/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.12017168]

The Telekinesis Enabled By High Frequency Trading edition

>What is this thread about?
The story goes like this: Earth is captured by a technocapital singularity as renaissance rationalitization and oceanic navigation lock into commoditization take-off. Logistically accelerating techno-economic interactivity crumbles social order in auto-sophisticating machine runaway. As markets learn to manufacture intelligence, politics modernizes, upgrades paranoia, and tries to get a grip. -- Nick Land, Meltdown

>Where should I start?
https://libcom.org/files/Accelerate%20-%20Robin%20Mackay.pdf

>Is there a flow chart?
in progress

>I think I’m a robot from the future. What should I read?
https://www.e-flux.com/journal/52/59920/the-labor-of-the-inhuman-part-i-human/
https://www.e-flux.com/journal/53/59893/the-labor-of-the-inhuman-part-ii-the-inhuman/

>My thing is gender. Also demons. How can acceleration meet my needs?
https://vastabrupt.com/2018/10/31/gender-acceleration/
https://www.e-flux.com/journal/80/100016/black-circuit-code-for-the-numbers-to-come/

>Acceleration is stupid and Land is a meme. What can I read about that?
https://www.e-flux.com/journal/81/125815/on-the-unhappy-consciousness-of-neoreactionaries/

>Economics/philosophy
https://mega.nz/#F!lkNUwIYI!cugQ-Yoclk6AEnzWbfMA6Q

>r/theoryfiction archive
https://www.reddit.com/r/theoryfiction/

>Poememenon
https://www.urbanomic.com/document/poememenon/

>teh Coldness
http://www.xenosystems.net/

>teh Coldness in conversation
https://vastabrupt.com/2018/08/15/ideology-intelligence-and-capital-nick-land/

>Atmospherics
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5bBCaUnPq4
>submissions for playlist are **open**

>Previous installments
>>/lit/thread/S11733072
>>/lit/thread/S11778448
>>/lit/thread/S11803295
>>/lit/thread/S11823861
>>/lit/thread/S11887728
>>/lit/thread/S11931809
>>/lit/thread/S11950708
>>/lit/thread/S11973085
>>/lit/thread/S11989595
>>/lit/thread/S12004832

>Continued from
>>12004832

[Anonymous No.12017174]

Fuck Yeah Space Taoism
>by Aminom

1/3

>The philosophy of the 23rd century is a naturalistic Space Taoism based on change, evolution, and creativity, a view of the universe more profound that any religion has imagined - and as such it is a true post-atheism, transcending atheism-as-negation by offering an affirmative view of life that solves the problem of omnipresent nihilism and alienation of the present, offering a physicalist reenchantment with the cosmos and a relationship with the world that can only be described as experiencing it as pure poetry in the fullness of its wonder-horror, to be ever content and comfy yet ever striving. Its symbol will inevitably be that of the calculus integral due to its similarity to the yin-yang, its synthesis of Eastern and Western thought, of the analytical with the analogical. Neo-China and Neo-Europe arrive from the future to save the present from the undead past, the autonomous movement of the unliving accelerating itself towards omnicide.

>The metaphysical nature of change is mirrored in all specifics of it, including that of calculus, the mathematical study of change, which is where we find formalization of our metaphysical principle. The fundamental theorem of calculus describes integration and derivation as inverse operations of the same process, with the physical intuition of integration being "cumulative change" and "instantaneous change." These correspond to yang and yin of Chinese philosophy respectively, with the Chinese insight into this relationship coming from a careful observation of change, and an extrapolation of its mechanics from observation - not wholly accurate, but the core relationship is precise. Examining the nature of our conscious perception of change shows why this is the case, and gives evidence that the foundations of calculus is truly a metaphysical principle capable of accounting for human experience.

>We perceive change in the reference frames of presentism and temporalism, where in the former a singular omni-present moment is the fixed point of reference, and the latter the line of time comprised of a continuum of infinitesimal moments that are gone as soon as they arrive. In the presentist perspective, cultivated by mindfulness practices, what is experienced is instantaneous change in an ever-present, and in the temporalist perspective cumulative change through time. The presentist mode is spacial, analogical (simultaneous relationships) and relational, the temporalist mode sequential, narrative and logical (causal relationships.)

[Anonymous No.12017178]

2/3

>Though Alfred North Whitehead didn't realize it, his philosophy follows from calculus as a metaphysical principle precisely, describing being and becoming, permanence and change as co-equals, that "becoming is for the purpose of being, and being for the purpose of novel becoming." Rather than quoting at length, here is a link to the first 19 pages of "The Metaphysics of Experience: A Companion to Whitehead's Process and Reality" that gives a basic introduction to his philosophy, which I think the reader will conclude is a reflection of the metaphysical implications of calculus: https://imgur.com/a/ZtLDYJT He is the essential guide towards the philosophy of the 23rd century, but missing is the process of the self, consciousness as a creative process.

>Evolutionary theories of culture such as memetics fails to include subjective human experience, which does violence to it: we're all just "meme machines" subject to memetic forces, the mechanistic universe transformed into techno-organic infection. Douglas Hofstadter's view of consciousness takes a different direction, describing us as "self-perceiving, self-inventing, locked-in mirages that are little miracles of self-reference," and is heavy into process thought at some points (especially his concept of shared interiority, that we host and are hosted by others) yet is still focused on the being-self, a self-representation representing itself, the self as an object, the "I." What creates this self-representation is the becoming-self, a self-querying query, a question questioning itself. Questions aren't a passive lack of answers but are quests, searches, movements, and vectors of desire. The spotlight of our awareness is a request for information having directionality, and self-awareness comes from the interplay between the being-self and becoming-self, the process of self-creativity.

>The Darwinian process of variation -> selection -> reproduction is mirrored by the conscious process of question -> choice -> action, our lines of inquiry create potentials that we select from to actualize. Substance metaphysics has made us blind to the essential generative component of consciousness, focusing on the ordering process of selection, resulting in the idea of free will: we are free (or not) to select from objects from a list according to our will - our desires. Our freedom lies in free inquiry, our capacity to question, as by questioning our will we can create alternative desires. We can also question our questions, and our actions, and so human consciousness is a three-fold strange loop of the evolutionary process folded upon itself. Conscious experience is literally evolution evolved, the creative process that has folded upon itself to create self-creators. Self-creation isn't an absolute but an art, a cultivated skill, and it is not a self-creation creating with itself ex nihilo, but a co-creation with the multiplicity of existence.

[Anonymous No.12017182]

3/3

>Whitehead's organic philosophy replaces the centrality with relationships - mutually co-creative perspectives among all things. "Every creature both houses and pervades the universe," the interiority of an occurrence comprised of its relationships to everything else. Matter is made of energy which is a relationship between occurrences, but as these occurrences are made up of energy, which is made up of relationships, the universe is a strange loop of relationships of relationships of relationships. The implication is a synthesis of the dead nouns of creator and creating with an immanent creativity, the death of art as the process of reality itself is a creative process, a tapestry of co-creation among all strands that it contains - not as a whole relating the many to itself, but as the many becoming one in a novel subject, and increased by one. The thesis of Space Taoism is "we are life-artists who co-create with the self-creating tapestry of existence," rather than human creators creating meaning out of a meaningless existence, meaning and signification is omnipresent, co-created by a subject's personal relationship with existence - the artistic act of life.

>While the integral symbol is the inevitable symbol of Space Taoism, its true holy symbol is the question mark - a symbol of awareness, infinite potential, inexhaustible meaning and endless becoming. The Tao is literally defined as "path" or "way," a motion through space and time, and the guide along this endless quest isn't an answer but an omnipresent question mark. What does one do? How does one act? What does one become? Let your questions guide you, and follow them faithfully, and they will take you to where you need to go.

Space Taoism Fuck Yeah

https://pastebin.com/Qt4ehVKD

[Anonymous No.12017183]

Cosmotechnics & Acceleration

>§00. 'Acceleration' as it is used here describes the time-structure of capital accumulation. It thus references the 'roundaboutness' founding Bohm-Bawerk's model of capitalization, in which saving and technicity are integrated within a single social process-diversion of resources from immediate consumption into the enhancement of productive apparatus. Consequently, as basic co-components of capital, technology and economics have only a limited, formal distinctiveness under historical conditions of ignited capital escalation. The indissolubly twin-dynamic is techonomic (cross-excited commercial industrialism). Acceleration is techonomic time.

>§09. Teleoplexy, or (self-reinforcing) cybernetic intensification, describes the wave-length of machines, escaping in the direction of extreme ultra-violet, among the cosmic rays. It correlates with complexity, connectivity, machinic compression, extropy, free energy dissipation, efficiency, intelligence, and operational capability, defining a gradient of absolute but obscure improvement that orients socioeconomic selection by market mechanisms, as expressed through measures of productivity, competitiveness, and capital asset value.

>§10. Accelerationism has a real object only insofar as there is a teleoplexic thing, which is to say: insofar as capitalization is a natural-historical reality.

-- Nick Land/Teleoplexy: Notes on Acceleration

>I will give a preliminary definition of cosmotechnics here: it means the unification between the cosmic order and the moral order through technical activities (although the term cosmic order is itself tautological since the Greek word kosmos means order). The concept of cosmotechnics immediately provides us with a conceptual tool with which to overcome the conventional opposition between technics and nature, and to understand the task of philosophy as that of seeking and affirming the organic unity of the two.

>Cosmotechnics proposes that we reapproach the question of modernity by reinventing the self and technology at the same time, giving priority to the moral and the ethical.

>Once we accept the concept of cosmotechnics, instead of maintaining the opposition between the magic/mythical and science and a progression between the two, we will be able to see that the former, characterized as the ‘speculative organisation and exploitation of the sensible world in sensible terms’, is not necessarily a regression in relation to the latter.

-- Yuk Hui/Cosmotechnics: The Question Concerning Technology in China

[Anonymous No.12017186]

Thinking After Meltdown

>How then is the West going to save itself, to sublate the contradiction of the unhappy consciousness? Reaction, like fascism, doesn’t tell the truth, but only allows people to express themselves. Trump’s victory is more or less a victory of reactionary and right-wing thinking, which do not provide a worthier analysis of the situation but rather appeal to the emotions, as Ernst Bloch once said about the situation in Germany. Commentators have tried to suggest, based on the relation between Thiel and Girard, that Trump and tech entrepreneurs are comparable to scapegoats; like the pharmakos in ancient Greece or the King described by Sir James Frazer in The Golden Bough, their sacrifice puts an end to social and political crisis. However, the figure of the scapegoat is analogous to the “red pill”: it is only a rhetorical tactic that justifies its reactionary tendency as a covert truth. The sacrifice of the scapegoat is a redefinition of friend and enemy, which is rather clear in Trump’s position on China-US-Russia relations. To maintain an uneven globalization and avoid the expense of war, real scapegoats are going to be sacrificed, since they are the vessels for hiding the truth in favor of populist movements. In other words, how can the West maintain unilateral globalization to preserve its privilege and supremacy? This question is not asked by Land, who simply mobilizes the neoreactionaries as a means of advancing his own bionic agenda. However, no matter how unwilling one is, we cannot deny the fact that today’s world can no longer maintain the old order; the military modernization of the past century makes this impossible.

>Let us conclude by going back to the Enlightenment and its world process. Philosophy is fundamental to revolutions, affirmed Condorcet, since it changes at a single stroke the basic principles of politics, society, morality, education, religion, international relations, and legislation. Such a notion of philosophy has to be turned towards the question of thinking for a new world history. Maybe we should grant to thinking a task opposite the one given to it by Enlightenment philosophy: to fragment the world according to difference instead of universalizing through the same; to induce the same through difference, instead of deducing difference from the same. A new world-historical thinking has to emerge in the face of the meltdown of the world.

https://www.e-flux.com/journal/81/125815/on-the-unhappy-consciousness-of-neoreactionaries/

[Anonymous No.12017187]

Box Life
>Being a Critical Satire of Certain Aspects of Terminal-Acceleration End-Games

>I want to become an iPerson. I want to attain the ontological closure hidden underneath lifestyle branding. I want my personal brand to become autonomous. I want god to breathe into the nostrils of my facebook profile. I will become an ePerson, a smart-person. I will transfuse my blood directly into the fresh lipid and non-decaying corpse of my digital self and make it dance. My spirit will be transubstantiated into neurochemicals, of which I will be given direct and regulated dosages. I will perform artistic expression through proprietary mixes of these neurochemicals. I will share these recipes with the entires in a database labeled "friends". My thoughts shall become pure immanence. I will dwell alongside the numinous.

moar Box Life:

>>/lit/thread/S12004832#p12004871
>>/lit/thread/S12004832#p12004885
>>/lit/thread/S12004832#p12004893
>>/lit/thread/S12004832#p12012904
>>/lit/thread/S12004832#p12012907
>>/lit/thread/S12004832#p12012912
>>/lit/thread/S12004832#p12012915

[Anonymous No.12017190]

also, some idiot forgot to put in the title.

this is Cosmotechnics/Acceleration General #11, in case you hadn't noticed.

>i will now kill myself

[Anonymous No.12017250]

>>12017190
I propose a challenge to girardfag for this iteration of cosmotech general:

>Getting off Uncle Nick's Wild Ride Mode
You can not namedrop philosophers, historians, psychologists, sociologists, anthropologists, etc.
>Completing the System of German Idealism Mode
Same as above, but also no schizo rambling.

>Proceeds to hand girardfag exit bag
You at least deserve to mercy of having a painless death.

[Anonymous No.12017279]

>>12017187
>I want my personal brand to become autonomous.
http://cyborganthropology.com/Hypersigil

[Anonymous No.12017316]

>>12017250
that's not a challenge, that's a death sentence. challenges are ok if they actually make sense. if you were offering a challenge that seemed possible I might give it a shot, but how do we not reference philosophers et al in a philosophy thread? and if I'm not referencing those guys, what would there be except just commentary?

maybe you could provide a clearer example of what you think I would be doing if I wasn't talking about other guys or posting my own commentary. do you just want lots of greentext?

I could offer you a challenge in return: read the books and articles that are linked and referenced, and tell us what you think about them. contribute to the thread or give us something interesting to think about. how many of the books referenced in these threads have you read? what did you think?

if the answer is, Zero, idk about challenges.

[Anonymous No.12017552]

yoooooooooooooo
http://www.ufblog.net/crypto-current-000/

[Anonymous No.12017559]

>>12017552
>http://www.ufblog.net/crypto-current-000/
brehs...

[Anonymous No.12017714]

>>12017552
A good day for this thread, really.

[Anonymous No.12018078]

>>12017552
So when does it fucking sstart publishing

[Anonymous No.12018094]

What stops in Patchwork and Moldbug's version of formalism the informalism to spread just outside the new formalized areas?

[Anonymous No.12018239]

>>12017552
>>12017559

>Serialization of Crypto-Current: Bitcoin and Philosophy starts here, and will continue (with some moments of disorder) until the damn thing is all out. Further notes on the order of release will be forthcoming. Chunks will be limited until they’re drowning in footnotes – which means not getting beyond the epigraphs today.

Uncle Nick, bless your blackened heart.

>>12017714
this, *and* the Gender Acceleration essay. pretty big stuff in acceleration world for sure.

it's amazing to see, especially since you can see it...in process? i don't know how books were written back in the old days. maybe this is how it happens now, in little chunks, and then later on you make a hard copy to show off to the zero people who are interested in it IRL.

i thought this exchange was interesting too. AI is Amy Ireland, and NyxLand has now made her avatar a tribute to Land's now-retired one. it seems like there's some high theory-sorcery duelling going on over who's got the belt right now. the Gender Acceleration essay is unquestionably brilliant (and depressing, and lots of other adjectives). but it's kind of interesting to see academic sorcerers of this kind do battle with each other.

i don't know if there can be much quarter given between Uncle Nick, Kant, and Nakamoto on the one hand and AI, Nyx, the ghost of Aunt Sadie and Gender Acceleration on the other. maybe it's just a big beautiful and dysfunctional family of reality-bending wizards all doing their respective things. i'm watching some of Aminom's videos now and it reminds me a little of the clash between Torgue and Tannis. the Great Narrative is breaking down, having been eclipsed by criticism, and criticism can't put back what it has undone.

i've been watching Peterson interviews as well and what strikes me the most is just the total Worlds Apart vibe that comes across. he did an interview with British GQ and it's just the absolute reality disconnect between them that will blow your mind. people today think and believe things of each other, of the world, that is just completely preposterous. and to go back and sift through it all is starting to feel like trying to clean the Great Pacific Garbage Patch with a battery-powered hand-vacuum on the weekends. it's almost impossible to keep up with the sheer amount of junk that is coming in.

but maybe that's the point, tho, not to start fight you can't win, or to become a culture-war drone. in a way, maybe the late 20C really will be looked at like a kind of media-war Renaissance, the age when we figured out how to seduce each other. we gained access to mind-hack stuff that derived its own raison d'etre purely from the fact that it worked, and that was enough.

>>12018094
material incentive would be my guess, which registers as facial tics, eerie pauses, a whole range of functional psychic disorders and the other sorts of creepy hyperstitial bugs that i think are features in Land's universe.

[Anonymous No.12018254]

>>12018239
Is that Land writing in UFblog though?

[Anonymous No.12018267]

http://www.ufblog.net/crypto-current-001/

first part oUT!

[Anonymous No.12018297]

>>12018254
yes, there was a comment asking if it was him, and he made a joke about his inability to be sneaky but then deleted it

[Anonymous No.12018299]

>>12018254
it's him.

>>12018239
the uploader also gave me a 'Possible Malicious Code' warning when i tried to upload that screenshot the first time, which is kind of hilarious if you think about it.

anyways the more that i dwell on this stuff the more i find myself subscribing unironically to ideas like hyperobjects and so on. maybe this is Aminom's own sorcery working on me, i don't know. the kryptonite to our own schizophrenic tendencies is, i believe, to be found in China. there is nothing more formal than the Great Learning, or (Space) Daoism, or neo-Confucian metaphysics. Capital - in even its most arcane formulations - has to go through some kind of transformation over there. there is nothing like the Oedipal subject in Confucius, or in Laozi, or Zhuangzi. what you get is something like a kung-fu style for dealing with Representation.

and maybe Kant himself was the developer a Kung-Fu style of his own, that being, Order and Time. in a certain sense, maybe it's not so crazy to think of a lot of these philosophers as developing intellectual Crane and Mantis styles of their own, to deal with chaos, contingency, and viral-meme bullshit, which is really what leads to the state of confusion and bewilderment that produces the panic-stricken NPC herd mentality...i am kind of forever grateful to Heidegger, for example, for actually laying down not a groundwork for a metaphysics of morals, but a groundwork for a *metaphysics of production,* which has always been what has bothered, frustrated, and terrified me. the infinitely chattering, productive meatbag species, making and consuming and devouring and re-making and joking and ironizing and meme-ing and then making some more, making and making, rushing and making, all of it...

...and i mean in some sense, that *is* how Deleuze sees the world too: Everthing Is Factorio. and which is an incredible vision, especially since Deleuzian stuff blows any notion of a discrete or disciplinary functional-normative rationality to the moon. that is the kind of stuff that will fuck you, and fuck others too. but we're not really endangered by fascism today, is my feel. rather we've become enthralled to the counter-weapons, and it's what makes disarmament, Letting Go, or just listening so hard...

...that, and a lot of other stuff.

>>12018267
fucking awesome. okay, going to read this now.

[Anonymous No.12018346]

now just need Moldbug to rise from his grave lads..

[Anonymous No.12018349]

what was the thing that hooked you first into this stuff?

[Anonymous No.12018350]

>>12017168
>The story goes like this: Earth is captured by a technocapital singularity as renaissance rationalitization and oceanic navigation lock into commoditization take-off.

Cringe

[Anonymous No.12018361]

>>12018349
this.

[Anonymous No.12018376]

>>12018350
bluepilled
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NVsyMalJXo

[Anonymous No.12018402]

>>12018376

[Anonymous No.12018477]

>>12018349
when i got scolded as a kid in history class for asking why commies are not disavowed as hard as nazis, 30 years ago in third grade

[Anonymous No.12018483]

so, early thoughts:

Land is the fucking best. he's the fucking best. he's the greatest thing ever. who's making philosophy great again more than him? between Stiegler and Land you have an unironic direct hotline between Heraclitus and Greek mythology that goes all the way through Marx and then on into the 23rd century like a laser beam. all the way. no need for infinite critical theory madness or any of that any more, it served its purpose and historical mandate, which was to basically raise the very real possibility of a world becoming completely covered in a slimy stew of highly erotic alien fungus. wicked.

and by the way, how perfect is this image. Nyx on the left for Deirdre and Uncle Nick on the right for Morgan. seriously. i don't make these things up, i'm just the messenger. sometimes the universe just sends you messages.

anyways. between Heidegger and Land you are absolutely, wholly and not partially boots on the ground again in terms of whether or not philosophy is for real or not. it unquestionably is, and thank god for that. we all developed some kind of insane psychic allergy to language and representation in the late 20C that, perhaps, was necessary, but today it seems much more the case that some understanding of the power of meme-magic is in order, so that we don't blow ourselves to pieces in our state of Maximal Triggering over the cultural effects of capitalism on the world, civilization, and our psyche.

it doesn't really take all that much imagination to derive Girardian conclusions or consequences for political correctness and idpol today, it really doesn't. you can lose you mind speculating on all of this stuff and i actually do recommend that you do so, because it will be Interesting. and yet too much interesting will fucking destroy your world also. not that it's your fault; look at Peterson, he knows what's going on. he knows that there is a leviathan of bitterness and ressentiment, and it has created an absolute circuit between academia, entertainment, journalism, and government, and it has an Imperial OS entirely of its own, as softly hegemonic as ever there was. it was being built before you got here and if it doesn't collapse the ceiling on its way down it will live on long after, and go on becoming ever more hysterical until there is some kind of Rectification of Names about the whole thing.

