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Chart thread?
Love these things

>> No.11960418
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>>11960408
pynchart

>> No.11960428

kill me

>> No.11960479

Please let me humbly request a DFW essay chart

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VNs are /lit/ if you're japanese

>> No.11960500

>>11960408
>Here's a chart for being a political non-conformist!
>Just follow this path of 28 books that this chart has pre-determined for you.

Was this a deliberate joke?

>> No.11960526

>>11960500
>Was this a deliberate joke?
Was this an ironic statement?

>> No.11960535

>>11960500
I like to think so.

>> No.11960542

Because a better way would be to what, guess what books to read?

>> No.11960552

>>11960500
If you faggots stopped whining and give us solutions to problems instead that would be great

>> No.11960567

>>11960500
Nobody's forcing you to read shit

>> No.11960582

>>11960500
It’s a chart from /pol/...

>> No.11960583

>>11960500
>Why the fuck are you reading books? Don't you know the sentences are predetermined you sheep?

>> No.11960585
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>>11960500
Meta-commentary! Love it.

>>11960408
Books by Italians.

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Old list of "patrician" books, some of which are even still taught in high schools.

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>> No.11960862

>>11960825
Plato's Gorgias and Cicero's Catiline Orations drove me away from rhetoric. What should I read to inspire confidence in myself again?

>> No.11960988

>>11960500
>Just follow this path of 28 books that this chart has pre-determined for you.
what path?
I see 28 books with unique perspectives. They're not selected to lead you into some particular way of thinking, they're books that explore the nature of politics.

>> No.11961089

>>11960825
Interested in the topic but I can't read them all
I already knew ethos logos pathos. Please choose me the recent one.

>> No.11961140

anyone got a chart on which American President you should read or something similar? Been wanted to read a good bio on George Washington.

thanks in advance.

>> No.11961225

>>11960418
>Vineland
>weakest novel
What is this shit?

>> No.11961475

>>11960408
Swap Das capital for Will to Power by NEETche
>>11961140
Pres Polk was patrician

>> No.11962077

Ba-Dum-Bump

>> No.11962102

4 philosophy charts:
http://imgur.com/a/Uj5Ib

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>> No.11962123

>>11962112
unironically: very based and redpilled.

>> No.11962146

>>11962112
Why is Ted K on 90 deserved?
Also Trotsky seems oddly out of place, given the placement of other leftists.
Get better pics for Moby Dick and the "just bought this" screenshot.

>> No.11962155

>>11962146
Ted K was at 40 deserved in the first three drafts of the chart, he got moved to 90 because plenty of people actually believe that he did the bombings

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How is this list?

>> No.11962181

>>11961225
Some faggy aesthete didn't like him pointing out that They have names and addresses.

>> No.11962191

>>11962112
>oedipa at suicide level suffering
why

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>>11960408

>> No.11962506

>>11962112
Am I a pleb when I don't know 1/3 of them?

>> No.11962508

>>11962155
He didn't?

>> No.11962568

>>11962506
Assuming you know the other 2/3rds, you're probably not a total pleb.

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>>11962702

>> No.11962728

>>11962707
Essays/Introductions

Albert Einstein - Why Socialism?
Engels - Principles of Communism (A great glossary of socialist terms)
Lenin - The Three Sources and Three Component Parts of Marxism
Lenin - A liberal professor on Equality
Eugene Debs - Capitalism and Socialism
Marxist literature

Engels - Socialism: Utopian and Scientific
Marx/Engels - The Communist Manifesto
Marx - Wage Labour and Capital
Rosa Luxemburg - Reform or Revolution
Lenin - State and Revolution
Lenin - “Left-Wing” Communism: an Infantile Disorder
Lenin - Imperialism, the Highest Stage of Capitalism
Kropotkin - The Conquest of Bread
Trotsky - Fascism: What it is and how to Fight it
Trotsky - In Defense of October
Marxian economics

Cockshott and Cottrell - Towards a New Socialism (pdf) epub
History books

Howard Zinn - A Peoples History of the United States
CLR James - The Black Jacobins
John Reid - The Ten Days that Shook the World
Huey P. Newton - Revolutionary Suicide
Eduardo Galeano - Open Veins of Latin America
George Orwell - Homage to Catalonia
Trotsky - History of the Russian Revolution
Joshua Bloom - Black Against Empire
Psychology

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>>11962707

>> No.11962753

>>11962508
it is believed by some that he was a CIA co-op.

>> No.11962785

>>11962195
Which of these are actually worth reading and not genre trash? Is there a BotNS of horror? Are the classics like Dracula and Frankenstein worth reading?

