Why have I read so many amazing books and poems written by men detailing their love and infatuation with women but never the opposite? Do women really like men or do they just see us as a means to an end (security, children, etc)?

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Anonymous Wed Oct 24 05:02:50 2018 No.11980406 [Reply] [Original]

Why have I read so many amazing books and poems written by men detailing their love and infatuation with women but never the opposite? Do women really like men or do they just see us as a means to an end (security, children, etc)?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 24 05:05:33 2018 No.11980411 women love men only as personal affectations and accessories, just read some Brnte or Asten

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 24 05:06:39 2018 No.11980418 >>11980406 You make the assumption that women can love in the first place. It's not a choice on their part.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 24 07:18:47 2018 No.11980749 >>11980406 They cant love like men do.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 24 07:20:31 2018 No.11980756 >>11980406 a woman can desire you physically or be dependent upon you socially/financially but she will never ever give a shit about whether you're dead or alive.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 24 07:32:18 2018 No.11980783 >>11980406 >women are more rational than men Possible but unlikely. I'd guess it's more down to cultural factors that made obsessing about a woman socially acceptable.

Anonymous Wed Oct 24 07:36:13 2018 No.11980793

Just think about it in terms of evolution: men are disposable. One man can impregnate the whole tribe. Women were evolved to don't care much about the individual man, just their children and what he can provide to her. You have that and the fact that men are the ones who have to initiate the relationship, this means that men evolved to prefer just a few girls, because a single man can't try his luck with the whole tribe, it's too mentally exhausting, and pointless, because the female has an array of options, is simply statistically unlikely that you'll get chosen for more than 2 or 3. On the other hand, females can easily manage all of the pretendents (it's much less exhausting to just wait and get entertained by the men) and select the most genetically fitted. Basically, women just lust for you and that's it, they don't feel the metaphysical transcendent love that poets of the past were full to the brim with it. Past the 36 month period in which the chemicals of love are said to expire, women just continue with you because of societal pressures. Liberate polygamy and no women will ever marry again.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 24 07:36:24 2018 No.11980794 >>11980406 and guess who gets the fame of only talking about the opposite sex and having nothing more to talk about?

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Anonymous Wed Oct 24 07:52:17 2018 No.11980826

>>11980406
>Why have I read so many amazing books and poems written by men detailing their love and infatuation with women but never the opposite?

Pretty standard result of standard courtship culture (nay, biology). Most women prefer to be pursued and propositioned by the man, not the other way around.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 24 07:53:53 2018 No.11980832 >>11980801 Triggered

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 24 07:55:01 2018 No.11980837 >>11980794 They do that but not in a poetic or meaningful

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 24 07:57:19 2018 No.11980847 >>11980756 This reminds me of why the titanic movie was so successful. Women want a man who would willingly sacrifice his life for her, rarely the other way around though

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 24 08:18:59 2018 No.11980904 File: 18 KB, 633x758, proxy.duckduckgo.com.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >she will never love you for who you are

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 24 08:25:25 2018 No.11980920 File: 27 KB, 380x506, images (32).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11980756 >>11980847 >Drop dead gorgeous but the bitch ain't dyin' for a nigga

Proud Social Justice Warrior !BgjMIiqmkk Wed Oct 24 08:32:16 2018 No.11980937

fuck me there are some dumb people here. Romance fiction is very difficult to write and the overwhelming majority of writers are women. But according to you guys that shit is trash and we have to read something manly like the Sharpe's series.

>women never gave me love ergo they are incapable of it

get over yourselves.

Proud Social Justice Warrior !BgjMIiqmkk Wed Oct 24 08:36:55 2018 No.11980945

>>11980937
ok that was a bit over the top. Look I've been treated like shit by many women and it hasn't always been about love either....you should really give them another chance and try not to be so close minded like OP.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 24 08:40:44 2018 No.11980953 Because the object of those professions isn't women, neither is it anything outside those men nor analogous to something to which women write. Whether this object is one common among men is debatable as well.

Anonymous Wed Oct 24 08:45:44 2018 No.11980960

>gf pursued me aggresively, decided on the first day of meeting me that she wants me for life
>gf is rich and makes more money than me
>treats me like a king and is obsessed with me.
>been together for years now and still obsessed with each other
Lol@the faggots ITT

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 24 08:46:08 2018 No.11980961 >>11980801 >scientific "sexism" Does not matter how you label it, if it's true and a fact you can only go into the denial, but that wont help you either.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 24 08:48:15 2018 No.11980963 >>11980937 >>11980945 Ultimately catering and defending women is waste of brain power, as long as you secure off springs, a sex machine and mood up lifter, everything else having to do with the women is pointless and waste of resources.

>>	Proud Social Justice Warrior !BgjMIiqmkk Wed Oct 24 08:51:16 2018 No.11980974 >>11980963 >secure offsprings Why is this important, are they not a waste of resources?