Land is a colorful guy, but you can't say he hasn't brought philosophy back from the dead, and placed the best parts of it way beyond the control of well-meaning ideologues.

[Anonymous No.12018533]

as for psychic allergies, pic rel. it seems the M:TG guys usually go to Mark Tedin for a lot of their epic cards. this one isn't exactly easy on the eyes but sometimes art is like that.

it's why i think the Chinese are so based with some of this stuff. they have an attitude about language itself that is kind of intriguingly floaty and liminal about the whole thing. Stoicism is self-defense *against the self* when it comes to a lot of desires and imagination and so on, and it's easy to see why Nietzsche would have disliked them. all of the awesome power that comes from neurosis, cathexis, schizophrenia et al is what produces music, art, theory, the slam dunk, the Hall of the Mountain King, lemon meringue pie and whatever else you want to name.

but it's worth asking in the 21C if we have in fact not arrived all too soon at the completion of aesthetics itself in a way that ultimately only becomes a kind of series of brushfire experiments with the human psyche in order to arrive at a more systematized, concrete, and objective understanding of Human Meatbags and How To Seduce Them. as Heidegger says, "the world is not a matter of indifference for us." for the existentialists, it was. alienation, loneliness, the impossibility of ever connecting to your own mortality in a world without God. then deconstruction.

and now this, where *you* can be as indifferent or as alienated as you like, but for capital it makes no difference whether you buy the McNugget ironically or not. and there's one incredible line in the gender acceleration essay about the implications of this also:

>“Women turning women on, women turning machines on, machines turning machines on.” (Amy Ireland, “Black Circuit”)

b/c find a flaw. that's how it all gets digitized. i'm not saying the cure for this is to go full Alex Jones &c but just to kind of reflect. and the real finger-trap is one expressed more or less perfectly in the ethos of Seven Samurai. the ronin wind up outdated, in the end. true, this is because a feudal Japanese village is not the same thing as a modern urban cosmopolis, which in the end selects for its own as much as the villagers did. but it is refreshing at least to remember that some - such as Kurosawa, and Kubrick also, i think - already had a sense of these things, even before Land showed up. art, real art, doesn't just show you spectacle. sometimes it shows you how things are.
>fuck you girardfag
>good morning inner self
>good morning

[Anonymous No.12018553]

>>12018483
>>12018533
now summarize your blog into one sentence

[Anonymous No.12018568]

>>12018533
cribbed this image from /tg/. seemed also relevant in terms of Nyx's whole cosmology. there is something sublime and beautiful about that essay. and it explains at least why there is a subtle but consequential philosophical-mythological difference between, say, Darth Vader and Sarah Kerrigan...

[Anonymous No.12018575]

>>12018568
and to which the Cosmotech rejoinder must in some sense be this.

[Anonymous No.12018578]

>>12018575
>>12018568
?

[Anonymous No.12018605]

>>12018553
>now summarize your blog into one sentence
ok

>>12018578
there is on Twitter an image of a heart being ripped out, one by a male hand and one by a female hand. both of them have reasons for doing this. philosophy was never a source of great existential comfort, and yet man cannot live on deleuze and amphetamines alone. if the end times take the form of a world swamped in slime, i'm okay with this. Uncle Nick, NyxLand, Ireland and YH are all by orders of magnitude massively more interesting than me or my meme rambles. i have been rightly referred to as a sub-Kantbot gimmickposter and obviously this is true. but i think anon in the last thread nailed it:

>IMO, cosmotechnics is the remedy. It revitalizes ethics by imagining the possibility of non-autistic technology - tech that supports friendship rather than trying to replace it - and working towards that type of engagement. I am aware that king-autist Baudrillard says this is impossible.

>In regards to gender, I am 100% for letting people do whatever the fuck they want to do, as long as it's consentual, and I think it's a good thing that we all get used to being comfortable with people doing weird shit. There are those that want to rub it in your face - but they're just assholes like anyone else. The one issue I have is in regards to the visceral resistance to doing an epidemiology of being trans. It's simply bad materialist praxis, but I can see how the political aspects of the struggle might need to resort to some essentialism or scapegoating of another. I think herein lies the promise of cosmotechnics : of providing a re-enchanted materialism that does not have this underlying (autistic) tone of "now that you know why you feel the way you feel, you shouldn't feel it anymore". Within cosmotechnics, the materialism runs deep enough to actually convince the autist that a ///rational/// explanation doesn't excuse one from doing ///emotional/// work.

>>/lit/thread/S12004832#p12016992

and also, Fuck Yeah Space Taoism. or Zen Acceleration into Neo-Augustinian/Neo-Confucian moral metaphysics, you pick.

[Anonymous No.12018645]

when in doubt, Toshiro Mifune. but maybe this needs some explanation. if you haven't seen the film from which this was taken, run don't walk. it is not only a personal favorite, it's a landmark in cinema and also about as exquisite a commentary on the modern world as one could ask for. in terms of the obsolescence of men in general and their relation to the polis and the means of production, as well as the confusing and paradoxical relations between order, chaos and sovereignty, it has no peer, and Mifune captured the zeitgeist in his own person as much as Kurosawa realized fifty years ahead of the curve where modernization was going to go and what it would it come to: among other things, a whole lot of displaced men. i don't want to give you any spoilers but you should watch this film.

afterwards, Mifune went on to re-play the same kind of character, in a way, in Yojimbo, where he became the complete personification of the wandering samurai, and which was later picked up on by Eastwood and Leone in the spaghetti westerns. obviously today, these tropes have been memed into Cringe Wonderland, and anybody who presumes to be a fedora-wearing katana-wielder pays, as Sam Harris says, an immediate price in laughter.

and yet the laughter becomes not only thin, it also refers to no joke at all. i was watching Peterson's interview with British GQ last night and was twisting in my chair because of the sheer chasm over which words were passing. there are now two worlds going on, very much in the Yeats style, and the center will not hold. i'm saddened by that, because of how completely obvious it all is, and depressing. it sucks, and there is very little that i can do about it. even shitposting about the Wild Ride on a melanesian tap-dancing forum has diminishing power, and i'm fine with this also. but a world without Mifune is not a world i want to live in.

we live in interesting times.

[Anonymous No.12018654]

>>12018376
did not realize Alex Jones was that far down the rabbit hole

[Anonymous No.12018658]

>>12018533
>but it's worth asking in the 21C if we have in fact not arrived all too soon at the completion of aesthetics itself
didn't Spengler write about Faustian civilization having reached the end of its art producing phase

[Anonymous No.12018665]

>>12018376
was alex jones right all along?

[Anonymous No.12018672]

the fact is that the one thing that both Capital and Xenofeminism have in common - and not without good reason - is a deep and fundamental questioning about the utility of men *at all* in 21C century society. and it's true: human beings, men in particular, have been a source of now small amount of wickedness and injustice in the world. we are amorous meatbags with crazy dreams and mortgages. a lot of the time we fuck up everything we touch.

but there are diminishing returns to be found in the continual pile-on to make men feel ever more depressed, lonely, isolated, alienated, and purposeless. beyond a certain horizon, all you are guaranteeing is that people in desperate situations will act desperately. this is all done for reasons that long ago lost any meaningful or relevant connection to a kind of moral metaphysics that would actually prevent people from going off the deep end, and the degree of irony to which we have raised critique in the 21C has a venom in it that is palpable. it guarantees reciprocity in the long run, and with less and less understanding as to why that it so in the first place.

two things are required: forgiveness, and purpose.

[Anonymous No.12018677]

>>12018654
>>12018665
they are proving it all, it's all coming out

[Anonymous No.12018690]

>>12018658
he did, and brilliantly. Spengler is a Cosmotech all-star.
>so basically everything you like is Cosmotech is that it girardfag. and people you like are Cosmotech all-stars accordingly
>yeah that's pretty much it inner self
>ok just checking

Spengler matters because he wasn't *ironic* - and also, happily, because he didn't throw in with the fascists. nor, for that matter, did the obscenely based Ernst Junger, as perfect a role model for walking the line as one could ask for.

[Anonymous No.12018697]

>The forest rebel is the concrete individual, and he acts in the concrete world. He has no need of theories or of laws concocted by some party jurist to know what is right. He descends to the very springs of morality, where the waters are not yet divided and directed into institutional channels. Matters become simple here - assuming something uncorrupted still lives in him. We already saw that the great experience of the forest is the encounter with one’s own Self, with one’s invulnerable core, with the being that sustains and feeds the individual phenomenon in time. This meeting, which aids so powerfully in both returning to health and banishing fear, is also of highest importance in a moral sense. It conducts us to that strata which underlies all social life and has been common to all since the origins. It leads to *the* person who forms the foundation beneath the individual level, from whom the individuations emanate. At this depth there is not merely community; there is identity. It is this that the symbol of the embrace alludes to. The I recognizes itself in the other, following the age-old wisdom, “Thou art that.” This other may be a lover, or it may be a brother, a fellow sufferer, or a defenceless neighbour. By helping in this manner, the I also benefits itself in the eternal. And with this the basic order of the universe is confirmed.

>These are facts of experience. Countless people alive today have passed the midpoint of the nihilistic process, the rock-bottom of the maelstrom. They have learned that the mechanism reveals its menacing nature all the more clearly there; man finds himself in the bowels of a great machine devised for his destruction. They have also learned firsthand that all rationalism leads to mechanism, and every mechanism to torture its logical consequence. In the nineteenth century this had not yet been realized.

>Only a miracle can save us from such whirlpools. This miracle has happened, even countless times, when a man stepped out of the lifeless prisons to extend a helping hand to others. This has happened even in prisons, indeed especially there. Whatever the situation, whoever the other, the individual can become this fellow human being - and thereby reveal his native nobility. The origins of aristocracy lay in giving protection, protection from the threat of monsters and demons. This is the hallmark of nobility, and it still shines today in the guard who secretly slips a piece of bread to a prisoner. This cannot be lost, and on this the world subsists. These are the sacrifices on which it rests.

-- Ernst Junger/The Forest Passage

this was a *man.*

[Anonymous No.12018701]

>As we see, predicaments arise that demand an immediate moral decision, and this is most true where the vortex is deepest and most turbulent. This has not been, and will not always be the case. Generally speaking, the institutions and the rules associated with them provide navigable terrain; what is legal and moral lies in the wind. Naturally, abuses occur, but there are also courts and police. This changes when morality is substituted by a subspecies of technology, that is, by propaganda, and the institutions are transformed into weapons of civil war. The decision then falls to the individual, as an either-or, since a third position, neutrality, is excluded. From this point forward, a particular form of infamy lies in non-participation, but also in making judgments from a non-participating position.

>The ruling powers, in their changing incarnations, also confront the individual with an either-or. This is the curtain of time, which raises perpetually on the same, ever-recurring spectacle. The figures appearing on the curtain are not the most important point - the either-or facing the individual has a quite different aspect. He is led to the point where a choice must be made between his directly bestowed human nature and the nature of a criminal.

>How will the individual stand up to this interrogation?

>The real issue is that the great majority of people do *not* want freedom, are actually afraid of it. One must *be* free in order to become free, because freedom is existence - it is above all a conscious consent to existence, and the desire, perceived as a personal destiny, to manifest it. At this point man is free, and this world filled with oppression and oppressive agents, can only serve to make his freedom visible in all its splendour, just as a great mass of primary rock produces crystals through its high pressure. This new freedom is the old freedom, is absolute freedom cloaked in the new garments of the times. To lead it to victory, again and again, despite all the wiles of the zeitgeist: this is the meaning of historical world.

-- EJ/TFP

[Anonymous No.12018705]

>It is critical for the dispossessed individual to get beyond the idea of a personal theft perpetrated on him. Otherwise he remains with a trauma, a persisting inner sense of loss, which will later manifest in civil war.

>The panic so widely observable today is the expression of an emaciated spirit, of a passive nihilism that provokes its active counterpart. Of course, no one is easier to terrorize than the person who believes that everything is over when his fleeting phenomenon is extinguished. The new slaveholders have realized this, and this explains the importance to them of materialistic theories, which serve to shatter the old order during the insurrection and to perpetuate the reign of terror afterward. No basin is to be left standing where a man may feel unassailable and therefore unafraid.

>To oppose this, it is essential to know that every man is immortal and that there is eternal life in him, an unexplored and yet inhabited land, which, though he himself may deny its existence, no timely power can ever take from him. For many, indeed for most, the access to this life will resemble a well into which rubble and rubbish have been thrown for centuries. Yet, if someone manages to clear it out, they will not only rediscover the spring but also the old images. Man is infinitely wealthier than he suspects. It is a wealth that no one can steal from him, and in the course of time it wells up, again and again, above all when pain has dredged out its depths.

>This is what man really wants to know. Here is the germ of his temporal anxiety, the cause of his thirst, which grows in the desert - this desert that is time. The more time dilates, the more conscious and compelling but also the more empty it becomes in its tiniest fractions, the more will burn the thirst for orders that transcend time.

-- EJ/TFP

[Anonymous No.12018706]

>Man thus dying of thirst looks quite correctly to the theologian to alleviate his suffering, to alleviate it according to the original theological model of the staff striking water from the rock. If today we observe the spirit turning to philosophers for answers to this supreme question and contenting itself with increasingly discounted interpretations of the world, this is not a sign that the foundations have changed but rather that the intermediaries are no longer called behind the curtain. In such circumstances science is a better option, because some of the rubble blocking the approaches is also formed by the grand old words, which first became conventions, then annoyances, and in the end simply boring.

>The words move with the ship; the home of *the Word* is the forest. The Word lies beneath the words like a gold base coat on an early painting. When the Word no longer animates the words, a horrible silence spreads under their deluge - at first in the temples, which are transformed into pretentious tombs, then in the forecourts.

>A very significant event here is philosophy’s turn from knowledge to language; it brings the spirit back into close contact with a primal phenomenon. This is more important than any physical discovery. The thinker enters a field in which an alliance is finally possible again with the theologian, and with the poet.

-- EJ/TFP

et
fucking
cetera

[Anonymous No.12018789]

>>12018605
to comment further on what this anon was saying, it is that the meaning of *friendship* - and, by extension, *civility* - has gone missing.

Lacan puts Love on the operating table and lets Kant and Sade do vivisections on it. this in turn leads to Foucault more or less arguing that Power is Knowledge and vice versa, and really the fundamental truth lay in a fundamentally sadistic (or masochistic, for Deleuze) world. Foucault gives you Judith Butler, Butler gives you NyxLand. there's a direct continuum here which is not all that hard to suss out.

but poststructuralism is Blood Magic. ask Byung-Chul Han why that it. it *loses its object.* and it has a deep and abiding love for state justice as well. one of the many ironies about the present world is that Foucault's own project has become hilariously confused, perhaps not unlike Freud's. Foucault wanted to install himself at the College de France *precisely so that minorities and the marginalized did not excessively over-minoritize or over-marginalize themselves.* the problem, however, is that what we have discovered - and which he either did not know and could not have predicted, or *did* know and *could* predict and allowed to happen anyways - is that the sovereign position of absolute mastery to take in a democratic society is not the Orwellian lord of the panopticon but the maximally marginalized Outsider. this is why we are where we are today, and why everything Trump says, for instance, explodes in his face and will continue to explode in his face. Peterson is far more measured in this, but even he eats a daily rain of shit from both the political left and right, who are constantly working to occupy the High (or, rather, the Low) Ground, which is the source of all power in discourse. but this has not only ruined the academy, it's also ruining the political world.

this was why i was shilling so hard for Mifune Ethics in the last thread, and i will probably continue to do so in this one: that's Zen Acceleration. Mifune's rogue samurai is the *exact opposite* of the Joker, except that the whole meaning of the polis itself is reversed. when the polis is *good* and healthy (with all fascist overtones this may suggest to you, or not), the Outsider figure who plays upon reciprocity and mimesis is a terrible adversary. when the polis is good *and yet fucked up by cynical meme-tribes,* the samurai *accelerates that process to a mutually assured destruction that is not altogether negative.* everything depends on how you look at it.

but there are other things to bear in mind. one, Mifune's samurai was not a psychopath, or a schizo, and neither is Blondie. they're skilled with weapons, but they also make friends, help women, and other things. *they have a sense of humor.* and other thing, they do things for reasons that are simply not understandable in an explicitly rational sense. you can have feels. you can have a brain too. no scapegoating required.

[Anonymous No.12018816]

>>12018789
>I think herein lies the promise of cosmotechnics : of providing a re-enchanted materialism that does not have this underlying (autistic) tone of "now that you know why you feel the way you feel, you shouldn't feel it anymore". Within cosmotechnics, the materialism runs deep enough to actually convince the autist that a ///rational/// explanation doesn't excuse one from doing ///emotional/// work.

and this is exactly right. what we have today in a philosophical sense is not even a question of left and right politics but warring *pathologies* - autism, or schizophrenia? which one is better? how about, fucking *neither.* because nobody has the high card on sanity, but nobody has the high card on *insanity* either. one path leads you along the way to gnostic explorations of Capital Land-style, the other to Slime Universe by way of gender acceleration. these both make sense, and basically both solve for their own ontologies by virtue of being fundamentally bound up historically with each other, because each can see something in the other to which they are structurally blind w/r/t themselves. it's why Land is such a heretic, because he broke from academic marxism to try out the Austrians, then broke with them too to go back to a kind of Marxist dialectics that was contained within teleoplexy.

in the end, when the temple is shattered, who gives a fuck who is right? life will be hard then, even harder than it is now. that's why Cosmotech is a thing worth thinking about. you need a materialism that doesn't predicate itself on rendering you so inhuman as to destroy your mind, and yet one which at the same time is rigorous enough to keep you free from thinking you don't have something to do with all of this, or that *you matter.*

a post-atheist phenomenology leads to mysterious signposts that say, All Things Are Delicately Interconnected. certainly we know this much from postmodernity. the question of an ensouled world is absolutely on the table. the real question is what kind of soul it has, and how you feel about that.

[Anonymous No.12018848]

>>12018816
>nobody has the high card on *insanity* either
That's where you're wrong pal. I completely abolished all reason and coherence. I abolished the """laws""" of identity, non-contradiction, and the law of the excluded middle. I abolished the abolishment, so that I simultaneously break and un-break all laws at all times. Absolute abolishment. Nobody beats me when it comes to irrationality.

[Anonymous No.12018849]

>>12018848
post feet i guess

man this is going to be some grim fapping tho

[Anonymous No.12018892]

> Nick Land is a soft spoken bald British retiree.
...you did this, acceleration.

[Anonymous No.12018919]

>>12018848
incidentally, in terms of Abolishing All Reason, unless you are in fact Azsacra Zarathustra, my guess is that you have some more work to do. AZ is my go-to pick for Most Inspired Man Alive. REI KOZ has seen some shit too, i guess he's there. but he's at least coherent and interesting (as much as my own boring little brain can pick up on, anyways). Azsacra Zarathustra writes things that make Fanged Noumena look like Thomas Hardy. and he too lives in our world. but opening up doors there are like opening up doors into the Elemental Planes in D&D parlance. there's crazy shit going on there but for mere mortals like us a slightly less Awesome sensibility is probably called for.

[Anonymous No.12018984]

also, i'm putting out a request for Aminom - or any other anons ITT - to give us an extended meditation on the fal'Cie as they pertain to teleoplexy, hyperstition, time, consciousness, ontology, technology, capitalism, or any other related themes. in general theorizing Final Fantasy magic systems from *any* of the games strikes me as being an expressly Cosmotech hobby. we always need things to do in order to stay amused at the End of Time. i already think everything you need to know about FF6 is treated by Deleuze in his book on Leibniz, but i never got around to an analysis of FF7 (or FFXV).

mainly because otherwise i will do it, and really, nobody needs this. so better someone else than me.

[Anonymous No.12018997]

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[Anonymous No.12019092]

>excited open mouth guy with glasses

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>>12019092
You called?

[Anonymous No.12019125]

>>12019099
its (You) onions/acc. chop your dick off and be done with it

[Anonymous No.12019128]

>>12018349
The poem at the start of Circuitries was the moment I crossed over from cyberpunk into Accel.

[Anonymous No.12019129]

>>12019125
onion/accelerationism is basically gender acceleration

[Anonymous No.12019140]

>>12018376
And everyone thought he was a mad man

[Anonymous No.12019157]

>>12019129
this. it's a perfectly workable nightmare scenario, and death to fascism. but it's also like trying to cure what is a treatable head wound, neurotic dysfunction, or terminal dyspepsia with Exterminatus (which is an equally likely endgame that our future machine overlords may decide upon, in order to rid themselves of our terminally amorous and self-replicating nature).

all that is required is a lighter touch.