>> No.11962800

>>11960599
Under what metric is this 'patrician'? It can't be difficulty because The Stranger is there, it can't be obscurity because look at half the fucking chart, it can't be quality because Atlas Shrugged is there

>> No.11962840

>>11961140
I would recommend His Excellency by Joseph J. Ellis.

>> No.11962910

Anyone got a chart about medieval literature?

>> No.11962915

>>11962170
>No bulgakov

it's shit

>> No.11963480

>>11962170
Special thanks for this one.

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The /lit/ classic

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>> No.11963557

>>11962800
Top tier post t.b.h.

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>> No.11963599

>>11960408
>Political Liberalism instead of Theory of Justice

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>>11960408
comfy fiction. found this chart a while back and i really like it.

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>> No.11963673

>>11963599
Political Liberalism is literally just an updated version of Theory of Justice though

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>> No.11963974

>>11960585
Is the Periodic Table any good?

>> No.11964750

>>11960599
random ass fucking list

>> No.11964808

>>11960500
Stupid people have this ideas that reading the great thinkers is necessarily ‘conforming’ to the tyranny of ‘what other people think’. Philosophy for stupid people is ‘just thinking about stuff’, and inevitably coming to a common opinion. Here we recognize that in order to meaningfully have original or actually ‘non-conforming’ opinions you need to be in dialogue with all the great thinkers who have already considered the problems you are trying to think about.

So yes, if you want to be a political non-conformist you will those texts and others and actually think about what you read. The opposite is just being an infowars asshole who thinks they are a genius and a “non conformist” because they believe all the same conspiracies that everybody else does.

>> No.11964853

>>11963685
Given how absolutely garbage Snow Crash was I feel safe in my assumption that the rest of this chart is equally horrendous.

>> No.11964856

>>11963609
>not including sword art online

>> No.11965029

Anyone got a chart on world mythologies and/or Anthropology in general?

>> No.11965065

>>11960496
I do love big anime tiddies but just how am I to go about acquiring and playing these games if I don't know and don't have the time to learn Japanese?

>> No.11965072

>>11962112
>Marx 100 deserving
>Engels, Zizek, Sarte all also high up on deserving
What an absolutely shit chart

>> No.11965102

>>11965072
but don't you know that communism caused one hundred gorillion deaths??!?

>> No.11965301

>>11963575
>Doesn’t include Douay Rhiems Bible

>> No.11965338

Any math charts?

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>>11965338
I have two
1/2

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>>11965338
>>11965430
2/2

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>>11965338

>> No.11965530

>>11962112
>jesus 50 deserving
shit chart

>> No.11965556

>>11965430
>>11965434
What's the point in this crap? Does it let you do magic better?

>> No.11965563

>>11965434
Thanks

>> No.11965746

>>11963685
Which of these are unironically worth a read and which are genre trash?

>> No.11965810

>>11965102
it did tho

>> No.11965815

>>11965102
I would have so much more respect for commies if they just admitted deaths don't matter.

>> No.11965961

>>11962785
Reading Dracula rn, really enjoying it. Never read Frankenstein but I think it would be pretty boring considering it’s not really horror. Also written by a woman so probably way more flowery language.

>> No.11966261

>>11965102
>maybe if I talk like a holocaust denier that will free the working class

>> No.11966290

>>11965961
>le women are bad meme xD

>> No.11966308

>>11960599
>/lit/'s Most Discussed

most namedropped more like

>> No.11966331

>>11960585
no Ungaretti
nothing between Tasso and Casanova
I can go on

>> No.11966351

>>11960585
what's with the green ovals on some books ?

>> No.11966362

>>11962506
am I a pleb if I know over 1/2 of them but have never read/read about them and only know them from maymays?

>> No.11967120

>>11965462
6/10 troll. I had a giggle.

>> No.11967178

>>11965961
>>11962785
Dracula is a good book and while I have not read Frankenstein, I know plenty who have and they told me it was similar to Dracula. Both are written in the same journal style. All of the books in the classic horror category are worth reading.

>> No.11967315

>>11960585
Anyone got a more basic/tiered chart for Italian Lit (like read this first, then the deeper cuts).

>> No.11967319

Anyone got the technoskeptisicism chart?
Also that one chart about what's really going on in the world, anyone got it?

>> No.11967325

>>11960599
Some actually patrician books but
>Henry James
>Murakami
And then
>Ayn Rand
Oh, I can safety discard this list then.

>> No.11967349

>>11963656
Is these a chart like this but less England-centric?

