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[Anonymous No.11982521]

Logic relies on certain assumptions in order to function.

How are these assumptions selected prior to logic being established?

[Anonymous No.11982560]

By the need for selection.

[Anonymous No.11982596]

How can we comment on the selection if logic hasn't been established?

This is outside the scope of logic, which facilitates this discussion.

You might as well ask what exists beyond the boundary of the universe, or what came before the big bang

[Anonymous No.11982658]

intuition i think

[Anonymous No.11982686]

>>11982560
necessity does not confer meaning inherently

[Anonymous No.11982692]

They are not. All logic is built from observation. Logical systems assign truth in ways both similar and differing to those around them based through observation. As the being emerges and begins to learn more about the world it replaces false assumptions with true axioms.

Inb4
>b-but how does a being know 1+1=2 when it’s born then huh?
It doesn’t. It first has to grasp the concept of 1 and 2. From there it has to understand addition. A freshborn child has no notion of addition or numbers. It has to learn these things before it can learn others.

[Anonymous No.11982701]

Logic only promises consistency within it's own assumptions. Thus the selected assumptions are those that promise a result when logic is applied.

[Anonymous No.11982712]

>>11982692
>As the being emerges and begins to learn more about the world it replaces false assumptions with true axioms.

Presumably truth in this context is defined by adherence to/prediction of observed experience?

[Anonymous No.11982731]

>>11982712
I didn’t explain that part very well. Basically the being observes the laws of the universe in action and builds models of logic based off of these laws. The being may construct a false model and since said false model is not grounded on a law it will be discarded. Therefore truth is models which are, assuming the model is built correctly, models which stand upon laws and can be inquisited while keeping sturdy

[Anonymous No.11982755]

>>11982731
Naturally, truth in such a context is an approximation at best

[Anonymous No.11982777]

all logical systems are founded on the arbitrary selection of axiom

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[Anonymous No.11982815]

Axioms were probably selected based on observation of natural phenomena, like Euclid's axioms about lines being drawn between two points, etc.

[Anonymous No.11982849]

>>11982755
Yes, that’s why dialogue exists. To discard untrue logical systems and to keep and refine true one

[Anonymous No.11982934]

I have hands

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