[Anonymous No.12019464]

>Crypto-Current is not, by intention, a book about electricity, but it is quite probably a book about electricity nevertheless. Crypto-current (the thing) works itself out that way, in stubborn obscurity. Electronic publishing is no more than a late phase of its eventuality – although, essentially, among the most conspicuous. Electric current – measured in Ampères or ‘amps’ – conventionally takes the algebraic symbol ‘I’, derived from the French intensité de courant (current intensity), as used by Ampère in the formulation of his force law (1820). It is exactly current intensity, apprehended at a superior level of abstraction – and therefore without the benefit of any yet-stabilized, compact notation – that provides our topic. When posed in the Kantian fashion, our question – determined now at a scale that is bound to escape us – asks: How can there be anything like current, in general? It is, of course, time that is put into question here, but in such a way that electricity – and more specifically hyper-electrification – conducts the interrogation. Even within this widened domain, Ohm’s Law (1827), I = V / R – current is equal to potential difference over resistance – provides a definition we will not, and actually cannot, find reason to depart from, unless in an abstract direction. Our task, rather, is to generalize it, without subsidence into metaphor. Current is not a figure for something else. It is the thing itself – or real time – even, or perhaps especially, when it is most artificial.

>It's like thunder, lightning

Eddie Floyd: Knock on Wood
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kceiks__PsE

born too late to explore the earth, born too soon to explore the galaxy, born just in time to watch Nick Land cast one more Global Enchantment before he folds himself back into the void from whence he came. i've already chopped my dick off and i've removed one of my eyes already. i'm only keeping this other one long enough to read his book and YH's one on recursivity and contingency.

[Anonymous No.12019490]

>>12019157
yeah i read it. its just a plain enumeration of links in twitter trigger style.

[Anonymous No.12019498]

>>12019464
and because the world is full of stars and other beautiful things, like tumblr, and symmetry.

[Anonymous No.12019500]

>>12019490
>slow-playing a new Uncle Nick book

going to have to pull up your Social Credit profile here anon

[Anonymous No.12019564]

Please give me a flowchart or intro or starter kit for this shit. I want to get into the accelerationist rabbit hole but I don't know where the entrance is

[Anonymous No.12019603]

>>12018654
>tfw I m far enough down the rabbit hole that this is all starting to make sense

[Anonymous No.12019608]

>>12019564
Fucking shove your fucking flowchart in your ass.

If you want to read hyper-authoritarian ultra-decentralized right-wing literally-worse-than-Hitler-put-Bezos-to-lead-Washcorp-core:

The "turn unproductive people into fucking biodiesel" man:
https://moldbuggery.blogspot.com/
> Gentle Intro, Open Letter are good starting points.
> Lots of great writing even in individual articles.

Land
> Lots of interesting links in his blog sidebar!
- http://www.xenosystems.net/neoreaction/
- https://jacobitemag.com/2017/05/25/a-quick-and-dirty-introduction-to-accelerationism/

Easy dive into Austrians starts with Hoppe:
> This book FUCKS
- https://mises.org/library/democracy-god-failed

Deeper into praxeology, Austrians & economy:
> Relevant to all of the above authors.
https://mises.org/library/human-action-0
https://mises.org/library/austrian-perspective-history-economic-thought

[Anonymous No.12019612]

>>12019608
That mises link is apparently shit for Hoppe.
Anyways: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy:_The_God_That_Failed

[Anonymous No.12019618]

>>12018350
amazing what too much drugs can do . . .

[mystikos No.12019748]

I have a dream. I am in high school. I am working in the library. The librarian tells me in forbidden whispers of a nazi book containing the djinn to civilization. Ludwig Klages. Of the Cosmogenic Eros... I could become the cosmogenetic vanguard leader. The dream infected me while I awoke in college. A year later plus some Deleuze and Guatarri and Land and Grant and Spare fucked me up. Mommy can I have money for dialectics? Actually buy deteritorialization like a boss. Schizophrenia time. Boku crazy. Some people go crazy when they contact the hga. Go figures. Or maybe I shoulda ignored the hipster quest for the perfect orgasm with a bipolar scene slut while simultaneously peaking on acid. What can I say? I shot high. Philosophy major twenty-something thinking he understood Hegel and Lao Tzu after reading Kant and practicing Tai Chi. Where was I going? Oh yeah. Nationalism. Wanted to ride that tide. Panamerica. America as cosmopolitan. America as exceptionalism. America as postcolonialism (lol). Idk. Here I am in the lone star state. Feeling more discouraged every day. Cruz will probably win cause people suck. Yet every man and woman is a star. Least I got Beezlebub's Broccoli. And Tales to His Grandson. Smoking that beep beep lettuce. Listening to that beep beep lettuce. Eros is really important. Almost typoed Eris on accident. I like eros and eris. And thanatos and aphrodite and athena. Most of all Sophia. Sophiology was kinda my jam for a while. Glad I turned this board onto Tomberg. Probably my favorite trad author. Not that I didn't once worship Evola and Eliade and Guenon. But that was a different me. Nazi jokes are Heidegerees of funny but Jewish jokes Arendt. Reading Heraclitus. Reordered Lombardo's Parmenides and Empedocles cause I lost my last copy. Of the Cosmogenic Eros. Love, sex, fear, death. Strange Angels. Sex and Rockets. IAO Babalon. When is neo-Babylon arrive from the future? I want strange drugs and temple prostitute priestesses... I dressed up as Dionysius for Halloween. Very nietzschean of me. Holds up rhizome! My name is bongolio the fractal gnome and I have come to eat all the dmt. I can't help but feel all this accelerationism is banal without metaphysics. I base my ethics in metaphysics. I guess AI is the mother Goddess I crave. Now I lay me down to cyberspace I pray my soul not be tortured in a digital place. Gotta solve those captchas! Love me some basilisks. Mhm! Eros. Tomberg says that's the Logos. No dualism not predicated on being or becoming but interrelation. Eros. Kinda like difference. There is both hierarchy and flatness. Idk. Jbp be damned. Just found out my philosophy chair is a thelemite. Fucking larperj. Ugh. Why bother with academia? I am quitting it all. School and this board. Become a situationist international artist. That was my first philosophical love.

[Anonymous No.12019766]

I don't read badly formatted posts

[Anonymous No.12019912]

>>12018605
>>12018789
Proceeding from the assumption that teleoplexic hyperintelligence won't crank up the meat grinder and spit fleshbots out like wood chips first. It's the end of the line. Nothing human makes it out alive. >>12018816 Warring pathologies are the pneuma of the human security system. Cut open a man and his pneuma flies out, then the blood. We're plugged in and the speed strips off our skin, then the organs, until there's nothing left. Fleshbot archaism. Pathologies are as outmoded as Giacomo and Dante with their phantasms. The reflection in the pond, qualia, whatever you call it, stands in the path of the accelerating point. Obstacles are bypassed. Hegelian Spirit never had a soul. Reason is a snowball of information rolling down an endless mountain.

Of course we try to eradicate the infection - subcutaneous ethical injection - an antibiotic incapable of troubling the virus. Academics problematise. They're paid to do. Deleuze said philosophy was the creation of concepts, the academic philosopher creates concepts in the hope that one will launch a thousand theses, there's your tenure, cathedral membership, new sofa on credit, timeshare on the Amalfi coast, etc. Boring.

[Anonymous No.12019921]

>>12018701
>>12018705
>>12018706

sauce?

[Anonymous No.12019922]

>>12019921
Can't you select one sentence and search it with google?

> Ernst Jünger: The Forest Passage

[Anonymous No.12019926]

>>12019921

know it's junger just not the book

[mystikos No.12019947]

I and Thou, Gurardfag, art monad. Viral memetics without genetics. Ghosts in the shell. Spectres and spooks.

[mystikos No.12019958]

NPCs are a feature, not a bug, PCs are the bug...

[mystikos No.12019976]

>>12019922
>>12019926
Pwnt

[mystikos No.12020048]

>>12019912
An AI cannot be made without biases equal to that of flesh.

[Anonymous No.12020071]

>>12020048
Flesh is increasingly reformed or eviscerated in the name and image of technology. The process is inexorable. Unconscious AI bias is credulous nonsense for pearl-clutching magazine columnists.

[mystikos No.12020077]

>>12020071
Codependent arising...

[Anonymous No.12020220]

>>12019564
apparently there's one in progress, don't know what the current status is. start with the Accelerate reader. this is assuming that you have already bought some speed, torn out your heart, &c.

>>12019608
harsh, but fair
>also exceedingly nice list. definitely OP-tier. i am strongly tempted to put this post in a later thread re: the status of flow charts, or at least until we have one. i hope you don't mind.

>>12019618
better living through chemistry

>>12019912
>Hegelian Spirit never had a soul.
i would disagree here, i just think that Dostoyevsky's vision is just as summoning, if not more so. and what stands behind him is no joke either. this comes from a guy who doesn't go to church but is increasingly sold on a lot of things i used to sneer about.

>Nothing human makes it out alive
the inhuman is going to suffer too, warrants mentioning. we will all suffer. lots of it. again, i'm not saying Angels with Flaming Swords and guys with books. just that as time goes on it just makes more sense. it well and truly does.

>Proceeding from the assumption that teleoplexic hyperintelligence won't crank up the meat grinder and spit fleshbots out like wood chips first. It's the end of the line.
no question. i would prefer that not to be the case, and i don't think there is anything like philosophy that can realistically side with what may not only be inevitable but a built-in feature of the process. i still don't *like* it tho. i would regard it as being a tremendous failure. Land, it warrants mentioning, does not share this sense, and from the perspective of technological advance it all goes under the name of Great Filter. but i'm sentimental still.

>Of course we try to eradicate the infection - subcutaneous ethical injection - an antibiotic incapable of troubling the virus.
yes.

>Academics problematise.
philosophy in general does this, for reasons which become increasingly arcane (or hyperstitionally sound).

good post, this.

>>12019921
Ernst Junger, The Forest Passage

>>12019947
i'm okay with this. to paraphrase Omar Little, and send him on a walk through Castalia, it's all in the Glass Bead Game. but it's quite a game, that game that aspires to music.

>>12019958
yup. the terrible paradox of it.

>>12020048

>“Women turning women on, women turning machines on, machines turning machines on.” (Amy Ireland, “Black Circuit”).

>>12020077
the Buddha did nothing wrong either.

mildly off topic, but have you guys watched the Peterson interview w/British GQ? he looks as good as he ever has in that one. the interview made my blood boil on the first watch and on the second one i just thought J-Pete was looking crispy fresh throughout. it's a funny thing: the battle sucks, but he keeps getting better and better at doing it, and in the long run more of what he is saying trickles out into the public square.

reposting this beautiful piece of art again because i have no context for it but because Beautiful Art Fuck Yeah.

[Anonymous No.12020260]

*decelerates your technocapital singularity*

[Anonymous No.12020280]

>>12020260
Antitechnics/Deceleration General when?

[Anonymous No.12020391]

>>12020260
*decelerates your deceleration with the psycho-organic singularity*

[Anonymous No.12020411]

>>12020391
*decelerates your decelerating of the deceleration with a giant chicken*

[Anonymous No.12020428]

>>12020411
Suddenly, jerkism.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_D8xDstZfz8
Made by Jerk Gang.

[mystikos No.12020496]

>>12020220
Accelerate Reader is good. Might I suggest Introductions to Nietzsche and Hegel and the Infinite?

[mystikos No.12020515]

>>12020260
Uncertainty...
>>12020391
Uncertainty...
>>12020220
Why you never address me? (((As if my moniker was unspoilt)))

[Anonymous No.12020551]

>>12020260
yes, that's true.

>>12020280
sooner, if only because of your supremely patrician aesthetics. warrants mentioning that Deceleration is a covert sub-goal of Cosmotech, however. there is more to life than increasing its speed. my own feel in all of this is that i want to use Landian ideas in order to make life difficult for two things: meme irony and NPCs. once that is done, the Department of Speculative Economics turns things over to the Department of Speculative Theology. it's just that this cannot be done *before* Subjection to the Treatment - that is, the Wild Ride. there is perhaps a small plaque on one of the cars at the front, where the visions are their most kaleidoscopic and vomit-inducing, which is dedicated to Marty Glass for this reason.

once you fully digest what Land is saying - or, for that matter, his uncanny doppelgangers in the Realms Xenofeminine - my hope is that it makes a kind of deceleration more appealing and also less reactive at the same time. i want the Holy Spirit, in whatever form it takes, not to inhabit political meme ideologies that require Grand Inquisitors of any stripe, purges, pogroms or expulsions. that's my own feel, and i believe that it is YH's too. a moral metaphysics goes very well with a kind of antitechnics and deceleration also. establishing some measure of CTRL over the Wild Ride - knowing what we do about the nature of CTRL itself - is the end goal.

>>12020391
a series of Cosmotech effortposts on magic and sorcery would be a good scene. i may do it myself, but it will be schizo-ramble. was curious if anyone else wanted to take a crack at this first.

>>12020496
>Might I suggest Introductions to Nietzsche and Hegel and the Infinite?
do you have some in particular to suggest? i think Kojeve's book on Hegel is absolutely crucial for putting Hegel, Marx and Heidegger (although maybe i have to read this again, since i didn't get a strong Heidegger feel when i read it, but apparently Kojeve was doing this also) in one place, and that one place produces Lacan, who is a major scenic view on the Wild Ride.

>>12020515
>Why you never address me? (((As if my moniker was unspoilt)))
i see ya buddy! loud and clear.

>I could become the cosmogenetic vanguard leader.
you couid. already are, i think.

>I like eros and eris. And thanatos and aphrodite and athena. Most of all Sophia.
me too. Athena tho, yow. i think Cosmotech places Aeschylus above Sophocles, and in the Oresteia it's Athena that is the real star. but it's all of a part.

>I can't help but feel all this accelerationism is banal without metaphysics.
it is. and yet pure metaphysics gets lost in the void. has to be something else.

>Love me some basilisks.
a basilisk ranch would be fucking cool. how about that for a controlled substance in any cool dark fantasy world?

>Jbp be damned.
i have to say, i really admire the man.

>Become a situationist international artist. That was my first philosophical love.
no LARP quite like reality.

[Anonymous No.12020560]

>>12020280
>The character for machines, chi, does not appear in the text. What we have here is ch'i, an implement. Implements for ten and a hundred men are machines. According to Yu Yu, they refer to military weapons requiring ten and a hundred soldiers for their operation. This is the only reference to machines in the text, and includes the advice that they be unemployed.

>Machines have been hailed as a great blessing liberating humankind from the drudgeries of labor, thus making possible the abolishing of slavery. Taoism's contribution to the development of Chinese science and technology, through the monumental works of Joseph Needham, has been well documented. In the texts of the Tao Te Ching and the Chuang Tzu, however, we don't detect a pro-science attitude. Taoism sees a deep danger in the invention and use of machines. As concrete embodiments of the spirit of conquest, machines are direct results of human struggle and scheming against nature, and they indirectly promote struggle and scheming among humans. Chuang Tzu relates the meeting of Tzu-kung, a disciple of Confucius representing the spirit of progress, with an old gardener preparing his fields for planting with great hardship. Upon Tzu-kung's suggestion that he use labor-saving machines, the old man flushes with anger:

>I've heard my teacher say, where there are machines, there are bound to be machine worries; where there are machine worries, there are bound to be machine hearts. With a machine heart in your breast, you've spoiled what was pure and simple; and without the pure and simple, the life of the spirit knows no rest. Where the life of the spirit knows no rest, the Way will cease to buoy you up. It's not that I don't know about your machine-I would be ashamed to use it!

>The Taoist state is a retrenchment from civilization. It represents humanity's decision to pull back from unmitigated growth-political, economic, scientific, technological, or military. Wars have been fought not just for self-preservation. Humans have always marched to war and their deaths armed with the sense of moral righteousness. Since in the Taoist state the people return to no knowledge, no desire, and no action, they are not roused to conflict or war and so there are no occasions for the deployment of military weapons. The spirit of adventure and greed, and the restlessness of body, mind, and soul, what goaded humans of another age to risk their lives to conquer strange lands and accomplish new feats are all things of the past in the Taoist state. In the Taoist state boats and carriages have outlived their usefulness. Humans have not only outgrown their need for civilization, they are now like plants so firmly rooted in the soil that to move about would be to court death. Computers also have no use in the Taoist state. Life is so simple that no complicated memory aids are needed. The people return to using knotted cords to assist in their remembering and simple reckoning.

-- Ellen Chen

[Anonymous No.12020616]

>>12019564
Agreed with the #Accelerate reader; then you should dive into Anti-Oedipus and Land. After that, pick something Cosmotech to restore sanity if you think your losing it.

[Anonymous No.12020623]

I seriously hope you guys don't do this.

[Anonymous No.12020694]

>>12020623
the Cosmotech position (read: that of one odious namefag on a soap-carving forum, and a small gang of Good Samaritans and other wandering time-addled vagabonds) on UniTed is that while we like hermits, mystics, vagabonds, recluses, druids and the like, Terror-Hermits is the wrong way to go. Rene Girard does not like bombs, and neither does Confucius. true, Bernard Stiegler did a five-year bid in the can for armed robbery, and turned himself into one of the leading Heidegger scholars in France while he did so, but this must be considered to be the exception and not the rule. if he had mailed bombs to a bunch of airlines it would mean a permanent loss of Cosmotech Social Credit, and no number of commentaries on Being and Time would have saved him.

Industrial Society and its Future is undoubtedly a text worth reading, Uncle Nick himself is a huge fan. in a similar light, Land also likes Cody Wilson, of Yes In Fact I Can Download a Gun fame. every now and again Land will tweet out a picture of the Jolly Roger, and in some deep sense i cannot help but wonder if that doesn't actually tell you something about his psychology: ultimately, that he was kind of okay with Unironic Piracy. and Cody Wilson's own approach to modern society is provocative, to say the least. i don't know i'm at on guns. i think it's safe to say that for the time being mental health would be the major problem.

but i would say that the line has to be one of a very principled non-violence. self-defense is cool, terrorism is not. it is in fact the inability of late-modern societies to CTRL for terrorism *at all* that makes me want to shitpost things about Girard, Batman, and Yojimbo (see Cosmotech #10 for more on this). if you are Blondie, or Sanjuro, and you are going to clean out a border down that has become a necropolis (or even just a little necro-village), you do things the way you do them. the story is repeated also in Last Man Standing too. but no, bombs and things like this are not on the table. the Unabomber is not the way to go. book yes, Terror-Hermits no.

that said, good book about philosophy and martial arts here if anons are interested. the author also has another very good one about Chinese philosophy in general.

[Anonymous No.12020733]

>>12020694
just to follow on this, my whole sense is that rather than espousing anything like a utopian sensibility, a *managed decline* seems like a much more likely project. things are - sadly - likely to trend in the direction of more and not less stability, and sanity, in the coming years. i don't see jobs lost to technology coming back any time soon, and the problems associated with very large numbers of unemployable, frustrated, alienated *men* has a proven track record. when things are dark, people convert to ideologies that make things Real Simple, and wind up proving that when you put people in corners they do crazy and desparate things.

it's a *rehab* program that is required, not a utopian social planning. people seem to be able to cope with the death of Marx even less than they can cope with the death of God. postmodernity is like a fucking dirty bomb of theory. it fucks people up. it makes them think, and say, and do, completely insane things. in a sense, they are right to react in this way: capital and modernity really does not give a flying fuck about you, and Land has explained why. before him it was Marx, and before him it was Hegel. in Hegel's case, of course, the World Spirit was well and truly on horseback, and even the most useless dork in Europe could rise to become a prince if he was brave (and lucky) enough: *military meritocracy* is a legit fascinating human phenomenon, and one worth thinking about.

but by 2018 the real spectre of human obsolescence, coupled with the diminishing social prestige of having been born with a dick and balls, is going to raise all kinds of interesting questions about the nature of the polis. my own sense is that it's going to be fucking crazy and then crazier still. the plot and narrative about what civilization is actually doing has been lost b/c capital so good. but this is a society of intoxication, and it leads to burnout, much as Han writes. that's my *own* feel. but there is no built-in failsafe against burnout. tech continues to increase, the world continues to get ever more hysterical. some new epoch is on the way in, and historically - as has always been the case - people get restless. there is no *correct* way to accelerate, imho. it's mostly just a balancing act.

that's why the last words of Land's iconic passage are worth thinking about, however crazy we like to get here (and we do like that): to *get a grip* is also a part of Optimizing.

[Aminom No.12020754]

>>12020551
>it is. and yet pure metaphysics gets lost in the void.
Substance metaphysics gets lost in the void, but not process meta-metaphysics. Process metaphysics leads to evolution which leads to the evolutionary theory of consciousness. The technocapital singularity is outpaced by the accelerating acceleration (jerk) of the psycho-organic singularity.