>> No.11967380

>>11963670
>tfw this is the only chart so far where I've read 50% of the novels
The Road is shit though, should be swapped out with Blood Merridan


Anyone else here having a tough time with captchas today? Maybe because I've haven't been on this site much this year and I'm not used to not having legacy captcha

>> No.11967405

>>11967120
That’s a funny image, I think most people get the jokes tbqh

>> No.11967425

/r/ing a chart for English poetry - as in, poetry in the English language, not necessarily from England.

>> No.11967548

>>11965065
There are English translations of most VN's that you can find on torrent sites like Nyaa

>> No.11967560

>>11963587
I am 100% positive this chart was created by somebody who has never read any of these books.

>> No.11967696

>>11960496
>VN difficulty chart that isn't made up bullshit
>instead a VN difficulty chart that is algorithm-based bullshit
流石

>> No.11967722

>>11962112
>go to war
>kill people
>become pow
>earn medals
>outsuffered by an affluent poet that kept writing about muh suffering until he peacefully passed away

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>> No.11967769

>>11965462
>calculus: real complex analysis
since when were mathematicians funny?

>> No.11967896

>>11965556
What is the point of anything?

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>>11960408
Is there a chart for occult stuff? I'm interested in it but I don't know where to start.

>> No.11967918

>>11965072
hello there, communist.

>> No.11967946

>>11963571
>religion needs more than 1 book
False, dismissed.

>> No.11967984

>>11967946
>the bible is only 1 book
Lol

>> No.11968044

>>11967764
I have never hated a single JPG file more in my entire life.

>> No.11968077

>>11967764
Needs more Ayn Rand.
Throw in Harry Potter too desu.

>> No.11968078

>>11967911
I'm interested too.

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>>11967911
I've got a few more, maybe five or so floating around in folders somewhere. It'll cost you some jezebels, though.

>> No.11968272

Brainlet, here. Is there any resource that has all the charts compiled in a catalogue form?

>> No.11968295

>>11962191
>That night she sat for hours, too numb even to drink, teaching herself to breathe in a vacuum. For this, oh God, was the void. There was nobody who could help her. Nobody in the world. They were all on something, mad, possible enemies, dead.

I think you could use a reread, friendo.

>> No.11968339

>>11968272
Read the sticky, there's a ton of them there.

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>>11967911

Another one

>> No.11968365

Is there a self-help/mental-health chart?

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>> No.11968394

>>11968339
Thanks, anon.

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>> No.11968417

Anyone got charts for plays?
Can be all encompassing or for specific (Greek, modern etc) periods/languages

>> No.11968429

>irene's cunt

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>> No.11968579

>>11967560
What do you mean by thart?

>> No.11968611

>>11965462
Top fucking kekkles

>> No.11968625

>>11968579
There's no rhyme or reason to anything in it. In many of his books Evola will take for granted that the reader is familiar with certain concepts introduced in Revolt and elsewhere so he doesn't always define what he's talking about. For this reason starting with Grail is probably the worst advice anyone can give. I wouldn't even call it a primary or necessary text.

>> No.11968636

>>11965301
Typical TradCat LARPer, can't even spell Rheims.

>> No.11968645

>>11968077
potter isn't american

>> No.11968669

>>11968645
Obviously.
Don't see why that should stop it from being on that chart.

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>>11963536
>Bach: Music in the Castle of Heaven
is there a Beethoven equivalent to this?

>> No.11968946

>>11968295
That's normie tier.

>> No.11968966

>>11962112
not posting the actual /lit/ chart which other anons other than you took part in.
Have fun shilling this chart anon, but we all know that you'll get tired of posting this one eventually and that's when all your additions will be removed.

>> No.11969150

>>11967764
this image has to be a fucking joke

>> No.11969225

>>11969150
No fucking shit.
Are you literally autistic, because if you honestly couldn't see it was an obvious joke, you should get that checked out.

>> No.11969332

>>11965065
learn japanese

>>11967548
yeah there are "translations" for some VNs, but not most

>> No.11969339

>>11963974
In my opinion "The periodic table" is better than "If this is a man", although the latter has an undeniable historical relevance that makes it stand out among Levi's works.

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>>11967911

>> No.11969349

>>11968943
Similarly, a Mozart one?

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>> No.11969455

>>11969340
Name the female

>> No.11969467

>>11969340
Should add a third panel where she reads the bible and finally gets it 'cause she read the other stuff.

>> No.11970017

>>11969423
>Ayn Rand
>utilitarian

I don't think so

>> No.11970063

>>11969448

Surely there's a better intro to Rome than two Goldsworthy books overing just over one century.

