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So Kaczynskis ideal could never be achieved in the face of the inevitable?

>> No.12094834

I aint even gonna bother replying to this shit, excavate old ted threads in the archive where I've replied about a hundred times why we will never "end up in the same spot" as we are today

>> No.12094841

German Sterligov explains perfectly why it's impossible, but unfortunately the english subbed videos of his have been taken off youtube for some obscure reason.

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Believing we have any say or control over the course of civilization likely originates in the primal fear of death, it is equally ridiculous.

>> No.12094852

>>12094846
this is exactly what kaczynski says

>> No.12094877

I just finished reading his manifesto and a few of his select letters.

It's certainly possible if resource depletion and total war occurs, that the world will be in a material condition that is unable to sustain industrial civilization. Once fossil fuels and coal are depleted, and the global economy is shattered, the world could possibly be consumed in a resource conflict, leading to the disintegration of society.

After the conflict, and the severe reduction in population, another industrial revolution may be forever unable to occur as the resources necessary to kickstart industrial society have already been consumed, leaving a quantity insufficient to fuel mass production. This would most likely result in a return to a form of feudalism in some areas, and orientalist style despotic empires in others. Once again technology in most parts of the world would be limited to locally produced commodities, with manufactures only occurring in what little cities can be sustained, similar to how the world was before the 18th century.

There will still be SOME remnants of modern technology in this scenario, but only what can be sustained and produced by the material conditions. Computers, the internet and most electronics will be forever gone. Firearms, explosives and crude rocketry will most likely remain.

>> No.12096119

>>12094877
keep goin on

>> No.12096136

bump

>> No.12096201

>>12094774
I have designed a utopia based on Kaczynski’s writings. I think it could work. It would at least make a good utopian novel. I may make a thread about it sometime

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>> No.12097493

Ted fans should read Of First and Last Things from Nietzsche's Human, All Too Human.

>> No.12097860

I would agree with Kaczynski if we were already a space-faring civilization (and not just limited to our solar system). Then everyone would have the means to pursue their own goals which wouldn’t need to be surrogate.

But we’re not a space-faring civilization, and any kind of civilizational regression puts us in more danger of extinction by some event we couldn’t yet control (asteroid, supervolcano, ...).

>> No.12097873

>>12097493
Hi Jacobi

>> No.12097884

>>12094774
In anti tech revolution is outlines that another industrial revolution could never take place once the current one collapses. It simply would not be competitively viable and would lose out to other competing self-propagating systems.