Anonymous Wed Oct 24 08:51:48 2018 No.11980976

>>11980937
women dominate the erotic section (because they only can lust for a man, this has been proven). go read one of these 'romantic' books. no depth, no skill, no discernable talent. their idea of love isn't trancedental, like that of male poets. they think on terms of status, beauty, height, how much my femal friends will envy me for being with this guy etc look buddy, when was the last time you saw a woman die for a man, or fight (physically) for him? now, i don't think anyone here would want women, who are obviously physically inferior, to get into a fight for you. but think about it, suppose the male in the relationship is getting his ass beaten really badly, to the point that he's almost dying. if the femal really loved him, she'd forget about the strength differences and just blindly attack the other guy, trying to save her bf, right? well, i happen to work at a bar, i've seen this happen a lot. the femal just won't do anything, she'd rather get to safety and then she screams "stop it please, stop it" but she'll never sacrifice her physical integrity for her men. i think this is natural and preferable, but also this shows that women simply can't love man.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 24 08:53:20 2018 No.11980979 >>11980976 No it shows that they love differently.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 24 08:53:29 2018 No.11980981 >>11980961 it's like "scientific racism". it's funny and sad at the same time science is confirming "prejudices" that we had for thousand of years. since the beginning we knew that some people were smarter than others and that women weren't among them

Anonymous Wed Oct 24 08:53:42 2018 No.11980982

>>11980974
Not having off springs make you a waste of resources for thousands of generations before.

So no matter the amount of resources you put into your off spring can even begin to match the waste to your forefathers if you don't secure it.

But I personally don't care about you either way, will be happy that my off spring will have less competition in life.

Anonymous Wed Oct 24 08:54:52 2018 No.11980989

>>11980979
yeah, what i mean is that women will never love men with the same intensity, with that "i'll sacrifice everything for you" love. they love men as long as men can provide things for them. i think it's fine in the long run, but males shouldn't be delusional that their partners really love them

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 24 08:55:20 2018 No.11980990 >>11980979 How do they love differently? What I see is lust.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 24 08:57:20 2018 No.11980995 >all this biological reductionism Kill yourselves.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 24 08:57:28 2018 No.11980996 Reading this thread I'm seeing what I always see when incels congregate, incels always, and I mean ALWAYS, critique women for not being like men. You guys are really just faggots in denial. Just accept your gay and get over it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 24 08:58:14 2018 No.11980998 >Male escapism: fall in love with a virgin woman, get married and stay loyal to her for life, raising a family together >Female escapism: get with a rich Chad or a criminal or something who treats you like shit and beats you Hmm..

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 24 08:59:29 2018 No.11981000 >>11980989 My gf moved from her country (which is a richer country than mine) and quit her job just to be with me. You faggots just don't understand women or love.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 24 09:00:22 2018 No.11981003 >>11980996 i unironically wish i was gay. but men are fucking disgusting. it's hell being a virgin woman hater honestly. like, women live in my head 24/7 rent free i cant stop thinking about them i'm just so horny and lonely fuckkkkkkk

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 24 09:01:36 2018 No.11981005 >>11980981 >it's like "scientific racism" Not at all. One is relatively modern, the other is omnipresent throughout all cultures.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 24 09:03:06 2018 No.11981010 >>11981003 Gayest thing I've ever read.

>>	Proud Social Justice Warrior !BgjMIiqmkk Wed Oct 24 09:03:22 2018 No.11981011 >>11980982 was hoping you would have an original answer instead of being generic male with a false sense of self. Last paragraph madr me laugh tho, so if it was intentional then good job.

Anonymous Wed Oct 24 09:03:37 2018 No.11981014

Isn't all instances of romantic attraction ultimately rooted in sexual attraction? Both the male and female lusts after each other. The only difference is that males will obscure and confuse their lust for something more spiritual like "love." I've met several men and women who have told me of their romantic interests and their accounts were both equally that of trasncendental love you people claim only men experience.

This notion that women can't feel the same love a man can, where did it come from? A reactionary movement to the hijacked feminism of today perhaps?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 24 09:04:25 2018 No.11981016 >>11981003 Yeah, I wish I was gay. I hate women so much but I can't stop being attracted to them. I thought maybe my sex drive would calm down as I got near 30 but it just gets worse, honestly.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 24 09:04:25 2018 No.11981017 >>11981011 Like I said. You can freely die off, I have no duty of instilling common sense into someone that is delusional, there are therapists for that you can seek.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 24 09:05:11 2018 No.11981019 >>11981011 Liberals like you are literally being outbred. All those shitskins and muslims you're propping up will eventually replace you. And they aren't going to be liberal.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 24 09:06:31 2018 No.11981022 >>11981016 Imagine being this mentally weak. No wonder women don't want you bro, they can sense when you're a little bitch.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 24 09:12:12 2018 No.11981036 >>11981022 I haven't tried to get a woman in about a decade, so whether they want me isn't something particularly relevant to me.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 24 09:12:46 2018 No.11981040 >>11981036 How does that even happen? Are you 60+ and obese?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 24 09:13:28 2018 No.11981042 >>11980996 >waaaaaaaaaaaah incels