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>> No.11971529

>>11960825
No Isocrates? Kys

>> No.11971539

>>11960408
Since this is fairly on-topic, is Fukuyama worth reading?

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Important

>> No.11971553

>>11963974
yes

>> No.11971558

>>11962707
>Theodor Adorno
>progressive

Pick one

>> No.11971593

Any Jünger, Cioran, Eliade charts?

>> No.11971630

Is there one with something other than a bunch of normie books?

>> No.11971773

>>11971546
Explain

>> No.11971796

>>11969421
:/ ya gonna have to do more math than that if ya wanna /econ/

>> No.11971806

>>11971773
no

>> No.11971845

>>11962112
based and redpilled

>> No.11971861

>>11962112
>didn't suffer at all but totally deserved it
>some slut
this is good

>> No.11971865

>>11963974
yeah it's great would recommend

>> No.11972073

anyone have an irish lit one?

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>>11963666
>disturbing literature
>666 trips

>> No.11972356

>>11968084
Well hello there I would like me this chart but without a retarded font

>> No.11972394

>>11965430
>>11965434
>>11965462
lol like I'd trust anyone on this site for math book recommendations. Stay on your lane

>> No.11972926

>>11963621
>no Underground

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>>11960408
that is still a pretty trash chart for political philosophy that keeps getting shilled for some reason, some other anon made pic related and it's way better

>> No.11973473

>>11968625
should I read him chronologically, then?

>> No.11973524

>>11973473
You don't have to. After Revolt you can go wherever you want with him although it's not a bad idea to also read Men Among the Ruins before getting into the political stuff. Men also comes with a really great introductory essay surveying his philosophy.

>> No.11973727

>>11969417
if you pirate my books I'm allowed to murder you under the NAP
>t. ancap author

>> No.11973754

>>11973727
Did you miss the "Against Intellectual Property" title in the ethics section?

>> No.11974792

>>11962170
pretty great, imo.

>> No.11974916
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Does anyone know of any essential or beginner Brazilian literature? I'm trying to into Brazilian Portuguese. Thanks

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Any Polish charts?

>> No.11975165

>>11960599
Ayn Rand used to be banned on lit

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>>11969423
>the god that failed us

>> No.11977575

>>11975165
Boy am I glad that r/philosophy faggot reddit mod is dead

>> No.11977710

>>11971546
This is very helpful. Thanks for posting, forgot to save it last time.

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>> No.11978664

>>11963685
Is there a PKD chart floating around out there?

>> No.11978790

>>11976759
??

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>>11971491
Is there any Persian erotica?

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>>11974916

>> No.11979663

>>11965434
>apostol
>ever

>> No.11979696

>>11971539
No.

>> No.11979750

>>11978348
>thinking you can refute the afterlife with science and not philosophy

>> No.11979890

>>11965462
What's wrong with this chart, and why are anons heckling it?
t.mathlet

>> No.11980133

>>11971546
What do the ! indicate?

>> No.11980144

>>11965462
Don't the headings for the "Applications" section make it obvious?

>> No.11981037

>>11969427
I read The Way of Men after ghosting my cocaine-addict girlfriend who was trying to train me to fight her imprisoned ex-boyfriend.

Fucked up story, I know.

Anyways, I shortly afterwards became interested in enlisting for service in the US Armed Forces.

Is this Richard Darre character a notable figure or sorts? I will be reading some of the other things on this list, just curious what your thoughts are on him and the suggested literature on this JPG.

>> No.11981619

>>11965072
Fuck off, Commie

>> No.11981774

Meine neue bucher: Wo ist der ösi?

>> No.11981881

>>11981619
this

>> No.11982811

>>11981037
Why is every sentence it's own paragraph? And as far as the literature is concerned, "unity of blood and soil" is one of those things people in the authoritarian right throw around without any actual discernible meaning. It's one of those concepts you 'feel' rather than 'think' if you know what I mean. As such, the literature associated with it is aiming to make you 'feel' more than anything.

The Way of Men is, last I checked, riddled with typographical and editing errors, and besides that not very good. Industrial Society and it's Future is written by history's second least competent terrorist (right behind the underwear bomber), who also happens to be brain damaged from a disease he contracted during infancy that turned him into the biggest sperg in the modern world. Permaculture is, from what I've been told, a very good book on sustainable gardening. I have no idea about the rest, nor do I know anything about Darre, but the fact that none of the titles are authored by him tells me he probably isn't that critical to the subject matter.

>> No.11983084

>>11969417
The Helicopter Pilot's Handbook, top kek