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If LOTR is inspired by christianity, is Aragorn meant to resemble Jesus?

>> No.11965176

It's not allegory so you can't isolate one character to represent Jesus. Different characters represent different aspects of Christ. Frodo, Gandalf, and Aragorn I think moreso than anyone else.

>> No.11965200

>>11965159
Just because it's inspired by it doesn't mean it's a fucking allegory.

>> No.11965353

>>11965176
this

>> No.11965370

>>11965353
>>11965200
>>11965176
like clockwork. the parallels to european myths and christianity in lotr are obvious as fuck and i dont care if he said it wasnt allegory

>> No.11965373

>>11965370
Go read C.S. Lewis.

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>>11965370
IT. WAS. NOT. ALLEGOREEEEEEE

>> No.11965400

>>11965370
Parallels doesn't mean allegory either.

>> No.11965407

>>11965400
His post was an allegory, anon. Don't take him so literally.

>> No.11965428

>>11965407
Fuuuuuck.

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>>11965176
>>11965200
>>11965353
>>11965380
>>11965400
People who suck a Christian (Catholic) Romantic's cock just because he said it was otherwise. Even though it's obvious.

>>11965159
Yes. The last "book" is called THE RETURN OF THE KING. Hinting enough?

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>>11965159
Depending on your understanding of symbology. In my opinion, there is no overall objective answer, as one's interpretation will undoubtedly change the more they contemplate the mysteries of these symbols in relation to each other within the story and in relation to the Greater Mysteries upon which there were inspired.

As for the Jesus parallel, I think it's a yes and no. Gandalf is for me the obvious first choice for this comparison, as he had given his own life, "fallen into darkness" (descent into hell), was reborn "through fire and water", and returned as Gandalf the White. He was of the Maiar: "spirits of the same order as the Valar", of Spirit made Flesh.

Frodo's journey, for me, represents the evolution of mans Spirit. Recall how after the breaking of the Fellowship, Frodo sets out with Sam, and shortly after encounters Gollum. These two companions are of much significance. Sam is the representation of the Past, the essence of Home, Tradition, Innocence. Gollum represents Frodo's Future, should he give in to the Power of the One. This explains why Frodo was reluctant to turn him away: "I have to believe he can come back."

Think of the play between these three characters along there journey, and what occurred at the end of it.

Aragorn represents the state of Man in his Fallen form, and his Ascension back to his Original state. His character as well has parallels with Christ, as well as other biblical characters (Pro tip: *David*)

Also consider this: the term "Lord of the Rings" refers to the planet Saturn. Saturn can have several meanings, one of which is of course the connection to Satan. Now think of the Biblical Fall of Lucifer, and the Fall of Sauron.

There's a LOT more that i'm not going to touch upon here. If anyone here is really interested, read both the Silmarillion, the LOTR, and study the bible and the apocrypha and you'll begin to get the real message.

>> No.11965862

LotR and the fantasy genre in general borrows heavily from what little folk culture remains of the celts. Christianity is important as well but less in a moral and thematic way than in a general cultural way. The person writing it existed in a christian-dominated world and as such has a bias towards those stories, but lotr in general is far more an exploration of an exaggerated, tribal, celtic setting, with an archetypal hero's journey. But it being a passion project you can see Tolkien's preferences very clearly

>> No.11966782

Christ the king — Aragorn,
Christ the shepherd — Gandalf,
Christ the priest — Frodo.

>> No.11966787

>>11966782
Frodo seems more like Christ the Lamb

>> No.11966796

>Quenya modelled after Finnish Language
>Gandalf literally compiled of Väinämöinen and Odin
>Väinämöinen orders to kill Jesus in Kalevala when is brought a baby for inspection born out of woman named Mary (Echoing the arrival of
christianity to the North)

Yeah no. LOTR is compiled of way many too myths to read as a strictly Christian allegory

>> No.11966820

>>11965159
it symbolises the fake and gay image of jesus

>> No.11966842

>>11965159
Stupid question from a stupid mind. Congrats.

>> No.11967928

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acqOGX62gys

>> No.11967963

>>11966782
Peabrain - Saruman
Woke - Gandalf the White
Omniscient - Tom Bombadil

>> No.11969813

>>11965159

It's not an allegory of christianity anon, it's an allegory of our modern time.

>> No.11969839

So is this how brainlets understand "christian influence"? It means everything has to be a bible allegory?