Anonymous Wed Oct 24 09:13:35 2018 No.11981043

>>11980995
imagine that after all the scientific evidence on intelligence, behavioral genetics and neurobiology you still believe in muh free will and that life isn't controlled by genetic expression. China superpower when? they have no fear of the scientific truths.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 24 09:14:38 2018 No.11981047 >>11981040 no i'm just ugly and socially stunted. after all the rejections you just accept your life and move on

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 24 09:15:48 2018 No.11981050 >>11981040 I'm 28. Is the idea that inconceivable to you? I had a girlfriend for a while in high school but that's it.

Anonymous Wed Oct 24 09:16:14 2018 No.11981052

>>11981042
Let's be honest, you're closer to being an incel than you not being an incel.
>>11981043
That's because fate has been a big part of Chinese culture for 5000 years. The belief in free will is one of the reasons the West went ahead of everyone in every field for centuries. Genetic determnism leads to a stunted culture, China basically just copies the West in everything.

>>	Proud Social Justice Warrior !BgjMIiqmkk Wed Oct 24 09:16:55 2018 No.11981053 >>11981019 nah I'm probably levelling the playing field. My dad had 9 children and 6 of them have at least one child each.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 24 09:17:49 2018 No.11981056 >>11981053 1 child isn't above replacement levels.

Anonymous Wed Oct 24 09:19:54 2018 No.11981064

>>11981052
genetic determinism is simply the truth. the west flourished because of its genetics, more importantly, the constant state of war that washed away the sea of genetic garbage in europe. the black plague, wwi,wwii, the fall of rome, crusades, protestantism and so on were all big eugenics happenings that consolidated europe's power. china not only lacks that, but also lacks creativity, which's also genetically determined.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 24 09:20:35 2018 No.11981065 >>11981052 And if you’re whining about incels on 4chan you’re pretty close to being a feminist.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 24 09:21:35 2018 No.11981067 >>11981064 >genetic determinism is simply the truth. Not according to geneticists.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 24 09:22:51 2018 No.11981073 >>11981065 I'm a reactionary and believe women belong to men. 1 women and 1 man, the women should belong stay at home taking care of children and the household. The man should go out and provide for his family.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 24 09:24:31 2018 No.11981077 >>11981067 So if both of your parents posses recessive genes only you are not predetermined by those genes when conceived? That a new great hypothesis you have, why not try for a Nobel prize?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 24 09:25:34 2018 No.11981078 >>11981073 >I'm a reactionary No you are a faschist hitler nazi kys

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 24 09:25:56 2018 No.11981081 >>11981077 The fact you think such an oversimplified argument is legtitimate tells me everthing I need to know about you.

>>	Proud Social Justice Warrior !BgjMIiqmkk Wed Oct 24 09:26:00 2018 No.11981082 >>11981056 I said at least one each. I will end up with over 20 nephews and nieces at this rate because they're all just as narcissistic as my father is.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 24 09:27:01 2018 No.11981087 >>11981081 Study biology brainlet. I feel so sorry to tell you, but your father might not be the one who raised you.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 24 09:27:12 2018 No.11981088 >>11981082 Exception. Most liberals aren't having lots of kids.

Anonymous Wed Oct 24 09:29:20 2018 No.11981095

>>11981067
anon, i've had the chance to talk to geneticists and psychologists. it's not hard, just send an email to people in your college, most of the time they'll be happy to answer you. anyway, most of psychologists and geneticists agree that, Intelligence, behavioral traits such as agressiveness, passivity and so on, height, political opinions (this one kinda shocked me at the time but then i realized it made a lot of sense), even entertainment choices are also genetic.
>b-but muh enviroment
i don't know why leftists think that the enviroment is less deterministic than genetics. well, i guess is because they think that we're conquered earth's enviroment, so that must means what is enviromental is under our control, r-right? Wrong. our control of the enviroment comes not from a free will but gene-enviroment expressions. there's no free action to be had in any human ever. you're a literal biological machine and that's it. even your thoughts and choices are selected by the brain before you can conciously (it's an ilusion) "chose" something. this is not controversial in mainstream genetics and neurobiological studies. go talk to a few professors and they'll confirm what i'm saying.

