. People are simply pointing out that white supremacists made it. /pol/ thought they were the smartest people in the world with this meme, they'd just place the signs everywhere and watch the libs lose their minds about people saying it's okay to be white then /pol/ could oh so intelligently claim that liberals think it's not okay to be white. However, the thing is it's very easy to look online and see who's behind it. Read past the headline of any of the few articles about this garbage and you'll see they're mainly talking about the fact that white supremacists organized it rather than the actual substance of the flyers.