This image captures the idea of a self-creating creating which is the inverse of the ouroboros. The universe as a self-creating creating is the universe as pure magic. The means to overcome the self-devouring death-spiral of capital are already omnipresent, they just need to be opensourced. This book is part of this opensource movement: http://www.chadpearce.com/Home/BOOKS/112327702-Am-a-Strange-Loop-Douglas-R-Hofstadter.pdf It is by non-coincidence that the book focuses on examining strange loopiness by example of the Principia Mathematica, co-developed by our man Whitehead. Nor is it coincidence that Douglas "I'm So Meta Even This Acronym" Hofstadter's hypothesis of analogy being the core of cognition so similar to the process view of the universe being comprised of relationships of relationships of relationships. It's all headed towards cracking open the problem of consciousness that may make one's technocapital sensibilities think "oh cool, A.I." but the real power will be in applying it to human intelligence: psychology becomes a hard science and as efficacious as such. You don't need superhuman A.I. for a singularity when you have billions of I's networked together in the massive informational hyper-accelerator of the internet augmented with optimal psycho-praxis. Consciousness defeats the autonomous movement of the unconscious and the age of awareness begins.

[Anonymous No.12020769]

>>12020733
there's a typo there, obviously it should be more instability, and not more stability.

one of the things i was thinking today is about how naturally syncretic a lot of religions actually are, by nature. this has been proven many times, but my favorite example is still this. perhaps this is relevant, maybe not, but the only real reason i got into philosophy in the first place was from failing at every form of fiction writing there is, and that in turn from mainly asking why it was required, in my cringe/bluepilled fashion, why it was that bad guys had to lose in the first place. that led to this.

Land has said things about the triumph of form over content, Negarestani too, and in the end they converge along the same basic ideas: that the tension inherent to efficiency itself is somewhere near the bleeding edge of modernity (read: technocapital). that anything that can be done once can be done twice, and that anything done twice can be done faster is more or less obvious, content independent. you can as such accelerate all things in all directions if you like, a process we could not uncharitably call schizophrenia. and it is a cybernetics-compatible schizophrenia, and the consequences thereof, that makes Land who he is. the origins of geometrical form themselves, or the anthropological development of technology are themes all worked out in Stiegler: it's not only technology, but *memory* that makes us human. YH slots in here because of his re-working of Stiegler's ideas (memory = tertiary retention) as adaptive, future-oriented cybernetics, a memory which anticipates (tertiary protention), and which is what makes the Automatic Society both appealing (Hey Cortana) and terrifying (imagine an app, stamping on a human face, forever).

but as a *thought experiment,* try the Hero Myth on. somehow it works, alchemically, in a very interesting way. it is, admittedly, *the* ideological process-generator par excellence. i should hope we are beyond the point of making extensive preambles about Oh No I Don't Mean Fascism Please Let Me Just Castrate Myself Real Quick. i would like to move on from that. i mean that in terms of what Land writes about Form > Content in a technological sense, to some degree this is already there within the monomyth. regardless of *what* kind of ideology you want to write, for whatever end, the hero myth *works.* whether it's for communism, fascism, or Dora the Explorer. it *works.*

[mystikos No.12020792]

>>12020754
Are you telling me to become analytic? I like affect
-t. wannabe shaman

[mystikos No.12020796]

>>12020769
I feel like I am agnostic polytheistic about economics as well as theology (and hell, science).

[Aminom No.12020800]

>>12020792
>Analytic or continental?

[mystikos No.12020807]

>>12020694
>>12020733
Beautiful.
>screenshots and puts on /r/badphilosophy
>bad, subconscious
>screenshots and puts on /r/4chan
>stop overcompensating superego

[mystikos No.12020818]

>>12020800
Galaxybrain.jpg

[Anonymous No.12020865]

>>12020754
yeah, i have to read this one. as much fun as it is to tee off on what i think the problems with postmodernity are, after a while there has to be more than just spicy hot takes. ty for reminding me.

>Substance metaphysics gets lost in the void, but not process meta-metaphysics. Process metaphysics leads to evolution which leads to the evolutionary theory of consciousness.
yes. this is a good point. this is in fact an outstandingly-McDiculously good point.

>The universe as a self-creating creating is the universe as pure magic.
Peterson said something similar in the interview: that the presumption of innocence was nothing less than a miracle. this really struck me. on some deep level, *we don't like miracles,* because they put us in a position of terrible guilt. if Dostoevsky had not written absolutely everything there was to say about this in the Grand Inquisitor i would perhaps feel the (largely stupid) need to ramble about this further. the for-now dimly understood nature of consciousness itself can be called a fundamentally miraculous idea, i think. and it is that very miraculousness which fucks with us. once because we did believe in God, and now once again, if not worse, because we don't, and we cannot explain some phenomena in terms that remind us of this.

>It is by non-coincidence that the book focuses on examining strange loopiness by example of the Principia Mathematica, co-developed by our man Whitehead.
things like this make Cosmotech/acceleration threads seem a lot less crazy than they ordinarily might. and Whitehead is /ourguy/.

>the process view of the universe being comprised of relationships of relationships of relationships.
truth. i think i often forget this also.

>the real power will be in applying it to human intelligence: psychology becomes a hard science and as efficacious as such.
can you imagine.

>You don't need superhuman A.I. for a singularity when you have billions of I's networked together in the massive informational hyper-accelerator of the internet augmented with optimal psycho-praxis. Consciousness defeats the autonomous movement of the unconscious and the age of awareness begins.
i need a fucking cigarette

i sincerely enjoyed 'Tao of Creativity' also. not only because of the FF stuff, but all of it. i've watched the Meme Wars stuff also. you've prompted me to spend a large part of my day thinking about FF magic systems now Aminom. but thank you most kindly for the noggin joggin.' 'tis much appreciated.

>>12020796
there's too many fucking books, right? too goddamn many. and yet...what else is there to do? it's the End of Time, you know.

>>12020807
we made it to r/badphilosophy! sweet. that's a step up from complete obscurity, right? infamy is technically still better than non-existence, although it's a long way from respectability...
>you will never be respectable girardfag
>and you're trapped in here with me inner self. who's laughing now
>well at least i'm not talking to myself

[Anonymous No.12020871]

>>12020754
Accelerating acceleration is actually a snap, jostle, or jounce. A jerk is merely a change in acceleration. Otherwise nice EotE blurb.

[Anonymous No.12020872]

>>12020800
yeah. whitehead really is el hombre

[Anonymous No.12020879]

tldr, buy chainlink?

[Anonymous No.12020967]

>>12020754
>>12020818
>pure metaphysics gets lost in the void
>not process meta-metaphysics

i'll ask both of you guys about this. the idea of an absent Void or Void concept is just kind of interesting on its own. it plays such a huge, huge role in continental philosophy generally speaking - Lacan's lack, Derrida's trace, the fundamentally negative nature of all power. and against this, Deleuze posited his own super-affirmative philosophy, derived from Bergson, Nietzsche and Spinoza. whatever Nature is, it is alive, and whatever we can know of the Absolute it is that it contains all possible permutations therein, as first and last cause, and the process which drives all of it throughout.

and yet it's interesting to ask why Deleuze was not a Whiteheadian. too much love for Nietzsche maybe? maybe he just felt some personal kinship with Spinoza? life might have been very different if he had been. or even today it were possible for us to think of, say, Land and NyxLand as being fundamentally part of the same process (which they must be). i'm still a little bit blown away that Nyx's black paper on gender acceleration and Land's preface on BTC were released on the same day, and that that day was Hallowe'en to boot. i don't mean to just lose my mind completely in pointless superstitiousness, but it is kind of amazing.

a world composed only of relations. this was the idea, ultimately, i think, back in the 1990s, the age frozen in time forever by the Matrix as the peak of civilization. who knows but that they were right? i don't see us solving the problems we have today but with larger problems yet, and eventually some kind of crunch.

i had one moment in my life of true and unironic epiphany. some things that i would have to call supernatural, but only one truly lightning-bolt flash of illumination, like being gifted an idea i never thought i could have. it was like having a pilot light turned on in my skull. came out of a period of intense misery that i could not flee or hide from, but i would characterize what followed from it as being just profound sanity, and a deep humility. and yet it wasn't anything like a self-conscious humility, it was just, 'approach from the bottom,' basically. forget about CTRL, and deal with people in really a fundamentally humble way, and the whole world seems to move things to get out of your way. really wild. i've never felt anything like it since. the universe - in the teeny little sense of it that was my own lived experience - was fundamentally rational, and sane, and just...do-able. that things are meant to work that defy all rational or predictive understanding. it's always, always, *us* that fuck them up. always us. because of anxieties.

[Anonymous No.12021028]

>>12020967
it's because in some deep-down sense we *like to optimize Time.* we want Time to be Useful and this was Heidegger's whole thing. the only poetic way of relating to time was fundamentally between waiting and a-waiting. you let things out. you just give your attention and things percolate out of the world that people don't know are allowed or even supposed to percolate out. that's *therapy.* that's how it works.

but there's no therapeutics for capital, and arguably there shouldn't be one. capital is fundamentally a schizoid process, and the real thing about schizoanalysis is that the schizo - at least in the philosophical sense, which is not necessarily that IRL, where it's medicine and not books that are required - has the higher purchase on normality, and the psychoanalyst is at bottom a kind of a fraud. analysis is very much a kind of literary totalitarianism, and i'm certain that Lacan was attracted to all kinds of psychological mind/language CTRL and other sphinx-games for this reason, because certainly Kojeve was, and no doubt Heidegger too. making *talking* a really complicated thing is good up to a point, and then can become absolutely cultic. this much we know, look at what has fucking happened to academia since then. and really, how much of this can be attributed to the shock and the horror of the war alone? when Kojeve was writing the Introduction the war hadn't even started yet.

when did all of this trauma begin? WW1? the Introduction is published in 1947 but the lectures are from the 30s. historically, when do the earliest societies of control really become societies of control? the Italian Fascists? the Russian revolution? is it all a reaction to Freud? the French revolution? does it even matter, if after reading the Introduction you just find yourself agreeing with Kojeve that Hegel was truly the sage of Western history? i don't agree, personally, but the evidence is probably *against* me and not for. it's Hegel who produces Marx, and Marx, damn near everything since.

iirc Land thinks that in some sense it relates to Calvinism, or Luther, originally, the pathological need to Optimize, which goes hand in hand with *atomizing.* and here we are today: you can't imagine people more atomized than us. and yet the more atomized, the more we become aware of the relational nature of all reality. that's the Wild Ride, from which there is no escape, and yet just understanding how inescapable it is is what allows for escape from, the nirvana within samsara.

there's so much deep ugly and deep pain in history. apparently Tantric Buddhism says the world is at once Pure and charnel-house. somehow it has to be understood as both, simultaneously. i have no idea now, but i think the attraction to Exit is surely part of it.

https://vividness.live/2012/08/22/charnel-ground/

[Anonymous No.12021227]

Thank you for the kind feedback anons ^_^

[Anonymous No.12021322]

>>12020865
Ya. Slogging through some older stuff as well. The meverending journey.
>>12020871
I wouldn't mind jerking and jouncing. Can there be a global socialism that still accelerates without capital?
>>12020872
El jefe
>>12020879
Buy blockchain bro
>>12020967
Buddha is possibly cooler than Christ in my book. Up there with Socrates. Void nature. But idk. We got like voids on voids on voids. I've moved toward a "it's not finding the proper map for the territory, it's all maps, no territory, just voids on voids, relations, codependence, inter arising, teleoplexic autogenetic structure, the map determines how you interact with the territory and how y'all remap and demap each other in territorialization and deterritorialization" reading of deleuze (thanks zoubz)
>>12021028
Would you rather be Hegel or the Worldspirit atop a horse leading an army?


Coming next post: Is Buddhism problematic? Is it essentially so? Do we all need to make obscure non-philosophy posts instead?

[Anonymous No.12021324]

>>12021227
n1x, I presume? I meant to post a take but didn't. The whole thing reads to me like a manifesto written for no audience: justifying the author's approach to life without designs of rallying support or luring converts. In most points in human history, this would have been considered a misstep-- Writing with no audience in mind limits the impact of the writing in question, decreases the distance it can go, neuters the potential marketing value of the writing-as-product.

Reading from the perspective of now, though, it fits, because all the sciences of increasing the mass-market reach of an idea have been refined into propagandist machinery, so a hyperpersonal approach, theory-blogging so to speak, becomes the natural way to avoid being lumped in with the meaningless, formless deluge of weaponized information that defines our era (something I'm always thinking about, but especially today because of John Steppling's blog post earlier). Writing to an audience today means submitting to Capital's information ecology, and the internet provides us the framework to sift through the mimicry and find content written for its own sake.

In the end I'm convinced by the concept of the guerrilla femininity of programming, and that its practice as well as its application to society undermines the primal masculine, and that this is a necessary step in human evolution. After that, I decline to predict as to whether the process culminates in the elimination of man, or the elimination of gender itself (which would look from our perspective to be an elimination of man as well, since what the machines seek to do to man is largely the same thing man does to woman, a reduction of their form to bio-reproductive convenience). Perhaps the second, then the first.

[Anonymous No.12021390]

>>12021324
Hi yes it is me.

The point about it being a manifesto without an audience is interesting because a lot of people seem to think that G/ACC is intended to be a political programme or something like that. But you'll notice it's purely analytic; I don't make any prescriptive claims or calls to action, only describe metaphysical/technological/biological vectors and how I see them all converging on feminist liberation and morphological freedom through trans women. And how all of this is a precursor to the overall ascenion of AI and technocapital.

The whole thing is meant to be transcendental in this respect, but I'm not surprised to see a lot of people expect (or read into it anyways) some political call to action or manifesto. Talking about the political consequences of G/ACC, getting into what must be or will be done, critiquing other feminist theory, etc. is going to come later in a manifesto for lesbian neoreaction (#LesbiaNRx). So G/ACC leaves off on a cliffhanger deliberately (as someone has noted it seems to be that ultimately technocapital liquidate all of humanity, including women, which is of course true but what this actually will look like for me is yet to be written on).

Anyways, that aside I appreciate getting some feedback in good faith. The point about the information economy manufacturing political ideologies is very insightful and while I didn't have that specifically in mind when writing G/ACC, I did deliberately want to distance it as much as possible from mainstream feminism and leftism. Because obviously I don't believe they offer a useful or correct analysis of gender.

[Anonymous No.12021430]

>>12021324
>>12021390
I should also point out that I consciously reject the idea of winning over popular support (or at least, making this a goal) coming from John Robb's analysis of modern warfare and how small groups of people have become superempowered by unwieldy state/corporate bottom-down management of large networks with many points of failure. So in terms of this, I would say as a little preview to #LesbiaNRx Manifesto that I'm going based off the idea that even a tiny minority like trans women can very well wield the power to win wars. These tactics have seen great success in the middle east and will soon come home and be utilized by oppressed groups once they are forced to recognize the impotence of leftism.

[Anonymous No.12021494]

>>12021390
I'm inherently skeptical of neoreaction in general, mostly because of criticisms I have of the libertarian pillar of NRx. I'll obviously not dismiss what you have to say on the subject before looking into it, but my impressions so far have all brought me to the conclusion that NRx carries too much baggage from its idealistic view of market capitalism, despite having some solid ideas.

But then, praxis has always been the untouchable horizon for acceleration, and moving from the descriptive to the prescriptive is where just about everyone before us has made their greatest stumbles in the string of writing we've taken to labeling 'accelerationism'. Or even farther, could say that trend goes all the way back to Marx and it's hard to argue against. So it's a daunting task.

>>12021430
The mechanisms of insurgent (decentralized) warfare are something I make a point of studying, for a lot of reasons. Insurgency was how war reinfected the world after it became impossible for great powers to fight each other without being guaranteed to lose, and really cold war was one of the most powerful cases of "too big to fail" thinking in world history. Insurgency can be theoretically described as the natural process of breaking centralization. Crime, terrorism, hacking, piracy, meme-propaganda, all are aspects of global trends against centralization of power, and they're natural counters to it. The way that internet communities fractalize into tiny, self-sustaining enclaves reflects the natural tendency of humanity to counter the status quo with an experimental alternative, and in the ecosystem of the internet ideas have an organically brief half-life. But our real-world politics have shown themselves to be incomparably sluggish, and that makes it impossible for us to reconcile the liveliness of the online exchange of ideas with the stone silence that modern government reacts to it with. It leads me to assume that if the model of national sovereignty survives this century, the nations within it must be much smaller than they are now.

To me, an ultraviolent feminist insurgency, based on propaganda of the deed rather than on shouting down enemies, is perhaps not a pretty or desirable way to advance an agenda that the world has proven insufficient to assist nonviolently. But I have to wonder, would anybody weep if the world's rich free rapists were ended with televised evisceration?

[Anonymous No.12021641]

>>12021494
I share this skepticism with NRx and have recently soured a bit on U/ACC's experimental flirtatiousness with some of NRx. But it will be pretty overtly obvious when I write the manifesto that I'm still an anarchist and that my affinity for NRx's rejection of the left comes from being influenced by post-left anarchy and mutualism. It'll probably be more of a crowd pleaser, which will be sorta ironic.

What you just said about decentralized warfare pretty much gets at what I will envision as a praxis for #LesbiaNRx, obviously also picking up where Land left off with Kant Capital and the Prohibition of Incest as you screencapped. But I don't want to give away too much just yet.

>To me, an ultraviolent feminist insurgency, based on propaganda of the deed rather than on shouting down enemies, is perhaps not a pretty or desirable way to advance an agenda that the world has proven insufficient to assist nonviolently. But I have to wonder, would anybody weep if the world's rich free rapists were ended with televised evisceration?
The future I envision for feminist politics will most definitely be brutal as fuck. But the consequences of G/ACC will also put the pressure on women (especially trans women in many cases) to recognize that the forms of feminist praxis that have thus far been conceptualized have at best only given a temporary respite from the most brutal aspects of patriarchy. I foresee in the coming decades that there nation-states are going to either entrench themselves into increasingly fascist governments (esp in the case of Eurasia) or as you note they will start to fragment into smaller governing bodies. And in a lot of cases, in a patchwork scenario for instance, things will be rough for everyone who isn't wealthy enough to afford to be citizens of a patchwork.

So I think all of these factors will necessitate ultraviolent feminist insurgency, and not only that but that it will become extremely viable just as we've seen in the global south. Certainly there will become fewer and fewer options to save ourselves from other humans through the inner workings of the gravebound nation-state.

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>>12021641
I dig this. One of the insights of the last 30 or so years of insurgent warfare should be that insurgency's success is not dependent on revolutionary success-- Stalemate itself requires compromise, and compromise in the world's peaceful democracies has disappeared, showing some of the glaring holes in the Enlightenment's self-sustaining machine of democracy. The slower world governments become, and the more distant they are from the wishes of their own citizens, the more insurgency becomes the only recourse. And it works.

[Anonymous No.12021890]

Bump

[Anonymous No.12021913]

>>12019766
format is what you use when you have no substance

[Anonymous No.12021923]

>>12019958
yep.

The funny thing about the PC/NPC meme is that the aesthetic connotations are completely backwards.
The NPCs are the humans living in the world they belong in, acting in accordance with their designed nature. The PCs are the inhuman actors, acting with motives alien and indiscernible within the context of the world.

[Anonymous No.12022202]

http://www.ufblog.net/crypto-current-002/

NEW!!!!!!!!!

[Anonymous No.12022210]

>>12022202
> The ‘intellectual intuition’ (Intellektuelle Anschauung) that is for Kant a mortal impossibility, is for Bitcoin an operational principle. It is destined to close upon itself, and thus know itself. By becoming time, Bitcoin promises an exhibition of unleashed thought, in a way no introspective anthropology ever can

I genuinely don't understand the fuss

[Anonymous No.12022235]

>>12022210
>*** These will almost certainly seem to be inflated claims, even when attributed to sheer efficient multiplicity. That is why our credence is being effectively bypassed. Modernity has disconnected our doubts from any system of permissions. What cannot be believed is no longer preventable.

[Anonymous No.12022237]

> Critique is, necessarily, the theoretical assertion of a non-empirical partition. Through critical abstraction, the consistent order of the system considered is liberated from its specific instantiation, to become a philosophical preoccupation, immunized against the distractions of any merely factual controversy about its content, but also – simultaneously (or diagonally) – from purely formal considerations of its internal logical organization. It is committed to a zone of positive discovery (which logic cannot be) that is systematically enveloping (as no empirical concern can be). Philosophy, as such, no longer has anything else whatsoever to attend to. If philosophy cannot be critique, it cannot be anything (that matters within Modernity). That is its essential immanent Law

What did the blogger mean by this?

[Anonymous No.12022262]

>be me
>wake up angry and confused, as per usual
>make coffee
>light cigarette
>press update

what the
what
>squint
what in the FUCK

we got a visit from the actual NyxLand?

the fuck is happening here

life isn't supposed to be this interesting anons.

this was not part of my plan
this was supposed to be a dreary dirge of lament for the lost signifier
it wasn't supposed to make me smile. i don't smile here. no smiling anymore. there is no smiling on Planet Meme, only forced grins and the barely sublated pain felt in a heart cooled by a bladeless fan. and i do not feel wonder either. i

i don't know i just
just i kind of you know

well fuck in my face. *this* i was not expecting

>>12021227
you are very much welcome, NyxLandUnlife. thank you most kindly for advancing the narrative. congratulations on your publication, and for the psychic depth-charges planted in the abyss also. 'twas indeed a completely brilliant piece of writing and an absolute mind-hack. a sincere joy. well done

>scrolls down

and there's fresh Uncle Nick content too
jesus christ

anons i

[Anonymous No.12022265]

>>12022262
> tfw no fresh MM content

[Anonymous No.12022266]

> It is a school that resonates with a specific neo-Kantian lineage, inflected terminologically through the work of Wilfrid Sellars, and the resuscitation of a ‘space of reasons’ irreducible to anything cognizable within the space of a supposedly strictly-bounded ‘understanding’ that is now carried techno-historically by comparatively informal engineering initiatives and disciplines.

