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Who is the philosopher that you believe reading everything written by him can change someone's viewpoint?

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>>11978159

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Plato has a way of making people realize how their positions have little to no foundation in logic.

>> No.11978438

Kant

>> No.11978504

CS Peirce guarantee'd

>> No.11978510

Zizek

>> No.11978517

>>11978159
Rand

>> No.11978518

>>11978437
>faulkner
whoops. In his defense though while he's not a philosopher his works will probably change your view of life

>> No.11978537

>>11978159
Kierkegaard

>> No.11978538

>>11978517
maybe if your initial viewpoint is that she has any credibility whatsoever

>> No.11978542

>>11978538
Kek

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>>11978537
case in point

>> No.11978552

>>11978159
For a writer, reading Bakhtin. He’s brilliant in a million different ways.

>> No.11978766

>>11978538
We had a recent thread where the OP made a titanic effort to do just that. Don't give a shit about Rand one way or the other, but was impressed by his sheer autistic effort. Maybe there's something to the lass after all.

>> No.11978945

>>11978159
Pierre Hadot
also The Stoics

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>>11978766
>that thread
Once you've got down that rabbit hole of believing everyone else in the world has been brainwashed into disagreeing with you how do you come back to reality? Could happen to anyone and its a frightening thought
I'd go for Hume, just for the complacency he strips you of

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>>11980037
With his whole speel about "failure of integration" or whatever it sounded to me like he was accusing people less of "being brainwashed" and more of incorporating evasive thinking methods. If nothing else I think Rand might have something there.

>> No.11980148

>>11978159
>Bertrand Russell is probably a genius
>read Russell
>Bertrand Russell is a fucking idiot.

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>>11980148
Russell was made absolutely obsolete by his severely autistic protégé.

>> No.11980171

>>11980162
was wittyg a f2m tranny? looks like jewish sigourney weaver

>> No.11980203

>>11980171
you are right

>> No.11980380

>>11980171
I think you're on to something.

>> No.11980385

>>11980380
cont. think about it, we have no audio or video recording of Wittgenstein, in his day a relatively famous philosopher.

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>He was about five feet six inches in height and slender

hmmm

>Jean-Paul Sartre was five feet in height


HMMMMMMM

>> No.11980422

>>11980415
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_g8JVK4Fppw

goddam listen to sartre's voice, sounds exactly like my grandma.

>> No.11980424

>>11978386
based and redpilled

>> No.11980444

>>11980422
this little frog is just plagiarizing Aristotle here

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>> No.11980464

Michel de Montaigne

>> No.11980520

>>11980447
What's one good idea he had?

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>>11980520
>What's one good idea he had?

>> No.11980538

>>11980537
Retard

>> No.11980560

>>11980537
Pick one.

>> No.11980588

>>11980095
Truly based post. Came to Ctrl+F this and wasn't disappointed.

>> No.11980642

>>11980422
>1 min in and he's already whining about america
>"but the USSR did nuffin wrong"
It's a good thing Sartre is forgotten.

>> No.11980681

Kant will literally change the way you view reality (until you forget about it and go on with your life.) Schopenhauer changed the way I view music, and arts in general. Nietzsche made me more of a yes-sayer.
I would also add an evolutionary psychology book to this list, specifically ones dealing with men and women's different mating strategies. I read Sperm Wars when I was 16 and I cannot imagine living without this knowledge.

>> No.11980691

>>11980681
> Nietzsche made me more of a yes-sayer.
???

>> No.11980699

>>11980691
>My formula for human greatness is amor fati: that one wants to have nothing different, not forward, not backward, not in all eternity. Not merely to bear the necessary, still less to conceal it—all idealism is mendaciousness before the necessary—but to love it.
>I want to learn more and more to see as beautiful what is necessary in things; then I shall be one of those who makes things beautiful. Amor fati: let that be my love henceforth! I do not want to wage war against what is ugly. I do not want to accuse; I do not even want to accuse those who accuse. Looking away shall be my only negation. And all in all and on the whole: some day I wish to be only a Yes-sayer.

>> No.11980705

>>11980699
Oh of course. For some reason i thought you said "yes-man" instead of "yes-sayer".

>> No.11980715

>>11978945
When you read Inner Citadel you realize the Stoics ethics is an extension of their metaphysics which has no grounding in reality (still good as pseudo intellectual self help though)

>> No.11980735

>>11978517
Rand is a shit philosopher. She is the archetypal Jew, her core beliefs revolve around materialism and extreme self-centeredness. S.

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Simone Weil

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>>11980735
Carefully now

>> No.11980791

>>11980765
Umm ok sweetie... I don't think you got the memo, /lit/ only discusses MALE philosophers/writers/poets so the means no femoids.

>> No.11980818

>>11980791
t. brainlet
Weil is obviously one of the greatest mind of the 20th century.

>> No.11980849

>>11978538
She's better than Zizek and half the people mentioned ITT but you don't sperg out about them (she's a lesser charlatan compared to them), you know why? Because your passion and view are not your own. You're a stripped-down memetic vehicle, nothing more.

>> No.11980858

>>11980681
>I would also add an evolutionary psychology book to this list
A good way to say "disregard everything I wrote above"

>> No.11980905

>>11980788
this is really funny. sea lions are supposed to be fat people right? is that the joke?

>> No.11980913

You don't change the other's viewpoint; you add to it, and hopefully a bastardized version of your own philosophic babble sticks here and there.

>> No.11981007

Guenon and Evola

>> No.11981354

Nabakov made me a

>> No.11981401

>>11980735
She calls materialists "mystics of muscle" fyi. She said materialism and spiritulaism are two sides on the same intellectually corrupt coin.