Anonymous Wed Oct 24 09:30:14 2018 No.11981097
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>>11981073
Imagine being a woman and thinking this is bad. Imagine having the privilege of being able to stay at home with the kids all day and just keep the house generally clean and keep everyone fed. Imagine thinking this is a sexist concept. They really got fucking swindled with the whole neoliberal pseudo empowering girlboss nonsense taking them out of the home and shoving them into the work force hell cycle

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 24 09:31:59 2018 No.11981104 >>11981082 Yes let them inherit everything you own because you are even worse of a selfish narcissist. I guess everything has it's price, especially childless life.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 24 09:32:54 2018 No.11981109 >>11981095 Of course there is a genetic component, but that component itself is influenced by the environment. I'm not arguing against genetics, I'm arguing against the unscientific genetic determinism the other guy was spouting.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 24 09:35:06 2018 No.11981122 >>11981109 >someone has genes to be a manlet >is a manlet WHOW SHOCKING RIGHT?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 24 09:39:47 2018 No.11981128 File: 126 KB, 1200x800, GettyImages_587169617.0.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >/lit/ discussing women I suppose talking about books you've never read is perfect training for you guys to talk about women

>>	Proud Social Justice Warrior !BgjMIiqmkk Wed Oct 24 09:40:48 2018 No.11981129 >>11981088 I don't think you could classify most of them as liberals anyway desu...which I guess works out for the anti-muslim agenda of the future (which I couldn't give a fuck about either way).

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 24 09:41:05 2018 No.11981131 >>11981095 >confusing an actual fact like determinism with genetical determinism meme

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 24 09:43:54 2018 No.11981138 >>11981073 >you want women to get to sit at home all day in luxury while the man has to work a shitty 9 to 5 job everyday and/or be conscripted and die in a war So you’re a right-wing feminist?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 24 09:46:04 2018 No.11981147 >>11981138 No he wants to make women the slaves of luxury and pleasure. He is bigoted because he does not want to let women suffer same as men. It's her choice to deny herself of peaceful life god damn it!

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 24 09:49:13 2018 No.11981157 >>11981122 People have been growing taller and taller every generation for centuries now due to increased diets. In most cases, people could have been normal height with a better diet.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 24 09:50:29 2018 No.11981163 >>11981138 Taking care of children, especially lots of them, is not an easy job. I certainly couldn't do it all day, everyday. Lots of women can, and they enjoy it,

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 24 09:51:53 2018 No.11981169 >>11981163 The man has to raise the child to, only after getting home from a miserable day of work

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 24 09:54:14 2018 No.11981173 >>11981169 That's life son.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 24 09:57:04 2018 No.11981182 >>11981097 It sounds pretty bad to me, I'd much rather waste my time working/studying.

Anonymous Wed Oct 24 10:05:20 2018 No.11981210

>>11980976
There are multiple clips out there where the woman wants to step in and gets knocked out with one hit, just for the guy to get beaten up further. Running and screaming for help is much more effective and ingrained in the female brain. This doesn't mean they don't love their men, it means evolution made them use their "weapons" instead of acting like a guy without the power to hit like one.

Anonymous Wed Oct 24 10:06:47 2018 No.11981215

women are just as capable of obsessing over people as men. on average, men tend to be less successful than women in getting what they want (or becoming comfortable with what they have), so you're more likely to see a man's obsession than a woman's. so basically, the explanation is evo psych and sexual marketplace but without directly poisoning the humanity of women. it sucks that guys have it harder, but the task of picking an ideal mate isnt easy for women either, and there's a reason why the exploits of men are remembered while the exploits of women are usually forgotten

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 24 10:08:46 2018 No.11981217 >>11981215 >>11981215 >exploits of men are remembered while the exploits of women are usually forgotten Explain. There are plenty of famous whores

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 24 10:12:01 2018 No.11981224 >>11981182 You're most likely going to be depressed and miserable when you're in your 40s and you wasted your best years, just like most feminists.

Anonymous Wed Oct 24 10:14:51 2018 No.11981233

>>11981210
exactly, but see, love isn't supposed to be a rational thing. humans have no free action and are slaves to their genetic expressions. that female example extends through other areas of life as well. they are simply not made to love a single man, and definitely not made to love a man like a man loves a woman. tribes were small, they didn't have the privillege of reproducing with only one guy because that would mean the tribe would die of insufficient offspring. it's rooted in their brain to think first of their physical well being and their children (actually the children comes first in dangerous situations).

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 24 10:16:08 2018 No.11981236 >>11981217 >there are plenty of famous whores You said it with your exact words. Hellen of Troy is famous precisely because she was a whore

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 24 10:27:20 2018 No.11981276 >>11981236 So the exploits of women aren’t usually forgotten...