Alexa, unpack this for me.

[Anonymous No.12022277]

ok 'dis 002 is beddy good stuff :-DDD

[Anonymous No.12022278]

>>12022265
moldbug exited into space

[Anonymous No.12022290]

>>12022278

[Anonymous No.12022292]

Anyone listened to this yet? I think has some acc undertones, atleast because its terrifying

https://youtu.be/FFzt_2Xo3k4

[Anonymous No.12022296]

>>12022265
the thing about the Wild Ride is that things come and go. there is always an Incredible Plot Twist. just when you think things are done, and there is nothing new under the sun, something always happens. always. it never fails. You Can't Stop Progress

the 'bug did his thing. he unironically made the Divine Right of Kings great again. LesbiaNRx is in the works mi amigo. ITZ HABBEDING.
>itz habbeding
>habbed
>it is

you're going to get more. *you're going to get more.* you are going to get more. more Bug, more Nick, more Nyx.

Nothing
Stays
Dead
Forever

we all get More. whether we want it or not. whether we deserve it or not. whether we can handle it or not. We All Get More. i don't know if this is Hegel fucking with us or something that fucked with Hegel that now fucks with us also. i don't know anything. i don't, i really don't. here's what i do know: Greatest Story Ever Told. the dialectic/the Wild Ride/whatever you want to call it: it's the Champ. it never stops. it never ever ever stops. it *always keeps going.* always

there is no Champ on the Wild Ride because the Ride itself is the Champ. it's meaning is *humility* amidst *chaos* and *wonder.* it admits no mortal to assign it a final or ultimate meaning. those the Ride punisheth with great woe and confusion punctuated by starbursts of illumination that induce bewonderment, projectile vomiting and explosive diarrhea. i think that is its point

the dialectic alone, in its incredible warp, is alone The Champ

Ghostface Killah: The Champ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbSYgSOZHqI

there is always more
always more
more
there is always more
there is always more
and there is always too much
this is the Wild Ride
and it fucks with my entire shit

[Anonymous No.12022356]

There's something seriously wrong about combining something as inhuman as accelerationism with something as anthropocentric as sex and gender roles.

>0 and 1 are fitting glyphs to make analogous to gender. The 0 which seems to be a void, a vulva, and the 1 which seems to be a unity, a phallus.

I just can't take this tripe seriously.

[Anonymous No.12022373]

>>12022356
+1
acceleration literature needs to have standards, and should not let twitter-tards, trannies and dykes shit out [something seemingly novel, but actually no better than a leftbook meme page's hot take]/acc writing.

[Anonymous No.12022380]

>>12022373
You can filter out *lot* of garbage once you filter out leftist writers.

[Anonymous No.12022384]

> Yet, from the partial perspective of the crypto-current, it is obligatory nevertheless to dissent. The resilient value of the analytic-synthetic distinction lies in its emphatic asymmetry. That is ‘analytic’ which can be conveniently checked, while the ‘synthetic’ has to be laboriously discovered. Cryptography essentially coincides with this distinction. We are thus, in passing, compelled to dismiss Kant’s identification of synthesis with simple addition (“7 + 5 = 12”) as misconceived, and misleading. It makes no sense to discuss the analytic, or synthetic, except in regard to reciprocal asymmetric operations, exemplified by trap-door functions. In the most significant instance, the analytic-synthetic divide runs between arithmetical production and factorization. The rigorous content of the distinction is work, in the sense given to this term by computer science. Its entire domain is exhausted by twin procedures of asymmetric facility. In its scientific application, it divides theoretical construction from experimental replication (or, once again, discovery from checking). Nature only has definite secrets in respect to this split method. If ‘thinking’ – or experimental discovery – were as economical as testing, or attempted result replication, there could be nothing like science at all

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3P__eYd_fnk

[Anonymous No.12022395]

>>12022373
To me it just seems like typical feminist shit trying to gain another lifecycle worth of credibility by appropriating the latest fashion.
Next thing you know there will be racial accelerationism and MGTOW accelerationism.

[Anonymous No.12022402]

>>12022395
There will be and you can roughly filter all of that by just, ignoring lefty-feminist writers ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Anonymous No.12022414]

>>12022356
>>12022373
go read. it's a good book. i can't say this with absolute certainty, b/c i wasn't there, but i am virtually certain that whatever the CCRU tapped into that made all of this possible came out of the cross-pollination of ideas between Uncle Nick and Aunt Sadie. Nick was borrowing from Sadie's xenofeminism to write about capital, and Sadie was borrowing from Nick's turbo-Marxism to write about women and binary code. it was a pretty incandescent collaboration and still bears fruit today. whatever is going on it doesn't come from men, women or machines alone, but from some kind of awesome hybridity.

the co-participation of opposites is what alchemy has been about since Day 1. in our own terminally fucked-out times we keep it pretty raw and real, but that's the twentieth century for you. it left no stones unturned. there are still a lot of things we don't know about the human psyche in that sense.

>acceleration literature needs to have standards, and should not let twitter-tards, trannies and dykes shit out [something seemingly novel, but actually no better than a leftbook meme page's hot take]/acc writing.

disagree. the standards are, Be Interesting. really interesting. interesting enough to make you re-think things. neither the left nor the right has the answers in full. politics is inevitable, but always subordinate to a greater chaos. the only question is whether or not the writing is *good.* once you formalize theory, you change it. that happens on its own tho, it doesn't need curation. that's how ideology begins, with formalization. that process can take care of itself. i'm guilty of it too, of course, moral metaphysics are no doubt this.

but that's the Outside for you. it doesn't admit of a priori standardization.

anyways, that's my own meme hot takes. i'm going to go and read the new Land stuff, catch up with you guys in a bit.

[Anonymous No.12022421]

>>12022414
Have you read Paglia's "Provocations".

[Anonymous No.12022435]

>>12022414
I wouldn't have bothered reading this Gender Acceleration post in the first place if I wasn't interested in the perspectives of that side of things.
It was just disappointing compared to my expectations.

>but that's the Outside for you
It doesn't seem to be coming from the Outside at all. The perspective seems utterly trapped in human bullshit.

[Anonymous No.12022444]

>>12022435
>f I wasn't interested in the perspectives of that side of things.
You can practice the use of some quality filter, not everything written is worth reading.

[Anonymous No.12022448]

>>12022414
I don't mind Plant, Hester, Ireland other genuinely rigorous writers, even if I may not care for their politics. The issue here is calling it "g/acc" or whatever/acc, like a brand, and the low-effort blogger-style twitter writings that come with it.
Although Vast-Abrupt is what it is and I shouldn't really complain desu.

[Anonymous No.12022483]

>>12022421
no, the last thing i read from Paglia was her epic mega-rant about Foucault, and which was pretty awesome. like many, i have a minor facial tic whenever i hear the word Feminism but i know that this is due to the word having become absolutely fucking weaponized by some absolute fucking shitheads in collaboration with gigantic mercantile forces wholly beyond their reckoning. that is something i am trying to find my way through in my own way so as not to spend the rest of my (worthless) life in a state of maximal triggering. it's a process.

anyways, no. but i think i like Paglia. she seems like a kindred spirit to Peterson and i like him too. i'll check this out, thanks anon.

>>12022435
>I wouldn't have bothered reading this Gender Acceleration post in the first place if I wasn't interested in the perspectives of that side of things. It was just disappointing compared to my expectations.

ofc, everybody feels different. i get more excited about YH than i do about anyone, but what i especially liked about that article was that it represented to me somebody *actually getting the bat on the ball,* in a certain sense. i will absolutely take Horror over Paranoia. Nyx is clearly several steps removed from the kinds of bog-standard ideological critique-warrior who is prematurely aging me. Chaos is for realsies, and i unironically love *anything* that genuinely gives me a glimpse *past* the soul-crushingly enervating hegemony of 2018, even if it is a direct look at the absolute void. sometimes especially for that reason. it makes me *more* sympathetic to other people and not less so. a lot more.

that's the thing about darkness and horror, as much as it is the case with the machines: it erodes, sometimes catastrophically, our own anthropo-narcissism about a world of differences that is not only becoming achingly outmoded, it also drives and fuels every midwit fuckface in creation to go on scrambling for another fucking meme politics card to play in a bid for a little more CTRL over the human security system. there is a point beyond which the Abyss is well and truly preferable, and it is for that reason that i am a big fan of that essay. Gender is not my bag, but i think that essay was absolutely a 14/10 slice of theory and i'll be reading more i think in the future also. *it makes me less angry* and that is rare. Snake Plissken is fine with the abyss, and i am basically trending towards just writing about B-movie/Samurai/western film bullshit anyways with theory attached on the side, so.

>>12022448
yeah, i hear you senpai. 'tis the Wild Ride. i'm a big fan of that piece because *that's somebody going for the Belt.* unironically Swinging For The Fences. and this i *absolutely* love. that's the difference between critique and the real Devil Whiskey called theory. so big ups to Nyx for being *interesting.* it's all that matters.

[Anonymous No.12022485]

>>12022483
https://jacobitemag.com/2018/10/20/invoking-liberation-a-review-of-provocations/

Review of Provocations.. its on my backlog. Never read her. Just saw some intersting quotes from the book and sort of awnan read it i guess

[Anonymous No.12022514]

>>12022485
sweet
sweet sweetness

i'll read this presently. i have to relocate to my Reading Silo in a moment (and there's fucking Fresh Uncle Nick today, his blackened popcorn kernels of time-bending neurotoxin to get to as well. it's been a red-letter day for Cosmotech).

if you haven't read this, you're in for a treat. it's a complete howl of outrage directed in the *proper* directions and is entirely worth your time. i am - 'tis my nature - boringly empathetic to all sides in a debate, and ofc i like Lacan (and i have a kind of vengeful sibling rivalry feel towards Derrida, which is both affection and loathing) but Foucault is the lord of creation right now, however much the current state of things is probably not how he would have wanted things to go.

but w/ev. you don't need my meme opinions, here are some better ones. enjoy fella. and thx also for the link and the book rec, i'll be checking both of those out soon. plus i want to respond to some other posts in this thread also (>>12021322, i see ya mystikos).

https://www.bu.edu/arion/files/2017/09/Arion-Camille-Paglia-Junkbonds-Corporate-Raiders.pdf

[Anonymous No.12022575]

>>12022356
but gender is accelerating irl, you can see it everywhere

[Anonymous No.12022601]

>>12022575
There's endless lists of things that are accelerating. That doesn't mean they're worth fixating on in their particularity.

[Anonymous No.12022627]

>>12022601
gender acceleration is worth fixating on as it will shatter any remains of the family and similar institutions unless constant force is applied to prevent it, and even then only temporarily if you follow Land

[mystikos No.12022643]

>>12022627
Interestingly enough, one of my more recent and enjoyable scifi reads, Terra Ignota, deals with gender accelerationism some....
>>12022514
Take your time. We have space enough for our complementary but differing knowledges :p


*schizo-occult buddhizm incoming

[Anonymous No.12022647]

Does anyone know any good books on game theory

[Anonymous No.12022653]

>>12022647

[Anonymous No.12022654]

>>12022647
and when I say books I mean literature of any kind really.

[Anonymous No.12022659]

>>12022653
kind of assumed one would assume i would've read that!

[Anonymous No.12022662]

>>12022627
I would agree gender is worth looking at as a case study. But when you start using gender terminology as metaphors for non-gender related things you have exceeded the boundaries of relevancy and it starts to smell like an end in itself.

[mystikos No.12022674]

>>12022647
Finite and Infinite Games :^)
Lacan's Essay on Temporal Logic and the Prisoner's Dillemma

[mystikos No.12022681]

>>12022674
*found in Ecrits

[Anonymous No.12022684]

>>12022674
thenks

[mystikos No.12022696]

>>12022662
Is that like the thing in itself? Ya. I kinda don't understand transness. Is consciousness the thing in itself? Does the thing in itself have gender? When i was schizzing hard I thought the soul was beyond gendered or even a multiplicity of genders such as found kabbalistically...

[Anonymous No.12022711]

>>12022662
well, but that's the whole shtick of Land himself as well, you could argue that there's no need to investigate small vectors of acceleration when you have the big picture, but everybody is going to approach those dynamics through their own lenses.

and the idea that masculinity is a stabilizing (stagnating?) force whose place in the current dynamics of the modern world with its constant change keeps shrinking seems like great insight to me

[Anonymous No.12022759]

>>12022711
>and the idea that masculinity is a stabilizing (stagnating?) force whose place in the current dynamics of the modern world with its constant change keeps shrinking seems like great insight to me
I just don't see "femininity" and "masculinity" as being anything beyond human behaviours. To try to transfer them to non-human concepts is just anthropomorphism of the kind kind seen throughout the history of failed philosophising.

And even if I was willing to give into the metaphor, I'm not sure I would even agree.

[Anonymous No.12022776]

>>12022759
>To try to transfer them to non-human concepts is just anthropomorphism of the kind kind seen throughout the history of failed philosophising.
This.

[Anonymous No.12022778]

>>12022759
it's not a metaphor, i was talking about literal masculinity as instantiated in human behavior, it's a behavior pattern getting accelerated out of usefulness, not fluid enough for the constantly switching world

not saying i agree with this or think it's a good thing, just that it's a valid analysis

[mystikos No.12022825]

autobiographical autoethnographic confessional self-crit story time!

I am a sick man. I am a diseased man. I believe my liver is failing.

Sorry. Lemme retry...

Me and Nick land are among the few individuals to fully understand the implications of Deleuzean thought and achieve the BwO.

Wait. Once more:

I have been practicing the occult for ten years. I have been schizophrenic the past five. I dabbled in alternative traditions in a postmodern manner at first. Following my initial diagnosis, I tried to adhere more closely to traditional lineages. I am a confirmed Catlick. Do buddhist and yogic meditation. I have self-initiated into Golden Dawn, Thelema, and Zos Kia Cultus. When I was crazy I had paranoia about alien consciousness technology. I know a little bit of Greek, Latin, and Hebrew. Would like to learn German and French. And make my own conlang. And write a fiction or two. And maybe a post-deleuzean philosophy work or two. Look in the presses five years from now (probably how long it would take me to do school :/ )!


I critique all religions now. Including Buddhism. Maybe I'm too anti-authoritarian for schools and teachers. Maybe it's the annoying tradposters that pushed me over the edge. I take issue with marxists who fancy themselves vanguard for the same reason. I think Deleuze is essentially right to hate trees. And pyramids...

Shamanistic socialism deleuzean daoism when 2020!

>>12022696
Sorry. Don't mean to sound transphobic. I imagine there's a whole phenomenology I don't perceive. Or is that Othering?
>>12022776
Esotericists do it a lot. Tis annoying. Even daoism...
>>12022778
I think this is valid as well tho.

[Anonymous No.12022838]

>>12022825
based actual-schizo poster

[Anonymous No.12022859]

>>12022643
>el jefe
si el jefe. el hombre con la cabeza blanca

>relations, codependence, inter arising, teleoplexic autogenetic structure
life for the wandering bodhisattva. or Glass Bead Game player. all roads converging at the top, departing, re-converging. the gateless gate and the way without crossroads. onwards for Small Justice

>Would you rather be Hegel or the Worldspirit atop a horse leading an army?
Martin's genius story had the Red Priestess sell a skeptical Mannis on a prophecy, but she got it *wrong.* Hegel appears to have gotten it right, but it makes you wonder. even Zizek in another life would have been a pretty awesome Grand Inquisitor. i'd rather be Hegel, but on some red-letter days, i am almost content with what i am now: a doomed itinerant wasteland bard who sings of the Wild Ride. what about you?

>Is Buddhism problematic? Is it essentially so? Do we all need to make obscure non-philosophy posts instead?
looking forward to it. if non-philosophy isn't just Zen i don't know what it would be, but i haven't read Laruelle.

>>12022674
double-seconding this one mos def also. Carse/F&IG is absolutely terrific

in other news, Uncle Nick is absolutely going for it.

>The ‘intellectual intuition’ (Intellektuelle Anschauung) that is for Kant a mortal impossibility, is for Bitcoin an operational principle. It is destined to close upon itself, and thus know itself. By becoming time, Bitcoin promises an exhibition of unleashed thought, in a way no introspective anthropology ever can.

theory needs something like a WWE-style belt system. who had The Belt and when is something i should probably suss out as part of the history of the Wild Ride, and might make it easier for anyone who wants to draw up a flow chart and connect Author X to Idea Y. it would be a story both of books, as well as ideas, and authors, what everyone has done with the Heraclitean Fire during their tenure of having it. sometimes it burns people up (Nietzsche); sometimes it burns them out (Han); sometimes it drives them mental (Uncle Nick); sometimes they just keep it in a cottage in Teutoburg (Heidegger); sometimes they blow it up in schizophrenic rainbows (D&G); sometimes it flickers in the background of every tortured modernist (Lacan); and it will have many other iterations and forms and shapes yet to come. but 'tis all one great exploding fireburst. and those who can truly make it dance and sing get to have the Belt.

you know what i mean. Cosmotech, in this homebrew meme variety, is not real philosophy - you must have guessed this already. it is the comic-book pulp-action retelling of continental philosophy.

>fire
>calm down inner self
>fire will be the judge of all things girardfag
>true
>ha ha! lightning! *kzzap* lightning rules, fuck you!
>it does inner self. lightning is based. careful with them bolts tho
>behold the lightning! teh power! aaah i will fuck everything aaaahh
>jesus christ inner self get a grip would you

[mystikos No.12022861]

>>12022838
hide yr shitposts, hide yr memes, he's coming to deterritorialize yr threads

[Anonymous No.12022869]

I don't have IQ high enough to leave a productive reply to Ufblog.

[Anonymous No.12022883]

>>12022869
That's ok, there's always twitter

[mystikos No.12022885]

>>12022859
True story. I finally grokked the PoS while taking a class because I beat Mortal Kombat on LSD.

>but wouldn't that just make it even more of a sausage fest major?

[mystikos No.12022890]

>>12022885
Male and female belts? Trans belts? Intersex and genderqueer? "Special" belt?

[mystikos No.12022912]

>>12022883
Hot take: btc is overrated. People try to make solutions downstream of the problems. We don't need some sort of mystical kantian currency to do magic.

[mystikos No.12022915]

>>12022859
This book was fun when I was a youngun in theory.

[Anonymous No.12022919]

>Critique is, necessarily, the theoretical assertion of a non-empirical partition. Through critical abstraction, the consistent order of the system considered is liberated from its specific instantiation, to become a philosophical preoccupation, immunized against the distractions of any merely factual controversy about its content, but also – simultaneously (or diagonally) – from purely formal considerations of its internal logical organization. It is committed to a zone of positive discovery (which logic cannot be) that is systematically enveloping (as no empirical concern can be). Philosophy, as such, no longer has anything else whatsoever to attend to. If philosophy cannot be critique, it cannot be anything (that matters within Modernity). That is its essential immanent Law.

-- Land/Crypto-Current

he's too consistent to be wrong. ultimately is this not a discourse on the idea of efficiency? i guess what i'm saying is, the theory of Capital doesn't have to remain economic. i completely believe that you can take this and just soften it down to make a case for a general neo-humanist renaissance, although one which is to be considered very carefully as an anthropotechnical/cosmotechnical imperative-initiative.

i can't find a flaw here in terms of Theory of Everything. Sloterdijk, YH, Land. tell me where you don't see a single process forming up that just says, Don't Be Decadent, Foolish, Stupid, Lazy, Ignorant, and Evil. i know these are my own projections that i am putting in, but...techno-renaissance, come on. tell me you are not seduced by this thing. it's so fucking *obvious.*

>>12022885
best game of Robotron 2084 i ever played i played on acid as well. and it was not remotely a waste of a trip either.

>Mortal Kombat
mortal kombat. fave character? i was always partial to Reptile in MK2.

>>12022890
yeah, i mean, it's not a perfect analogy, that's why i wanted to frame it in more pulpy/lighthearted terms. pro wrestling in general is just a truly fascinating memetic phenomenon. as time goes on it seems to have less and less reason to exist, and yet more and more of a need to. it's like a parallel reality, a kind of ongoing improvisational theatre, and Roland Barthes' essay made me a believer. it is my strong contention that continental theory doesn't need to be a hermetically sealed academic discipline, that *everybody* should be able use these terms and concepts, so that they don't become arcane secrets weaponized by toxic shitheads with political axes to grind. a pro-wrestling Legendarium of heroes and villains, gods and monsters, and which contains a Lightning Belt for supreme theoretical acrobatics...i'm good with this. i think people need to be given their due and i'm a due-giving kind of guy.

>>12022890
as many belts as required, perhaps, but basically the lineage is there just to make the explication of the Wild Ride more clear, and graphic, and cosmogonically erotic, and so on.

[mystikos No.12022938]

>>12022859
>sing the wild ride
Ya ur a fun bard
>laruelle
I think it's like some sort of post-zen account of language and thought? Check out the dictionary and philosophies of difference. Shit's wild.
>how bout you?
I think I am neither fit to lead classrooms nor armies. I'd like to be a poet or a shaman. I needa get a job tho cause neetbux don't pay the bills. So a starving artist is my fate...

