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was he the nietzsche of the 20th century?

>> No.12082106

i dont see how

>> No.12082116
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>>12082007
No, Foucault was.

>> No.12082130

>>12082116
thank you. someone had to say it

>> No.12082140

No. Heidegger then Derrida. You can't be the 'next' Nietzsche by the way. He 'got' it, so to speak. You can only add to him, which is what Heidegger and Derrida spent their lives doing. Foucault was a softcore Nietzsche who tried to do Nietzsche in a differen't way and add his own twist to it.

>> No.12082146

Where do Blanchot/Bataille fit in?

>> No.12082155

>>12082116
This

>> No.12082185

>>12082007
no

>> No.12082252

>>12082146
>blanchot
now there's an underappreciated guy

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is he the nietzsche of the 21st century?

>> No.12082309

>>12082286
No, but he did bring back the tradition of the court jester

>> No.12082335

>>12082146
>>12082252
I am thinking of reading Thomas the Obscure is it good? Also is there a connection between him and Bataille?

>> No.12082351

>>12082335


Yes, Bataille is his true descendent in more than just ideas. Read Guilty and you’ll see.

>> No.12082382

>>12082007
None of those French faggots are anything like Nietzsche. Heidegger definitely.

>> No.12082397

>>12082351
Thanks. I really like what I've read by Bataille so my plan is to read everything he wrote.

>> No.12082500

>>12082382

Heidegger is awful though. Bataille’s supple prose is much closer to Nietzsche’s than Heidi’s turgid circumlocutionary diarrhea.

>> No.12082526

>>12082382
>He hasn't read any of the previously mentioned philosophers so he is shilling the fascist
Based and redpilled

>> No.12082650

>>12082526
>he hasn't read any of the philosophers so he has to shoebox them all into political labels
Based

>> No.12082659

>>12082650
How is Heidegger similar to Nietzsche?

>> No.12082676

>>12082659
I don't know I haven't read either

>> No.12082701

>>12082116
actually correct

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>>12082351
bataille gets my vote.

>> No.12082816

>>12082659

I think it’s the idea of the abyss as constitutional of the human subject. But for Nietzsche, the abyss has an ongoing creative aspect. For Heidegger, he argues why metaphysics should start from something rather than nothing. His has more of a chronological privileging of nothing, while in Nietzsche there is a more knotty entanglement of the abyss and humans than that of mere succession.