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 24 10:30:08 2018 No.11981285 >>11981236 >Helen of Troy That's a fictional character mate

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 24 10:30:31 2018 No.11981286 >>11981276 because of the exploits of men that followed

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 24 10:32:51 2018 No.11981297 >>11981276 Will your peepee get hard for once if you pathetically defend women, or is it just self righteousness?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 24 10:34:48 2018 No.11981303 File: 271 KB, 540x473, EDCDB9D1-E550-4F36-ACDF-5D4B070B0C46.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11981215 >99% of men are forgotten by history >the other 1% are mostly men >therefore “men” are remembered and women aren’t

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 24 10:35:51 2018 No.11981306 >>11981303 that's right. any questions?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 24 10:37:58 2018 No.11981309 >>11981306 Yes. Why are you saying “men” when it’s not applicable to even a sizable minority of men? There are almost the same amount of men forgotten by history as women. Do you mean to say “Great Men?”

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 24 10:39:51 2018 No.11981317 >>11981303 Less than 1%. Far less.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 24 10:40:02 2018 No.11981320 >>11980960 >>gf pursued me aggresively, decided on the first day of meeting me that she wants me for life what did you do in order to have someone to be obssesed with you since day one?

Anonymous Wed Oct 24 10:41:43 2018 No.11981324

>>11981309
if everyone was worth remembering, then nobody is worth remembering. it goes without saying that only a fraction of people will do things that are memorable. you're making a transparently dumb and pathetic argument. 99% of men might be forgotten, but at least some are remembered for their exploits and virtues, and even entire generations can be remembered for a particular admirable quality. what can you say about the other sex?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 24 10:42:05 2018 No.11981325 >>11981309 Great men are spooks

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 24 10:43:13 2018 No.11981329 >>11980960 And you're the one talking about her and not the other way around.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 24 10:43:35 2018 No.11981330 >>11981309 INCEL my dear you will not get vagina by shilling for another gender on Mongolian throat whistling cat calling forum. You are impressing no one with your virtue signaling.

Anonymous Wed Oct 24 10:44:00 2018 No.11981334

>>11981324
That it happens with women too. Joan of Arc, Cleopatra, Boudicca, Catherine, Victoria, just to name some off the top of my head. And those women did far less than some of the great men of history.
So this “waaah wymyn are oppressed by history waaaaah men get remembered based womXXn don’t waaaaah” doesn’t hold weight when women DO get remembered, sometimes over not that much, whereas more than 99% of men don’t.
Go cry on tumblr.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 24 10:44:28 2018 No.11981337 >>11981334 they get remembered for acting like men another roastie btfo

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 24 10:45:08 2018 No.11981341 >>11981320 Unironically just be myself.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 24 10:46:39 2018 No.11981346 >>11981337 >they get remembered for acting like men Now this is deep.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 24 10:46:47 2018 No.11981348 >>11981341 c´mon, i want a real answer, most males (at least the normie ones) are being themselves all the time and i don´t see women being obssesed with them all the time

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 24 10:47:00 2018 No.11981349 File: 26 KB, 150x148, CA5EB214-4EF7-4F48-8AA8-EDB0A259951D.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11981337 >called roastie >when I’m arguing from a point that women aren’t treated unfairly by history Shouldn’t you be calling me an incel instead?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 24 10:48:15 2018 No.11981356 >>11980995 >biological reductionism the last meme buzzword defense of the humanities student forced to confront the implications of darwinian evolution

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 24 10:49:24 2018 No.11981362 >>11981341 What other anon is probably asking, yet phasing it wrongly. Have you talked to her what was the thing that made her knew immediately you are the one? Most importantly is it physical or mental personalty, or both?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 24 10:51:02 2018 No.11981369 >>11981356 >humanities student forced to confront the implications of darwinian evolution Yet then they use Darwinian Evolution when shilling against religion, tradition and hierarchy, even though every of those things if a by product of evolution.

Anonymous Wed Oct 24 10:53:39 2018 No.11981378

>>11981233
This isn't rational behaviour, it's animalistic. Just like a guy which would safe a women, even if he'S not into her. It hs nothing to do with love to risk your male life for a female one. It'S evolution telling you that your life is worth less than that of a fertile female, no matter your feelings for her.

You think that this animalistic part of the male brain means love, but really that's just coping for the fact that you yourself want to die to safe a woman. Stop trying to make into into something else.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 24 10:54:42 2018 No.11981383 >>11981303 What matters is genetical success not history, and women have a 17 times higher probability to reprodude than men.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 24 10:55:39 2018 No.11981390 >>11981383 I agree

Anonymous Wed Oct 24 10:56:28 2018 No.11981393

>>11981369
>religion, tradition and hierarchy,
>a by product of evolution.
Im a hard determinist but this is maybe too much even for me. Culture, technology, whatever the fuck this new stage of reality is, it follows different rules than biological evolution, it is on a higher plane of abstraction. We can say that evolution caused these things to emerge, but I don't think we can reduce them to it.

That being said culture doesn't negate or even mostly supplant biological imperatives, which still dominate our behavior. BUt it does harness them in ways in which we clearly do not understand given our inability to predict how civilizations develop with any sort of accuracy, or our understanding of our technology progresses.