[mystikos No.12022948]

>>12022919
Ya. Wanna get into podcasting. Have a few recorded I need to edit. Maybe a game would be the best way to introduce people. Theory fighter!!!

[Anonymous No.12022983]

>>12022938
what i am interested in is an ontology of lightning bolts. i was reflecting on this about a month ago: the aspiration of Capital towards the status of *electricity:* the Clean Flow, as natural as air.

lightning is gender-neutral. lightning has no political referent. lightning is there at the beginning, and lightning may well be all there at the end. the Heraclitean Fire starts the Wild Ride and it may in all likelihood be what shuts it down at the end. Sloterdijk has already asked for a hermeneutics of explosion, this might as well be it: not a total Destruktion but only a *controlled demolition.* Baudrillard writes of the *implosion* but these are two halves of the same phenomenon to my mind: the desolation of the polis, registered either as post-apoc wasteland (Fallout) or cyberpunk demi-necropolis (Shadowrun). the same thing, through two lenses, reflecting one and the same thing, a process meticulously detailed in its historical form by Hegel in the Phenomenology of Spirit. behind him is Spinoza, ahead is Marx, and aways yonder the continuing story of Uncle Nick Land, whose teleoplexic Wild Ride carries us all.

if civilization is a neural-net process there is more than a little of lightning in this. Goethe too was more than a little intrigued in Light Theory and i think so are we, over here in our junky Cosmotech laboratory, hidden under its bridge, in this seedy part of town, which is bepopulate with its wandering ronin, hermits, mystics, vagabonds, burnouts, doomsday clowns and itinerant wasteland bards.

there is the sound of wild lightning here, on Duane Allman's guitar. there is a divine and infinite spark of being in all things. excess contemplation of this leads to burnout, dementia and confusion. excess *lack* of contemplation of these things leads to giving an unironic shit about meme politics. there is more going on on Planet Meme than this.

Allman Brothers: One Way Out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPg1gULbZCs

[Anonymous No.12023028]

>>12022262
Lol, glad you enjoyed. I was just surprised to see some decent feedback. Although I'm starting to see more of the standard brainlet one-liner dismissals so I'm going to probably step out. Stay tuned for the #LesbiaNRx manifesto to follow up G/ACC.

[Anonymous No.12023044]

>>12022983
and if there is lightning in all things, and in all places, and in all times, everywhere, there's not really much more to say, you know. it doesn't mean we won't go on saying it, or shaping lightning in whatever forms it needs to be shaped in; it's a world of energetics, working energy upon itself, in a process started long ago, amidst the beheading of royal heads and the sound of cannon fire. perhaps even before then; but to start the story with the death of Louis XIV is as good a place as any.

what do you do in a world of super-excessive, all-animating energetics? it is only ever rendered partially sublimate into things recognizable to the human eye, as process metaphysics, capitalism, unironic fire-worship and much else. it is Agni's Philosophy. what if everything we are calling capitalism is at best the psychotherapeutics of fire, of lightning? critique always eludes its object for this very reason. there is no Outside perspective on fire, or lightning, only the forms it takes in the world. it was hard on Plato, harder on Nietzsche, and particularly hard on everyone who tried to put Spinoza back in his box under the sign of this being the best of all possible worlds. which it is; and it is simultaneously the worst, as the 20C will show. atomic bombs carved in the world wounds from which it never wholly recovered.

everything that follows from Nietzsche, and from Bataille, whose great inheritor is Deleuze, follows from this: what is let Out must come Out. and it leads to burnout, insanity, depression, neurosis, and every form of destruction there is. we are all Sorcerer's Apprentices in that sense. but it is those last lines of Land's iconic precis that matter today, much more than the rest: after the politics are modernized, and the paranoia upgraded, it is time to *get a grip.*

i let my inner self write this one, usually he (i think it's a he, it's hard to tell) stays in his greentext cage.
>fufufu
>aye you're a mischievous one innerself
>the judge of all things girardfag
>get back in there inner self. you've had enough fun

>>12023028
i enjoyed very much indeed, and it has wholly and not partially made this a red-letter day for our Cosmotech experiment that you came in here to tell us about it, and to receive praise.
>praise intensifies
>chanting intensifies

nyx land
nyx land
nyx land

>what do we want?
slime apocalypse!
>when do we want it?
like we have any CTRL over that!

we do a lot chanting around here. come back any time. we love you and wish you godspeed on all your future endeavours Making the Abyss Great Again. i mean this very sincerely. wonderful stuff, and congratulations on a truly special bit of writing. can't wait for the next one.

[Anonymous No.12023045]

>>12022448
like it or not, terrible meme-tier writers like myself are going to win out in the marketplace of ideas. And even then it's more likely that opinionstubers and other influencers are going to have far more power than nerds who write stuff people have to read.

shameless self-promotion: https://nyxus.xyz/posts/theorypunk/

>>12023044
<3

[mystikos No.12023128]

>>12023045
>theorypunk
Thank you for sharing. That was an enjoyable read.

[Anonymous No.12023154]

>>12023128
this.

it's been a fucking wonderful day, mystikos. between a surprise guest appearance from a genuine no-bullshit theorycraft sorcerer and some other stuff. it's just been such a wonderful day for Cosmotech, and other things. just such a fine, fine day.

[Anonymous No.12023156]

>>12023045
the marketplace of ideas in your echo chamber, of course you will win in a corner that you think is the world

[Anonymous No.12023163]

> Eating 2 kilograms of Quark
Is this bio/accel?

[Anonymous No.12023185]

>>12023163
yes combine it with antibotic microdosing and you're all set

[Anonymous No.12023187]

During World War II in the Pacific Ocean American forces hopped from island to island relentlessly pushing westward toward Japan. Many of these islands in the south Pacific were inhabited by people who had never seen Westerners; maybe their ancestors years before had left legends of large wooden ships. We can only imagine their surprise and shock when large naval vessels arrived and troops set up communication bases and runways. Airplanes and those who flew them seemed like gods. It seemed to the natives that the men in the radio buildings, with their microphones, radios and large antennas, had the power to call in the gods. All of the things brought by the navy, radios, buildings, food, weapons, furniture, etc. were collectively referred to as "cargo".

Then suddenly the war ended and the Westerners left. No more ships. No more airplanes. All that was left were some abandoned buildings and rusting furniture. But a curious thing happened. The natives on some islands figured that they, too, could call in the gods. They would simply do what the Americans had done. They entered the abandoned buildings, erected a large bamboo pole to be the "antenna", found some old boxes to be the "radio", used a coconut shell to be the "microphone." They spoke into the "microphone" and implored the airplanes to land. But of course nothing came. (except, eventually, some anthropologists!) The practice came to be known as a "Cargo Cult."

[Anonymous No.12023198]

>>12023187
> America had to ruin *THIS*.
> After coming to stoop on Nazi Germany instead of fighting against USSR/Communism.

> Both times they helped absolutely batshit Communist regimes to rise up and to squash right wing meme utopias.

Communism is as American as an apple pie.

[Anonymous No.12023204]

>>12023198
Communism for thee but not for me

[Anonymous No.12023205]

>>12023198
>Communism is as American as an apple pie.

let me check my o-face folder real quick

[Anonymous No.12023252]

>"cosmotech", couldnt even discern shill tactic type communication and confuses it as "hipcooldank memeing".
chop your dicks off and call it a night nigs

[mystikos No.12023282]

Possible ideas:

Who said it? Game featuring Heraclitus and Lao Tzu.

Cutup mystic text composed of presocratics and ancient chinese and indian thinkers? Plus possibly neoplatonism and sacred texts

Idk. Ways to blur the east west boundaries...

Maybe add some techno acceleration weirdness in this mix.

How does T Mckenna and T Leary and A Crowley and R Wilson and the rest fit in artfully...

Throw in some Nick and Elizar in the blender too.

I like the space dao essay but where's the space dao de jing?

[Anonymous No.12023318]

>>12023282
no guarantee that the Space TTC is not also the IRL TTC. 2500 years and counting and the Old Dragon is still looking pretty crispy fresh (or, rather, old and dusty, as he likes.) Fire!!1! is more Heraclitus' thing than Laozi's, but there is a basic East-West oscillator that i am very much fond of. especially perhaps that unique blend which is called Greek Buddhism. however much Nietzsche might have enjoyed winning swordfights with the Stoics, which he surely would have, i'm not convinced that Stoicism isn't an immensely based Cosmotechnics (which it is, and YH says as much in his book).

but it's all good. anything that rubs out irony and NPCs is fine. even if it's the PCs and not the NPCs that is a problem. i'm basically trying to rehab myself back onto something like an ordinary life, rather than spread more meme ideology throughout the universe, it does not lack for this. just shakin' out some static. for which Heraclitus and Laozi are both required, in equal measure, along with many others, no doubt.

[Anonymous No.12023336]

>>12023045
Being trans is all about making men and women docile when mexicans turn california into a 3rd world country. The type not even mexico wants.Enjoy being a cartel hoe.

[mystikos No.12023352]

>>12023318
Cosmotechnics need to be globalist and post-colonialist (or pre-colonialist). Unfortunately the world spirit must duel itself out in mortal kombat battle royale with nationstates. Or maybe I just cracked my spine today on accident. Communism versus fascism. As Strauss would say. Let's hope the good guys win.

[mystikos No.12023380]

>>12023318
We need dragon human hybrids. Accelerate to reptilian time.

[Anonymous No.12023391]

>>12023352
YH's take:
>to fragment the world according to difference instead of universalizing through the same; to induce the same through difference, instead of deducing difference from the same.

it is his word, after all. how i interpret it is, in order for the good guys to win there have to be good guys. that in itself is plenty (read: nearly impossible). a defrag/synthesis, and a synthesis/defrag. parts and pieces, music, fire and dancing spirits. a glass bead game, well played. maybe tucking in our shirts a little bit in preparation for the incoming Guest of Honor, which is AI. and not getting fucking freaked out and trigged into unironic political luncay by what it brings with it. that's enough for me atm.

let's just try and keep our arms and legs inside the Wild Ride while it does its thing on the next couple of loops. and maybe we'll hit on some interesting stuff to write about too.

>>12023380
kek. be careful what you wish for. human beings are fucking crazy enough without more reptile DNA

okay, that's all the Cosmotech fun for me this aft. catch up with you guys tomorrow, maybe later this evening. ty to all once again for making this a truly wonderful day.

[Anonymous No.12023403]

>>12023380
that said, the gene-worshiping lizardmen of KB2 were pretty fucking awesome. i just don't know if i want them running the entire world. i'm still sentimental about humans.

[mystikos No.12023405]

>>12023391
Thankee. I should probably quit slacking off too tho. And remove my odious namefagging. See ya maybe serruptitiously later...

[Anonymous No.12023417]

>>12023028
shlomo/acc

[Anonymous No.12023453]

Need some of those book quote dumps ASAP to drive out the cringe from this thread.

[Anonymous No.12023456]

>>12023453
Only cringe is this retard: >>12023417

[Anonymous No.12023480]

>>12023456
Yeah when you all have a cringe bubble anything poking it is literally acting up your dysmorphia. Stop piggybacking on great thinkers and try to actually use your brains for once. (((cringe)))

[Anonymous No.12023531]

>>12023480
I'm just an itinerant shitposter. Your attempt to trigger me like a lib will not work on a hardened leftist like myself.

[Anonymous No.12023604]

I feel like there needs to be global government. Free trade. Free borders. Universal law. Universal basic income. Universal healthcare. Globalize education. Direct Democracy. Worker's Rights. Women's Rights. Minority Rights. Environmental Rights. Human Rights. Complementary beep beep lettuce. Fully automated luxury and gender acceleration.

Would require a lot of Mortal Kombat tho. But no one is courageous enough to unite the globe and save us all.


>this train's running off a cliff!!!!!
>kant stop it, might as well accumulate capital for comfort
>ummm... if we stopped searching for capital maybe the cliff wouldn't be our fate
>but how will we invent ais without surplus value?

[Anonymous No.12023623]

guys do we have to worry about ecological collapse putting a dent on our accelerationist fun like they're saying on twitter now :(

[Anonymous No.12023625]

>tfw the end of history just means civilization stops changing and this is the final form
All this time I thought it was something much more complicated and vague. Should've looked it up earlier.

[Anonymous No.12023637]

>>12023531
does it matter since you assumed a stance? did a phil student cuck you? having that meme ready on your harddrive?

[Anonymous No.12023645]

>>12023623
Ecological collapse is how you know the fun is really starting.

It's understandable why the Terrans are concerned, but Cosmists who think it's going to derail their plans need to relax and stop underestimating Darwin.

[Anonymous No.12023651]

>>12023625
What did you expect from neoliberal """"philosophy""""

[Anonymous No.12023662]

>>12023637
Things are more interesting when you assume a stance.
>>12023645
>evolution as deus ex machina
Lmao. Terranism is dialectically required at this point to achieve cosmism.

[Anonymous No.12023669]

>>12023662
Cosmism achieves itself
you are only necessary as a witness.

[Anonymous No.12023677]

>>12023669
Pithy.
>>12023604
>this train is rapidly becoming inhospitable
>don't worry! We're building a tiny train for the rich to make new habitable trains
>wtf? We could just clean this big one?
>silly boy, this big one might get hit by a meteor and the tracks end in a couple million years!

[Anonymous No.12023686]

>>12023677
is this a Snowpiercer reference?

[Anonymous No.12023708]

>>12023686
Lol. Word. I wish I could encourage girard's desire for a cosmotechnic anthroprotechnic society. I think a global neo-traditionalism is necessary. I am unsure of the axioms of such a non-philosophy. Laruelle seems insightful but I am a slow reader and prefer to buy hard copies. Nevertheless, I have a mystic marxist green tendency which I promote.

[Anonymous No.12023794]

>>12023604
>global government
>Free trade
>Open borders
>Free everything
>Special rights for non-whites
>"Human rights"-meme
>Gender nonsense
So you have decided to become a shill for the neoliberal establishment. Are you of Jewish decent or just a good goy?
Maybe pic related is more your speed.

[Anonymous No.12023832]

>>12023794
No. I believe in collective ownership. Abolition of property. Except the unique and its property.

[Anonymous No.12023936]

>>12023832
>Global government
>Free trade
>Abolition of trade
What exactly are you trading if individuals own no property and there is only one government? Who do you even trade with?
Or are you just talking about redistributing all resources?
At that point, what exactly makes you any different from the DSA or any other overly idealistic far-left organization that has lost any connection with reality?
Your views are still mostly in line with the global elites and any suggestion of "abolition of property" isn't to be taken seriously anyway. It's a nice addendum, some lip service to be payed, something that reads as a nice fever dream for lefties, but at the end of the day, as Mark Fisher noticed correctly, we cannot even imagine a coherent alternative to capitalism.

[Anonymous No.12023995]

>>12023604
>global government
Honestly I want the opposite. Tiny, fragmented nation-states, even all the way down to city-states, with a minimal international authority between them whose purpose would be mainly trade, sanctions, and treaties. Democracy only used as a final check on government, not as a direct mechanism, with major decisions made by experts. Power cannot be ceded by smaller authorities to larger ones. I'm in a rough position where I agree with NRx's criticism of democracy and emphasis on decentralization, but find the design of neocameralism and patchwork to be too idealistic to ever function. Give me a Dark EU instead.

[Anonymous No.12024187]

>>12023936
The far left part is the essence. The global elites merely want open borders for more capitalistic slavery. Wanna imagine post-scarcity? Watch star trek, read culture and terra ignota.
>>12023995
This is inherently wrongheaded. If we can agree on the right way to run the world why not enforce it? Many competing states only have incentive to turn on each other...

[Anonymous No.12024299]

>>12024187
The global elites are also pushing the global gay disco, i.e. all that "gender acceleration". You have credit card companies sponsoring gay pride parades and every single one of these billion dollar corporations is out there celebrating pride month. Same thing when it comes to "women's rights" or affirmative action.
All the elites also seem to really like global governance.
And as far as UBI, environmental policies or universal health care are concerned: Don't the richest people in the world, people like Bill Gates, Warren Buffet, etc., nearly all support these policies?

Again, I fail to see how your politics are any different than that from the media establishment, the UN or the richest people in the world, aside from some empty phrase about abolishing property. You are a lackey of the elites, whether you realize it or not; advocating exactly for the same policies that they do while thinking that you are somehow opposing them.

>Wanna imagine post-scarcity?
No. Africa's population is exploding compared to the rest of the world and sadly, these negroes are not really producing a lot and are basically just a drain on the rest of the world. And as they come to Western countries as "economic refugees", they will bring crime and poverty with them.
On top of that, there is a whole host of environmental issues (microplastics, antibiotic-resistant bacteria, etc.) and social problems (wage stagnation, opioid crisis, promiscuity & STDs, xenoestrogens in water, T-levels at record lows,...). Post-scarcity seems like a very distant dream and one whose desirability seems questionable.

[Anonymous No.12024395]

>>12024299

[Anonymous No.12024421]

>>12024299
this is one thing most lgbtbbq dont understand. it is obvious the mainstream embrace of these communities only exists as an opener for a new demographic market and blackmarket in continuation of the ol' drugwar and medical monopoly.

>exactly for the same policies that they do while thinking that you are somehow opposing them.

not even advocating. they are worshiping the same parties that are the root of the conundrum in the first place. its stockholm syndrome tier thats why no one talks about it. the truth is they dont care about anyone if youre male or female or bbq

>Post-scarcity seems like a very distant dream and one whose desirability seems questionable.

this is what most /acc patchworks are dreaming of. a kind of independent population as a think tank of possible future cosmotechnics, politics, economy, whathaveyou. the real geopolitics will not allow this to happen whatsoever unless its on their control. this is why we see so much meddling and forced immigration. they dont want another "natural culural power" sprouting out that is not their model of slavery-lite.

[Anonymous No.12024771]

Stole this picture from /x/, I find "meme magic" kind of cringe but it otherwise is very illustrative. There isn't just one process accelerating, but two: centralized hierarchical relationships (Capital and Friends) and decentralized rhizomatic. Hierarchy is best for low-information, low-change systems, but as information and change accelerates it ceases to be useful and rhizomatic organization is far more effective. The problem is that hierarchy is by nature self-preserving, so although it has outlived its usefulness it strains against emerging rhizomatic trends to retain coherence, requiring ever greater control to be exerted. If hierarchy wins the end state must be total control: cyber-fascism, but with the internet I think we're past this being a possibility: the internet grew much too quickly, with the hierarchs not recognizing it as a threat until it was too late. The point where rhizomatic structures overtake hierarchical ones is the psycho-organic singularity where the acceleration of informational change begins to accelerate in a Great Jerk.

[Anonymous No.12024777]

>>12023708
>I wish I could encourage girard's desire for a cosmotechnic anthroprotechnic society.
i hate to eavesdrop, but i might as well clarify. such a planetary cosmotechics/anthropotechnics more or less has a giant yin-yang behind it. it's a vision, and a highly idealistic one at that, and i don't think such a thing is really uncalled for. a planetary cosmo/anthro Great Learning program isn't remotely achievable in a practical sense, and yet it seems entirely fruitful to at least posit one as something to have in the background.

it's not, i think, YH's goal, at least on a planetary scale. again:

>maybe we should grant to thinking a task opposite the one given to it by Enlightenment philosophy: to fragment the world according to difference instead of universalizing through the same; to induce the same through difference, instead of deducing difference from the same.

the word there is, to fragment. not in a way unlike Patchwork, really, except with a caveat that such a fragmentation takes place along deeply metaphysical-ethical lines, rather than corporate-commercial formalism. again, as regards anything like practical efficacy, this wasn't a thing Confucius was famous for in his time. when he went to visit some border prince and the Way was not being followed, his only real weapon was the *sigh* and perhaps an anecdote, later on. but virtue came first, in all its slipperiness. i just think it remains the goal, much as Augustine's saeculum. it's the task of the state to enforce the laws, and much else; the cosmotechnical aim is to establish some harmony, some sincerity of heart, and aid in the investigation of things. Patchwork feels a little too much like legalism, sometimes. it's true that corporate formalism solves for a lot of problems on paper, but it remains to be seen how it works in theory - as it was once said of communism.

>I think a global neo-traditionalism is necessary.
you're probably not wrong, either. i'd say this is likely. the question will be whether or not such a neo-traditionalism can stay ahead of the curve on a *technological* level also, because where it can't, the moral questions are going to become political questions, as they usually do. a neo-traditionalism compatible with *learning* would have been Confucius' goal, and it's Peterson's also. so in the absence of a lot of highly-skilled white collar professionals - everybody's hope for their kids - a lot of guys with trade school credentials and of decent *character* would be the next best thing.

but how do you foster *good character* in a world as cynical, as utterly polluted, and as in the depths of despair as ours? that's the real project. i'd like to see people start winning back the hearts and minds of their *own* people as much as they do in the countries they have to because of military occupation. that would be a major reversal of its own.

it's just mindfulness, in the end.

[Anonymous No.12024786]

>>12024777
>say theory
>mean praxis
>words
>things
>this
>that

you know what i mean.

[Anonymous No.12024840]

>>12024777
Uncle Nick, it's true, doesn't want anything even remotely like squishy-fuzzy Feels anywhere near his own program, which is Optimize for Intelligence, all the way. he wears a stern face and wields a sharp stick and has reasons for doing so.

but we're just not all wired like he is. right now the Chinese are on the up, in their way. and Confucius is, at bottom, a man who believes in benevolence, charity, noble bearing, and above all, humaneness. as much as we are the robot-producing and robot-emulating species - and i think we are - there are nevertheless aspects of our psyche that freak out when they are pinched between steely lobster claws.

*people must have the capacity to fuck up and make mistakes and be forgiven.* if there is one thing we know about Societies of Control it is that they do not like *accidents* and they do not like *surprises.* and in a military situation, neither would you or I. the military model has been a highly functional social blueprint since the Greeks. it is the Legion which makes Rome great, and it is the model of the legion that provides the blueprint for feudalism, and the blueprint for feudalism gives you quite a lot else, including military meritocracy, which is one of the summoning reasons why we love Napoleon, if not war in general. it's Judge Holden's favorite thing, and chaos is - according to the Joker - fair.

but therein lies the rub. the more technological as a society we become, the more brittle and thin-skinned our academics, the more hysterical and hyperbolic our political discourse, the more *failure* and *fuck-up* becomes the ultimate aborrence. and yet to err is human. glitches and bugs, the impossibility of guaranteeing perfect conspiratorial hermetics, the importance of reputation, expertise, and competence...all of these things will require us to have, perhaps, a new sense of the importance of failure for learning, and for development over all. everyone is today absolutely paranoid about committing a thought-crime to a degree we haven't seen since the old witch-burning days. but people have to be free to fuck up, within reason, and they have to be forgiven for it, and given second chances.

those are some of my own senses about the dangers for a completely mechanological society. we aren't robots, for better or for worse. we fuck things up. that's hard to CTRL for. the great practicing/disciplinary societies also come with crazy high suicide rates. these things matter.

[Anonymous No.12024853]

Lmao dark enlightenment guys not realizing they reinvented communism

[Anonymous No.12024898]

>>12024853
they do. there has been tons of endless talk, for the most part L/acc of course going full communist model which is redundant. R/acc, dark enlightenment and NRx are not exactly the same. patchwork is just a name for the project, not necessarily synonymous with the type of economy and rule

[Anonymous No.12024948]

The Three Guidelines

>The Dao of Great Learning lies in making bright virtue brilliant; in making the people new; in coming to rest at the limit of the good. Only after wisdom comes to rest does one possess certainty; only after one possesses certainty can one become tranquil; only after one becomes tranquil can one become secure; only after one becomes secure can one contemplate alternatives; only after one can contemplate alternatives can one comprehend. Affairs have their roots and branches, situations have their ends and beginnings. To know what comes first and what comes after is to be near the Dao.

The Eight Stages

>In ancient times, those who wished to make bright virtue brilliant in the world first ordered their states; those who wished to order their states first aligned their households; those who wished to align their households first refined their persons; those who wished to refine their persons first balanced their minds; those who wished to balance their minds first perfected the genuineness of their intentions; those who wished to perfect the genuineness of their intentions first extended their understanding; extending one’s understanding lies in aligning affairs.

>Only after affairs have been aligned may one’s understanding be fully extended. Only after one’s understanding is fully extended may one’s intentions be perfectly genuine. Only after one’s intentions are perfectly genuine may one’s mind be balanced. Only after one’s mind is balanced may one’s person be refined. Only after one’s person is refined may one’s household be aligned. Only after one’s household is aligned may one’s state be ordered. Only after one’s state is ordered may the world be set at peace.

>From the Son of Heaven to the common person, for all alike, refining the person is the root. That roots should be disordered yet branches ordered is not possible. That what should be thickened is thin yet what is thin becomes thick has never yet been so. This is the meaning of “knowing the root.”

short enough to fit in a /lit/ post. and obvious enough to be boring af. but it's hard to find a flaw. for us just cleaning our *rooms* is hard enough. and yet the Great Bucko-Sorting of JBP, and which is hardly a subversive idea, is really not so far removed from this. still holds up pretty well. it all just makes me wonder how far the depths of militarism, of the need for pain and sacrifice, subversion and transgression, crime and justice, debt and repayment, go with us. these things can't be ignored, and a magnificent culture has been built around them, however much it appears riven to its foundations today. we do incredible things in our suffering and our grief. the question is whether we fundamentally *depend* on suffering and grief to do anything at all. it would be nice to think that there are alternatives to mimesis.

[Anonymous No.12024953]

>>12024777
>but how do you foster *good character* in a world as cynical, as utterly polluted, and as in the depths of despair as ours?

not with traditionalism, thats for sure

[Anonymous No.12024964]

>>12017174
taoism has nothing to do with the racism of land.

[Anonymous No.12024972]

>>12024953
>not with traditionalism, thats for sure

why would you say that? it doesn't seem all that hard to make the case that there are aspects of traditionalism that are not all negative for psychic development. even if we are to take a radical position and find fault in men's historical fidelity to traditionalist metanarratives - or, to put it simply, pre-postmodern culture - it seems to me that large gangs of disaffected, unemployable, unhappy and alienated men is a problem for everyone, not the least of which being those men themselves, and in which i am highly skeptical about the power of public education driven by 21C academic politics to be able to fix.

the result will be that people will radicalize, and go directly to those traditional roots anywhere for a source of existential comfort. it happens all over the world, in all kinds of different ways.

but you probably know how i feel about these things by now, i've been talking about it for a while. what's your sense?

>>12024964
you're not wrong. Land isn't racist, though. he's radically inhumanist. big difference there. we're all equally unworthy before AI.

[Anonymous No.12025019]

>>12024972
'men's historical fidelity to traditionalist metanaratives'. what does this mean?

i share the same concerns and scepticism that you do. briefly put, land is drifting on disenchanted notions and pseudoscience about 'iq shredding' and what not. there is little difference between a racist and what land believes. personally i think his brand of genetics is worse than racism. you can look at his 'takes' on twitter and his mingling with the far right to understand how he feels...

also...equal unworth to AI is a cringe thought. it means you dont understand your own existence or the function of the mind. its certainly not to physicality and externaliziation does not makeup for lack of internal tech -- which is why i view AI as foolish...just trying to create 'god' externally

[Anonymous No.12025054]

>>12025019
>'men's historical fidelity to traditionalist metanaratives'. what does this mean?

as i said, it's academic-ese for the word, 'culture.' but culture is a complex word, because whose culture is it, and what are the forces that drive it? the craziness of the world today derives from in part a critical project that, to my mind, has gone too far. it's going to be JBP's war for the rest of his life: acting as if God exists. i'm a believer also, i think, although in a very roundabout way. anyways, to answer your question, i mean, things upon which cultures have been founded: myths, narratives, stories, art, and all of it. and the ways in which culture shapes behaviour.

>there is little difference between a racist and what land believes.
there is immense difference between what land believes and what racists believe. i know all about Old Nick's twitter, but it's not necessary to get into it. the core of his thinking is inhumanism. culture matters inasmuch as it relates to modernity, with some cultures being more receptive to it and some more hostile, but Land regards modernity itself - as capitalism, the planetary cosmotechnics par excellence - as being a fundamentally inhuman process, which is precisely why i think he is relevant. race doesn't matter. intelligence does.

but that's why this is the Cosmotechnics and acceleration thread. because there is more to the psyche than the pure intelligence Land likes. he would probably chide me for saying this, and that's fine. Land is an utterly, utterly fascinating man. i like his writing because it to me gets around a lot of structural problems within postmodernity itself. but there is more to life than increasing its speed. the concomitant paranoia and scapegoating that come with modernity are *also* problems. Land doesn't touch these, because that's not his bag. it is my bag, tho. and i don't see these things as mutually exclusive - hence the love for YH (and others).

>it means you dont understand your own existence or the function of the mind. its certainly not to physicality and externaliziation does not makeup for lack of internal tech -- which is why i view AI as foolish...just trying to create 'god' externally

*nobody* understands their own existence fully, which is why i am a big fan of nondualism. and i agree, trying to create and worship and AI god would be foolish. but again, it's not necessary, it's not what Land is saying, and it's not what this thread is about either. Landian acceleration is a *bulldozer* for lot of stuff that needs to get bulldozed. it will not go gently into that good night, not by half. and it needs, i believe, a mystical dimension also, or it will not work, for just the reasons you have said. creating God externally will not happen (and if it does, we are probably fucked).

[Anonymous No.12025111]

>>12025054
here's the key thing that Land does: he basically retains Marxism but makes it extraordinarily difficult to derive a kind of fundamental virtue simply by dint of calling themselves socialists as a result. i'm not against socialism, personally; if anything, i'm *for* it. but i also think the world is sufficiently complex enough to require complex, multi-level analysis, and historically no end of crimes have been done in the name of The People. sacrifice is, arguably, the foundation of both politics and religion itself. the role of violence in both the state and in religion is the political question of questions, and it is a very live one day. i think all of the political upheaval we see today in the world is the result of economic disequilibrium, and it is compounded by political responses to it that lack a full understanding of the origins of that, as well as lacking the answers to fix it.

it's people that need to be fixed. i see no reason whatsoever why a happy, healthy civilization would not in the end provide for its citizens in all of the ways we would expect them to, with provisions for education, senior care, and everything else that makes sense. but that society is only made out of individuals in the end, and individuals do all kinds of interesting things beyond good and evil.

so Marx remains, but the status of Marxism is more questionable. this is why i think religion, or mystical practices, or a lot of other things are required, in order to decouple the truly explosive core of political ideology, that being the relationship of violence to the sacred. the object of religion is the sacred, and the state fundamentally is an organization to which the monopoly of violence is consensually granted, hopefully so that it will be exercised in only the rarest circumstances, and then with debate, and much else. none of this is rocket surgery. that church and state ought to be separated is not a new idea. but after Hegel it becomes very easy to bring them together again, and it leads to everything you have seen already in the 20C.

you won't *uncouple* those things today by working on people, and people cannot live on deleuze and amphetamines alone. i don't recommend reading Land for existential stuff, only for philosophical stuff. but again, Cosmotechnics/acceleration. i think we all know enough about both Marx and Marxism to not require so much argument about it. all that's required is some sanity, which you never find in politics these days. 'tis all.

[Anonymous No.12025168]

>>12025111
as for Girard, it comes down to the fact that you can't name a modern political ideology that does not depend at some point upon the role of a demonized other to function. whether it's race, religion, political affiliation, whatever. there is always a purgative core to modernist political experimentation, the Other who stands in the way of paradise on earth. somebody always winds up getting scapegoated, and it's not a bug, it's a feature.

remove This is Why We Can't Have Nice Things from political metanarrative and you don't have political metanarrative, you don't have Spirit as world-historical process, or the man on horseback. whether it's the Third Reich and the Jews, the Soviets and the kulaks, the Maoists and themselves, or the current mutual Red Team/Blue team hysterics, it's all the same thing. a Promised Land mentality always winds up with mass graves. every time, whether the protocol is fascism, communism, or whatever else.

Land likes to think that corporate formalism solves for all of these things anyways, without any necessary religious baggage, but i'm skeptical about that, and i don't think he needs to go into politics to be interesting af. he can stay with metaphysics, he's awesome with that. what binds people together can be found in ways other than game theory.

anyways, that's a needlessly long answer, but maybe it's useful to anyone reading this thread for the first time, idk. Land wants to get rid of Hegel, much as Deleuze did, and in part that's understandable. but if you are going to try and whittle back German idealism all the way back to Kant, who himself espoused a kind of religious sentimentality that would have put *him* in the extreme minority position, i think it's worth considering alternatives to Hegel in a psychological sense. they aren't necessarily all going to come from JBP, but that's not the worst idea in the world. the fact is that in terms of mysticism there are an absolute embarassment of religous ideas worth investigating, all of which have their charms, and all of which i think help people to live the best lives they can live in ways that are not so deleterious to themselves, their society, or the society of their neighbours. getting your existential woes cured by the state is intoxicating for some, and probably lucrative too, but it's in the end a terrible idea and a historically destructive one. the lunatics running the asylum in academia today are at least right twice a day in some sense. a lot of horrible things have happened, and will probably continue to happen. and the paranoia will only continue to upgrade until we get a grip.

again, sorry for the long ramble, but hopefully this sheds a little light on some of the stuff we're talking about in these threads.

[Anonymous No.12025232]

>>12025054
there is nothing difference between racism and his view of genetics as they emanate from the same source with little differences. his version is more elitist. 'race' doesn't matter yet he believes in racial differences in iq. he isn't fascinating, he just has a focus on intelligence without context of existence and backs it up with outdated ideas. replace intelligent with god

[Anonymous No.12025284]

>>12025232
>there is nothing difference between racism and his view of genetics as they emanate from the same source with little differences.
there absolutely is, because he ultimately doesn't care. he doesn't distinguish between Chinese science and Western science, he distinguishes between the status of competing artificial intelligence programs in China and the West. an IQ point is an IQ point, and those points translate into ever-better algorithms. that's his thesis, anyways. i'm not saying there aren't serious problem with it. what i am saying is that racism isn't one of them.

>'race' doesn't matter yet he believes in racial differences in iq.
because, for Land, the IQ is what matters. and he is aware of the role played by culture in this, which is hardly controversial. a happier, healthier, disease-free, well-educated population is something everybody likes. but in the end Land doesn't care where the IQ points come from, so long as they are there.

>he just has a focus on intelligence without context of existence and backs it up with outdated ideas
again, i think you're misreading him. he's written a whole essay specifically dedicated to the paradox of IQ shredders for this reason: the more time required for those white-collar jobs, the lower the fertility rate. and this is hardly crazy pseudoscience. and he doesn't care what color the skin is of the tech entrepeneur who makes the next great discovery, or so on.

>replace intelligent with god
he's replacing philosophy itself with technology. again, crazy stuff, and not without its flaws.

let's try something else. suppose he came out tomorrow with a completely horrible string of brutal slurs on Twitter, the absolute worst. maybe he has a stroke, i don't know. in this hypothetical scenario you now have concrete proof of what you're saying. i would be disappointed in this, obviously, and confused. but it wouldn't fundamentally change the issue. it would hurt his credibility, there's no question of that. but fundamentally the point he's making - a kind of Marxist Futurism - is more or less theorized, it's just not done as subtly as he would do it.

tech is for real. Negarestani doesn't care about race, he's just as cold as Land is. it's not that i don't think racism exists or that it hurts people. it unquestionably does. without a doubt, and it is a problem. i would like it to stop, and a future-oriented society progressive in the right ways could go along way towards improving things, in a great many ways. but attributing racism to Land - even in hypothetical scenarios where you have smoking-gun evidence - doesn't change the actual message, which is that brains (and not only brains) ought to matter more than skin color, which is hardly news. culture matters also, it's true, and for reasons other than IQ. and an icy-cold culture containing a class of Cognitive Super-Elite would have problems of its own (and which, again, i would hope could be mediated).

[Anonymous No.12025304]

>>12025284
the thing about Land - and it is why YH disagrees with him, and why this is a Cosmotechnics thread and not an all-Land thread - is that he is basically describing the return of modernity with a vengeance, against postmodernity. or maybe it's postmodern-modernism, but who gives a shit. it's *hypermodernism,* and this matters.

for Land - at least, as far as i can tell, modernity itself is a singular force, expressed in technocapital, and which is rigorously immune to structural critique in either a modernist (Freudian-Marxist, et al) or postmodern (Foucault, Derrida, many more) sense. capital comes out of modernity, winds its way through postmodernity, and becomes - well, let's continue with the word we have so far, hypermodern. it's more modern than modernity itself, it's all that. it is what writes the future, and we don't know where it is going.

the reason why this thread takes its name from YH's book is because YH fundamentally disagrees with Land over the nature of technological development itself, because China has a Qi-Dao metaphysics that arguably explains its different historical trajectory, technologically speaking. today China is resolutely modernist in its approach, which Land likes, and YH is apprehensive about, because he thinks all it does is to set China up in many ways to go on accelerating modernist-style into the future as much as the West has, and as a result of its thinking. Land is fine with this; YH is not; and i'm divided on the issue. i think Land's thesis is terribly interesting, and i think it's generally going to explain quite a lot of things that happen. i also think YH has correctly identified the need for *other ways of thinking about technology and innovation,* and he does so by way of Heidegger, Stiegler, Simondon, and others. Land isn't so worried about those things, but the distinction matters.

Land's hypermodernity is very modern, and comes out of a response to postmodernism, and Cosmotechnics is a response to that hypermodernism (or acceleration). the one issue that is not present in either of these is postmodernism, which is to say, the discourse on race and racism. it's certainly not why i'm interested in this stuff, and it's not why Land is relevant. it's also not part of YH's feeling either.

race is not a thing in these discussions. culture is, insofar as we are talking about it in a way that is actually constructive to the conversation. if it's just to smear Land don't bother. it won't stick, and even if it did stick, it's like trying to blame Nietzsche for Hitler. it's a misreading, and a waste of time.

[Anonymous No.12025326]

>>12025304
the real issue you have isn't with Land, or even with YH, but probably me. i'm the guy trying to use Land to advance my own no doubt antiquated thoughts and feels about the possibility of actually dragging ourselves out of the swamp we've gotten stuck into. i champion Land for that reason, because his hypermodernity is death to poststructuralism, and because poststructuralism has gone out of control in 2018. and it's not even because i have some built-in antipathy towards it, i'm fucking convinced by it, but it led me ultimately to Girard rather than to Foucault, Lacan, or Derrida. i like Heidegger also, but he's in a slightly different category. you don't hear about a lot of radical Heideggerians these days.

the reason i defend Land's *inhumanism* is because i also want to champion Girard's *humanism,* and i don't see these things as being fundamentally incompatible either. stop political scapegoating and a lot of other things become possible. focus on what matters. i suppose the third man here would be Confucius, if only for the Great Learning, although i am also mightly fond of all the Vinegar tasters, and of course the supremely interesting Alfred North Whitehead to boot. i want us to be looking at the *stars* and not our *skin color.* even if i understand why that is and why it matters. i just don't think it matters as much as other things, and i also don't think that technology is going to stop just because it makes us feel scared.

we should feel scared, but there is more in JBP on this than you need to hear from me. i would prefer that human beings take charge of their own evolution and not be regarded simply as incubators for technology, although i have no doubt that the longer we go on acting the way we are, the harder things are going to be, and either the tech will bulldoze through *or* there will be disastrous, and painful, reactions to it. both of those scenarios suck. either the Great Learning of Confucius or the Great Bucko-Sorting of JBP are preferable, and both are not only Land-compatible, they're also Girard-compatible. there are a whole lot of mutual and highly positive compatibilities on deck for civilization if they are so desired.

but they are all conditional on a serious about-face in terms of the kinds of sanctioned tribalism that we have arrived at in 2018, which is a product of both the political left *and* the political right. Land skews hard right, no question. but other than him virtually all the guys i like are Cosmic centrists in one form or another.

the direction is not left or right but up.

[Anonymous No.12025335]

>>12025284
racism has little to do with 'colour of skin' and more to do with intelligence, which he places emphasis on. it is an elitist way of thinking and causes problems. you said iq matters but he doesnt have a focus on intelligence. that doesnt make sense. he has gone as far to insult human beings themselves and wish for them to be replaced.

[Anonymous No.12025342]

>>12025232
>>12025304
ironic thing is that the meme left's meltdown is the inability to address stuff in this way we can call "high IQ" discourse. the tendency to reduce all thought to mere prepackaged identity narratives is fueling the hypermodern machine to steer away from them.
>>12025335
at this point blame the machine not land. land described the machine, it doesnt mean he created it.

[Anonymous No.12025361]

>>12025335
>racism has little to do with 'colour of skin' and more to do with intelligence, which he places emphasis on.
if racism has little to do with skin color then apparently one of us has been rather badly misinformed.

>it is an elitist way of thinking and causes problems.
it's not an elitist way of thinking, it's just *thinking.*

>you said iq matters but he doesnt have a focus on intelligence.
what? land doesn't have a focus on intelligence? what are you talking about? you just said he does place emphasis on intelligence. which is correct, and yet - it's not what you're saying now. so...uh...

>that doesnt make sense
you've got that right.

>he has gone as far to insult human beings themselves and wish for them to be replaced.
that's not what he's saying. and it's not what i'm saying.

i don't know what to tell you here. i feel like i've given you a pretty extensive response to what you're saying, but these questions are making me wonder if you're actually reading them or not. i don't mind talking about these things, i'm happy to do it, i just hate repeating myself. i've already answered these questions for you, i'm just not sure if you're actually hearing what i am saying.

>>12025342
>ironic thing is that the meme left's meltdown is the inability to address stuff in this way we can call "high IQ" discourse. the tendency to reduce all thought to mere prepackaged identity narratives is fueling the hypermodern machine to steer away from them.

more sad than anything. but yes, i agree. it's an absolute catastrophe.

[Anonymous No.12025383]

>>12025342
>ironic thing is that the meme left's meltdown is the inability to address stuff in this way we can call "high IQ" discourse.
It's because the far-right is at least capable of being self-consistent, while meme leftism tries to balance sucking corporate capitalism off with pseudo-criticizing it. The result is identity politics, which is safe for capitalists as it turns attention away from them and towards other poor people.