Anonymous Wed Oct 24 10:57:04 2018 No.11981394

>>11981348
>>11981362
To be brief, we spoke about life and what we wanted from it. I outlined a basic traditional life: lots of children, loyalty to each other, complete honesty/dependence on each other, life long marriage, and traditional gender roles. We strive to be the lovey dovey couple everyone cringes at. And yes, the physical component mattered, we both found each other very physically attractive.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 24 11:03:30 2018 No.11981404 >>11981394 Well that makes sense. It's a perfect date if I can imagine one, not only to find each other attractive but also share same ideals. Good luck to both of you anon.

Anonymous Wed Oct 24 11:08:03 2018 No.11981414

>>11980406
1. Most women suck at writing. Only Sappho from Lesbos wrote good love poems. And she was lesbian, so she had a male brain basically.
2. Women feel, but they dont understand the feeling. Thats why asking women for advice on feelings always fails. And how can you write about something that you dont understand?
3. A womens heart has only enough unconditional love for herself and her children, that were a part of her. The husband is only loved as long as he continues to do something for her.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 24 11:14:39 2018 No.11981428 >>11981404 We didn't go on a date, we met on the internet. We bacame commited to each other before we physically met, which I still think is pretty crazy to this day, but that's how it happened.

Anonymous Wed Oct 24 11:36:41 2018 No.11981497

>>11980406
when a woman loves a man shes goes to him and shows him her love, when a man loves a whom he seeks to exploit the emotion for social and financial gain. not really, the actual truth is that poetic or romantic love isn't actually an emotion but a fiction invented by libertine perverts to make their degenerate sexual behaviours seem noble. When a woman is rejected by a man she moves on, when a woman wants to shit on her spouses chest she tells him, if he says no she moves on. If the same things happen to a man the pain of rejection is too great so he thinks 'I'm so deep, that bitch didn't understand me, I need to convince everyone that what I did was an expression of something beautiful'.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 24 11:47:08 2018 No.11981528 I don't care about all this shit I just want to experience love before I kill myself.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 24 11:52:24 2018 No.11981546 >>11981497 Wrong.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 24 12:26:29 2018 No.11981671 >>11981497 this is one of the more retarded posts I've ever seen on this website, which is certainly an achievement

Anonymous Wed Oct 24 18:03:37 2018 No.11983017

>>11981497
>When a woman is rejected by a man she moves on
not always
>when a woman wants to shit on her spouses chest she tells him
depends on how shy the woman is
>f the same things happen to a man the pain of rejection is too great
only for immature men (of which there are heaps of today)

>>	Proud Social Justice Warrior !BgjMIiqmkk Wed Oct 24 18:06:54 2018 No.11983030 >>11980976 Have you ever read any romance fiction? Or are you basing this off a stereotype.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 24 18:43:11 2018 No.11983195 File: 1.78 MB, 1440x1485, 1528227223475.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11980920 After spending most of high school listening to gangster rap I became subconsciously redpill as fuck.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 24 19:23:04 2018 No.11983404 >>11981014 This is obviously false, because a man will still fight to defend his wife even when she's past menopause.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 24 19:44:13 2018 No.11983498 >>11980406 We have better things to talk about darling

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 24 19:54:47 2018 No.11983544 >>11983030 yes, i've read them, i know they're trash

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 24 19:58:19 2018 No.11983562 >>11980406 Holy shit imagine having that much money and wearing cheap Ray-Bans, absolutely dropped what a dumb kike

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 24 20:11:12 2018 No.11983625 >>11980826 Don't bother trying to sound intelligent by using a word like "nay" when what you have to say is blindingly dogshit obvious

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 24 20:55:14 2018 No.11983841 >>11980406 Art is a masculine pursuit.

Anonymous Wed Oct 24 21:03:58 2018 No.11983880

>>11980406
Look, it's not that women can't love, they just don't fall in love as fast and easily as men do. Yes, there are goldiggers, women who only want money from men but there are also men who only want sex from women. Both sides are fucked up in their own way.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 24 21:05:42 2018 No.11983886 >>11981497 Too much bullshit even for /lit/'s standards.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 24 21:09:45 2018 No.11983899 File: 94 KB, 712x618, 1536105070948.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11980937

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 24 23:05:05 2018 No.11984411 >>11980904 i know. how to cope with this feel?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 25 00:38:02 2018 No.11984815 >>11981414 Speaking as someone who got a kid with a woman I loved deeply, went through hard times and saw the relationship deteriorate, this seems more or less correct. I take no pleasure in saying this.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 25 00:45:49 2018 No.11984837 >>11983562 he looks cool

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 25 00:53:51 2018 No.11984866 >>11983562 it's cuz his money is from his father being the biggest slumlord in new jersey lol

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 25 00:59:22 2018 No.11984882 Incel needs to be filtered into woke or something. These normals are getting obnoxious

Proud Social Justice Warrior !BgjMIiqmkk Thu Oct 25 01:09:13 2018 No.11984920

>>11983544
damn shame you feel that way, but not everyone has to be as cringeworthy as I am.

>>11983899
dunno if you are the same poster but I've already mentioned that I'm aware of what I'm doing. I'll continue to justify it everytime you post this to stroke my own ego.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 25 01:20:28 2018 No.11984959 >>11984837 He looks like an effeminate weakling who hasn't done a days honest work in his life.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 25 06:56:00 2018 No.11985734 File: 68 KB, 1010x897, 1527596491910.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11981528

Anonymous Thu Oct 25 08:25:11 2018 No.11985931

>>11984411
you can deny it and remain in the realm of Hollywood romance that you were drowned in since you are a kid.

You can also take the "red pill" and watch PUAs with names like "AlphaMasculinity" or corny names like that on YouTube and fake a path towards "knowledge" who is simply a defense mechanism against your underlying psychological issues. Basically becoming a shallow moron with an inferiority complex. It's a way to sublimate things but in the end you have your head so stuck in your own ass you can't fathom any other way to look at things.

Those two are 2 sides of the same coin. You get caught in some sort of ideology. The whole red pill thing has some good insights but the whole community around it is a shitty echo chamber.

There is also the whole MGTOW thing which is absolutely retarded simply because you don't need to identify to a group for something who is basically "stop chasing bitches, focus on improving yourself", in the end improvement is a mean to attract mates. I doubt it's a really genuine movement.

Or you cope with your own way. I'm not the kind who believe in trur love and all that shit. At some point there are things you are not really supposed to learn the way we do. You see things around you basically proving every point you wish weren't entirely true. I still have a romantic longing despite that. It's kinda hidden and not really expressed. But the way I live still imply its presence. I still lay down and have this nostalgia for things that will never be.
Resentment will remain, there is nothing to do about it except keep it in check and be aware of it.

Women don't really like me because I am not an especially good looking guy and I don't give the attention they feel entitled to by an average male. I don't want to dance around them like a clown to compensate for what I don't have, because it isn't about the other, it's about yourself.

They don't want you, they want themselves and vice versa.

That's why I have sympathy for 4chan, 8ch and imageboards in general (except the normie and the degenerate ones) A lot of us have the same struggles and issues and we cope by shitposting at one another. Content may be shit and going downhill because of exposure. But it's still there.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 25 08:47:12 2018 No.11986010 >>11984959 Which looks cool

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 25 08:54:36 2018 No.11986029 >>11980406 Women love children.

>>	Proud Social Justice Warrior !BgjMIiqmkk Thu Oct 25 08:58:29 2018 No.11986039 >>11981104 well...maybe. thanks for encouraging me to breed btw.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 25 09:07:50 2018 No.11986065 >>11986029 women are children

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 25 09:08:51 2018 No.11986066 >>11980406 Christ this dude needs a deeper voice

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 25 09:24:44 2018 No.11986104 because men fucking suck dumbass

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 25 10:30:08 2018 No.11986290 >>11986065 not like you, you're a big boy

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 25 11:08:00 2018 No.11986458 >>11986104 this but unironically

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 25 11:24:32 2018 No.11986515 >>11981224 >cooking and cleaning is not waisting your best years they are fucking around in college and then working and having one ot two kids, it's a correct balance imo

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 25 11:37:03 2018 No.11986554 >>11985931 Thank you anon

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 25 14:35:03 2018 No.11987197 >>11986458 i wasnt being ironic in the slightest

Anonymous Thu Oct 25 14:52:54 2018 No.11987268

>>11981236
>Hellen of Troy is famous precisely because she was a whore
>Hellen (HeLLen)
>real historical person

I guess you intelligence isn't part of your family's genetic makeup.
Too bad you can't d shit about it because it's genetically determined. Reading books won't help.

Anonymous Thu Oct 25 14:58:07 2018 No.11987286
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>>11984920
holy shit fuck off you dumb tripfag

I hate you you're literally a fucking brainlet who thinks his natural, retarded stubbornness marks him out as some enlightened user.

wouldn't even be surprised if you were a chick or gay because u somehow obviously feel a deep and desperate need for attention otherwise you wouldn't be a tripfag. if your ideas were actually good and worth conversation then people would talk to u if u were just a regular anon

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 25 15:32:09 2018 No.11987409 >>11980406 >Do women really like men or do they just see us as a means to an end (security, children, etc)? The latter.

>>	Proud Social Justice Warrior !BgjMIiqmkk Thu Oct 25 15:35:08 2018 No.11987432 >>11987286 holy shit...my feelings...