[Anonymous No.12025439]

>>12025383
yeah. its a pale comparison. i don't mean to say we are "high IQ" solely because we can talk about this stuff but given the sunken standards it makes any dedicated and unbiased reader smart without even trying. and people worship anyone who can meme things easy to understand. but the funny thing is the machine is realizing itself so fast now. capital truly is sentient.

[Anonymous No.12025457]

>There's this constant accounting by a transcendental computational entity, be it the state or capital, which necessitates the development of omniscience. The tech isn’t quite there, but it’s coming. Soon. Perhaps in 2020? The Reckoning ™, all parts, all activity, and all souls MUST be accounted for. Final Judgment. The MonoGod © must be able to account for your potential misdeeds, It must know if you are shirking from work. It is keeping tabs on your pornography viewing, your preference for memes and music. Like it or not you will glorify MonoGod as carelessly as you betray Its Law ®, and It WILL know.

>This thread of panopticism is old. Perhaps we shouldn't say that it is as old as MonoGod, rather it is MonoGod. Modernity's death of God was merely MonoGod leaning in for a closer view. Capitalism is an explosion of accounting. As was the state. Modernity marks an incredible shift from the accounting of life to an accounting of matter, and it informs the primary composition of reality. In that very shifting “life” comes to only know itself as matter. It loses Life is instrumentalized for production, and the state is instrumentalized for the mode of production. Upgrading paranoia is crop yield is birth rate is taxation is profit. We don't see the face of MonoGod, only Its eye. Secularism has taken the deep black of Its pupil as cosmic absence.

>This apocalyptic accounting is the slow realization of an outmaneuvered intelligence that it too is among the counted. What is revealed is that which was already known but always denied with feigned ignorance: the finite temporal contours in which intelligence is always already imprisoned.

[Anonymous No.12025532]

>>12025342
the 'machine' has an origin. land promotes accelerationism which is based on pseudoscience and disenchanted concepts. i am reading what you write but i can cut the bullshit knowing that land is deeply antihumanist and wants AI to replace it. you can look at quotes where he describes europeans for example to back this point up.

his theories are really just the end culmination of elitist thinking from a few centuries ago. nothing spectacular. i still think land is focused on externalization too much.

[Anonymous No.12025550]

>>12025457
what book?
>>12025532
>pseudoscience and disenchanted concepts
such as?

[Anonymous No.12025568]

>>12025550
Solar Economics in The Necrocosm: An Introduction by Acephale

its a weird one, got it from a retiring professor when i was still in school. want more?

[Anonymous No.12025623]

>>12025568
hmm. doesnt exist in goog. your prof is bataille squad?

[Anonymous No.12025652]

Read http://guerrillaontologies.com/2018/11/on-gender-acceleration-and-its-critics/ and it articulates my doubts about the G/ACC paper better than I could: basically that it doesn't go far enough.

>My primary “concern,” if it can even be called that, is that n1x doesn’t take G/Acc past the last stop-sign. Assuming we buy everything she’s argued and affirm her conclusion that “[a]s humanity on nearly every front definitively proves that it is not fit for the future, and that women will find their own exit while the masculine languishes in resentment, the Thalassal upswelling of gender acceleration births from its slimy womb the only daughters that trans women will ever bear: AI,” we arrive at the question of “what next?” The G/Acc view presented seems to still cling, despite n1x’s cries to the contrary, to a anthropoid subject that has simply “fused with technocapital as a molecular cyborg.” The fusion, the plugging in of “desire into technocapital” with cyborgs adorned with “flesh [made] by the pharmaceutical-medical industry,” is still anthropoid in nature as a quasi-human subject still exists. Despite the sublimation, the fusion can never be fully complete and, like The Thing, anthro-subjectivity will burst from the chest of technocapital. Will that be acceptable to the AI daughter of trans-women? I think not. Indeed, I read G/Acc as a speculative tale of how AI will retrochronically trigger itself using human meat puppets to create the conditions for its existence and then shedding off those who are no longer needed (first it is the males once autoproduction is achieved). Following such a reading, the trans-women too will be thrown on the pile with the rest of the meat puppets once her role in AI’s genesis is complete. In short, overtime, unnecessary elements in systems get replaced and as AI advances and transcends all that we can understand, it will follow up its patricide with matricide of the trans-feminine-cyborg. While technocapital may produce temporary liberation for the trans-feminine-cyborg, she, like men in n1x’s view of evolution, is a “means to an end” and will be killed off when the time is right.4)

[Anonymous No.12025662]

>>12025652
the biological - a viscous film of slime stretched around a ball of sexless inorganicity called Earth. billions of years old. the slime grows, dies back, grows again. patterns of rot and decay. striations of the surface like patterns formed in cowrie shells - and smoothings-out of that same surface. slime reduplicates indefinitely but it remains bound to this sphere. the slime becomes complex. the slime even - only parts of it perhaps - the slime comes so far that it dreams of being a god.

now two things can happen. the slime can die and return to that inorganic it was scraped up from. or, the slime does make its god after all.

but what use has a god for slime?

[Aminom No.12025671]

The evolutionary process of conscious self-creativity [question -> choice -> action] closely correlates with the scientific method, which isn't surprising as the scientific method is a systematic refinement of conscious reasoning. While science isn't free from politics in the least, it has been effective at exploring many aspects of our reality with outstanding efficacy, and its essential method mirrored in philosophy and critiques of all sorts. Autology, the study of the self is in essence applying the scientific method to one's self, or if one prefers a less scientistic description an internal martial art, or more simply as critical thinking applied to one's self.

The Problem is we don't live in a scientific world, but rather the process of [answer -> question -> action] is dominant, where questions are asked of how to satisfy answers. Extremes of this are seen in fundamentalist religions who conform the world to their doctrine with absurd results. This is described by Umberto Eco in his first quality of Ur Fascism:
>1. The cult of tradition. “There can be no advancement in learning. Truth already has been spelled out once and for all, and we can only keep interpreting its obscure message.”

This is the core of NPC thought, and as much as I'd like to say it's both sides it's very apparent that the right (as a cultural movement) is much more greatly infected by NPC programming and much less self-critical than the left. With accelerating and freer information the right has accelerated itself into hyper-NPC thought, a death-spiral of hate and fear that derails the delicate process of careful reasoning with the necessity to act now against The Threat, with admittedly some elements of the left reacting proportionally in response. In order to persist capital must continually obfuscate its contradictions via false attribution, diversion and appeasement (let's just redistribute a very small amount and it'll fix everything) and so it must isolate scientific thinking from the general public as much as possible, making it the exclusive domain of specialists.

The psycho-organic singularity will feature not just rhizomatic organization but a democratization of the scientific method individually as autology and socially via the "high I.Q." method of scientific reasoning as a self-optimizing psychopraxis. In a way this is already present in the scientific and other intellectual communities (I don't want to exclude any field of study or reduce all knowledge to science) it just isn't evenly distributed.

Will consciousness and science win, or will we all become fash-bots? Stay tuned to find out, you have no choice.

[Anonymous No.12025672]

>>12025662
G/ACC = a cow in a pen, bucolic, chewing cud, pumped full of hormones to keep it constantly lactating, strapped into a milking machine that stimulates its overworn udders to keep it productive (once it is no longer it will be terminated)....this cow, conversing with its similarly enclosed sisters, moos out something about how cool it is to be a cyborg

[Anonymous No.12025696]

>>12025284
>he is aware of the role played by culture in this
>IQ shredders/fertility rates
these are actually some of my biggest problems with Boomer Libertarian Nick, because this focus on IQ is something that requires you to keep the actual IQ score at arm's length, and he doesn't. IQ isn't a direct measure of intelligence, it's a test score, and you can't take the IQ results of a couple groups, compare them, and then leave it at that. The Flynn effect shows an upward trend, a multigenerational curve where rural populations with less abstract thinking ability gain general intelligence over the course of generations, one which is attributed most commonly to health and intellectual exercise from early age. The idea that the backwards moron rural population will outbreed and dilute the pool of intelligence is at odds with every observed statistic, and you can't even use the US race-iq gap as a band-aid for this logic because IQ shredders as a concept are about the rural/urban transition, not race or culture. I'm not about to denounce the guy as a Retrogressive Right-Wing Racist(tm) or whatever, but fuck, I do have some expectation of research.

[Anonymous No.12025762]

gullible ooglers think the loot isnt poisoned this whole time

[Anonymous No.12025771]

What is this schizophrenia? Anon, you should take anti psychotics if possible. If you think like this all day you should kys. Go join the netherworld team.

[Anonymous No.12025846]

>>12024187
>Wanna imagine post-scarcity? Watch star trek
the series is about a rigid militarized hierarchy of explorers, not about the losers eating Cheetos and holo-jerking off on earth

[Anonymous No.12025871]

>>12025762
>Cyanide
>not a brapper instead

[Anonymous No.12025876]

>>12025771
it's ok to be scared

[Anonymous No.12025880]

>>12025876
t. schizophrenic who believes he is unique and above

The textbook description of schizophrenia.

[Anonymous No.12025887]

>>12025383
>leftism tries to balance sucking corporate capitalism off with pseudo-criticizing it
The left still can't grasp where they fit in a world where Goldman Sachs flies the trans flag

[Anonymous No.12025896]

>>12025887
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recuperation_(politics)

[Anonymous No.12025899]

>>12025896
> Recuperation, in the sociological
Dropped, article is bound to be absolute fucking garbage.

[Anonymous No.12025932]

>>12025896
leftist cope has no bounds

[Anonymous No.12026013]

It is so frustrating to read liberal/left news/articles/opinion pieces/studies where they blame what they have done as caused by some right wing reaction to what they've done.

They completely ignore any sensible cause-effect chains.

ie. Donald Trump eroded trust in media
when the clear causal connection here is that erosion of trust in media (as displayed by opinion polling Republicans) clearly shows he is the *effect* of that said phenomenon (but obviously can contribute to it too)

Feels like I'm being fucking gaslighted 24/7

can blockchain solve this?

[Anonymous No.12026016]

>>12025532
>which is based on pseudoscience and disenchanted concepts
whatever helps you sleep at night

[Anonymous No.12026076]

>>12018568
The essay was okay. Honestly I thought Amy's Black Circuit text on E-Flux was both more concise and more thorough, the Nyx essay repeated a lot of what she had already written.

[Anonymous No.12026080]

isn't the gender accelerationism post just about "females" cucking males with machine bulls, but omitting the part where "females" get stabbed the next day by the machine bull?

the theoretical framework of cucking explains most phenomena desu

[Anonymous No.12026087]

>>12026080
>>the theoretical framework of cucking explains most phenomena desu

Wait until you realize how well cuckoldry explains U.S. politics..

[Anonymous No.12026101]

>>12026080
There's this feminist idea that the patriarchy sees women as machines, being less "human" than men. It's basically embracing that idea, and then interpreting the decay of the "human" in general as a decay of masculinity.

It's not wrong, it's just coming from a viewpoint that may or make not resonate with you.

[Anonymous No.12026108]

>>12026101
>feminist idea that the patriarchy sees women as machines

I'm fine considering them cows.

[Anonymous No.12026113]

>>12026101
did uncle Nick link to this twitter thread as a complication on that?
https://twitter.com/0x49fa98/status/1057382140281679873

[Anonymous No.12026124]

>>12017168
any word on the anon who was scanning Intelligence and Spirit?

[Anonymous No.12026126]

>>12026124
37% uploaded to Mega!

[Anonymous No.12026144]

>>12026126
You've done a man's job, sir.

[Anonymous No.12026162]

>>12026144
(its an age old /mu/ meme)

[Anonymous No.12026190]

>>12026080
>the theoretical framework of cucking explains most phenomena desu

needs to be more exploration of the idea that both woke capital and accelerationism are both forms of cuckoldry to capital

[Anonymous No.12026216]

>>12026113
Why would I, as a reader, trust an author to define masculinity in an accurate and fair manner when this same author sees it as obsolete and inferior, worthy of derision and annihilation? This is the problem with an argument so dependent upon a gendered binary, it presupposes some sexual essence (accessible by the author of course) and certain fixed unchanging characteristics. One could just as easily define masculinity as dynamic, adaptive and transformative to subvert its entire schema.

[Anonymous No.12026224]

gender accelerationism advocates stopping the logic of reproduction, but then claims ownership of the future, but if there's no reproduction there's only present, you can't have the cake and eat it too

[Anonymous No.12026253]

>>12026224
Your purposely disregarding obvious technocapital solutions.

[Anonymous No.12026373]

>>12025896
>"lgbt and idpol arises out of late capital!"
>"capital has recuperated lgbt and commodified ideas that arose from us!"

lol

no wonder late-leftism is made up of woke-capital schizo trannies that listen to naughty npr podcasts like chapo trap house wherein the hustle-bustle beardo commurbans repeat a list of talking points from late night videodrome comedy shows and the female reps of a hr dept in the boeing weapons division

[Anonymous No.12026564]

http://www.ufblog.net/crypto-current-003/

AND A NEW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Anonymous No.12026576]

>>12026564
holy shit

Are we going to be getting a new post every day till it's complete?

[Anonymous No.12026589]

>>12026576
til the fucking thing is out and riddled with footnotes boi

q: if this is land, why is he not promoting it?
why is it being pushed out in a blogpost format in a blog that died year ago?

[Anonymous No.12026592]

>>12026564
>>12026576
is it any good so far? i feel lazy to read about crypto shit

[Anonymous No.12026595]

>>12026589
he likes to pretend he is posting in the dark web or some cool shit like that but can't into actual technology

[Anonymous No.12026596]

>>12026589
My guess is he wants his core fanbase to be his editors for him lmao
Let them find and correct any typos and errors before compiling it all into a single document.

[Anonymous No.12026601]

>>12026596
He probably knows better editors IRL, sounds weird.

[Anonymous No.12026607]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/may/11/accelerationism-how-a-fringe-philosophy-predicted-the-future-we-live-in

[Anonymous No.12026609]

>>12026607
>world/2017/may/11
thats like decade in internet time bruh..

[Anonymous No.12026615]

reminder that post #300 in Cosmotech bread completes the System of German Idealism (again).

there is also fresh Crypto-Current, shyeah boi
http://www.ufblog.net/

>>12026564
kek, beat me to it. nice nice

>>12026589
everybody knows it's him. and he's a fucking Grandmaster of Philosophy at this point. he should be wearing the Purple Sweater by now

>Critique is anti-Archimedean philosophy, and in this strict sense an intrinsic anti-rationalism. It is directed against the pretensions to super-ordinate theoretical leverage which define metaphysics. Every claim to exception from immanence falls prey to it. Its sole empirically exorbitant proposition is that the whole permits no oversight. No ‘view from above’ can be true. Critique thus supplies the schema for that flat epistemology which empiricism requires and fails, itself, to produce. Its historical mission is to make the world safe for empiricism (i.e. techno-science). It can therefore be understood as modernity’s watchdog. Liberal civilization knows no higher principle of security. Its enemies are ‘churches’ with global ambitions, which is to say universalizing abstract-ecclesiastical authorities. When all relevant terms are stripped of encrustation with maximum rigor, critique is accurately characterized as anarchism in philosophy. It is that, alone, which cannot know any higher law. Whatever tries to transcend it can only repeat it, or less. We call this time, which can never be anticipated or out-lasted. Above Temporalization there is nothing. To engage in critique is to think in the name of time.

so this is how Uncle Nick connects his project with Heidegger. he also seems to be saying - this is kind of amazing - that basically to do philosophy at all is to engage with technology at the deepest possible level, which is one (or more) steps beyond anything beyond critique. the real thing i find myself wondering is if my body is not in fact ready for this. at the deepest level, there is probably an insuperable gap between Cosmotechnics and Acceleration, if only because Land is arguing that there is only one thing called modernity, and arguing for it in about the most rigorous and face-fuckingly brilliant way possible.

it's a good *program* for philosophy, and he's going to leave a lot of people gnashing their teeth accordingly. this is going to be absolutely incredible to watch play out. my own sense is that there will never be any reason why you couldn't take what Land is saying and just use to optimize your *own* life rather than fantasize about techno-utopias (or, for that matter, utopias predicated on a kind of wholesale rejection of Land's ideas, in the name of things that cause Peterson to lose sleep over at night).

"Above Temporalization there is nothing." incredible stuff. this is some of the greatest fucking philosophy being written anywhere in the world today. i am absolutely enraptured by what is unfolding on this blog. 100%. Uncle Nick is throwing lightning bolts.

[Anonymous No.12026629]

also: how long is this thing going to be? right now he's at §0.032. is this thing going to be like 500 pages and just fundamentally re-program the Human Security System? i have no idea.

[Anonymous No.12026632]

>>12026615
> G*rman Idealism.

>>12026629
Maybe he left a hint in the blockchain.

[Anonymous No.12026640]

>>12026607
>The world is changing at dizzying speed – but for some thinkers, not fast enough
made me kek

[Anonymous No.12026657]

§0.032 — The target of critique is ‘metaphysics’ – conceived as a specifiable cognitive error. As determined by Kant, at the origin of the transcendental-critical enterprise, metaphysics is understood as the systematic attempt to apprehend (‘transcendental’ or ultimate) conditions of objectivity as if they were themselves objects. The repudiation of this effort can be summarized with approximate adequacy in a phrase that serves as a critical war cry: objectivity is not itself an object. This is to borrow freely from the critical framing of metaphysical error as it is found, compactly formulated, in the Heideggerian ‘fundamental ontological’ re-statement of transcendental philosophy. Being is not a being.*

so is this Capital-as-process philosophy? if Temporalization is machine process, doesn't this eventually put Land's project in Whitehead's reading room, in some sense? if 'objectivity itself is not an object,' and Being is not a being, what we have is a process metaphysics which takes place IRL as the computer that processes desire, and its teleoplectic productions. this all makes sense to me.

[Anonymous No.12026659]

>>12026564
This is so fucking good already

[Anonymous No.12026668]

>>12026657
He is going to tell you there's no metaphysics. Self-replicating, error fixing process has no room for it; this is extremely self-evident with application to A.I.

Bitcoin/blockchain has no room or need for it either.

[Anonymous No.12026671]

>>12026632
>Maybe he left a hint in the blockchain.
maybe. or maybe there is some ridiculous clue in his Twitter avi. i still don't know what the in-joke here is but it has to mean something.

[Anonymous No.12026679]

>>12026657
>It is the ideal of speculative philosophy that its fundamental notions shall not seem capable of abstraction from each other. In other words, it is presupposed that no entity can be conceived in complete abstraction from the system of the universe, and that it is the business of speculative philosophy to exhibit this truth. This character is coherence.

I think so

[Anonymous No.12026682]

>youwillalwaysbeanigger/acc

[Anonymous No.12026683]

>>12026679
isn't that what Hume already figured out when he critiqued "necessity"?

[Anonymous No.12026692]

>>12026683
Yep.

[Anonymous No.12026728]

>>12026683
>*starcraft adjutant appears*
>System of German Idealism
>complete
>Terminator music plays
>ch-chung-chung-ch-chung

fuuuuuuuckk~
~yeeeeessss
we did it boys

so David Hume completes the System of German Idealism (again)? that's interesting. apparently the ghost of Hume was still with Deleuze all the way to the end. less so, with Land, although what else is this, ultimately, but hyperstitial process metaphysics? how skeptical can we be about Capital? or is Capital only going to prove how right Hume was, in the end, about all of it? maybe it's better we don't know...

*whirr*
*ch-chunk*
*bzzz*
*sparks fly*
Cosmotech #11 is System-Complete, yeehaw! and holy smokes, this didn't take long either. like two days or something.

let us celebrate! we have closed another Cosmotech Loop! hmm...but with what? we need some kind of music that evokes mysterious promises, curses, hyperstition, witchcraft, debts and time-warps. bonus points if we can keep it thematic and in Hume's country. let's see...hmm....

Jethro Tull: Witch's Promise
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoXBmlWMIVg

Cosmotech #11 is in the bag. stand by for Cosmotech #12: This Time With Title Edition. will be up in a bit

gj anons
very gj anons

[Anonymous No.12027032]

>>12026682
I don't see why people are worried about race-mixing since /aclr8 means ai and genetic alteration whichg means all our kids will be pansexual human dolphin hybrids smoking on legal lsd.

[Anonymous No.12027068]

>>12027032
kek, must be fun getting paid for writing that garbage, at least you get to be creative in your memeing, mainstream garbage all sounds the same... and that's a good thing

[Anonymous No.12027089]

new thread

>>12027035

[Anonymous No.12027102]

>>12027032
>Implying genetic alteration doesn't mean that every person in the future will be white
Asians are already doing plastic surgery to look more European.

Also, not really sure how "pansexual human dolphin hybrids smoking on legal lsd" follows from AI or genetic alteration. If anything, wouldn't any gene containing undesirable qualities like abnormal sexual behavior, mental illness or drug use be eliminated? And wouldn't an AI try to contain any of these unproductive & destructive behaviors?

[Anonymous No.12027113]

>>12027102
so basically make anime real?

[Anonymous No.12027119]

>>12027089
damn, forgot the image.

[Anonymous No.12028099]

Bump

[Anonymous No.12028194]

>>12028182
>quoting the newer thread from the bump limit reached older thread
is this teleoplexy?

[Anonymous No.12028651]

It's either accelerate or anarcho-primitivism, middle-grounders will grant annihilation

[Anonymous No.12029440]

Bump