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 25 15:36:44 2018 No.11987440 >>11980406 women writers haven't announced that they were women. and men being historically dominant in the public sphere means that we have more records of men writing/publishing

Anonymous Thu Oct 25 15:36:58 2018 No.11987442
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>>11980406
>who is Elizabeth Barrett Browning

How do I love thee? Let me count the ways.
I love thee to the depth and breadth and height
My soul can reach, when feeling out of sight
For the ends of being and ideal grace.
I love thee to the level of every day’s
Most quiet need, by sun and candle-light.
I love thee freely, as men strive for right.
I love thee purely, as they turn from praise.
I love thee with the passion put to use
In my old griefs, and with my childhood’s faith.
I love thee with a love I seemed to lose
With my lost saints. I love thee with the breath,
Smiles, tears, of all my life; and, if God choose,
I shall but love thee better after death.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 25 15:50:05 2018 No.11987532 File: 176 KB, 1280x720, 3A77DDED-B456-4BD9-B224-843A5C4DBF81.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11981128 Underrated post

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 25 15:55:31 2018 No.11987566 >>11980904 No one will. Get over yourself. Part of any healthy relationship is a silent acknowledgment that neither participant can understand the other in full.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 25 16:59:13 2018 No.11987818 >>11987197 nice

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 25 17:15:05 2018 No.11987880 >>11980411 Austen is satire.

Anonymous Thu Oct 25 17:17:52 2018 No.11987900

>>11987566
In practice one person understands the other very well and doesnt care that much about them, while the other has a mystified image of the former and obsesses over them.

SImplified of course, there are other sorts of relationships, but this is the main one.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 25 20:36:32 2018 No.11988716 File: 13 KB, 480x360, the bad boy.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11987900 This is depressingly accurate

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 25 20:45:00 2018 No.11988743 >>11980847 Holy shit that's right A woman would never sacrifice herself for a man she loved. Wouldn't even enter her head.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 25 20:47:39 2018 No.11988754 >>11980937 Why do you insist on being a tripfag when you post so much retardation on a regular basis? Are you seriously proud of the inane garbled nonsense you write?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 25 20:50:59 2018 No.11988763 >>11983562 What should he be wearing? Gucci?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 25 21:00:36 2018 No.11988798 >>11987286 excellent refutation of his ideas

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 25 21:01:36 2018 No.11988802 File: 205 KB, 683x761, 1532775970400.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11988798 >his ideas

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 25 21:17:04 2018 No.11988852 ITT: men who have never experienced the joy of a woman's love bitterly assure themselves it doesn't exist

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 26 03:21:51 2018 No.11989999 >>11980406 Men love women Women love the idea of love.

>>	Kierkegaard Fri Oct 26 03:28:23 2018 No.11990021 >>11980406 >he thinks women can fall in love Kek

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 26 03:28:40 2018 No.11990022 >>11980937 Go back to tumblr faggot

Anonymous Fri Oct 26 03:40:57 2018 No.11990044
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So much salt in this thread, and all of it from incel sweat. Read more, losers. As far as prose goes, genre romance is the most profitable literary market today. Most current romance authors are women. Most of it is crap pulp, but pick any of it up and you'll find women desperately in love with men. Most famous literary women wrote romance stories featuring women head-over-heels for men at some point or another during their careers. I'm not big on poetry, but Izumi Shikibu and Ono no Komachi wrote some great love haiku (often pretty steamy...) in Heian Japan and a good chunk of Sappho's work was about men.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 26 03:43:25 2018 No.11990049 >>11980406 How many books have you read by women in general?

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 26 04:07:13 2018 No.11990104 >>11990044 But they only write about chad so it doesn't count.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 26 04:18:35 2018 No.11990123 >>11990104 Most of those women were writing about falling in love with the average-looking guys, but I guess every regular guy on the street is Chad when you're an unwashed little shit with an egotistic worldview.

Anonymous Fri Oct 26 04:35:16 2018 No.11990148

>>11990123
>Most of those women were writing about falling in love with the average-looking guys
Average looking guys aren't browsing 4chan complaining that they're a virgin. You obviously don't understand demographics.
>unwashed little shit with an egotistic worldview.
Implying there's a single non egotistic human being in 2018. Do your reading, sweatye, Cristopher Lasch and so on.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 26 06:03:47 2018 No.11990298 >>11990123 Do you have trouble at times detecting sarcasm? I was making fun of the people ITT.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 26 06:17:23 2018 No.11990315 >>11980406 >but never the opposite? women don't have to write poems or books to impress men, the just need nice bollocks and milkies

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 26 06:24:19 2018 No.11990324 >>11985931 Post of the fucking year.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 26 06:27:14 2018 No.11990328 >>11990315 >nice bollocks kek

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 26 06:48:09 2018 No.11990368 >>11990315 Women don't have bollocks.

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